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STATUS REPORT (Joint Discovery Conference Statement) by Oracle International Corporation, Oracle Corporation, Oracle USA Inc.. (Howard, Geoffrey) (Filed on 10/3/2008)
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BINGHAM McCUTCHEN LLP DONN P. PICKETT (SBN 72257) GEOFFREY M. HOWARD (SBN 157468) HOLLY A. HOUSE (SBN 136045) ZACHARY J. ALINDER (SBN 209009) BREE HANN (SBN 215695) Three Embarcadero Center San Francisco, CA 94111-4067 Telephone: (415) 393-2000 Facsimile: (415) 393-2286 donn.pickett@bingham.com geoff.howard@bingham.com holly.house@bingham.com zachary.alinder@bingham.com bree.hann@bingham.com DORIAN DALEY (SBN 129049) JENNIFER GLOSS (SBN 154227) 500 Oracle Parkway M/S 5op7 Redwood City, CA 94070 Telephone: (650) 506-4846 Facsimile: (650) 506-7114 dorian.daley@oracle.com jennifer.gloss@oracle.com Attorneys for Plaintiffs Oracle Corporation, Oracle USA, Inc., and Oracle International Corporation
Robert A. Mittelstaedt (SBN 060359) Jason McDonell (SBN 115084) Elaine Wallace (SBN 197882) JONES DAY 555 California Street, 26th Floor San Francisco, CA 94104 Telephone: (415) 626-3939 Facsimile: (415) 875-5700 ramittelstaedt@jonesday.com jmcdonell@jonesday.com ewallace@jonesday.com Tharan Gregory Lanier (SBN 138784) Jane L. Froyd (SBN 220776) JONES DAY 1755 Embarcadero Road Palo Alto, CA 94303 Telephone: (650) 739-3939 Facsimile: (650) 739-3900 tglanier@jonesday.com jfroyd@jonesday.com Scott W. Cowan (Admitted Pro Hac Vice) Joshua L. Fuchs (Admitted Pro Hac Vice) JONES DAY 717 Texas, Suite 3300 Houston, TX 77002 Telephone: (832) 239-3939 Facsimile: (832) 239-3600 swcowan@jonesday.com jlfuchs@jonesday.com Attorneys for Defendants SAP AG, SAP AMERICA, INC., and TOMORROWNOW, INC.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION ORACLE CORPORATION, et al., Plaintiffs, v. SAP AG, et al., Defendants. Case No. 07-CV-1658 PJH (EDL) JOINT DISCOVERY CONFERENCE STATEMENT Date: October 10, 2008 Time: 2:00 p.m. Courtroom: E, 15th Floor Judge: Hon. Elizabeth D. Laporte
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Plaintiffs Oracle Corporation, Oracle USA, Inc., and Oracle International Corporation (collectively, "Oracle") and Defendants SAP AG, SAP America, Inc., and TomorrowNow, Inc. (collectively, "Defendants," and with Oracle, the "Parties") hereby submit this Joint Discovery Conference Statement. The Parties jointly request that the Court schedule sixty minutes on October 10, 2008 to further discuss the following discovery issues. In addition, because the Parties believe the Court's regularly scheduled discovery conferences have greatly facilitated the discovery process in this matter and will continue to do so, the Parties jointly request that the Court confirm that discovery conferences have been set for November 26 and January 8, as discussed at the last conference. The Parties were unable to agree on joint discovery conference statement language and so submit separate statements below. 1. Data Warehouse Review and Production
In its Requests for Production, dated August 2, 2007, Oracle sought copies of the software and other materials downloaded from Oracle, and of the Oracle software (and works allegedly derived from that software) that are maintained on TomorrowNow's computer systems. These materials relate to Oracle's copyright infringement claims, among others. As the Court may recall from the technical tutorial, these materials are voluminous, making copying and production logistically difficult. As the Parties have continuously reported, in approximately April 2008 the parties agreed to an arrangement that permits remote access review of certain servers that house these materials so that Oracle can designate relevant material that it wants copied and produced (the "Data Warehouse Agreement"). To date, Defendants have through the Data Warehouse made over 9 terabytes of data from 61 partitions (i.e., from the user's perspective, these are physical or virtual "drives"--often referred to as the "C" drive or "G" drive, etc.) on a total of 39 servers available for Oracle's remote review. The Data Warehouse review began in mid-July, and by mid-August Oracle completed its review of the materials from 52 server partitions that Defendants made available containing 5.55 terabytes of data. However, because of a number of unexpected technical complexities, Defendants have not yet made available portions of two servers referenced as the "G partition" of 1
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DCITBU01 and the AS/400, a total of least an additional 7 terabytes of information. And, three other servers (DCITBU02, PSDEV01 and PSDEV03) containing approximately 3.5 terabytes of information also involve unexpected technical problems. Defendants contend that DCITBU02 and PSDEV03 have been available for review since September 4th and PSDEV01 has been available since September 24th, even though the Parties may still need work out a separate procedure for handling a small portion of one of those servers. Oracle disagrees. Some or all of these five servers are believed to contain software fixes and updates created by TomorrowNow, and copies of Oracle software either downloaded and/or used by TomorrowNow, among other things. Oracle contends these materials, constituting a total of 10.5 terabytes, are the most critical to evaluating its liability and damages claims. For the past several weeks, production of data from the Data Warehouse that Oracle has tagged for copying from the servers made available for review has been delayed for a number of reasons, including: (a) the volume of data; (b) unexpected interruptions at Jones Day-Houston caused by Hurricane Ike; and (c) the Parties' disagreement regarding the application of clawback provisions in the Agreed Protective Order to data actually produced from the servers in the Data Warehouse. Defendants experienced some delays in providing a compromise proposal on the clawback issue, but Oracle received that proposal on October 1 and is in the process of reviewing it. The Parties hope to resolve the clawback interpretation issue prior to the Discovery Conference, but if not, they will seek the Court's further guidance on that issue at the conference. Defendants continue to work to make available for inspection the portions of the two servers that have not been fully reviewed (i.e., "G partition" of DCITBU01 and the AS/400). The 7 terabyte server, DCITBU01, has presented and continues to present numerous technical challenges, however, Defendants' expect to report additional progress on that server before the discovery conference. The Parties anticipate that the AS/400 will require an in-person review by the Parties' counsel and their experts, and that that review will occur no later than early to midNovember. Oracle desires to conduct that review much sooner, and now has concerns about the ultimate preservation, in a forensically reliable manner, of the data on these servers. Oracle's position is that the delays associated with the production of data and information 2
