Affinity Labs of Texas, LLC v. Apple, Inc.

Filing 198

ORDER by Judge LARSON denying 175 Motion to Compel (jllc1, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 5/9/2011)

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 9 NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 Affinity Labs of Texas, et al., 12 13 No. C 09-4436 CW (JL) Plaintiffs, ORDER DENYING MOTION TO COMPEL DEPOSITION (Docket # 148) v. 14 Apple, Inc, 15 Defendants. ________________________________/ 16 I. Introduction 17 The motion of Plaintiffs Affinity Labs of Texas, et al. to compel the deposition of 18 Defendant Apple’s Chief Executive Officer, Steve Jobs, and Apple’s motion for protective 19 order to prevent the deposition were submitted without oral argument as provided by Civil 20 Local Rule 7-1(b). All discovery in this case was referred by the district court (Hon. Claudia 21 Wilken) under 28 U.S.C. §636(b). The Court carefully considered the moving and opposing 22 papers and the arguments of counsel and hereby denies the motion to compel and grants 23 the motion for protective order. The Court finds that Affinity not only fails to show that Jobs 24 possesses unique, personal non-repetitive firsthand knowledge of relevant facts, but also 25 fails to show that Affinity has exhausted less burdensome means to obtain that information. 26 II. Background 27 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 1 of 26 1 Affinity is a non-practicing entity (“NPE”), which owns and defends patents and 2 engages primarily in litigation. Apple is high on the list of companies most often sued by 3 NPEs. (Ex. 4 to Glasser Declaration ISO Apple’s opposition to motion to compel). 4 Affinity sued Apple in the Eastern District of Texas, alleging willful infringement of 5 U.S. Patent No. 7,187,947, U.S. Patent No. 7,440,772, and U.S. Patent No. 7,486,926 6 (collectively, the “Patents-in-Suit”). 7 A. 8 In its complaint Affinity contends: 9 That Apple’s acts of infringement of the ‘947 Patent include the manufacturing, Allegations of the Complaint using, marketing, offering for sale, and/or selling of the iPhone line of products and 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 developing, maintaining, using, marketing, making available, offering to sell and selling 12 software applications for the iPhone line of products through Apple’s App Store mobile 13 software application; 14 That Apple’s acts of infringement of the ‘772 Patent include the manufacturing, 15 using, marketing, offering for sale, and/or selling of the iPhone and iPod Touch line of 16 products and developing, maintaining, using, marketing, making available, offering to sell 17 and selling digital audio through the iTunes software application on a personal computer 18 and through the iTunes mobile software application on the iPhone and iPod Touch line of 19 products: and finally, 20 That Apple’s acts of infringement of the ‘926 Patent include manufacturing, using, 21 marketing, offering for sale, and/or selling of the iPod, iPhone and iPod Touch line of 22 products that can be integrated with a separate sound system and developing, maintaining, 23 using, marketing, making available, offering to sell and selling digital audio through the 24 iTunes software application on a personal computer that can be transferred to the iPod, 25 iPhone and iPod Touch line of products. 26 (Complaint, Docket # 1) 27 B. Procedural Background 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 2 of 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 In August 2009, the district court in Texas transferred this case to the Northern District of California, finding that Apple’s headquarters, many of its employees, and a substantial percentage of the relevant documents and other evidence in Apple’s possession are located in the Northern District of California. Although Affinity Labs is a Texas limited liability company with all of its own offices, documents, and witnesses located in Texas, no evidence – and, at best, only one witness – is found within the boundaries of the Eastern District of Texas. Given these facts, the court will grant Apple’s motion. This case is transferred to the United States District Court for the Northern District of California. 7 (Order at Docket # 30) 8 The case was assigned to the Hon. Claudia Wilken. Apple filed a motion to stay 9 pending inter partes examination of the patents in suit. (Docket # 49). Although the U.S. Patent Office has granted Apple’s application, Judge Wilken denied the motion to stay (at 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 Docket # 63), finding that the patent re-examination process may take an average of 36 12 months and then more if a party appeals, and that the delay would be prejudicial to Affinity. 13 The parties were referred to private mediation, and a stipulated protective order was 14 entered. Judge Wilken also denied Affinity’s motion to admit evidence of depositions taken 15 in its lawsuit against BMW, finding that Affinity failed to present evidence that the 16 deponents would be unavailable for deposition in this case. (Docket # 92). Judge Wilken 17 denied Apple’s motion to file a first amended answer, affirmative defenses and 18 counterclaims, on grounds that Apple had failed to satisfy the requirements of FRCP 16. 19 (Docket # 122). 20 Discovery was referred to this Court (Docket # 124, 129). The parties had a number 21 of discovery disputes regarding depositions which this Court handled on an expedited bass, 22 and Affinity sought discovery from non-parties AT&T Mobility and Facebook, who filed 23 motions for protective order, which were resolved partly by the parties and partly by this 24 Court. This motion to compel the deposition of Apple CEO Steven P. Jobs was initially filed 25 on letter briefs but the Court ordered the parties to submit formal briefing. 26 III. Discovery in Dispute A. Affinity Notices the Deposition of Apple CEO Steve Jobs 27 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 3 of 26 1 1. Anticipated Testimony 2 Plaintiff Affinity Labs of Texas, LLC (“Affinity”) seeks an Order compelling a 3 deposition of Steven P. Jobs, CEO of Defendant Apple Inc. Affinity seeks Mr. Jobs’ 4 deposition because he has unique, first-hand knowledge of facts that are relevant to the 5 central issues in this case. Affinity recognizes that Mr. Jobs is the CEO and that Apple 6 would like to shield him under the "apex doctrine." However, that doctrine does not apply 7 to individuals with firsthand knowledge of relevant information. Another court in this district 8 addressed this very issue on March 21, 2011, and is requiring Mr. Jobs to sit for a 9 deposition because of his firsthand knowledge of issues in that case. Apple iPod iTunes 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 Antitrust Litigation, C.A. No. C05-00037 JW (HRL), D.I. 543 (N.D. Cal. Mar. 21, 2011). In the present patent infringement case, Affinity accuses Apple's iPhone, iPod, iPad, 12 iTunes Store, iTunes software, and App Store of infringing three Affinity patents that 13 broadly cover these products and date back to March 2000. Generally, the infringement 14 claims are based on Apple's portable electronic devices (the iPod) and cell phones (the 15 iPhone) that wirelessly download items such as such as music and feature-rich 16 applications. Accordingly, one of the central issues in this case is the value to Apple of its 17 iTunes Store and App Store - i.e., the value of a patent that fundamentally covers the ability 18 of consumers to wirelessly download music and applications to a portable cell phone or 19 MP3 player. Another feature is the software in these devices that allow third-party 20 accessories to control them (e.g., a car stereo that can connect to and control an iPod). 