Apple Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. et al
Filing
1429
OPPOSITION to ( 1420 MOTION TO ENFORCE COURT ORDERS REGARDING SONY DESIGNS ) filed by Samsung Electronics America, Inc.(a New York corporation), Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Samsung Telecommunications America, LLC(a Delaware limited liability company). (Attachments: # 1 Declaration of Curran M. Walker, # 2 Exhibit 1, # 3 Exhibit 2, # 4 Exhibit 3, # 5 Exhibit 4, # 6 Exhibit 5, # 7 Exhibit 6, # 8 Exhibit 7, # 9 Exhibit 8, # 10 Exhibit 9, # 11 Exhibit 10, # 12 Exhibit 11, # 13 Exhibit 12, # 14 Exhibit 13)(Maroulis, Victoria) (Filed on 7/28/2012) Modified text on 7/30/2012 (dhm, COURT STAFF).
EXHIBIT 3
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 1
1
2
3
4
5
UNITED STATES INTERNATIONAL TRADE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C.
In the Matter of
)
)
CERTAIN ELECTRONIC DIGITAL )
Inv. No. 337-TA-796
MEDIA DEVICES AND
)
COMPONENTS THEREOF
)
)
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
SAN JOSE DIVISION
APPLE INC., a California
) CIVIL NO. 11-CV-01846-LHK
corporation,
)
)
Plaintiff,
)
)
vs.
)
)
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO.,
)
LTD., a Korean business
)
entity; SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS )
AMERICA, INC., a New York
)
corporation; and SAMSUNG
)
TELECOMMUNICATIONS AMERICA, )
LLC, a Delaware limited
)
liability company,
)
)
Defendants.
)
)
20
21
22
23
24
25
CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION
HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF SHIN NISHIBORI
MAY 2, 2012
HONOLULU, HAWAII
TSG JOb # 49110
Reporter: ADRIANNE IGE KURASAKI
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 6
1
AYANO NISHIMURA,
2
called as the official interpreter for
10:04AM
10:04AM
3
the witness, being first duly sworn to interpret
10:04AM
4
the following testimony from English to
10:04AM
5
Japanese and from Japanese to English.
10:04AM
6
SADAAKI MATSUTANI,
called as a check interpreter for
7
10:04AM
10:04AM
8
the witness, being first duly sworn to check
10:04AM
9
the following testimony from English to
10:04AM
Japanese and from Japanese to English.
10:04AM
10
11
SHIN NISHIBORI,
12
called as a witness on behalf of
10:05AM
10:05AM
13
Defendants and Counterclaim Plaintiffs,
10:05AM
14
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., Samsung
10:05AM
15
Electronics America, Inc., and Samsung
10:05AM
16
Telecommunications, LLC, being first duly
10:05AM
17
sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth, and
10:05AM
18
nothing but the truth, was examined and
10:05AM
19
testified as follows:
10:05AM
20
21
EXAMINATION
10:05AM
BY MR. ZELLER:
10:05AM
22
Q
Good morning.
10:05AM
23
A
Good morning.
10:05AM
24
Q
If you could please tell us your full
10:05AM
25
name for the record.
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
10:05AM
877-702-9580
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 14
1
2
3
4
Q
Was that the end of your answer or was
there more you were going to add?
A
10:20AM
Your question was, "Did you design the
first iPhone?"
5
10:20AM
10:20AM
10:20AM
And my answer will be:
I was involved
10:20AM
6
in the project of making the first iPhone.
10:20AM
7
However, I did not design the actual iPhone that
10:20AM
8
came out.
10:20AM
9
And also, I'd like to add that I was not
10:21AM
10
in the -- I didn't belong to the project team.
10:21AM
11
However, I participated in a meeting or
10:21AM
12
brainstorming that would cast out the ideas and
10:21AM
13
talk about it.
10:21AM
I was there.
14
Q
What do you mean by "the project team"?