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from the servers that have been reviewed as a part of the Data Warehouse and the technical problems associated with the five servers identified above has slowed progress of the extrapolation stipulation and has delayed (and for a portion of the data, precluded) access to a total of 10.5 terabytes of information, thereby threatening the current case schedule. Notwithstanding the delay in the delivery of actual copies of the data to Oracle, Defendants' position is that Oracle has had, and still has, access through the Data Warehouse to review and inspect any data on any of the now 61 server partitions containing over 9 terabytes of data that they have made available. The Parties continue to meet and confer on establishing a schedule and efficient means for: (a) making the "G partition" of DCITBU01 and the AS/400 available for review by Oracle; (b) producing copies of the voluminous materials Oracle has tagged for copying as part of the Data Warehouse procedure; and (c) confirming the forensic reliability and availability of large amounts of data. The Parties hope to resolve these scheduling and logistical issues prior to the discovery conference, but if not, they will seek the Court's further guidance on these issues at the conference. 2. Targeted Searches
Over three months ago, the Parties and the Court agree that targeted searches are a necessary complement to the custodian productions, especially in light of the current case schedule and discovery deadlines. Following extensive meet and confer and direction from the Court regarding the targeted search process, on August 29, 2008, Oracle served its First Set of Targeted Search Requests on Defendants (see attached Exhibit A). Oracle intended those Requests as "narrow searches by topic where document production would come from centralized sources and/or from those persons most likely to have responsive documents," as agreed by the Parties in their August 21, 2008 Joint Discovery Conference Statement and as ordered by the Court in its August 29, 2008 Order Following Discovery Conference. In their Initial and Supplemental Responses to Plaintiffs' First Set of Targeted Search Requests, Defendants objected to production under much of Oracle's targeted search Requests on the ground that the searches requested were not sufficiently targeted (see attached Exhibits B & C). For the documents that Defendants agreed to produce, Defendants have stated that production would begin within 30 3
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days and would likely take 90 days to complete. Id. The Parties met and conferred on September 11 in an effort to resolve Defendants' objections and the question of timing of production. Oracle's position is that its targeted searches are similar to those that Defendants had already seen in the drafts that had been exchanged since May 2008 and refined further over the course of the following four months of meeting and conferring and discussion of the topic with the Court (see attached Exhibit D at pp. 7-8). Oracle contends that Defendants' former proposed targeted searches included requests covering topics almost identical in form and scope to Oracle's, including requests for "financial information," for "information concerning the reasons [Oracle] lost customers to TomorrowNow," and for "policy and procedure documents...." (see id. at pp. 17-18). During the September 11 meet and confer, Defendants stated their position that they need not serve targeted searches for discovery for which Oracle had already agreed to produce the responsive information. Defendants otherwise disagree with Oracle's position and will be prepared at the hearing to demonstrate otherwise. Oracle also believes Defendants' refusal to respond to its financial information targeted search violates the agreement and the Court's guidance, which directed targeted searches in part as a remedy for the same objections Defendants now raise and in response to concerns about discovery costs. 1 Defendants believe that they have complied with the Court's instructions and As explained in the Parties' August 21 Joint Discovery Statement, and as discussed at the last three discovery conferences, Oracle also contends that it has not received damages causation evidence from Defendants comparable to that produced by Oracle. To that end, Oracle requested from Defendants, as part of its Financial Documents Targeted Search Request, "reports sufficient to confirm that the 61 customers listed in the Customer List attached to Jane Froyd's July 18, 2008 email are the only SAP customers who either (1) had a contract with TN as a component of their Safe Passage deal, or (2) were previously (or, to the extent the customer was sold TN and SAP products/support together, at the same time) a TN customer who SAP then mined for further sales of software or service." Defendants objected to this portion of Oracle's Request as not part of a targeted search for financial information. Oracle contends that this information is directly relevant to proving Oracle's damages case and is targeted, as it seeks documents likely to be contained within central repositories, like Defendants' customer relationship management databases, rather than in custodial sources. Moreover, damages causation documents have already been requested by Oracle, and production of these documents has already been agreed to by Defendants or ordered by the Court, including in the July 3 and August 29 Orders. See, e.g., Oracle's Second Set of Requests for Production to Defendants No. 6 & 13-20; see also July 3 Order at 5 (ordering production of exemplar "win/loss reports, customer surveys, and the electronic customer relationship management database" and an annotated list of customers "that moved to TomorrowNow and/or SAP" from Oracle); August 29 Order at 1 (ordering "service related revenue" information to be added to the annotated list of customers). Further, Oracle requested additional customer win/loss causation documents as its third targeted search request. Defendants' objections to that request are attached hereto as Exhibits B and C. 4 JOINT DISC. CONF. STATEMENT