21 Likewise, Apple has asserted that Affinity's patents covering these features are obvious, 22 that these features were not innovative as far back as March 2000. 23 Affinity argues that Mr. Jobs’ public statements about the importance of the 24 technology at issue go to the heart of the damages and patent validity issues. Mr. Jobs 25 used such phrases as "innovative," "revolutionary," and "ground breaking" to publicly 26 describe iTunes and the App Store and other accused technology in numerous statements, 27 and did so years after Affinity filed its patents. Affinity characterizes these statements as 28 confirming that the patents certainly would not have been obvious at the early date when C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 4 of 26 1 they were filed. In addition, Mr. Jobs has made statements about the importance of 2 patents that cover smartphones such as the iPhone, and Apple's views of patents when 3 enforcing its own intellectual property. He has also provided public commentary about a 4 widely reported $100 million patent license that Apple entered into for a single patent on 5 related technology. That patent post-dates the Affinity patents and Affinity claims it is 6 objectively less valuable than Affinity's patents. Apple has told Affinity that it has no 7 documents or analysis of the specific value of any of these claimed features. Affinity 8 argues that Mr. Jobs has firsthand knowledge of these critical issues, as he is the only 9 witness who actually made the specific statements to the public, and that therefore he should be subject to deposition by Affinity. 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 2. 12 Apple is a leading provider of personal computers, mobile communication and media Steve Jobs’ role at Apple 13 devices, and portable digital music players, and it sells a variety of related software, 14 services, peripherals, networking solutions, and third-party digital applications and content. 15 Glasser Declaration, Ex. 1 at 1. Apple's innovative products are sold in more than 100 16 countries, and Apple employs more than 45,000 people worldwide. Id. at 10. 17 Apple's success has also attracted unwanted attention. Apple is a frequent target for 18 litigation, including patent litigation by non-practicing entities. PatentFreedom.com-a 19 website devoted to research related to patent enforcement actions-recently identified Apple 20 as the most "relentlessly pursued" operating company by non-practicing entities between 21 2008 and 2010. Glasser Declaration Ex. 4. Between 2006 and 2010, Apple was named as 22 a defendant in 70 separate lawsuits filed by non-practicing entities. Id. 23 Mr. Jobs co-founded Apple in 1976 and is now its CEO and a director. After leaving 24 Apple in 1986, Mr. Jobs returned in 1997 to lead Apple's historic recovery. As CEO, Mr. 25 Jobs is responsible for the management and oversight of Apple's complex global 26 operations. Mr. Jobs also co-founded Pixar Animation Studios, which created several of 27 the most successful feature-length animated films of all time, including Toy Story, 28 Monsters, Inc., and The Incredibles. Ex. 2. He served as Pixar's CEO from 1986 until C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 5 of 26 1 2006, when Pixar merged with The Walt Disney Company. Mr. Jobs is now a member of 2 Disney's board of directors and serves on a six-person steering committee that oversees 3 Pixar. Ex. 3. His time is a critical asset for Apple and Disney, and he carefully manages 4 his schedule to ensure that he can devote the necessary energy, attention and focus to his 5 duties and responsibilities for the benefit of shareholders, customers and employees. 6 Given his leading roles at Apple and Pixar/Disney, Mr. Jobs has become one of the 7 most recognizable CEOs in the world, and he is regularly quoted regarding Apple and its 8 many product offerings. For instance, he has historically provided the keynote presentation 9 at the annual Worldwide Developers Conference, which is one method for Apple to showcase its new software and technologies for developers. 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 B. 12 Affinity and Apple met and conferred multiple times, but were unable to resolve this The Parties Meet and Confer 13 issue. Fact discovery in this case closed on March 21, 2011. (Docket # 128). Affinity filed 14 under seal a full motion to compel this deposition on March 24, 2011 (Docket # 147, 148). 15 If the Court orders Mr. Jobs’ deposition, Apple will not oppose scheduling it after the close 16 of fact discovery. (Gaudet Decl. ¶24, February 3, 2011 email from Glasser to Gaudet). 17 C. Discovery at Issue 18 1. Mr. Jobs’ Statements 19 Affinity seeks to depose Mr. Jobs on these public statements: 20 (a) 21 "The App Store is a grand slam, with a staggering 10 million applications Statements about the accused App Store 22 downloaded in just three days. Developers have created some extraordinary applications, 23 and the App Store can wirelessly deliver them to every iPhone and iPod touch user 24 instantly." (Gaudet Decl. 8). 25 26 27 Describing the App Store as follows: "This is the biggest launch of my career." (Gaudet Decl. 9). "The App Store revolutionized mobile apps." (Gaudet Decl. 10). 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 6 of 26 1 "I would now like to talk about the App store for a few minutes. One area we 2 completely changed the value proposition from mobile devices is the App store. Customers 3 will download the 200 millionth application from the App store tomorrow. Only 102 days 4 since its launch on July 11th. The 200 millionth App. We've never seen anything like this 5 in our careers. There are now over 5,500 applications offered on the App store in 62 6 countries around the world, and the rate of new applications being submitted is increasing 7 every week. Competitors are scrambling to keep our App store, but it's not as easy as it 8 looks, and we are far along in creating the virtuous cycle of cool applications begetting 9 more iPhone sales, thereby creating an even larger market, which will attract even more iPhone software development. It is clear that customers are not attracted to iPhone 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 if[sic]only for its amazing functionality and revolutionary multi-touch user interface, but also 12 for its unique ability to let users easily purchase, download, and use thousands of different 13 applications, raining[sic] from free games to financial planning and health management. All 14 of this in only 102 days." (Gaudet Decl. 11). 15 "These devices need to work, and you can't do that if you load any software on 16 them. That doesn't mean there's not going to be software to buy that you can load on them 17 coming from us. It doesn't mean we have to write it all, but it means it has to be more of a 18 controlled environment." (Gaudet Decl. 12). 