10:21AM
15
A
In order to develop a project, there's a
10:21AM
16
leader and then there's some people underneath
10:22AM
17
or something like that, and to create some type
10:22AM
18
of group to do the development.
10:22AM
19
be the core group of the development.
20
like to say that I was not in that group.
21
THE CHECK INTERPRETER:
And that will
So I'd
Proposed
10:22AM
10:22AM
10:22AM
22
correction:
23
is a leader and there are several team --
10:22AM
24
project team members, depending on the project.
10:22AM
25
I don't know how many people would be in the
10:22AM
"In developing the product, there
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
10:22AM
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 15
1
team.
2
the main group to work on this.
3
manner, the product development is conducted.
10:22AM
4
What I'm saying is I was not in that group."
10:22AM
5
BY MR. ZELLER:
10:22AM
6
Q
However, these people became -- become
And in such a
Were you one person who contributed to
10:22AM
10:22AM
10:22AM
7
the look of the hardware or the exterior of the
10:22AM
8
first iPhone?
10:23AM
9
A
I do not know.
10:23AM
10
Q
Were you one of the Apple designers who
10:23AM
11
contributed to the look of the hardware or the
10:23AM
12
exterior of any generation of iPhone?
10:23AM
13
MS. TAYLOR:
15
16
10:23AM
(Whereupon, the Interpreter translates.)
14
Go ahead.
10:23AM
MS. TAYLOR:
Objection.
Vague and
ambiguous.
17
10:24AM
10:24AM
INTERPRETED ANSWER:
So there's an
10:24AM
18
objection and...
10:24AM
19
BY MR. ZELLER:
10:24AM
20
Q
You should answer the question.
10:24AM
21
A
I do not know.
10:24AM
22
Q
Is there any generation of iPhone that
10:24AM
23
you can say you were an Apple designer who
10:24AM
24
contributed to the look of?
10:24AM
25
(The Check Interpreter speaks in Japanese.)
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
10:25AM
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 16
1
2
MS. TAYLOR:
Wait.
Objection.
Vague
and ambiguous.
3
10:25AM
10:25AM
INTERPRETED ANSWER:
It was not the
10:25AM
4
product that I was leading, so I do not have the
10:25AM
5
knowledge or -- or I don't understand how my
10:25AM
6
design contributed to the final project.
10:25AM
7
However, in the course of designing the
10:26AM
8
project, I made the model that changed the flow
10:26AM
9
of direction that -- which triggered to change
10:26AM
10
the flow.
So, although it was not a final
10:26AM
11
project, I think that I can say that I was
10:26AM
12
involved in the project.
10:26AM
13
THE CHECK INTERPRETER:
The lead
10:26AM
14
interpreter said "project" or "final project"
10:26AM
15
twice.
10:26AM
16
THE INTERPRETER:
17
product.
18
Final -- final
Final product.
19
I'm sorry, let me make the correction.
10:26AM
10:26AM
10:26AM
THE CHECK INTERPRETER:
Proposed
10:26AM
20
correction:
There were two instances of that.
10:26AM
21
It should be incorporated in -- the correction
10:27AM
22
should be made for the whole answer.
10:27AM
23
"In the course of coming up with the
10:27AM
24
product, I did make a model or models that --
10:27AM
25
that changed the -- that triggered the change in
10:27AM
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 17
1
the course.
2
However, I did -- I can say I did affect the
10:27AM
3
flow of the project as a result."
10:27AM
4
BY MR. ZELLER:
10:27AM
5
6
7
Q
So it was not in the final product.
And the project that you're referring to
here is the first iPhone project?
A
So when you said the word "project,"
10:27AM
10:27AM
10:27AM
10:27AM
8
that means that the project that I had my
10:28AM
9
influence on; correct?
10:28AM
10
Q
Correct.
10:28AM
11
A
That is the first iPhone.