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are in the process of gathering the information that is responsive to those portions of Oracle's targeted search requests to which Defendants have no objection. The Parties agree that targeted searches were intended as a means to help streamline the Parties' ability to gain information located in many places across the Parties' organizations. However, it is now clear that while the Parties have agreed on the concept and procedural process for submitting written targeted search requests and responses, they have very different positions regarding: (a) the proper subject and scope of the targeted searches, including how, if at all, targeted searches limit the Parties' ability to serve new requests for production of documents pursuant to Rule 34; (b) how the requests should be bundled for purposes of calculating how many searches are being made against the limit of ten searches per side; and (c) whether documents that are the subject of previously joined discovery disputes should be included in the targeted search process; and (d) in context of all of the other discovery in the case, how quickly documents must be collected and produced in response to a targeted search. Oracle has proposed a compromise in which it would count its financial document targeted search request as three targeted searches, breaking the financial information into three separate categories: (1) customer-related financials, (2) acquisition and Safe Passage related damages documents, and (3) intellectual property related profit margin, development costs, and valuation amounts. Oracle proposed that any such agreement would be mutual, such that the financial documents, which Defendants have sought from Oracle in their initial proposed targeted search requests and the subsequent related meet and confer, shall also count as three targeted searches. Defendants' response to that proposal is that it does not resolve any one of the four basic areas of disagreement between the Parties (i.e., subject/scope, bundling, previously joined issues, and timing of production). While there is another meet and confer on this issue scheduled before the discovery conference, at this point, the Parties believe that they may be at an impasse regarding the implementation of the targeted search process and that they need the Court's assistance in order to move forward. The Parties have attached for the Court's review prior to the hearing Exhibits A through D, which are the current Targeted Searches and related Objections and Responses thereto 5
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as well as the representations the Parties made to the Court about the previously exchanged targeted searches in the June 24 Joint Discovery Conference Statement. The Parties will be prepared to provide additional information and argue their positions during the discovery conference on the four basic areas of disagreement relating to targeted searches. Oracle believes that additional relevant emails exist on this topic and will bring those with it to the hearing as well. Depending on what issues, if any, are resolved at the discovery conference, and if the Court deems necessary, the Parties are also prepared to more fully brief and argue, on an expedited schedule, all four of these issues as well. 3. Discovery Time Ranges
The Parties continue to meet and confer on the timing and scope of production in response to requests for production, interrogatory responses and targeted searches beyond the previouslyagreed discovery time ranges. As the Court is aware, the Parties agreed at the start of discovery to a presumptive January 1, 2004 front-end cut-off date for responsive materials, with a further agreement that certain topics or later discovery may warrant adjustments to this general rule. Oracle's recently-filed Second Amendment Complaint alleges wrongdoing dating back to 2002 and post-dating the filing of the original Complaint. The Parties continue to agree that it may be possible and appropriate for the Parties to locate and produce certain limited categories of responsive documents, from certain custodians and document sources, that date back to at least January 1, 2002, as well as certain limited categories of documents post-dating the filing of the action. As explained in the July 18 Joint Discovery Conference Statement, the Parties have exchanged proposed lists of document categories for which each believes the discovery time ranges should be expanded. The Parties continue to meet and confer regarding these categories. 4. De-Designation of Highly Confidential and Confidential Documents
By the October 10th Discovery Conference, Defendants expect to be complete with their re-review of the approximately 27,000 SAP AG and SAP America documents that Defendants initially stamped "Highly Confidential." Oracle continues to believe that an insufficient number of documents have been re-designated and de-designated by Defendants, and reserves its right to 6
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challenge the designations. The Parties continue to meet and confer on this issue and will apprise the Court of their progress at the October 10 Discovery Conference. The Parties also continue to meet and confer on whether, and how, the confidentiality designations for TomorrowNow's document production, deposition testimony, and other discovery responses should be redesignated or de-designated based on the fact that TomorrowNow is expected to wind down its operations by October 31, 2008. Oracle proposed a method for accomplishing this de-designation on August 15 and discussed it with the Court at the last discovery conference. Defendants will provide a response to that proposal, and the Parties will meet and confer on that response, before the October 10 discovery conference. 5. Sampling and Extrapolation
The Parties continue to discuss a document/data and testimony-based approach for collecting and presenting evidence regarding certain processes by which TomorrowNow generated and distributed support products to its customers. While progress has been made, and as the Court is aware, the Parties have engaged statistical experts and have held several meet and confers during the months of July and August, many details remain to be negotiated, such as the extent to which statistical validity shall be required. During the August 28 Discovery Conference, in exploring alternatives that may exist to sampling, the Parties agreed that Oracle would identify testimony that it contends should apply to all of TomorrowNow's development activities, and that Defendants would then either stipulate could be applied across all of TomorrowNow's development activities or else state the specific subject matter as to which further testimony would be required from TomorrowNow. Oracle is currently working on identifying the proposed extrapolation testimony under this potential agreement and expects to provide the same to Defendants before the October 10 Discovery Conference. 6. Case Schedule