19 (b) 20 The Apple press release regarding the Wireless iTunes Store, stating: "With the Statements about the accused Wireless Music Store 21 iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store, music fans can start enjoying their music purchases immediately 22 on their iPod touch or iPhone with no computer required. . . If users have only partially 23 downloaded a song or album onto their iPod touch or iPhone their computer will complete 24 the download automatically." . . .In the next paragraph, Mr. Jobs states: 25 "The iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store is really fun - you can browse, search, freely preview, 26 buy and instantly download music right onto your iPod touch or iPhone. Innovative 27 products like this keep iTunes at the forefront of the digital music revolution." (Gaudet 28 Decl. 13). (c) Statements about the accused iTunes client software application C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 7 of 26 1 2 "Wouldn't it be awesome if people could buy high-quality audio tracks via the internet 3 and load them directly into iTunes instead of going to the store to buy CDs to rip?" (Gaudet 4 Decl. 14). 5 "For years, the primary technology was the [marking mechanism] inside a CD or a 6 DVD player. But we became convinced that software was going to be the primary 7 technology, and we're a pretty good software company. So we developed iTunes." 8 (Gaudet Decl. 15). 9 Statements about the accused iPod "Apple has invented a whole new category of digital music player that lets you put 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 (d) your entire music collection in your pocket and listen to it wherever you go. Isn't this cool?" 12 (Gaudet Decl. 14). 13 "With iPod, listening to music will never be the same again." (Id.). 14 (e) 15 16 Statements about the first product that used the allegedly infringing protocol in an iPod that allows an accessory device (such as an automobile stereo) to control a iPod or iPhone "One of the next frontiers for a seamless digital music experience is the car. We all 17 spend a lot of time driving, and now this elegant solution lets iPod users enjoy their entire 18 music collection in their BMW or MINI." (Gaudet Decl. 16). 19 "Apple chief executive Steve Jobs called the product a groundbreaking move . . . 20 'They're pretty ugly and they all require you to take your hands off the steering wheel to 21 control them. This adapter is really the first big step to marry an iPod to an automobile.'" 22 (Gaudet Decl. 17). 23 "Apple and BMW have outpaced the industry around the innovation curve. This 24 elegant solution enables auto enthusiasts to carry with them and enjoy their entire music 25 collection everywhere they go, heightening their ultimate driving experience." (Gaudet 26 Decl. 18). 27 (f) Statements about iTunes 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 8 of 26 1 "Software is the user experience. As the iPod and iTunes prove, it has become the 2 driving technology not just of computers but of computer electronics." (Gaudet Decl. 19). 3 "The mobile phone market - with 1.5 billion subscribers expected worldwide by the 4 end of 2004 - is a phenomenal opportunity to get iTunes in the hands of even more music 5 lovers around the world and we think Motorola is the ideal partner to kick this off." (Gaudet 6 Decl. 20). 7 (g) 8 "We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions or we can do 9 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 Statements about the importance of patents in the iPhone marketplace something about it. We've decided to do something about it." (Gaudet Decl. 21). "We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours." (Id.). 12 It is these types of statements - made personally by Mr. Jobs - on which Affinity 13 seeks to depose Mr. Jobs. Affinity claims it has jumped through a series of hoops with 14 other witnesses at Apple's insistence. Affinity argues that these witnesses have confirmed 15 a very basic rule of evidence: the person who makes the statement is the person who has 16 firsthand knowledge of that statement and the facts underlying it, and is therefore the 17 person who should be examined regarding the statement. 18 2. Apple claims Affinity has not sought any discovery on seven of the public statements. 19 According to Apple, Affinity has not pursued any discovery related to seven of the 18 20 public statements that form the basis for its request to depose Mr. Jobs. See Def. Motion 21 at Appx. A; PS3, PS5, PS7-10, and PS14. Each of these seven statements was published 22 and available to Affinity before it deposed its first Apple witness in this case on January 25, 23 2011. Id. Affinity's failure to seek any written or deposition discovery on these seven 24 statements before moving to compel Mr. Jobs’ deposition should bar Affinity from deposing 25 Mr. Jobs about those public statements. 26 Courts regularly require interrogatories, requests for admission, and depositions of 27 lower level employees before allowing the deposition of an apex witness. In Celerity, Inc., 28 2007 WL 205067, a patent infringement action, defendants claimed plaintiff's corporate C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 9 of 26 1 officers possessed personal knowledge regarding the chain of title to the patents-in-suit, 2 the decision to acquire certain intellectual property, and the valuation of plaintiff's 3 intellectual property. Id. at *4. This Court agreed that the acquisition of the intellectual 4 property was a "legitimate" area of inquiry, but it granted plaintiff's motion for protective 5 order because defendants failed to show those executives possessed "unique personal 6 knowledge . . . unavailable from less intrusive discovery, including interrogatories and the 7 depositions of lower-level employees." Id. 8 Similarly, in Mehmet v. Paypal, Inc., 2009 WL 921637, at *2 (N.D. Cal. Apr. 3, 2009), that "[c]ourts generally refuse to allow the immediate deposition of high-level executives, 11 For the Northern District of California the court granted a protective order barring the depositions of Paypal executives, noting 10 United States District Court 9 the so-called 'apex deponents,' before the depositions of lower level employees with more 12 intimate knowledge of the case." And in First Nat'l Mortgage Co. v. Fed. Realty Inv. Trust, 13 2007 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 88625, at *6-7 (N.D. Cal. Nov. 19, 2007), the court required that 14 depositions of lower-level employees must first be taken to establish whether there was a 15 need to depose high-level executives. 16 Because it failed to seek any discovery regarding these seven statements, Apple 17 argues that Affinity's Motion to compel should be denied, and Apple's Motion for protective 18 order should be granted with respect to PS3, PS5, PS7-10, and PS14 identified in 19 Appendix A. 20 3. 21 After Apple suggested there were other witnesses who could testify about what Mr. Apple’s other witnesses 22 Jobs meant when he made his statements, Affinity deposed the various "substitute" 23 witnesses Apple identified. According to Affinity, those witnesses attempted to dilute the 24 importance of this technology and to re-characterize the statements made by Mr. Jobs, 25 confirming the need to depose Mr. Jobs. In fact, those witnesses merely disagreed with 26 Affinity’s paraphrasing or interpretation of Jobs’ statements, not with the statements 27 themselves. 