In Re FACEBOOK INTERNET TRACKING LITIGATION

Filing 48

Transcript of Proceedings held on 06/29/2012, before Judge Davila. Court Reporter/Transcriber Irene L. Rodriguez, Telephone number (408)947-8160. Per General Order No. 59 and Judicial Conference policy, this transcript may be viewed only at the Clerks Office public terminal or may be purchased through the Court Reporter/Transcriber until the deadline for the Release of Transcript Restriction.After that date it may be obtained through PACER. Any Notice of Intent to Request Redaction, if required, is due no later than 5 business days from date of this filing. Redaction Request due 8/10/2012. Redacted Transcript Deadline set for 8/20/2012. Release of Transcript Restriction set for 10/18/2012. (Rodriguez, Irene) (Filed on 7/20/2012)

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1 01:54PM 1 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 3 SAN JOSE DIVISION 4 5 IN RE: 6 INTERNET TRACKING 7 LITIGATION. 8 _______________________ FACEBOOK ) ) ) ) ) ) ) C-12-2314-EJD JUNE 29, 2012 PAGES 1 - 16 9 10 11 THE PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD BEFORE THE HONORABLE UNITED STATES DISTRICT 12 JUDGE EDWARD J. DAVILA 13 A P P E A R A N C E S: 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 FOR THE PLAINTIFFS: KIESEL, BOUCHER & LARSON BY: PAUL R. KIESEL 8648 WILSHIRE BOULEVARD BEVERLY HILLS, CALIFORNIA 90211 BARTIMUS, FRICKELTON, ROBERTSON & GORNY BY: THOMAS FRICKELTON 11150 OVERBROOK ROAD SUITE 200 LEAWOOD, KANSAS 66211 (APPEARANCES CONTINUED ON THE NEXT PAGE.) 24 25 OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER: IRENE RODRIGUEZ, CSR, CRR CERTIFICATE NUMBER 8074 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S: (CONT'D) 2 3 FOR THE PLAINTIFFS: 4 5 6 7 BERGMANIS LAW FIRM BY: ANDREW S. LYSKOWSKI 380 W. U.S. HIGHWAY 54 SUITE 201 P.O. BOX 229 CAMDENTON, MISSOURI 65020 MURPHY, FALCON,KUYKENDALL, RAVENELL & MURPHY BY: WILLIAM H. MURPHY, JR. ONE SOUTH STREET 23RD FLOOR BALTIMORE, MARYLAND 21202 8 9 10 11 STEWARTS LAW US LLP BY: DAVID A. STRAITE 535 FIFTH AVENUE 4TH FLOOR NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10017 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 FOR DEFENDANT FACEBOOK: COOLEY, GODWARD & KRONISH BY: MATTHEW D. BROWN 101 CALIFORNIA STREET 5TH FLOOR SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA 94111 3 1 SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA 2 P R O C E E E D I N G S 3 4 5 JUNE 30, 2012 (WHEREUPON, COURT CONVENED AND THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD:) 01:48PM 6 THE CLERK: 01:48PM 7 01:48PM 8 ON FOR CASE MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE. 02:08PM 9 COUNSEL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE 02:08PM 10 02:08PM 11 02:08PM 12 02:08PM 13 THE COURT: 02:08PM 14 MR. FRICKLETON: 02:08PM 15 02:08PM 16 THE COURT: 02:08PM 17 MR. STRAITE: 02:08PM 18 02:08PM 19 THE COURT: 02:08PM 20 MR. MURPHY: 02:08PM 21 02:08PM 22 THE COURT: 02:08PM 23 MR. KIESEL: 02:08PM 24 02:08PM 25 IN RE: CALLING MDL ACTION 12-2314, FACEBOOK INTERNET TRACKING LITIGATION. YOUR APPEARANCES. MR. BROWN: FACEBOOK. MATTHEW BROWN FOR DEFENDANT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. JAMES FRICKLETON FOR THE PLAINTIFFS. PLAINTIFFS. GOOD AFTERNOON. DAVID STRAITE FOR THE GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR. WILLIAM MURPHY FOR THE PLAINTIFFS. AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. AND, YOUR HONOR, GOOD PAUL KIESEL FOR THE PLAINTIFFS AS WELL. THE COURT: THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. 