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evidence if the technical issues arising out the Data Warehouse project do not get resolved promptly and in way that maintains the integrity of that data. Regarding depositions, on May 29, 2008, Oracle requested dates for twelve key SAP AG and SAP America witnesses: Benjamin Wilk, Christopher Faye, Gerhard Oswald, Henning Kagermann, James Mackey, Jeff Word, John Zepecki, Josef Schmidt, Leo Apotheker, Shai Agassi, Thomas Ziemen, and Werner Brandt (serving notices on June 4). While some of these have now been completed, the process of obtaining dates and document productions has been difficult and slow. Many (Wilk (who was only offered in Germany and not so far in the US), Faye, Word, Agassi, Oswald) are not completed, and some (Agassi, the architect of the TomorrowNow acquisition) are not even scheduled and apparently will not be until 2009. Several will occur in Germany, requiring advance planning with the U.S. Consulate, among other logistical hurdles, and almost all of them have substantial foreign language documents in their production. And, despite the Court's guidance, Defendants continue to make substantial document productions on the literal eve of important depositions. Oracle has recently served an additional 10 deposition notices, and anticipates approximately 25-30 more, not counting third party depositions which have yet to begin. (As of now, Oracle has used approximately 145 deposition hours of the 350 allowed by Judge Hamilton). Unless Defendants start responding far more promptly with documents and dates, Oracle will not be able to complete these depositions in the time allowed. In addition, Defendants have refused to provide any discovery related to other Oracle products that evidence indicates they infringed, including Oracle's Siebel, Hyperion, Retek and eBusinessSuite software. This discovery is not, as Defendants say, an "endless broadening." These claims are the reason Judge Hamilton substantially expanded the discovery limits and extended the schedule in the first place. In short, the overall case schedule appears to be in jeopardy.2 Oracle anticipates filing a Third Amended Complaint to make technical amendments related to the plaintiff entities for each claim, as stated in the Parties' September 11, 2008 Stipulation Regarding Oracle's Proposed Third Amended Complaint, these minor amendments will not require any delay in the case schedule. Per the September 11 Stipulation, Oracle provided Defendants with its proposed Third Amended Complaint and a supplemental production of documents related to the proposed amendments on before September 29, 2008. See September 11, 2008 Stipulation Regarding Oracle's Proposed Third Amended Complaint. Id. Also according to the Parties' agreement, Defendants now have until October 6, 2008 to either 8 JOINT DISC. CONF. STATEMENT
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Defendants' Position The Court has instructed Oracle to focus its claims and discovery in order to meet the case schedule established by Judge Hamilton. This case was filed 19 months ago and trial is 16 months away. Oracle has not quantified, much less even estimated, the monetary damages it seeks from Defendants. Oracle is attempting to file its fourth complaint in this case, this time by adding new party-plaintiffs and deleting certain party-plaintiffs. Moreover, Oracle intends to move to compel Defendants to produce documents related to additional software lines (Seibel, eBusiness Suite, Hyperion and Retek). So, rather than focusing its claims and discovery in this case, Oracle seeks to endlessly broaden and lengthen this case. Defendants continue to expend millions of dollars each month timely meeting its discovery obligations in this case. That ongoing expenditure has yielded great progress, which to date includes production of over 3.3 million bates-numbered pages from Defendants' files and 54 separate custodians' data. Not counting the 11 additional custodians named by Oracle on September 20th, Defendants have produced documents for all but 3 custodians previously identified by Oracle. Six of the twelve deponents listed above have been deposed. Four are scheduled for deposition before the end of the year, and two of those will be complete before Thanksgiving, which was the original goal. One of the two currently unscheduled depositions (Wilk) was scheduled, but was unilaterally cancelled by Oracle. The other (Agassi) is a former executive board member for whom, as Defendants have explained to Oracle, there are many more logistical complexities in obtaining his documents and deposition because he is not a current employee. Currently, the goal is to have all twelve of the requested depositions complete before year end. With respect to the 10 depositions Oracle has recently requested, Defendants expect to be able to present 5 of the 10 for deposition before year-end. Four of the witnesses, for whom Oracle had not previously sought documents, will take more time, but Defendants' goal is to
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produce them for deposition in January or February 2009. The timing of one of the witnesses depends on the resolution of the Parties' dispute as to whether the Seibel software line should be added at this stage in the case. 7. Oracle's Anticipated Motions to Compel (a) Motion to Compel Response to Targeted Searches
As noted above, the Parties have an outstanding dispute as to the format of the targeted searches. Due to the importance of these documents, in particular for Oracle's damages calculation and for upcoming depositions, and the impact on the case of not having these documents for critical depositions, Oracle believes that this dispute needs to be resolved on an expedited basis. As indicated above, it either requests guidance from the court at this conference or, if the Court prefers, Oracle will file a formal motion to compel though it asks to do so on shortened time. (b) Motions to Compel Related to Redacted Documents Needed for Upcoming Depositions
The deposition of SAP's CEO, Henning Kagermann, was held on September 25th and 26th. On September 2, 2008, Defendants produced SAP Executive Board minutes that had been heavily redacted. Similarly, on September 30 and October 1, Oracle took the deposition of SAP AG's "Global Business Owner"/"Program Manager" for TomorrowNow, Thomas Ziemen. At Ziemen's deposition, Defendants clawed back a portion of a document reacting to a news report on third party service provider's obligations to protect Oracle's IP as purportedly reflecting legal communications, though none of the authors or recipients were lawyers (the author was a SAP marketer). Oracle could not effectively question Mr. Kagermann or Mr. Ziemen about these respective documents as a result. Further, additional Executive board members' depositions are scheduled shortly; indeed the deposition of Leo Apotheker occurred in the meantime in Germany on October 2. The questioning of all of the SAP board members will continue to be impaired by the redaction and clawback of these documents. Oracle requests that the Court evaluate the appropriateness of the redaction and clawback on an expedited basis, so further questioning will not be affected. In order to facilitate an in 10