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 10 of 26 1 Much of this testimony was filed with this Court under seal, as containing highly 2 confidential information. Accordingly, although this Court carefully read all the testimony 3 submitted, it does not repeat it here, nor does it identify the witnesses by name. 4 a. Witness A - 5 During one witness’s deposition, Affinity characterized his testimony as discounting 6 Jobs’ statements regarding the first product that used the allegedly infringing protocol to 7 allow an accessory device to control an iPod). Many of Jobs' statements were part of 8 documents that were on the exhibit list in a jury trial on related patents that Affinity claims to 9 have won in October 2010 in the Eastern District of Texas. (This is the same trial where witnesses were deposed and Judge Wilken in this case denied Affinity’s request to submit 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 the witnesses’s deposition testimony as evidence in this case because Affinity failed to 12 show that the witnesses would be unavailable to testify.) That trial was against car 13 manufacturers that offered iPod and iPhone adapters that allowed car users (BMW and 14 Mini) to play and control their Apple devices through their car stereos. (Gaudet Decl. 27). 15 In those statements, Mr. Jobs referred to this technology as "groundbreaking" (among 16 other laudatory statements), described the " innovative" nature of the BMW iPod adapter 17 (which was the first iPod accessory product to make use of the accused functionality), and 18 specifically criticized the prior art in this area. To demonstrate the high probative value of 19 such statements, the Court in the Eastern District of Texas trial specifically cited these 20 types of statements as strong evidence supporting the jury verdict of non-obviousness in 21 denying defendants' JMOLs following the jury verdict. (Gaudet Decl. 28). Indeed, one 22 defendant who settled just before trial put Mr. Jobs on their "may call list" for live trial 23 testimony. (Gaudet Decl. 29, Ex. B to Pretrial Order). 24 25 26 27 The witness was therefore examined on the following three sets of statements by Mr. Jobs: 6/21/04 Press Release: "Apple and BMW have outpaced the industry around the innovation curve," said Steve Jobs, Apple CEO. "This elegant solution enables auto 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 11 of 26 1 enthusiasts to carry with them and enjoy their entire music collection everywhere they go, 2 heightening their ultimate driving experience." (Gaudet Decl. 18). 3 6/23/04 Australian IT: "Apple chief executive Steve Jobs called the product a 4 groundbreaking move - one he hopes will lead to more integrated products between the 5 auto industry and Apple's hot-selling iPod portable music player. Current iPod owners 6 usually resort to third-party products, ranging from FM transmitters and cassette adaptors, 7 to use their iPods in their cars. 'They're pretty ugly and they all require you to take your 8 hands off the steering wheel to control them,' Mr. Jobs said in an interview. 'This adapter is 9 really the first big step to marry an, iPod to an automobile.'" (Gaudet Decl. 17). 6/24/04 Canadian Automotive Network: "'One of the next frontiers for a seamless 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 digital music experience is the car,' said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. 'We all spend a lot of 12 time driving, and now this elegant solution lets iPod users enjoy their entire music collection 13 in their BMW or MINI.'" (Gaudet Decl. 16). 14 According to Affinity, at his deposition the witness attempted to completely change 15 the meaning of these statements. Affinity argues that the witness testified that the BMW 16 iPod adapter was neither innovative, groundbreaking, nor the next frontier of anything. In 17 fact, this Court finds that the witness merely disagreed with Affinity’s paraphrasing and 18 interpretation of Jobs’ statements. 19 Affinity tries to criticize the witness’s testimony in two contradictory ways: First it 20 claims that he disagrees with Jobs’ statements and then it claims that he didn’t hear Jobs 21 make the statements in exactly the same words as Affinity is quoting. The Court finds that 22 this type of quibbling over manufactured differences does not justify deposing Mr. Jobs. 23 b. 24 Affinity questioned this witness on Jobs' public comments on Apple's $100 million Witness B - 25 patent license with Creative. The Creative agreement involved a patent license in which 26 Apple paid $100 million for a license to an iPod-related patent with a 2001 priority date (i.e., 27 a year later than Affinity's priority date). This was the press release about that license: 28 CUPERTINO, California and SINGAPORE - August 23, 2006 - Apple® and Creative Technology, Ltd. today announced a broad settlement ending all legal disputes C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 12 of 26 1 2 3 between the two companies. Apple will pay Creative $100 million for a paid-up license to use Creative's recently awarded patent in all Apple products. Apple can recoup a portion of its payment if Creative is successful in licensing this patent to others. In addition, the companies announced that Creative has joined Apple's "Made for iPod" program and will be announcing their own iPod® accessory products later this year. 4 5 6 "Creative is very fortunate to have been granted this early patent," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "This settlement resolves all of our differences with Creative, including the five lawsuits currently pending between the companies, and removes the uncertainty and distraction of prolonged litigation." 7 (Gaudet Decl. 31). 8 According to Affinity, the witness by his testimony effectively disavowed the second 9 sentence in the press release. When Affinity confronted the witness with the direct quote from Jobs about the basis for the value of that single patent that the press release 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 identified, according to Affinity, he again attempted a swift retreat (Affinity’s 12 characterization) from Mr. Jobs' statements. Then, according to Affinity, the witness finally 13 admitted that his testimony did not even rise to the level of hearsay because he never 14 heard Mr. Jobs say the words that Mr. Lutton was attributing to him. 15 This Court finds that, in this line of questioning, Affinity tries to induce Witness B to 16 say that Jobs either never told him what he meant by “early,” or else told him something 17 different from what Affinity contends Jobs meant by “early,” but instead, Witness B testifies 18 that “early” in this press release refers to more than one patent, and not just the patent that 19 Affinity claims is relevant, and also that, since he worked closely with Jobs on drafting the 20 language of the press release, Witness B knew what “early” meant without Jobs’ telling him 21 directly, “Hey, this is what I mean by ‘early.’” 22 c. Witness C 23 Like the other two witnesses, Witness C, according to Affinity, took great pains to 24 “explain away” Mr. Jobs' statement, in a press release that says the following: 25 With the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store, music fans can start enjoying their music 26 purchases immediately on their iPod touch or iPhone with no computer required. . . If 27 users have only partially downloaded a song or album onto their iPod touch or iPhone their 28 computer will complete the download automatically. (Gaudet Decl. 13) C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 13 of 26 1 2 In the next paragraph, Jobs stated that "Innovative products like this keep iTunes at the forefront of the digital music revolution." (Id.). 