4 02:08PM 1 MR. KIESEL: AND TO YOU, YOUR HONOR. 02:08PM 2 THE COURT: 02:08PM 3 THE COURTROOM THAN THE LAST TIME. 02:08PM 4 FOR BEING HERE. 02:09PM 5 MANAGEMENT STATEMENT. 02:09PM 6 02:09PM 7 PRESENTED THEY ARE ONE OF WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT 02:09PM 8 DISCOVERY? 02:09PM 9 FORWARD WITH -- MY CONCERN IS YOUR 26 CONFERENCE, 02:09PM 10 02:09PM 11 02:09PM 12 IS THAT IT APPEARED TO ME THAT, PERHAPS, THERE WAS 02:09PM 13 A LACK OF CLARITY IN THE PHASES I SUGGESTED THAT WE 02:09PM 14 GO FORWARD IN. 02:09PM 15 02:09PM 16 WHICH PHASE WE'RE ON NOW AND YOU WANTED SOME 02:09PM 17 GUIDANCE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 02:09PM 18 02:09PM 19 MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT YOU SHOULD ENGAGE IN YOUR RULE 02:09PM 20 26 CONFERENCE. 02:09PM 21 2 WEEKS, 14 DAYS, GET THAT GOING AND THEN WHAT I 02:09PM 22 WOULD LIKE AND PROPOSE FOR YOU TO DO IS TO SUBMIT 02:10PM 23 YOUR PROPOSED SCHEDULE TO ME PERHAPS 14 DAYS 02:10PM 24 THEREAFTER. 02:10PM 25 WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE ROOM IN SO THANK YOU ALL THANK YOU FOR YOUR JOINT CASE I APPRECIATE THAT. IT SEEMS THAT THE ISSUES THAT ARE AND WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT GOING RULE 26 CONFERENCE. MY THOUGHT, WHEN I READ YOUR STATEMENT, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHAT I WANTED TO INDICATE TO YOU IS THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO THAT WITHIN AND THEN I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND TWEAK IT 5 02:10PM 1 OR MODIFY IT IF I THINK IT IS NECESSARY. 02:10PM 2 02:10PM 3 INDICATING THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THE PARTIES FELT 02:10PM 4 THAT, I THINK IT WAS YOU, MR. BROWN, THAT THERE BE 02:10PM 5 A STAY ON DISCOVERY PENDING ANY FURTHER PROCEEDING. 02:10PM 6 I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU IF YOU WANT TO 02:10PM 7 02:10PM 8 02:10PM 9 02:10PM 10 KNOW, ASIDE FROM WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO THE 26(F) 02:10PM 11 CONFERENCE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 02:10PM 12 ISSUES THAT GET DISCUSSED IN THOSE CONFERENCES AND 02:10PM 13 NOT ALL OF THEM TIE DIRECTLY TO DISCOVERY, BUT MY 02:10PM 14 THINKING WAS SIMPLY THAT WE HAVE A COMPLAINT HERE 02:10PM 15 THAT HAS GOT, I THINK, 11 CAUSES OF ACTION AND 02:10PM 16 WE'RE FILING OUR MOTION TO DISMISS THAT IS COMING 02:10PM 17 MONDAY AND THERE'S A BRIEFING SCHEDULE NOW SET OUT 02:11PM 18 BY THE AGREEMENT OF THE PARTIES AND ORDER OF THE 02:11PM 19 COURT FOR THAT. 02:11PM 20 02:11PM 21 WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WOULD BE TO RESOLVE WHAT THE 02:11PM 22 SCOPE OF THE COMPLAINT, SOME OF THESE CLAIMS ARE 02:11PM 23 GOING TO GO THROUGH AND OTHERS ARE NOT, ARE WE 02:11PM 24 GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET LEAVE TO AMEND WHICH, OF 02:11PM 25 COURSE, CHANGES THE ALLEGATIONS. I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT GO FORWARD ON THAT. MR. BROWN: YEAH. I MEAN, MY THINKING ON IT, AND THIS MAY NOT SURPRISE YOU, WOULD BE, YOU AND IT STRIKES ME THAT THE APPROACH THAT 6 02:11PM 1 AND BEFORE WE LAUNCH INTO DISCOVERY IT 02:11PM 2 WOULD BE BETTER TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHETHER THE 02:11PM 3 COMPLAINT IS GOING TO GO FORWARD, AND, IF SO, WHAT 02:11PM 4 THE CONTOURS OF THE COMPLAINT ARE GOING TO BE. 02:11PM 5 THE COURT: 02:11PM 6 MR. FRICKLETON: 02:11PM 7 PLAINTIFFS, I THINK IT IS WISE TO GO FORWARD WITH A 02:11PM 8 RULE 26 CONFERENCE BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT WE CAN 02:11PM 9 RESOLVE SOME OF OUR ISSUES REGARDING DISCOVERY AT 02:11PM 10 THAT TIME AND THEREAFTER TO SUBMIT A PROPOSED 02:11PM 11 SCHEDULE THAT WILL HAVE, I'M SURE SOME ITEMS AGREED 02:11PM 12 TO AND PERHAPS SOME ITEMS NOT AGREED TO, AND THEN 02:11PM 13 YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. 02:11PM 14 02:12PM 15 ANY OTHER CASE IN THAT THERE MAY BE SITUATIONS 02:12PM 16 WHERE A MOTION TO DISMISS IS FILED, AND WE BELIEVE 02:12PM 17 THE RULES ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD THAT IT SHOULD GO 02:12PM 18 FORWARD AND WE BELIEVE THERE'S NO -- 02:12PM 19 02:12PM 20 THINGS WITH MY EXPERIENCE, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE 02:12PM 21 COULD HAVE A 26(F) AND GIVE YOU A PROPOSED 02:12PM 22 SCHEDULE, BUT THE 26(F) IS THE TRIGGER UNDER THE 02:12PM 23 RULES TO START, AND MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT WE 02:12PM 24 OFTEN GET ALL KINDS OF DISCOVERY THE DAY AFTER THE 02:12PM 25 26(F) CONFERENCE AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HOW YOU'RE SURE. YOUR HONOR, ON BEHALF OF I THINK THERE ARE -- THIS IS NOT UNLIKE MR. BROWN: AND A COUPLE OF PRACTICAL 7 02:12PM 1 GOING TO GET THIS STAYED AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO 02:12PM 2 RESPOND. 02:12PM 3 02:12PM 4 02:12PM 5 02:12PM 6 UNFORTUNATELY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE 02:12PM 7 FEDERAL RULES ARE SET OUT WITH CERTAIN TIMING IN 02:12PM 8 MIND BUT CASES ARE DIFFERENT AND NOT ALL CASES ARE 02:13PM 9 LIKE THIS ONE. 02:13PM 10 02:13PM 11 BEHALF OF THE CLIENT, FRANKLY, IS TO SEE US SPEND A 02:13PM 12 COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON DISCOVERY 02:13PM 13 WHILE OUR MOTION TO DISMISS IS PENDING, AND THAT'S 02:13PM 14 NOT REALLY AN EXAGGERATION. 02:13PM 15 VERY QUICKLY. 02:13PM 16 02:13PM 17 02:13PM 18 02:13PM 19 YOUR COLLEAGUE OPPOSITE, ABOUT SHOULD WE TREAT THIS 02:13PM 20 CASE DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY OTHER CASE? 02:13PM 21 OUTLIER TO THE FEDERAL RULES? 02:13PM 22 BE TREATED ANY DIFFERENT? 02:13PM 23 02:13PM 24 ANSWER I CAME UP WITH IS, NO, IT SHOULD GO FORWARD 02:13PM 25 JUST AS ANY OTHER CASE. THE COURT: SO YOU HAVE GREAT EXPERIENCE MR. BROWN: IT HAS HAPPENED A FEW TIMES, IN THIS? AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE HAPPEN ON THE COURT: I MEAN, IT ADDS UP WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT CONCERN, I DO, IT'S A REALISTIC ONE. I WAS CURIOUS, YOU TOUCHED ON, AS DID IS IT AN AND I WHY SHOULD IT AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, AND I GUESS THE NOT TO DISPARAGE THE CASE 8 02:13PM 1 OR ANYTHING, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO DEPART 02:13PM 2 FROM THE RULES. 