Dunstan et al v. comScore, Inc.

Filing 108

RESPONSE by comScore, Inc. to MOTION by Plaintiffs Jeff Dunstan, Mike Harris to compel comScore to Respond to Written Discovery 104 (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A, # 2 Exhibit B, # 3 Exhibit C, # 4 Exhibit D, # 5 Exhibit E, # 6 Exhibit F, # 7 Exhibit G, # 8 Exhibit H)(Bowland, Robyn)

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EXHIBIT E 99999.77815/4738143.1 Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 2 of 11 PageID #:902 1 1 TRANSCRIBED FROM DIGITAL RECORDING 2 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS EASTERN DIVISION 3 4 5 6 JEFF DUNSTAN, individually and on behalf of a class of similarly situated individuals; and MIKE HARRIS, Plaintiffs, 7 8 9 vs. COMSCORE, INC., a Delaware corporation, 10 11 12 13 14 Defendant. 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 No. 11 C 5807 Chicago, Illinois April 17, 2012 11:11 A.M. TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS - Status BEFORE THE HONORABLE YOUNG B. KIM, Magistrate Judge APPEARANCES: For the Plaintiffs: EDELSON McGUIRE, LLC 350 North LaSalle Street, Suite 1300 Chicago, Illinois 60654 BY: MR. CHANDLER RANDOLPH GIVENS For the Defendant: QUINN EMANUEL URQUHART & SULLIVAN, LLP 500 West Madison Street, Suite 2450 Chicago, Illinois 60606 BY: MR. ANDREW H. SCHAPIRO 15 16 ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) STACK & O'CONNOR CHARTERED 140 South Dearborn Street, Suite 411 Chicago, Illinois 60603 BY: MR. PAUL F. STACK PAMELA S. WARREN, CSR, RPR Official Court Reporter 219 South Dearborn Street, Room 1928 Chicago, Illinois 60604 (312) 294-8907 NOTE: Please notify of correct speaker identification. FAILURE TO SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE MAKES PORTIONS UNINTELLIGIBLE. Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 3 of 11 PageID #:903 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 (Proceedings held in open court:) THE CLERK: 11 C 5807, Harris, et al., versus comScore, Inc. MR. SCHAPIRO: Andrew Schapiro for comScore, defendants. MR. GIVENS: Good morning, your Honor. Chandler Givens on behalf of plaintiffs. MR. STACK: Good morning, your Honor. Paul Stack for the defendant. 10 THE COURT: I'm sorry, say that one more time. Mr.? 11 MR. GIVENS: Chandler Givens. 12 THE COURT: Givens. 13 Okay. 14 MR. SCHAPIRO: Your Honor, since we were last here, 15 comScore has completed its document production. We have turned 16 over to the plaintiffs more than 8700 documents. If you 17 printed it all out, it would run to more than a million pages 18 because some of them are lengthy. 19 In consultation with the plaintiffs, we produced a 20 number of them in what's called native form, electronic form 21 for them. 22 You'll also recall that when we were last here the 23 plaintiffs had raised an issue about what's called the mac 24 source code. 25 THE COURT: Right. Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 4 of 11 PageID #:904 3 1 MR. SCHAPIRO: And they said that they -- their expert 2 said that there had been eight builds. We produced the eight 3 builds of the mac source code to the plaintiffs. 4 THE COURT: Okay. 5 MR. SCHAPIRO: We had a meet and confer about our 6 interrogatory answers because the plaintiffs had some 7 complaints about our interrogatory answers, so we provided them 8 with a set of supplemental interrogatory answers that we 9 believe are sufficient and satisfactory. Actually it went a 10 little beyond what we thought was necessary, but that's what we 11 provided them with. 12 We have received a production just last week from the 13 plaintiffs in response to our discovery requests, and we have 14 just started going through it. But on first glance I think it 15 is possible that we will seen be before your Honor on a motion 16 of some sort. But first we want to meet and confer with them. 17 They have given us a total of 558 pages. Two hundred 18 of those pages are our own quarterly report. It also includes 19 rule -- the text of Rule 23, the legislative history. 20 There doesn't seem to be a whole lot in there. And 21 there is some requests that we made that we think weren't 22 responded to. But we may be able to work it out in a meet and 23 confer. 