3 Affinity interprets Witness C as disputing even brief, straightforward statements 4 made by Mr. Jobs about the App Store, for which Affinity argues the only remedy is to 5 examine the source of the statements, Jobs himself. In fact, after reading the transcript of 6 his testimony, this Court finds that Witness C is merely pointing out to Affinity that two 7 concepts were presented in two different sentences and that the statement about 8 innovative products refers to products encompassed in the “whole press release.” 9 Affinity goes on to point to what it considers to be another example: when discussing the launch of the App Store, Jobs was quoted as saying "[t]his is the biggest launch of my 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 career." (Gaudet Decl. 9). Affinity questioned Witness C about this statement in an 12 attempt to elicit a disagreement with the substance of what Jobs was saying. In fact, after 13 reviewing the testimony, this Court finds that the witness is disagreeing with Affinity’s 14 interpretation and paraphrasing of Jobs’ statement, not Jobs’ statement itself. 15 None of these three witnesses contradict Mr. Jobs’ statements, rather they merely 16 disagree with Affinity’s paraphrasing and interpretation of the statements and resist 17 Affinity’s attempts to manipulate and distort their own testimony. 18 19 4. Affinity has not shown that Mr. Jobs has unique, non-repetitive, firsthand knowledge of the remaining 11 statements. a. Affinity failed to take written discovery 20 21 Affinity argues that it would be entitled to take Mr. Jobs’ deposition regardless of the 22 content of the witnesses’s testimony because - by definition - Mr. Jobs has firsthand 23 knowledge about what he meant about his numerous statements on highly relevant, hotly 24 contested issues. Affinity claims that Apple's witnesses’ attempts to explain away and 25 water down Mr. Jobs' statements about these critical issues highlight its need for the 26 deposition. 27 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 14 of 26 1 Affinity cannot show that Mr. Jobs has unique, non-repetitive, firsthand knowledge of 2 relevant facts regarding the other 11 public statements or that Affinity has exhausted, 3 without success, less burdensome means to obtain the same information. 4 Affinity's sole support for its claim that Mr. Jobs has unique, non-repetitive, firsthand 5 knowledge is that he must know about the statements because he made them. Motion at 6 17. None of the cases cited by Affinity, however, support the broad proposition that the 7 requisite knowledge can be established by public statements alone. Even if Mr. Jobs has 8 personal knowledge of the years-old statements and even if they were relevant to this case 9 – and as shown below, they are not – Apple's other witnesses testified fully and 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 consistently with the 11 statements on which Affinity's Motion is based. Affinity also failed to serve any written discovery to obtain the information it seeks, 12 thus failing to exhaust less burdensome means to obtain it. Affinity concedes that it has not 13 served any written discovery on these 11 statements. Motion at 21, fn7. 14 Written discovery could have provided the information it now allegedly seeks. For 15 instance, Affinity could have served interrogatories seeking the reasons why Mr. Jobs 16 made the statements and the identification of Apple witness(es) with equal or better 17 personal knowledge of those statements. And if Affinity needed to confirm that Mr. Jobs 18 made any statements, requests for admissions are far less burdensome than the 19 deposition of Mr. Jobs. Affinity did not attempt to learn any of those facts through written 20 discovery, as the rule requires, See, e.g., Mulvey v. Chrysler Corp., 106 F.R.D. 364, 366 21 (D.R.I. 1985). 22 Affinity attempts to excuse its failure to pursue written discovery by claiming it 23 deposed Apple's lower-level witnesses near the close of fact discovery and, as a result, it 24 did not have time to serve interrogatories after those depositions were concluded. Motion 25 at 21, fn. 7. But most of the statements on which Affinity seeks to depose Mr. Jobs have 26 been known to Affinity for years. Affinity could have -- and should have under the apex 27 doctrine -- served interrogatories well before the close of fact discovery. Affinity's delay in 28 taking depositions does not excuse its failure to serve interrogatories. C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 15 of 26 1 When Affinity chose to pursue discovery regarding the public statements, it 2 consistently obtained the information to which it is entitled. As shown below, Affinity 3 received deposition testimony from other Apple witnesses on the public statements 4 (regardless of relevance) in each of the categories Affinity identifies. This deposition 5 testimony confirms that Mr. Jobs does not possess any unique or non-repetitive knowledge 6 on relevant topics that justifies his deposition. 7 b. Affinity received sufficient testimony regarding Mr. Jobs’ statements about the release of the BMW iPod Adapter (PS11-13). 8 9 The statements attributed to Mr. Jobs relating to the 2004 release of BMW's iPod Adapter (PS11-13) are not relevant to any claims at issue in this case. To support its claim 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 of relevance, Affinity points to Judge Clark's comment following a trial in the Eastern District 12 of Texas that the "buzz" surrounding the introduction of the BMW Adapter weighed in favor 13 of non-obviousness of Affinity's '833 Patent. Motion at 9-10, fn2-3. Apple was not a party 14 to that litigation and the '833 Patent is not at issue here. Unlike the patents at issue in the 15 case before Judge Clark, the patents at issue in this case do not claim an automobile 16 sound system. Any obviousness analysis must relate to the claims of the Patent-in-Suit. 17 Iron Grip Barbell Co., Inc. v. USA Sports, Inc., 392 F.3d 1317, 1324 (Fed. Cir. 2004). In 18 addition, to prove commercial success, which can be an example of secondary 19 considerations of non-obviousness, a "nexus must be established between the merits of 20 the claimed invention and evidence of commercial success before that evidence may 21 become relevant to the issue of obviousness." Id. Mr. Jobs' statements have nothing to do 22 with the narrow and specific claims of the patents at issue, but instead relate generally to a 23 product released by third party BMW. 24 Even if Mr. Jobs' statements were relevant, Affinity has already obtained complete 25 testimony from Witness A, who confirmed that Jobs does not have unique, non-repetitive 26 knowledge about the statements. Affinity alleges that Witness A attempted to discount 27 Jobs' statements regarding the innovative nature of BMW's iPod Adapter when he testified. 