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camera review, Defendants have agreed to bring copies of the unredacted and redacted version of the subject documents to the discovery conference or provide them earlier if the Court prefers. (c) Motion to Compel Further Responses to Interrogatories and Requests for Production Regarding New Products
On August 27, 2008, Defendants responded to Oracle's Second Set of Requests for Production of Documents and Second and Third Sets of Interrogatories. In this discovery, Oracle inquired into Defendants' misuse of Oracle's Siebel, eBusiness Suite, Hyperion and Retek software lines, but Defendants refused to produce any information related to these products. While the Parties continue to meet and confer on a number of outstanding deficiencies that Oracle claims with respect to those Responses, the Parties appear to have reached an impasse as to whether Defendants will respond to any interrogatories or produce any documents related to these additional software lines. 8. Defendant's Anticipated Motions to Compel (a) Documents Related to Potential new Plaintiffs
As noted above, Plaintiffs' seek to amend their complaint to add new party-plaintiffs. If Oracle is successful in joining these new parties, then Defendants seek an order compelling the new plaintiffs to respond, on an expedited basis, to all of Defendants' outstanding discovery requests to the current plaintiffs as if the discovery had been originally propounded to the new plaintiffs. In words, Defendants seek to avoid any delays or negative impacts that would otherwise be caused by the untimely addition of these new parties that should have joined this case when it was first filed. (b) Copyright Related Documents and Information
Defendants continue to meet and confer with Oracle regarding their anticipated motion to compel copyright documents and information, which were mentioned during the last discovery conference. If the parties are unable to resolve their disputes, Defendants will discuss a briefing schedule with Oracle and present a proposal to the Court at the October 10 conference. Defendants anticipate that the motion will address Oracle's refusal to: (a) provide a meaningful response to an interrogatory requesting it to identify the materials allegedly covered by each 11
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copyright registration at issue in the case; (b) provide Rule 30(b)(6) deposition testimony on the same topic and, with respect to derivative works, basic identifying information about the creation, ownership, and content of the underlying works and the content of the material allegedly added; and (c) produce (or even search for) work for hire agreements it contends exist or documents sufficient to identify the individuals who created the materials allegedly covered by the registrations. (c) Motion to Compel Damages Related Documents
Defendants also continue to meet and confer with Oracle regarding their anticipated motion to compel damages related information that was discussed at the last discovery conference. Defendants plan to present a briefing schedule to the Court for this motion as well if the issues remain unresolved at the October 10 conference. Defendants anticipate that the motion will address two issues. The first is simply a date certain for production of financial information that Oracle has already agreed to produce more than two months ago. The second concerns Defendants' request for production of Oracle's and PeopleSoft's charts of accounts and general ledgers. Defendants requested the general ledgers because they appear to be a source of cost information Defendants need to calculate Oracle's alleged lost profits. Oracle objected based on burden. DATED: October 3, 2008 BINGHAM McCUTCHEN LLP
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/s/ Geoffrey M. Howard Geoffrey M. Howard Attorneys for Plaintiffs Oracle Corporation, Oracle International Corporation, and Oracle USA, Inc.
In accordance with General Order No. 45, Rule X, the above signatory attests that concurrence in the filing of this document has been obtained from the signatory below.
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BINGHAM McCUTCHEN LLP DONN P. PICKETT (SBN 72257) GEOFFREY M. HOWARD (SBN 157468) HOLLY A. HOUSE (SBN 136045) ZACHARY J. ALINDER (SBN 209009) BREE HANN (SBN 215695) Three Embarcadero Center San Francisco, CA 94111-4067 Telephone: (415) 393-2000 Facsimile: (415) 393-2286 donn.pickett@bingham.com geoff.howard@bingham.com holly.house@bingham.com zachary.alinder@bingham.com bree.hann@bingham.com DORIAN DALEY (SBN 129049) JENNIFER GLOSS (SBN 154227) 500 Oracle Parkway M/S 5op7 Redwood City, CA 94070 Telephone: (650) 506-4846 Facsimile: (650) 506-7114 dorian.daley@oracle.com jennifer.gloss@oracle.com Attorneys for Plaintiffs Oracle Corporation, Oracle USA, Inc., and Oracle International Corporation UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION
ORACLE CORPORATION, a Delaware corporation, ORACLE USA, INC., a Colorado corporation, and ORACLE INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION, a California corporation, v. Plaintiffs,
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Plaintiffs Oracle Corporation, Oracle USA, Inc., and Oracle International Corporation Defendants SAP AG, SAP America, Inc., and TomorrowNow, Inc. One
Pursuant to the agreement of the Parties, as set forth in the August 21, 2008 Joint Discovery Conference Statement, plaintiffs Oracle Corporation, Oracle USA, Inc., and Oracle International Corporation (collectively, "Oracle") hereby request that defendants SAP AG, SAP America, Inc. ("SAP America" and together with SAP AG, "SAP"), and TomorrowNow, Inc. ("TN") (collectively, "Defendants" or "You") respond to the following targeted search requests, and produce Documents as required by the agreed Targeted Search Protocol. DEFINITIONS Unless otherwise indicated, the following definitions shall apply to each of the Targeted Search Requests below. 1. "And" and "or" shall be construed both conjunctively and disjunctively and each
shall include the other whenever such construction will serve to bring within the scope of these Requests any information that would not otherwise be brought within their scope. 2. "Communication" means any and all contact or transmission of information
between two or more Persons, whether in a face-to-face meeting, telephone conversation, or otherwise, or whether by letter, electronic mail, instant messaging system, facsimile transmission, cable, letters, correspondence, video conference, message, or any other method or medium of information transfer or exchange. 3. "Document(s)" is used in these Requests as broadly as is allowed under the