10:28AM
MR. ZELLER:
10:28AM
12
Let's please mark as
13
Exhibit 1 a series of images, CAD images along
10:28AM
14
with file path information produced by Apple.
10:28AM
15
And, for the record, this was previously
10:28AM
16
identified as Exhibit 1172.
10:28AM
17
18
19
20
(Exhibit No. 1 marked for identification.)
BY MR. ZELLER:
Q
10:28AM
10:29AM
Do you recognize the images that are
shown here on Exhibit 1?
10:29AM
10:29AM
21
A
Yes.
10:29AM
22
Q
And is this a representation of a design
10:29AM
23
that became a model that you were referring to
10:29AM
24
that changed the flow or course of the first
10:29AM
25
iPhone project?
10:29AM
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 36
1
just don't have a clear memory one way or
11:22AM
2
another whether anyone else was on the e-mail?
11:22AM
3
A
Yes.
But one thing I'd like to point
11:22AM
4
out is that nobody was on this project --
11:22AM
5
rather, it's not a project.
11:22AM
6
Sony story.
7
It is a Sony thing.
11:23AM
Nobody else was involved.
So I just
11:23AM
8
assumed that nobody else is involved or heard
11:23AM
9
anything or involved in the e-mail.
11:23AM
But I
10
didn't really -- I do not really see the actual
11:23AM
11
e-mail myself, so I don't -- I can't answer
11:23AM
12
hundred percent.
11:23AM
13
Q
Did you actually type up the e-mail to
11:23AM
14
Mr. Ive and send it to him or did someone else
11:23AM
15
do that?
11:23AM
16
A
Myself.
17
Q
Do you recall about how much time passed
I did it myself.
11:23AM
11:23AM
18
between the time you got the general direction
11:23AM
19
from Mr. Ive to do this work and then when you
11:23AM
20
came up with these CAD images that are
11:23AM
21
Exhibits 1 and 2?
11:23AM
22
A
Yes.
Yes, from the idea to the
11:24AM
23
completion of the sketch, it probably took
11:24AM
24
between one week to ten days.
11:24AM
25
than ten days.
I would say less
11:24AM
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 37
1
And the reason is that -- that I was
11:25AM
2
trying to accelerate the process was that
11:25AM
3
Jonathan Ive was on business trip and I wanted
11:25AM
4
to finish creating the model before he returns.
11:25AM
5
So I was sending him e-mails and then I -- and
11:25AM
6
then I got his confirmations.
11:25AM
7
very short turnaround time, I sent the model to
11:26AM
8
the outsourcing company to make it and then
11:26AM
9
completed it.
11:26AM
10
Q
And then from the
At the time when Mr. Ive gave you the
11:26AM
11
general direction, were you familiar with Sony
11:26AM
12
designs?
11:26AM
13
A
Part of the reason is that I worked for
11:27AM
14
Panasonic for nine years.
15
my employment, for four and a half years, I was
11:27AM
16
involved in the audio division.
11:27AM
17
me, I have a respect for Sony products.
18
had some image in my head about what Sony
11:28AM
19
products are; so, for example, switches or
11:28AM
20
things like that that's specific to Sony.
11:28AM
21
And my latter half of
And a part of
And I
So -- but roughly, what I included in
11:27AM
11:27AM
11:28AM
22
this drawing is what if -- what would Sony would
11:28AM
23
do -- what would Sony do.
11:28AM
24
shuttle or the buttons and layout and how the
11:28AM
25
brand is placed on and so forth.
11:28AM
For example, the jog
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 38
1
(The Check Interpreter speaks in Japanese.)
2
"So based on my
11:28AM
3
recollection, I put in what Sony would do in my
11:29AM
4
image that I had in mind.
11:29AM
5
details."
11:29AM
6
BY MR. ZELLER:
11:29AM
7
8
THE CHECK INTERPRETER:
11:28AM
Q
I put in the
When you worked for Panasonic, was that
in Japan?
11:29AM
11:29AM
9
A
Yes.