28 This Court finds that the witness’s statements are entirely consistent with those of Mr. Jobs, C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 16 of 26 1 who was quoted as saying that other, less elegant, solutions existed before the BMW iPod 2 Adapter: 3 They're pretty ugly and they all require you to take your hands off the steering wheel 4 to control them… 5 This adapter is really the first big step to marry an iPod to an automobile. 6 7 Ex. 27. This case is unlike Paice, LLC v. Toyota Motor Corp., C.A. No. 2:07-CV-180 DF, 8 Dkt. #117 (E.D. Tex. July 21, 2009), an unpublished decision from 5th Circuit in which the 9 plaintiff argued that Toyota witnesses took positions "directly counter to numerous statements made by [executive] Mr. Press." Witness A’s testimony is entirely consistent 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 with Mr. Jobs' statements regarding the BMW iPod Adapter. Affinity is unable to point to 12 any disavowals or contradictory statements by Witness A suggesting that Mr. Jobs has 13 unique, firsthand knowledge of the statements regarding the release of the BMW iPod 14 Adapter. 15 Attempting to manufacture a conflict where none exists, Affinity states in a footnote 16 that Witness A disagreed with a statement by Mr. Jobs that the iTunes Music Store 17 "revolutionized the way people legally buy music." Motion at 11-12, fn11. But Affinity does 18 not identify this statement as one of the 18 on which it seeks to depose Mr. Jobs. See 19 Appx. A. And Apple never suggested that Witness A would be an appropriate witness to 20 depose on statements regarding iTunes. Witness A’s responsibilities at Apple have 21 consistently related to Apple's portable products. Ex. 22 at 12:25-14:2. Regardless, 22 Witness A did not disagree with the statement; he simply testified that the iTunes and 23 iTunes Music Store personnel were "very hopeful that they could provide, again, a better 24 experience for our customers." Id. at 45:6-46:1. 25 c. Affinity received sufficient testimony regarding Mr. Jobs’ statement about Apple's settlement with Creative Labs (PS18). 26 Affinity deposed Witness B, regarding a lone public statement about Apple's 2006 27 settlement with Creative Labs: "Creative is very fortunate to have been granted this early 28 patent." Affinity is incorrect that the settlement with Creative is relevant to this litigation, C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 17 of 26 1 and it is wrong that Witness B’s testimony somehow justifies Affinity taking Mr. Jobs’ 2 deposition. 3 Controlling Federal Circuit precedent confirms that the Creative settlement is not 860, 869 (Fed. Cir. 2010). In ResQNet.com, the court vacated a damages award where 6 the plaintiff's expert relied on prior licenses, some of which had no discernible link to the 7 claimed invention at issue in the dispute between ResQNet.com and Lansa. Id. at 870. 8 Affinity has similarly failed to allege a link between the claims of the patents in this litigation 9 and any rights Apple obtained under the Creative Labs settlement. The fact that a Creative 10 Labs patent had a priority date after Affinity's does not supply that link because, as Witness 11 For the Northern District of California relevant to the damages calculus in this case. ResQNet.com, Inc. v. Lansa, Inc., 594 F.3d 5 United States District Court 4 B explained, the priority dates say nothing about their respective subject matter. Ex. 23 at 12 107:16-111:4. Moreover, as confirmed by Witness B during his deposition, the Creative 13 Labs settlement is not a simple license: it created a bi-lateral business relationship that 14 resolved five lawsuits between Apple and Creative Labs (significant competitors) 15 and-contrary to Affinity's suggestion-involved literally hundreds of patents. Ex. 23 at 16 64:14-65:4, 67:16-72:3. Notably, even Affinity's own damages expert, Walter Bratic, stated 17 in his April 1, 2011 expert report that he did not rely on the Creative Labs settlement in 18 forming his opinions because he did not find it relevant. Ex. 28, Expert Report of Walter 19 Bratic at 163-66. 20 Regardless, Witness B provided sufficient testimony about the Creative Labs 21 settlement. He explained, in detail, that the settlement granted Apple, among other things, 22 a broad portfolio license. Ex. 23 at 64:18-65:4. 23 This case thus differs from the situation in Kennedy v. Jackson Nat'l Life Ins. Co., 24 2010 U.S. Dist LEXIS 47866, at *4-5, *7-8 (N.D. Cal., Apr. 22, 2010), a case cited by 25 Affinity, where a limited deposition of the CEO was permitted because other witnesses 26 identified the CEO as having unique knowledge. Witness B substantively answered all of 27 Affinity's questions, and he never indicated that Mr. Jobs had unique knowledge that this 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 18 of 26 1 witness could not provide. The fact that Witness B may not have provided the answers that 2 Affinity wanted is not a basis to depose Mr. Jobs. As this Court noted in Doble: 3 4 Although Plaintiffs have perhaps not obtained the answers they wanted from lower level employees, that failure does not automatically justify their reaching higher, without the requisite showing of the higher-level official's unique personal knowledge. 5 Doble v. Mega Life and Health Ins. Co., 2010 WL 1998904 at *4 (N.D.Cal., 2010). 6 7 d. Affinity received sufficient testimony regarding Mr. Jobs' statement about iTunes and iTunes WiFi Music Store (PS6, 15). 8 about the innovative nature of iTunes and the iTunes WiFi Music Store is relevant to this 11 For the Northern District of California Affinity in its Motion does not even try to explain how Mr. Jobs' general statement 10 United States District Court 9 case. None of the Patents-in-Suit broadly covers these applications. Instead, the asserted 12 claims – even as broadly construed by Affinity – address specific aspects of cellular phones 13 that perform particularized functions, such as streaming audio to cellular devices or 14 previewing songs on the iTunes Store. Ex. 9 at A5-6, A11-12, A14-16, A20-28. 15 Affinity's Motion also fails to explain how other witnesses’ testimony about these 16 public statements justifies Mr. Jobs' deposition. Although it argues that Witness C "took 17 great pains to explain away Mr. Jobs' statement," Affinity does not identify any disavowal or 18 contradictory testimony by Witness C. For instance, Affinity questioned Witness C about a 19 press release regarding, among other things, the iTunes WiFi Music Store and a custom 20 ringtone maker, in which Mr. Jobs stated that "Innovative products like this keep iTunes at 21 the forefront of the digital music revolution." Ex. 24 at 124:11-127:20. Witness C never 22 testified that he disagreed with Mr. Jobs' statement. Id. Rather, he correctly noted that 23 because "innovative products" is plural, it likely refers to the Wi-Fi Music Store as well as to 24 other products and features also mentioned in the press release, such as custom ring 25 tones and the added capabilities for watching movies and TV shows. Id. at 124:17-127:20. 26 Even if Witness C’s testimony was not sufficient (which it is), Affinity neglects to mention 27 that it also asked another witness the specific question about the WiFi Music Store and 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 19 of 26 1 received a sufficient response, as this Court discerned from its reading of the witness’s 2 testimony. 