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, and thus includes without limitation writings; records; files; correspondence; reports; memoranda; calendars; diaries; minutes; electronic messages; voicemail; email; telephone message records or logs; computer and network activity logs; data on hard drives; backup data; data on removable computer storage media such as tapes, disks, and cards; printouts; Document image files; web pages; databases; spreadsheets; software; hardware; books; ledgers; journals; orders; invoices; bills; vouchers; checks; statements; 2 07-CV-1658 PJH (EDL)
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worksheets; summaries; compilations; computations; charts; diagrams; graphic presentations; drawings; films; charts; digital or chemical process photographs; video, phonographic, tape, or digital records or transcripts thereof; drafts; jottings; and notes. "Document(s)" also includes any copies that differ in any respect from the original or other versions of the Document(s), such as, but not limited to, copies containing notations, insertions, corrections, marginal notes, or any other variations. INSTRUCTIONS 1. If You claim any form of privilege as a ground for not producing or for redacting
any Document, You shall provide the following information for each Document withheld or redacted: (1) the Document's preparation date and the date appearing on the Document; (2) the name, present and last known addresses, telephone numbers, titles (and positions), and occupations of those individuals who prepared, produced, reproduced, and received said Document, including all authors, senders, recipients, "cc" recipients, and "bcc" recipients; (3) the number of pages withheld; and (4) a description sufficient to identify the Document without revealing the information for which the privilege is claimed, including the general subject matter and character of the Document (e.g., letter, memorandum, notes, etc.). 2. If only a portion of a responsive Document is privileged against disclosure, You
must produce the responsive non-privileged portion of the Document in redacted form, provided that the redacted material is identified and the basis for the claim of privilege is stated as provided in Instruction No. 1 above. 3. If a Document once existed, but has been lost or destroyed, or otherwise is no
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otherwise stated, all Requests refer to the period of time since January 1, 2002 and through the present day. TARGETED SEARCH REQUESTS TARGETED SEARCH REQUEST NO. 1: FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS The following subset of Defendants' relevant financial Documents: (a) Documents comparable to Oracle's relevant "Customer-Specific Financial Reports," as described in Briana Rosenbaum's August 27, 2008 email to Jason McDonell for all TN customers, for all Safe Passage deals with TN as a component, and for SAP sales to TN customers after acquisition of TN; (b) summary sales and profit numbers for all TN customers, for Safe Passage deals with TN as a component, and for SAP sales to TN customers after acquisition of TN; (c) reports sufficient to confirm that the 61 customers listed in the Customer List attached to Jane Froyd's July 18, 2008 email are the only SAP customers who either (1) had a contract with TN as a component of their Safe Passage deal, or (2) were previously (or, to the extent the customer was sold TN and SAP products/support together, at the same time) a TN customer who SAP then mined for further sales of software or service; (d) quantifications or analyses of actual or projected revenue that would be or was lost by Oracle, or any harm that might be or was caused to Oracle, from TN, from SAP's acquisition of TN, or from SAP's incorporation of TN into its Safe Passage program including, but not limited to, Documents related to the 1:10 and 1:18 metrics contained in Hurst Depo. Ex. 174 and other instances where these metrics were adopted or rejected by SAP; (e) Documents reflecting TN's expected contributions to Safe Passage (including anticipated service revenues and assistance in driving applications sales); (f) financials reflecting actual or projected benefits related to TN's service on any Oracle-branded software and any follow-on sales projected in connection with TN's offering of such service; (g) all business cases (and assumptions and financial backup regarding the same) related to the TN acquisition and any proposed expansions of TN service to any Oracle-owned software; (h) pro-formas and forecasts (and associated assumptions and financial back-up) for sales, revenue, and profits for the Safe Passage program overall (including for the TN aspect); (i) research, reports, and analyses 4 07-CV-1658 PJH (EDL)
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regarding how long TN customers might be expected to remain on TN service, and how long TN customers were expected to continue using Oracle products before migrating to SAP software (relevant Documents would include SAP's historic applications sales pipeline close rates and SAP's historic service contract and application license renewal rates); (j) SAP's and TN's research and development costs associated with the development of support products (both TN support products and SAP support products for SAP applications); (k) SAP's profit margins for service and applications sales and Documents explaining how they are calculated; and (l) Documents showing SAP's valuation of the intellectual property of any company it has acquired (including, but not limited to, Business Objects). TARGETED SEARCH REQUEST NO. 2: CORPORATE POLICIES RELATED TO COPYRIGHTS, TECHNICAL SUPPORT SERVICES AND USE OF THIRD PARTY SOURCE CODE The following subset of Defendants' Relevant Policy and Procedure Documents: (a) Defendants' policies or procedures for opening Oracle's or any third party's source code locally; (b) general polices and procedures related to analyzing, auditing, and terminating customer access to Defendants' support materials, including but limited to access by any customer or independent third party support provider related to the customer; and (c) Defendants' copyright registration and enforcement policies and procedures for (1) determining authorship, (2) determining ownership (including policies and procedures regarding works made for hire and works developed by independent contractors and the form agreements used in doing so), (3) determining originality, (4) determining copyrightability of the subject matter, (5) determination of pre-existing works to the registered work, (6) determining the publication date, (7) determining when to file the application, (8) providing deposit materials to the Copyright Office, (9) assigning registered works between or among Defendants or any parent or subsidiary, (10) licensing registered works between or among Defendants or any parent or subsidiary, (11) determining whether a work constitutes a derivative work; and (12) determining when and how to enforce copyrights registered by any of Defendants. 5