24 25 One issue that I wanted to flag for the Court, that is probably one we're not going to be able to work in a meet and Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 5 of 11 PageID #:905 4 1 confer, but hopes spring eternal, is that we have asked to 2 inspect the computers of the two named plaintiffs in this 3 case. And we were told that one of the named plaintiffs threw 4 his computer away and doesn't have it anymore. And the other 5 one they are -- they are refusing to let us inspect. 6 Maybe we can work that out. If -- if not, we think it 7 is a problem, and we're likely to be before you. But we would 8 want to marshal our authorities before we do that. 9 THE COURT: As I recall the allegation is that either 10 Dunstan or Mr. Harris had to buy a program to have the -- you 11 know, whatever that was downloaded, removed. So I'm not 12 sure -- I guess I'm limited in that regard exactly what the 13 forensic analyst is able to in fact conclude from an inspection 14 as to whether this particular program that was downloaded did 15 in fact interfere with other programs. 16 MR. SCHAPIRO: At the threshold, your Honor, we don't 17 even know that these -- that these individuals ever downloaded 18 our software. We have no record that they did. 19 And so if you imagine a class action in which someone 20 came and said, I was an AT&T customer and they overbilled me, 21 you at least need to show they used AT&T. 22 THE COURT: But I think that if -- if at some point 23 that this has to be briefed, at a minimum I think that I would 24 like to see from a forensic analyst what he or she is able to 25 in fact discover from reviewing a computer. Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 6 of 11 PageID #:906 5 1 MR. SCHAPIRO: That's a good point. 2 THE COURT: You know, can he or she confirm that this 3 particular computer did not in fact download the program at 4 issue. 5 6 7 If the conclusion is that he can't verify, he can't confirm, that has no weight at all. MR. SCHAPIRO: That makes perfect sense, your Honor. 8 So we will, if we do end up having to move on it, we will offer 9 a proffer saying -- of saying what we think an expert would be 10 able to determine and why it would be relevant. 11 There is one issue -- there may be others that 12 Mr. Givens raises. There is one outstanding issue, and I don't 13 know whether the plaintiffs are likely to make a motion on this 14 or not. It came up at a meet and confer that we had. 15 The one discovery request of theirs that -- as to 16 which we have not provided an interrogatory response or 17 documents because we think it does not fall under the terms of 18 your Honor's order bifurcating between class -- 19 THE COURT: Yes. 20 MR. SCHAPIRO: -- and merits discovery has to do with 21 their request to learn the number of complaints that comScore 22 has received from the public or from panelists and in a 23 document request the text of such complaints. 24 25 THE COURT: I have to go back to my order. I don't remember that specifically. Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 7 of 11 PageID #:907 6 1 MR. SCHAPIRO: That was one on which earlier -- prior 2 counsel Cooley Godward had agreed in preliminary negotiations 3 with the plaintiffs is that -- 4 THE COURT: So I didn't deal with it. 5 MR. SCHAPIRO: -- we'll produce it, so your Honor 6 didn't address it. 7 THE COURT: Okay. 8 MR. SCHAPIRO: We have looked at it, especially in the 9 context of the order, but also there is some burden issues that 10 frankly we weren't aware of earlier until we dug a little more 11 deeply into how the company works. And one of the burden 12 issues there is that there are many communications back and 13 forth between panelists and the companies. People saying, you 14 know, I'd like it if you offered a different kind of -- a 15 premium for answering -- filling out surveys. Or I didn't gut 16 get my points on time. Or where should I look for blah, blah, 17 blah? 18 So even determining what qualifies as a complaint is 19 going to require someone, probably a lawyer, to look through a 20 very large number of communications. Because they are not 21 filed by type of communication -- 22 THE COURT: Okay. 23 MR. SCHAPIRO: -- they are just communications. 24 But we don't -- we -- it may come to it. It may turn 25 out that that's relevant at the merit stage. But our belief Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 8 of 11 PageID #:908 7 1 now is that, in any event, it is not relevant for class cert, 2 and so we don't think we should (unintelligible) with that 3 burden. 