02:13PM 3 02:14PM 4 THERE'S A REQUEST TO STAY DISCOVERY PENDING 02:14PM 5 WHATEVER, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DECLINE THAT 02:14PM 6 INVITATION, AND I THINK DISCOVERY SHOULD GO FORWARD 02:14PM 7 AS IN ANY OTHER CASE. 02:14PM 8 AND AS YOU SUGGEST, THE 26(F) TRIGGERS 02:14PM 9 THAT AND WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO IS TO HAVE YOUR 02:14PM 10 CONFERENCE, AS I SAID, WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF TODAY'S 02:14PM 11 DATE AND THEN TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT I APPRECIATE A 02:14PM 12 PROPOSED SCHEDULE FROM YOU AND I'LL LOOK AT IT AND 02:14PM 13 TWEAK IT OR LET YOU KNOW MY THOUGHTS ON IT AND GET 02:14PM 14 IT BACK TO YOU SHORTLY THEREAFTER. 02:14PM 15 02:14PM 16 DISCOVERY AT THIS POINT. 02:14PM 17 FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY IT WON'T BE TREMENDOUSLY 02:14PM 18 EXPENSIVE. 02:14PM 19 YOU'RE PROBABLY RENTING THE TRUCKS TO GET THEM UP 02:15PM 20 TO THE DOCKS. 02:15PM 21 02:15PM 22 PRIOR MEETING ABOUT THE MOTION PRACTICE, AND I 02:15PM 23 THINK YOU HAVE THOSE DATES. 02:15PM 24 MR. FRICKLETON: 02:15PM 25 MR. BROWN: SO IT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT IS THAT IF I'M NOT GOING TO SUSPEND THE STAY OF I THINK THAT CAN GO I UNDERSTAND IN A CASE LIKE THIS THAT BUT YOU DO HAVE THE SCHEDULE FROM THE THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT, YOUR HONOR. 9 02:15PM 1 THE COURT: TERRIFIC. I'M HAPPY TO 02:15PM 2 02:15PM 3 MR. BROWN: 02:15PM 4 MR. FRICKLETON: 02:15PM 5 02:15PM 6 02:15PM 7 WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS NOW OR IT CAN ALSO GET TEED 02:15PM 8 UP WHEN WE PROPOSE A SCHEDULE, DEPENDING ON WHETHER 02:15PM 9 THE PARTIES SEE EYE TO EYE OR ON PROPOSING 02:15PM 10 COMPETING SCHEDULES BUT IS EXACTLY, THE SCOPE OF 02:15PM 11 DISCOVERY, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN PROPOSE THAT 02:15PM 12 DISCOVERY BE BIFURCATED BETWEEN CLASSIFICATION 02:15PM 13 RELATED DISCOVERY AND MERITS DISCOVERY. 02:15PM 14 02:15PM 15 CRYSTAL CLEAR, AND I WOULDN'T TRY TO TAKE A 02:15PM 16 POSITION TO THE CONTRARY. 02:15PM 17 02:16PM 18 CAN AGREE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST SOME BALANCE TO 02:16PM 19 WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A CLASS CERTIFICATION ISSUE AND 02:16PM 20 IT CAN OFTEN BE VERY HELPFUL TO A DEFENDANT LIKE 02:16PM 21 FACEBOOK TO HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS PUT ON THAT 02:16PM 22 BECAUSE IF THE CASE IS NOT GOING TO GET PAST A 02:16PM 23 MOTION TO DISMISS, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET PAST A 02:16PM 24 MOTION FOR CLASS CERTIFICATION TO THEN ENGAGE IN 02:16PM 25 WIDE OPEN, FULL ON MERITS DISCOVERY CAN BE VERY, ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. I GUESS ONE -I HAVE, BUT GO RIGHT ON AHEAD. MR. BROWN: I GUESS ONE OTHER ISSUE, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE LINE IS NOT ALWAYS AT THE SAME TIME OFTENTIMES THE PARTIES 10 02:16PM 1 VERY BURDENSOME TO THE COMPANY. 02:16PM 2 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST COST, I'M 02:16PM 3 TALKING ABOUT BURDEN TO THE COMPANY AS WELL AS 02:16PM 4 COST. 02:16PM 5 PUT ON THE TABLE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE 02:16PM 6 BIFURCATION. 