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TARGETED SEARCH REQUEST NO. 3: CUSTOMER WIN/LOSS CAUSATION DOCUMENTS Defendants' Relevant Won/Lost Customer Causation Evidence, akin to that Provided in Oracle's At-Risk Reports, including Documents that would explain why any of TN's customers (including any of the 61 identified customers in the Customer List attached to Jane Froyd's July 18, 2008 email) left Oracle, what Communications were made to any of them about TN's use of Oracle's intellectual property and the importance to them of those representations, and the relevance to any Safe Passage customer of the TN aspect of the Safe Passage offering. Per meet and confer discussions, in addition to the SAS database snapshot already produced, likely sources would include the fully updated SAS database, relevant Documents from Defendants' customer relationship management databases, (including, e.g., comments or emails of the principal SAP service representative for the SAP/TN accounts), win/loss reports discussing any customers gained from Oracle, and customer survey data (about the customers' decisions to choose TN or SAP). DATED: August 29, 2008 BINGHAM McCUTCHEN LLP
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BINGHAM McCUTCHEN LLP DONN P. PICKETT (SBN 72257) GEOFFREY M. HOWARD (SBN 157468) HOLLY A. HOUSE (SBN 136045) ZACHARY J. ALINDER (SBN 209009) BREE HANN (SBN 215695) Three Embarcadero Center San Francisco, CA 94111-4067 Telephone: (415) 393-2000 Facsimile: (415) 393-2286 donn.pickett@bingham.com geoff.howard@bingham.com holly.house@bingham.com zachary.alinder@bingham.com bree.hann@bingham.com DORIAN DALEY (SBN 129049) JENNIFER GLOSS (SBN 154227) 500 Oracle Parkway M/S 5op7 Redwood City, CA 94070 Telephone: (650) 506-4846 Facsimile: (650) 506-7114 dorian.daley@oracle.com jennifer.gloss@oracle.com Attorneys for Plaintiffs Oracle Corporation, Oracle USA, Inc., and Oracle International Corporation
Robert A. Mittelstaedt (SBN 060359) Jason McDonell (SBN 115084) Elaine Wallace (SBN 197882) JONES DAY 555 California Street, 26th Floor San Francisco, CA 94104 Telephone: (415) 626-3939 Facsimile: (415) 875-5700 ramittelstaedt@jonesday.com jmcdonell@jonesday.com ewallace@jonesday.com Tharan Gregory Lanier (SBN 138784) Jane L. Froyd (SBN 220776) JONES DAY 1755 Embarcadero Road Palo Alto, CA 94303 Telephone: (650) 739-3939 Facsimile: (650) 739-3900 tglanier@jonesday.com jfroyd@jonesday.com Scott W. Cowan (Admitted Pro Hac Vice) Joshua L. Fuchs (Admitted Pro Hac Vice) JONES DAY 717 Texas, Suite 3300 Houston, TX 77002 Telephone: (832) 239-3939 Facsimile: (832) 239-3600 swcowan@jonesday.com jlfuchs@jonesday.com Attorneys for Defendants SAP AG, SAP AMERICA, INC., and TOMORROWNOW, INC.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION ORACLE CORPORATION, et al., Plaintifs, v. SAP AG, et al., Defendants. Case No. 07-CV-1658 PJH (EDL) JOINT DISCOVERY CONFERENCE STATEMENT Date: July 1, 2008 Time: 11:00 a.m. Courtroom: E, 15th Floor Judge: Hon. Elizabeth D. Laporte
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its relevant customer licenses, and the revenue streams reasonably associated with its customers who left for SAP TN (though Defendants seek much more). 4 Oracle needs to spend the limited time allotted to discovery reviewing Defendants' relevant documents and taking Defendants' depositions, not producing irrelevant information. Thus, whatever custodial limits are imposed on Defendants, Oracle requests that it be ordered to produce between one third and one half of Defendants' total. (2) Targeted Searches
The Parties agree that certain types of information should be specifically looked for from likely sources, such as a centralized database or from the person most likely to have such information rather than assuming such information would be revealed in custodial productions. Oracle views this as an important safety net against the limited number of custodial productions. Oracle has suggested each Party be able to propound 10 targeted searches, with the ability for good cause shown, to seek the Court's order for more. In mid-May, two weeks before the last Discovery Conference, Oracle provided Defendants with an initial list of targeted searches it wanted assurance from Defendants they were providing in addition to custodial searches: (1) board materials; (2) financial information; (3) customer contracts for customers (and communications with them) claimed as wins in Defendants' Safe Passage program; (4) Defendants' reports on customer wins, losses and those at risk (analogous reports to reports Oracle found by targeted search and already produced to
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For instance, Defendants have sought all of Oracle's documents concerning its competition with SAP and all of Oracle's financial documents (at the general ledger level) discovery far afield from the products and issues in this case. See, e.g., Defendants' RFP No. 91 (seeking all documents relating Oracle's strategy to offer a broad product line "to compete against SAP AG"); Defendants' RFP No. 81 (seeking all documents related to "Project Fusion"); Defendants' First 30(b)(6) Notice of Deposition of Plaintiff Oracle Corp. Topic 6 (seeking to depose a witness on Oracle's general "Sales, marketing, or competitive intelligence . . . relating to SAP and/or TN"). Defendants have also sought all of Oracle's financial documents, at the general ledger level, to support every aspect Oracle business, including all "new software license revenue and expenses," "On Demand revenue and expenses," all "departments" of the PeopleSoft organization, and Oracle's "executive" department. See, e.g., June 6, 2008 Letter from Mr. McDonell to Mr. Howard. And, Defendants have repeatedly requested information about Oracle products and services completely (and admittedly) unrelated to the products at issue in this case. See, e.g., Defendants' RFP No. 67 ("Documents sufficient to show Oracle's revenues, costs, and profit margins for products other than those referred to in the Complaint or at issue in this litigation, and services relating to such products."). 7