3 And although Affinity contends it needs to depose Mr. Jobs about his statement 4 regarding iTunes (Appx. A; PS15), Affinity's Motion fails to mention that this same witness 5 agreed with Mr. Jobs' statement that the mobile phone market was an opportunity to get 6 iTunes in the hands of music lovers. Ex. 25 at 176:22-177:15. 7 e. Affinity received sufficient testimony regarding Mr. Jobs’ statements about the App Store (PS1, 2, 4). 8 Affinity also accuses Witness C of (1) downplaying Mr. Jobs’ statement (PS1) that 9 the App Store was a "grand slam" and (2) disputing Mr. Jobs’ "straightforward" comment (PS2) that the App Store "is the biggest launch of my career." Motion at 16. Affinity's 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 selective quotation from the witness’s deposition misleadingly obscures that his testimony 12 fully answered Affinity's questions and was completely consistent with Mr. Jobs’ 13 statements. Affinity does not explain how the testimony about Mr. Jobs’ statement is 14 deficient, let alone why it justifies Affinity taking Mr. Jobs’ deposition. Affinity also fails to 15 mention that when asked why Mr. Jobs said the App Store was a "grand slam," another 16 Apple witness also provided testimony consistent with Mr. Jobs’ statement, as confirmed by 17 this Court’s reading of that testimony. 18 And far from disputing Mr. Jobs’ comment (PS2) that the App Store was the biggest 19 launch of Mr. Jobs’ career, the witness simply corrected Affinity's mischaracterization and 20 clarified that Mr. Jobs said, "[t]his is the biggest launch of my career" and not, "The App 21 Store is the biggest launch of my career." 22 Affinity also argues that a deposition of Mr. Jobs is necessary because the witness 23 suggested that the quote might not be accurate. Motion at 16, fn 5. But if Affinity ever had 24 any doubt about the accuracy of any of Mr. Jobs’ statements, it could have propounded 25 requests for admissions. Affinity failed to exercise this less intrusive method of discovery. 26 Despite claiming that Mr. Jobs statement is solely relevant to the damages issue of whether 27 the App Store drives sales of the iPhone, Affinity did not ask Apple's Rule 30(b)(6) witness 28 on financial topics a single question about Mr. Jobs’ statements. C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 20 of 26 1 Affinity also argues that it needs to depose Mr. Jobs about a statement (PS4) made 2 during Apple's October 2008 earnings call regarding the App Store. Motion at 6. Witness 3 C, however, already answered Affinity's question about the statement, and furthermore, 4 Affinity's Motion fails to identify any deficiency in the witness’s testimony about the 5 statement, let alone a disavowal or contradiction of Mr. Jobs’ statement. 6 f. Affinity received sufficient testimony regarding Apple's litigation against HTC (PS16-17). 7 Affinity does not attempt to show that other discovery has been insufficient on Mr. 8 Jobs’ two statements regarding Apple's litigation against HTC, although Affinity maintains 9 its request to depose Mr. Jobs on those statements. Motion at 19. Nor does Affinity offer any explanation of how such statements might be relevant to this litigation. These 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 statements were made when Apple filed actions on March 2, 2010 in the U.S. International 12 Trade Commission and in Delaware against cell phone competitor HTC for infringing a total 13 of 20 Apple patents. If a general statement about patent rights could be used as the basis 14 to depose a CEO, the apex rule would be meaningless with respect to technology 15 companies, whose executives often make statements about the importance of protecting 16 their intellectual property. 17 Witness B’s testimony differs dramatically from the testimony presented in Paice, in 18 which Toyota witnesses denied any involvement in crafting the public statements or press 19 releases of the COO and took positions that directly contradicted the statements by their 20 COO. The situation is also different than the one in First United Methodist Church of San 21 Jose v. Atlantic Mutual Ins. Co., 1995 WL 566026, at *2-3 (N.D. Cal., Sept 19, 1995). In 22 First United Methodist, the court permitted the deposition of Atlantic Mutual's president 23 based on the president's personal knowledge of the plaintiff's insurance program and 24 personal involvement in the decision to stop insuring plaintiffs. In this case, however, there 25 is no suggestion that Mr. Jobs has any knowledge of Affinity, its owners or the 26 Patents-In-Suit. 27 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 21 of 26 1 Most importantly, Affinity's Motion fails to identify any additional information it needs 2 from Mr. Jobs that it has not already learned from the depositions of Apple witnesses, or 3 that it could have learned through written discovery. 4 IV. Analysis 5 “A party seeking to prevent a deposition carries a heavy burden to show why 6 discovery should be denied.” Websidestory, Inc. v. Netratings, Inc., C06cv408, 2007 WL 7 1120567 *2 (S.D.Cal., Apr.6, 2007). When a party seeks the deposition of a high-level 8 executive (a so-called “apex” deposition), the court may exercise its discretion under the 9 federal rules to limit discovery. See id.; Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1)-(b)(2). In determining whether to allow an apex deposition, courts consider (1) whether the deponent has unique 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 first-hand, non-repetitive knowledge of facts at issue in the case and (2) whether the party 12 seeking the deposition has exhausted other less intrusive discovery methods. 13 Websidestory, Inc., 2007 WL 1120567 at *2. Absent extraordinary circumstances, it is very 14 unusual for a court to prohibit the taking of a deposition. Id. Additionally, “when a witness 15 has personal knowledge of facts relevant to the lawsuit, even a corporate president or CEO 16 is subject to deposition.” Id. A claimed lack of knowledge, by itself, is insufficient to preclude 17 a deposition. Id. “Moreover, the fact that the apex witness has a busy schedule is simply 18 not a basis for foreclosing otherwise proper discovery.” Id. 19 That said, “Virtually every court that has addressed deposition notices directed at an 20 official at the highest level or ‘apex’ of corporate management has observed that such 21 discovery creates a tremendous potential for abuse or harassment.” Celerity, Inc. v. Ultra 22 Clean Holding, Inc., No. C05-04374 MMC (JL), 2007 WL 205067 *3 (N.D.Cal., Jan.25, 23 2007). 24 For that reason, parties seeking to depose a high ranking corporate officer must first 25 establish that the executive (1) has unique, non-repetitive, firsthand knowledge of the facts 26 at issue in the case, and (2) that other less intrusive means of discovery, such as 27 interrogatories and depositions of other employees, have been exhausted without success. 28 Salter v. Upjohn Co., 593 F.2d 649, 651 (5th Cir. 1979). “Where a high-level decision C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 22 of 26 1 maker ‘removed from the daily subjects of the litigation’ has no unique personal knowledge 2 of the facts at issue, a deposition of the official is improper.” Id. (quoting Baine v. General 3 Motors Corp., 141 F.R.D. 332, 334 (M.D.Ala.1991)). “This is especially so where the 4 information sought in the deposition can be obtained through less intrusive discovery 5 methods (such as interrogatories) or from depositions of lower-level employees with more 6 direct knowledge of the facts at issue.” Id. 7 Affinity misstates the standard for deposing a CEO, claiming it is sufficient to show from the San Jose division of this district, in the Apple iPod iTunes Antitrust Litigation, C.A. 10 No. C05-00037 JW (HRL), D.I. 543 (N.D.Cal. Mar. 21, 2011). However, Magistrate Judge 11 For the Northern District of California that Mr. Jobs has “firsthand knowledge of relevant information.” Affinity relies on a decision 9 United States District Court 8 Howard R. Lloyd designated the decision as “Not for Citation,” under Civil Local Rule 3- 12 4(e). 