02:16PM 7 02:16PM 8 02:16PM 9 02:16PM 10 THAT IS A VERY GOOD SUBJECT FOR OUR RULE 26(F) 02:16PM 11 MEETING. 02:16PM 12 LEGITIMATE ISSUE, AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO 02:16PM 13 APPROACH THAT AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST 02:16PM 14 ORDER OF BUSINESS IN WHAT WE DO. 02:16PM 15 02:17PM 16 AFTER WE HAVE THAT MEETING AND MAYBE HOPEFULLY 02:17PM 17 NARROW THAT ISSUE, IF IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE SOME 02:17PM 18 COMMUNICATION WITH THE COURT, IF WE CAN MAYBE DO 02:17PM 19 THAT IN SOME FASHION, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. 02:17PM 20 02:17PM 21 HAPPY TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO YOU ACCORDING TO 02:17PM 22 OUR COURT SCHEDULE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW YOU, 02:17PM 23 I MEAN, YOU'RE BOTH EXPERIENCED COUNSEL AND YOU 02:17PM 24 KNOW THE ISSUES THAT COME UP FROM DISCOVERY AND HOW 02:17PM 25 IT CAN BE BURDENSOME AND SOMETIMES COURTS SEE IT AS AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANT TO THE COURT: THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? MR. FRICKLETON: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE AND IT'S A PERHAPS IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO YOUR HONOR, THE COURT: LET ME JUST EXPRESS, I'M 11 02:17PM 1 -- VIEW IT FROM THE PLAINTIFF'S SIDE, WELL, THIS IS 02:17PM 2 JUST THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO GET AS MUCH AS THEY CAN 02:17PM 3 AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN AND IT'S REALLY NOT GERMANE 02:17PM 4 TO THE COURT AT THIS TIME, AND I'M COGNIZANT OF 02:17PM 5 THAT ARGUMENT, AND I'LL LOOK AT THAT. 02:17PM 6 02:17PM 7 DISCOVERY OF SOME SORT, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE WILLING 02:17PM 8 TO GIVE THEM WHAT YOU CAN AND A REASONABLE REQUEST. 02:17PM 9 02:17PM 10 HASH OUT THOSE ISSUES HOPE. 02:18PM 11 YOU CAN FOCUS DOWN ON WHAT IS REALLY NECESSARY AND 02:18PM 12 THEN WE CAN LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO 02:18PM 13 ACTUALLY BIFURCATE AND HOW MUCH BIFURCATION IS 02:18PM 14 NEEDED IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT BETWEEN AND AMONGST 02:18PM 15 YOURSELVES. 02:18PM 16 02:18PM 17 02:18PM 18 02:18PM 19 INEXPENSIVE AND NOT WITHOUT ITS BURDENS ON BOTH 02:18PM 20 SIDES, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE EMPLOYEES OF THE 02:18PM 21 COMPANY COULD BE BURDENED BY STAFF HOURS DEVOTED TO 02:18PM 22 COLLECTING INFORMATION. 02:18PM 23 02:18PM 24 PRACTICAL THING, I SUSPECT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING 02:18PM 25 THAT WE CAN WORK OUT, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT ON THE OTHER HAND, PLAINTIFFS NEED SOME SO I'LL GIVE YOU BOTH AN OPPORTUNITY TO MR. FRICKLETON: HOPEFULLY, AS YOU SAY, WE HAVE TO MEASURE THE EXPENSE IN A SIMILAR FASHION. THE COURT: MR. BROWN: ABSOLUTELY. IT'S NOT AND ONE MERE MATERIAL 12 02:18PM 1 THERE BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF 02:18PM 2 YEARS THIS HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES, IF WE GET 02:18PM 3 HIT WITH VERY BROAD DISCOVERY, AND A LOT OF TIMES 02:18PM 4 THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS, YOU GET VERY BROAD 02:18PM 5 DISCOVERY REQUESTS AND MAYBE THEY GET SCALED BACK 02:18PM 6 AT SOME POINT BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE 26(F) 02:19PM 7 14 DAYS LATER WE SUBMIT A PROPOSED SCHEDULE, WE 02:19PM 8 EITHER MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE ON WHETHER THERE SHOULD 02:19PM 9 BE BIFURCATION OR TO WHAT DEGREE. 