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Defendants); (5) documents related to the acquisition of SAP TN (including business cases/financial projections/risk analysis/board reports); (6) relevant policy and procedure documents; and (7) documents related to Project Blue and the issues considered as part of it. On June 19, Defendants stated in meet and confer correspondence that they were willing to perform some of these targeted searches, but not all. For instance, they refuse to look for specific lost customer-related communications as part of a targeted search but instead seek to charge against their custodian limit any searches for specific lost customers; they refuse to produce all acquisition or Project Blue documents but want to rely on the production of such documents from custodians. Meet and confer continues on the specifics of what Defendants will do and which of these categories is not appropriate for targeted search. Oracle has already performed many robust targeted searches in responding to Defendants' discovery requests (including from approximately 30 to 40 additional custodians and about 10 centralized information sources). In early June Oracle asked for and on June 19 it received, Defendants' proposed additional targeted search list, namely (1) copyright information, (2) IP due diligence in connection with Oracle's acquisition of PeopleSoft, (2) PeopleSoft IP due diligence, (3) all third party "At Risk" reports, (4) all relevant policy and procedure documents, (5) all communications between SAP TN and Oracle, (6) customer files, (7) sales and customer information comparable to those Defendants are agreeing to produce through targeted searches. While the Parties are meeting and conferring on specifics, and Oracle does not agree, e.g., to produce topic number (5), which is one of the subjects of Defendants' current appeal, or to produce "complete" customer files for topic number (6), which is not a targeted search but a request for review of all custodians related to those customers, 5 Oracle has agreed to the concept of appropriate and reciprocal targeted searches but only if they complement the limited custodial production (and not take up slots within it). The timing of production of these targeted searches needs to be resolved. Oracle believes
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acquired in January 2005, and J. D. Edwards, which PeopleSoft acquired in June 2003. Thus Defendants' discovery of Plaintiffs relates not only to the documents and information of the three Oracle-entity Plaintiffs but to two additional large software companies whose historical documents and information are now, by virtue of a stock purchase, in Oracle's custody. Finally, such a lopsided limit is contrary to the spirit of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which set objective discovery limits per side not per party. Likewise, the District Judge has imposed equal, not disproportionate deposition limits and written discovery limits in this case. Accordingly, there is no basis to start applying discovery limits unevenly in this case, and whatever number the Court sets as the objective numeric limit on custodians should be applied equally to both sides of this case. (2) Targeted Searches
Defendants agree that the use of "targeted searches" is appropriate in addition to custodian searches. Defendants consider a targeted search to be a search of reasonably well-defined information that is located in common files and that are not the personal working files of a particular individual (e.g., a search for financial records maintained by a finance department or customer files maintained by a sales and marketing department). Targeted searches can also include limited searches of a custodian's files (e.g., search of an individual's files for communications with a particular company, as opposed to all search terms or a document by document review that is part of a full custodian search). In light of the enormous time and expense burdens of the full custodian searches in this case, there should be reasonable limits on targeted searches to ensure that the discovery burdens are proportionate. Defendants propose that each side should be able to propose targeted searches to the other side consistent with their discovery requests. Defendants believe that a presumptive limit of ten reasonably specific targeted searches per side is reasonable. Defendants have initially identified seven such targeted searches as follows: (1) copyright information; (2) financial information; (3) any analysis by Oracle of the intellectual property assets of PeopleSoft and/or JDE prior to, subsequent to, or in connection with its acquisition of PeopleSoft; (4) information concerning the reasons it lost customers to TomorrowNow; (5) policy 17
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and procedure documents; (6) Oracle's communications with or about TomorrowNow; 11 (7) complete customer files regarding customers lost to TomorrowNow. Defendants have not, as Oracle claims, refused to do targeted searches on acquisition or Project Blue documents or on communications relating to lost customers. Defendants have informed Oracle that the acquisition and Project Blue documents are largely, if not completely, covered by the custodians whose productions Oracle has received or will receive. Defendants do not believe there are any such documents that are not custodian-based, but to the extent there are, Defendants have agreed to search central repositories for them. Defendants have also agreed to targeted searches relating to lost customers, as discussed further below. (3) Search Terms
The Parties have exchanged lists of search terms in order to narrow the scope of a custodian's electronic documents to be reviewed. Initially, Oracle's search term list contained 978 search terms. Defendants' first draft of its search term list contained 72 search terms. When Defendants ran Oracle's original list of search terms over nine sample custodians that were previously produced, the terms eliminated only 8.2% of the data to be reviewed and still missed 0.4% of Defendants' responsive documents. Defendants' list of 72 search terms resulted in the elimination of 20.6% of the data to be reviewed and missed 10.3% of Defendants' responsive documents. After this initial process, the Parties continued to meet and confer regarding the list of relevant search terms and their respective testing and validation of such terms. Defendants agreed to compromise by adding to their search term list and refining Oracle's list of 978 terms. Defendants have spent numerous days trying to create and evaluate a list that provides for the highest possible reduction in the data to be reviewed while capturing an acceptably high percentage of responsive documents. However, the Parties disagree on what constitutes an acceptably high percentage of responsive documents. Oracle has made it clear through the meet and confer process that it is interested in nothing less than 100% capture of responsive documents These communications between Oracle and TomorrowNow are subject to Defendants' pending objection to the Special Master's recommendation, which is scheduled for hearing at the same time as the July 1, 2008 discovery conference. 18
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