4 THE COURT: So what you are saying is that you agreed 5 to produce this stuff thinking that it wasn't going to be that 6 big of a deal, and it turns out that it is a big deal. So now 7 you would like to raise the objection that it really isn't 8 relevant to the class discovery. 9 MR. SCHAPIRO: Precisely. 10 THE COURT: Okay. 11 And Mr. Givens -- 12 MR. GIVENS: Your Honor, if I may. 13 THE COURT: -- anything you wish to add? 14 MR. GIVENS: I can respond to a few of Mr. Schapiro's 15 points here. 16 THE COURT: Okay. 17 MR. GIVENS: First off, there are some deficiencies in 18 defendant's production that we wanted to raise with the Court 19 right away. One is that they did produce a million documents 20 this past Friday, or over a million if you printed them out, 21 although we haven't printed them yet, but we will. 22 However, they haven't identified which Bates numbers 23 are responsive to which requests. So we're left with what 24 effectively is a million pages, and we're just sifting through 25 without knowing what responds to which requests. Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 9 of 11 PageID #:909 8 1 The second point is Interrogatory Number 8, which we 2 met and conferred about last week, we have another meet and 3 confer scheduled for this week, but if we're not able to -- to 4 resolve that issue between the parties, we wanted to say that 5 the reason that we propounded that interrogatory was because we 6 were looking to see whether or not panelists have been 7 complaining about the software being on their computers and 8 them not knowing about it. 9 So comScore is purporting that they are obtaining 10 meaningful consent from consumers. But we also know for a fact 11 that they don't have a full record of all the different types 12 of terms of service displayed for different users. So it would 13 be helpful for us, to guide us in the right direction, to see 14 if a user is saying, hey, look, I never agreed to this, what is 15 the software on my computer, comScore, to then be able to go 16 examine and to test the veracity of whether or not consent was 17 obtained through those different pieces of software, if that 18 makes sense to your Honor. 19 THE COURT: Well, you know better -- you know about 20 this case better than I do. I don't really understand that 21 point. 22 23 MR. GIVENS: It may be easiest to lay out in the papers, your Honor. 24 THE COURT: All right. Maybe, but -- I don't want to 25 lose -- all right. Let's do this. You have a meet and confer Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 10 of 11 PageID #:910 9 1 scheduled for this week. And that meet and confer meeting is 2 designed to discuss all outstanding issues? 3 MR. GIVENS: Yes, your Honor. 4 MR. SCHAPIRO: Yes. 5 THE COURT: I mean, on the one hand I want to move as 6 quickly as possible with these discovery issues. But, on the 7 other hand, I do want to give you the time to work some of 8 these things out on your own. 9 So what I will do is, if necessary, and I think that 10 there will be some motions, if necessary motions to compel 11 filed -- motions to compel to be filed by May 4. 12 Response, if motions are filed, by May 18. 13 And once I look at -- look at the motions and the 14 responses, I'll set a date for status hearing or oral argument 15 or just simply rule by mail. 16 17 MR. SCHAPIRO: And, your Honor, are you contemplating simultaneous submissions -- 18 THE COURT: Correct. 19 MR. SCHAPIRO: -- so if we have -- 20 THE COURT: So if you have motions, file them by the 21 4th. 22 MR. SCHAPIRO: The 4th and the 4th. 23 THE COURT: And the same thing. 24 MR. SCHAPIRO: Terrific. 25 THE COURT: So I'll just deal with them all. Okay? Case: 1:11-cv-05807 Document #: 104-4 Filed: 05/04/12 Page 11 of 11 PageID #:911 10 1 2 MR. SCHAPIRO: We'll try and minimize them, your Honor. 3 THE COURT: All right. Thank you. 4 MR. GIVENS: Thank you, your Honor. 5 MR. STACK: Thank you, your Honor. 6 7 8 9 (Which concluded the proceedings in the above-entitled matter.) CERTIFICATE I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing is a true, correct 10 and complete transcript of the proceedings had at the hearing 11 of the aforementioned cause on the day and date hereof. 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 /s/Pamela S. Warren Official Court Reporter United States District Court Northern District of Illinois Eastern Division April 18, 2012 Date

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