13 14 15 16 Civil Local Rule 3-4(e), Prohibition of Citation to Uncertified Opinion or Order provides: Any order or opinion that is designated: “NOT FOR CITATION,” pursuant to Civil L.R. 7-14 or pursuant to a similar rule of any other issuing court, may not be cited to this Court, either in written submissions or oral argument, except when relevant under the doctrines of law of the case, res judicata or collateral estoppel. 17 Affinity fails to indicate how its citation falls into any of the designated exceptions. 18 Although Jobs’ deposition was at issue in the Apple iTunes Antitrust Litigation, that is not 19 enough to make the decision to permit a limited deposition of Mr. Jobs in that case does 20 not amount to law of the case, res judicata, or collateral estoppel in this case. Accordingly, 21 the Court finds that Affinity improperly cited this decision, which doesn’t really help its 22 cause anyway. Judge Lloyd expressly rejected the same theory which Affinity proffers in 23 this case: that a CEO’s firsthand knowledge of his own public statements justifies the 24 CEO’s deposition. 25 Here, Affinity cannot meet its burden to show that Mr. Jobs has “unique” and 26 “non-repetitive” knowledge regarding any relevant topic that is not available through less 27 burdensome means. Affinity does not even try to contend that Mr. Jobs has any knowledge 28 of Affinity, its patents, the inventors of those patents, or infringement by Apple products. C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 23 of 26 patents or lawsuits, Affinity asks the Court to conclude that Mr. Jobs has relevant firsthand 3 knowledge that entitles Affinity to depose him. But Apple has never denied that Mr. Jobs 4 made the statements attributed to him in Apple press releases or presentations. And Apple 5 has produced witnesses with firsthand knowledge of the statements Affinity has identified 6 and the surrounding circumstances. Nor has Affinity even claimed that Jobs’ statements 7 run counter to the statements of Apple’s witnesses, as discussed in the Paice case, on 8 which Affinity relies to justify Jobs’ deposition. Paice, LLC v. Toyota Motor Corp., C.A. 9 No.2:07-CV-180 DF (E.D.Tex. Sept. 6, 2006) (Ex. 42 to Declaration of Matthew Gaudet). 10 In the course of its questioning Affinity tried to maneuver the witnesses into 11 For the Northern District of California Instead, based only on Mr. Jobs’ public statements regarding Apple products or other 2 United States District Court 1 contradicting Jobs’ statements, but they didn’t do it. What the witnesses may have done is 12 disagree with Affinity’s interpretation or paraphrasing of Jobs’ statements. That does not 13 amount to justification for deposing Jobs and then arguing with him over what he meant, 14 the way Affinity’s counsel did with the Apple witnesses. 15 The mere fact that Jobs made public statements, even on issues that Affinity 16 considers relevant to its claims, are insufficient to justify his deposition. Courts have 17 repeatedly denied apex depositions even on a showing that the executive made public 18 statements on relevant issues. Mulvey, id., 106 F.R.D. at 366 (rejecting plaintiffs’ request to 19 depose Lee Iacocca based on public statements he made relevant to Chrysler’s liability, 20 and instead requiring plaintiffs to submit written interrogatories in the first instance); Salter, 21 593 F.2d at 651 (5th Cir. 1979) (upholding district court’s decision to vacate the deposition 22 date of Upjohn’s president, Dr. William Hubbard, where Dr. Hubbard had even given 23 testimony before the United States Senate concerning the testing, marketing and use of the 24 drug on which the plaintiff’s claim was based); Thomas v. IBM, 48 F.3d 478, 483 (10th Cir. 25 1995) (granting a protective order barring the deposition of IBM chairman John Akers even 26 though he allegedly “authored an IBM policy designed to discriminate against older 27 employees.”); see also Celerity, Inc., 2007 WL 205067, at *5 (refusing to permit deposition 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 24 of 26 1 to go forward based on plaintiffs’ claims that executives “participated” in relevant events 2 where knowledge was not unique to those executives). 3 Apple also contends that Mr. Jobs’ deposition should not be allowed because Affinity grounds that Apple forced Affinity to depose multiple “substitute witnesses” as a predicate 6 to deposing Mr. Jobs, and now that Affinity has done so, Apple argues that “time is up.” 7 Affinity denies that it exceeded its deposition time limits, and even if it did, then additional 8 time would be appropriate specifically for this deposition. (Footnote 12 to Affinity’s Reply 9 brief restates the argument it previously made before this Court). This Court expressly 10 found that it could not render a decision on the merits of Apple’s arguments relating to 11 For the Northern District of California has used all of its allotted deposition time. (Opp. p.24). Affinity opposes this contention on 5 United States District Court 4 Affinity’s use of deposition hours, which Affinity disputed. (D.I. 134 at p.2 (“. . . [T]his 12 dispute exceeds the scope of the referral to this Court.”)). The Court noted that “[t]he 13 parties’ appropriate course of action is to seek a decision by Judge Wilken whether the 14 deposition cap has been exceeded. . . .” (Id.). Apple never sought a decision from Judge 15 Wilken because the parties entered into a stipulation allowing Affinity to conduct additional 16 depositions. (D.I. 139). Thus, a decision on whether Affinity exceeded its allotted deposition 17 hours has not been made. 18 Finally, Affinity argues that Apple incorrectly alleges that Affinity deposed Creative. 19 (Opp. p.25). In fact, Affinity claims it was Apple who scheduled the Creative Deposition. 20 (Gaudet Decl. II ¶8). Affinity simply attended Apple’s deposition and cross-examined the 21 witness. 22 V. 23 In this case, Affinity fails to show that Steve Jobs has unique and personal Conclusion and Order 24 knowledge of facts relevant to this litigation, which cannot be obtained through less 25 intrusive discovery, for example, interrogatories, requests for admissions, or other 26 depositions. Accordingly, Affinity’s motion to compel the deposition of Steve Jobs is denied 27 and Apple’s motion for protective order is granted. 28 IT IS SO ORDERED. C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 25 of 26 1 DATED: May 9, 2011 2 __________________________________ JAMES LARSON United States Magistrate Judge 3 4 5 6 G:\JLALL\CASES\CIV-REF\09-4436\Order-short re 148.wpd 7 8 9 11 For the Northern District of California United States District Court 10 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 C-09-4436 DISCOVERY ORDER Page 26 of 26

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