02:19PM 10 02:19PM 11 WHERE WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO OUR 30-DAY TIME 02:19PM 12 TO RESPOND. 02:19PM 13 ISSUE, WE MAY END UP INCURRING THE VERY EXPENSE OR 02:19PM 14 BURDEN THAT I WAS TRYING TO AVOID -- 02:19PM 15 THE COURT: SURE. 02:19PM 16 MR. BROWN: -- THAT COULD EITHER BE 02:19PM 17 RESOLVED, POTENTIALLY, IF WE SEE EYE TO EYE IN 02:19PM 18 BIFURCATION OF THE 26(F). 02:19PM 19 02:19PM 20 REACHING SOME AGREEMENT AS TO EXTENDING THE 02:19PM 21 DISCOVERY RESPONSE DEADLINE SO THAT WE CAN GET THE 02:19PM 22 ISSUE WORKED OUT. 02:19PM 23 02:19PM 24 02:19PM 25 AND, AGAIN, WE COULD BE IN A SITUATION AND IF WE HAVE NOT RESOLVED THAT THE OTHER WAY IT CAN BE RESOLVED IS US MR. FRICKLETON: AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE REASONABLE ON THAT. THE COURT: YOU KNOW, I SEE GOOD FACES IN 13 02:19PM 1 THIS CASE AND PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD 02:19PM 2 CARRY OVER TO YOUR DISCOVERY DISCUSSION AS WELL. 02:19PM 3 YOU WANTED TO RAISE ANOTHER ISSUE? 02:19PM 4 MR. FRICKLETON: 02:19PM 5 HEARING ON THE ANTICIPATED MOTIONS IS ALREADY 02:20PM 6 SCHEDULED ON SEPTEMBER 21ST. 02:20PM 7 ROBERTSON, AGREED TO THAT WITHOUT CONSULTING HIS 02:20PM 8 CALENDAR VERY CLOSELY. 02:20PM 9 RETREAT WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US OUT OF THE 02:20PM 10 02:20PM 11 02:20PM 12 02:20PM 13 02:20PM 14 02:20PM 15 02:20PM 16 BEFOREHAND. 02:20PM 17 ISSUES, BUT IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE 02:20PM 18 MOVING THAT DATE, IT WOULD GREATLY HELP US. 02:20PM 19 THE COURT: 02:20PM 20 MR. FRICKLETON: 02:20PM 21 02:20PM 22 02:20PM 23 02:20PM 24 02:20PM 25 YES, YOUR HONOR. THE MY PARTNER, CHIP OUR FIRM HAS GOT A FIRM OFFICE. THE COURT: IS IT A LOVELY LOCATION? SHOULD I ENTERTAIN A CHANGE OF VENUE MOTION? MR. FRICKLETON: IT'S IN NORTH CAROLINA SO THAT RANGES FROM THE RIDICULOUS TO THE SUBLIME. AND I TALKED WITH MR. BROWN ABOUT THIS HE HAS OBVIOUSLY HIS OWN SCHEDULING IS IT THAT ENTIRE WEEK? WE HAD -- WE'RE OUT WE HAD THURSDAY, FRIDAY. THE COURT: I SEE. LET ME ASK OUR COURTROOM DEPUTY, MS. GARCIA, TO LOOK AT THAT. AND, MR. BROWN, IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT, WE'LL LOOK INTO THIS. 14 02:20PM 1 MR. BROWN: 02:20PM 2 THAT BY -- I MEAN, I CAN LOOK AT MY SCHEDULE HERE, 02:21PM 3 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RUN THAT BY OTHER PEOPLE AT 02:21PM 4 COOLEY IF I COULD BEFORE WE AGREE ON A DATE. 02:21PM 5 02:21PM 6 OUR CALENDAR HERE AND WE'LL OFFER YOU SOME PROPOSED 02:21PM 7 DATES AND MAYBE IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK YOU DURING 02:21PM 8 YOUR CONFERENCE. 02:21PM 9 BEFORE THEN? 02:21PM 10 02:21PM 11 SOME PROPOSED DATES OR MAYBE CHECK WITH EVERYONE'S 02:21PM 12 CALENDARS IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO IF WE CAN GET 02:21PM 13 SOMETHING LOCKED IN. 02:21PM 14 THE COURT: 02:21PM 15 (PAUSE IN PROCEEDINGS.) 