11:29AM
10
Q
And what years did you work for
11:29AM
11
Panasonic?
11:29AM
12
A
From April 1989 to March 1998.
11:29AM
13
Q
And then after that, did you work for
11:29AM
14
15
16
17
other companies as a designer?
A
11:29AM
No, as a freelance designer.
I launched
my own company.
Q
11:30AM
11:30AM
So then you were a freelance designer
11:30AM
18
with your own company starting from March of
11:30AM
19
1998?
11:30AM
20
A
No.
For one year, this is my personal
11:30AM
21
matters.
22
Panasonic is that -- because I wanted to do
11:30AM
23
design or work as a designer.
So for one year,
11:31AM
24
I did not do anything, just anything to do with
11:31AM
25
design.
11:31AM
But the reason I resigned from
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
11:30AM
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 58
1
WITNESS CERTIFICATE
2
3
I, SHIN NISHIBORI, do hereby certify
4
that I have read the foregoing pages, inclusive,
5
and corrections, if any, were noted by me; and
6
that same is now a true and correct transcript
7
of my testimony.
8
Dated ______________________________________
9
______________________________________
SHIN NISHIBORI
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
Signed before me this _________
day of __________________________, 20_______.
17
18
19
____________________________________________
20
21
22
Certain Electronic Digital Media Devices, Case 337-TA-796/
Apple Inc. v Samsung Electronics Company, Ltd., et al.,
23
Civil No. 11-CV-01846
Videotaped Deposition of SHIN NISHIBORI
24
Taken on May 2, 2012
25
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 59
1
CERTIFICATE
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
I, ADRIANNE IGE KURASAKI, C.S.R., in and for the
State of Hawaii, do hereby certify:
That on Wednesday, May 2, 2012, at 10:03 a.m.,
appeared before me SHIN NISHIBORI, the witness whose
testimony is contained herein; that, prior to being
examined, the witness was by me duly sworn or affirmed;
that the proceedings were taken down by me in computerized
machine shorthand and were thereafter reduced to print
under my supervision; that the foregoing represents, to
the best of my ability, a true and correct transcript of
the proceedings had in the foregoing matter.
9
10
I further certify that I am not counsel for any of
the parties hereto, nor in any way interested in the
outcome of the cause named in the caption.
11
12
13
This 57-page Deposition of SHIN NISHIBORI, dated
May 2, 2012, was subscribed and sworn to before me this
2nd day of May, 2012, in the First Circuit of the State of
Hawaii, by Adrianne Ige Kurasaki.
14
15
16
17
18
______________________________________
Adrianne Ige Kurasaki, CSR 388
State of Hawaii
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
Confidential Business Information
Highly Confidential Attorney's Eyes Only
Page 60
1
NAME OF CASE:
2
DATE OF DEPOSITION:
3
NAME OF WITNESS:
4
Reason Codes:
5
1.
To clarify the record.
6
2.
To conform to the facts.
7
3.
To correct transcription errors.
8
Page ______ Line ______ Reason ______
9
From _____________________ to _____________________
10
Page ______ Line ______ Reason ______
11
From _____________________ to _____________________
12
Page ______ Line ______ Reason ______
13
From _____________________ to _____________________
14
Page ______ Line ______ Reason ______
15
From _____________________ to _____________________
16
Page ______ Line ______ Reason ______
17
From _____________________ to _____________________
18
Page ______ Line ______ Reason ______
19
From _____________________ to _____________________
20
Page ______ Line ______ Reason ______
21
From _____________________ to _____________________
22
Page ______ Line ______ Reason ______
23
From _____________________ to _____________________
24
25
________________________
TSG Reporting - Worldwide
877-702-9580
Disclaimer: Justia Dockets & Filings provides public litigation records from the federal appellate and district courts. These filings and docket sheets should not be considered findings of fact or liability, nor do they necessarily reflect the view of Justia.
Why Is My Information Online?