02:21PM 16 THE COURT: 02:21PM 17 CAN GO TO, WITHOUT ANY DIFFICULTY, THE 28TH OF 02:21PM 18 SEPTEMBER, AND OCTOBER THE 5TH, OR 12TH, WITHOUT 02:22PM 19 ANY DIFFICULTY, KEEPING IT ON OUR REGULAR FRIDAY 02:22PM 20 LAW AND MOTION CALENDAR. 02:22PM 21 BE AT 9:00 O'CLOCK. 02:22PM 22 WE MIGHT HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, 02:22PM 23 MS. GARCIA, DO WE, THOSE AFTERNOONS OR LATER IN THE 02:22PM 24 MORNING? 02:22PM 25 THE COURT: I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO RUN WELL, LET'S -- WE'LL LOOK AT YOU PROBABLY NEED AN ANSWER MAYBE? I DON'T KNOW. MR. FRICKLETON: I THINK IF WE CAN GET OKAY. MS. GARCIA TELLS ME THAT WE MR. FRICKLETON: AND THAT WOULD TYPICALLY I'M OKAY WITH EITHER OF 15 02:22PM 1 THOSE. 02:22PM 2 THE CLERK: THE AFTERNOON IS FINE. 02:22PM 3 THE COURT: SO WE COULD USE AN AFTERNOON 02:22PM 4 IF WE NEEDED TO IF THAT FITS YOUR SCHEDULE OR IF 02:22PM 5 YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL MORNING AND SOME 02:22PM 6 TIME IN THE AFTERNOON, WE COULD HAVE THE AFTERNOON. 02:22PM 7 02:22PM 8 02:22PM 9 THE COURT: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 02:22PM 10 MR. BROWN: ALL RIGHT. 02:22PM 11 THE COURT: ANYTHING ELSE? 02:23PM 12 MR. KIESEL: 02:23PM 13 JUST TO REPORT AS LIAISON COUNSEL, AS OF YESTERDAY 02:23PM 14 I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT ALL COUNSEL ARE NOW ON 02:23PM 15 THE ECF OR GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM ECF SO THE 02:23PM 16 BURDEN ON THE COURT TO DO ANY PERSONAL SERVICE ARE 02:23PM 17 NOW ENDED. 02:23PM 18 THE COURT: 02:23PM 19 MR. KIESEL: 02:23PM 20 02:23PM 21 02:23PM 22 02:23PM 23 02:23PM 24 PROBLEMS WITH ECF JUST NOW. 02:23PM 25 HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE THERE ON MONDAY. MR. FRICKLETON: IF WE CAN DO OUR CHECKING AND GET BACK WITH MS. GARCIA NEXT WEEK? OKAY. THANK YOU. YOUR HONOR, PAUL KIESEL. THANK YOU. AND THANKS TO MY STAFF WHO ACTUALLY DID IT BEHIND ME. MR. BROWN: THIS MAY BE THE WRONG DAY TO TALK ABOUT ECF. THE COURT: WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE YES, WE ARE. 16 02:23PM 1 02:23PM 2 02:23PM 3 MR. FRICKLETON: 02:23PM 4 MR. BROWN: 02:23PM 5 (WHEREUPON, THE PROCEEDINGS IN THIS 02:23PM 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND AND A GOOD HOLIDAY. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. MATTER WERE CONCLUDED.) 1 2 3 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 4 5 6 7 I, THE UNDERSIGNED OFFICIAL COURT 8 REPORTER OF THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR 9 THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA, 280 SOUTH 10 FIRST STREET, SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA, DO HEREBY 11 CERTIFY: 12 THAT THE FOREGOING TRANSCRIPT, 13 CERTIFICATE INCLUSIVE, CONSTITUTES A TRUE, FULL AND 14 CORRECT TRANSCRIPT OF MY SHORTHAND NOTES TAKEN AS 15 SUCH OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER OF THE PROCEEDINGS 16 HEREINBEFORE ENTITLED AND REDUCED BY COMPUTER-AIDED 17 TRANSCRIPTION TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 /S/ _____________________________ IRENE RODRIGUEZ, CSR, CRR CERTIFICATE NUMBER 8074 DATED: JULY 18, 2012

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