International Refugee Assistance Project et al v. Trump et al

Filing 91

MOTION for Temporary Restraining Order and/or Preliminary Injunction by HIAS, Inc., Allan Hakky, International Refugee Assistance Project, Jane Doe 1, John Doe 1-4, Samaneh Takaloo (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit IRAP Declaration, # 2 Exhibit HIAS Declaration, # 3 Exhibit MESA Declaration, # 4 Exhibit John Doe 1 Declaration, # 5 Exhibit John Doe 3 Declaration, # 6 Exhibit Mateab Declaration, # 7 Exhibit Jane Doe 2 Declaration, # 8 Exhibit Mohomed Declaration, # 9 Exhibit Harrison Declaration, # 10 Exhibit Hausman Declaration Pt. 1, # 11 Exhibit Hausman Declaration Pt. 2, # 12 Exhibit Hausman Declaration Pt. 3)(Jadwat, Omar)

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Armenia
(../geos/am.html)

Armenian Apostolic 92.6%, Evangelical 1%, other 2.4%, none 1.1%, unspecified
2.9% (2011 est.)

Aruba (../geos/aa.html)

Roman Catholic 75.3%, Protestant 4.9% (includes Methodist 0.9%, Adventist
0.9%, Anglican 0.4%, other Protestant 2.7%), Jehovah's Witness 1.7%, other
12%, none 5.5%, unspecified 0.5% (2010 est.)

Australia
(../geos/as.html)

Protestant 30.1% (Anglican 17.1%, Uniting Church 5.0%, Presbyterian and
Reformed 2.8%, Baptist, 1.6%, Lutheran 1.2%, Pentecostal 1.1%, other
Protestant 1.3%), Catholic 25.3% (Roman Catholic 25.1%, other Catholic 0.2%),
other Christian 2.9%, Orthodox 2.8%, Buddhist 2.5%, Muslim 2.2%, Hindu 1.3%,
other 1.3%, none 22.3%, unspecified 9.3% (2011 est.)

Austria (../geos/au.html) Catholic 73.8% (includes Roman Catholic 73.6%, other Catholic 0.2%),
Protestant 4.9%, Muslim 4.2%, Orthodox 2.2%, other 0.8% (includes other
Christian), none 12%, unspecified 2% (2001 est.)
Azerbaijan
(../geos/aj.html)

Muslim 96.9% (predominantly Shia), Christian 3%, other <0.1, unaffiliated <0.1
(2010 est.)
note: religious affiliation is still nominal in Azerbaijan; percentages for actual
practicing adherents are much lower

Bahamas, The
(../geos/bf.html)

Protestant 69.9% (includes Baptist 34.9%, Anglican 13.7%, Pentecostal 8.9%
Seventh Day Adventist 4.4%, Methodist 3.6%, Church of God 1.9%, Brethren
1.6%), Roman Catholic 12%, other Christian 13% (includes Jehovah's Witness
1.1%), other 0.6%, none 1.9%, unspecified 2.6% (2010 est.)

Bahrain (../geos/ba.html) Muslim 70.3%, Christian 14.5%, Hindu 9.8%, Buddhist 2.5%, Jewish 0.6%, folk
religion <.1, unaffiliated 1.9%, other 0.2% (2010 est.)
Bangladesh
(../geos/bg.html)
Barbados
(../geos/bb.html)

Muslim 89.1%, Hindu 10%, other 0.9% (includes Buddhist, Christian) (2013 est.)
Protestant 66.4% (includes Anglican 23.9%, other Pentecostal 19.5%, Adventist
5.9%, Methodist 4.2%, Wesleyan 3.4%, Nazarene 3.2%, Church of God 2.4%,
Baptist 1.8%, Moravian 1.2%, other Protestant 0.9%), Roman Catholic 3.8%,
other Christian 5.4% (includes Jehovah's Witness 2.0%, other 3.4%),
Rastafarian 1%, other 1.5%, none 20.6%, unspecified 1.2% (2010 est.)

Belarus (../geos/bo.html) Orthodox 48.3%, Catholic 7.1%, other 3.5%, non-believers 41.1% (2011 est.)
Belgium
(../geos/be.html)
Belize (../geos/bh.html)

Roman Catholic 75%, other (includes Protestant) 25%
Roman Catholic 40.1%, Protestant 31.5% (includes Pentecostal 8.4%, Seventh
Day Adventist 5.4%, Anglican 4.7%, Mennonite 3.7%, Baptist 3.6%, Methodist
2.9%, Nazarene 2.8%), Jehovah's Witness 1.7%, other 10.5% (includes Baha'i,
Buddhist, Hindu, Morman, Muslim, Rastafarian), unknown 0.6%, none 15.5%
(2010 est.)

Benin (../geos/bn.html)

Muslim 27.7%, Catholic 25.5%, Protestant 13.5% (Celestial 6.7%, Methodist
3.4%, other Protestant 3.4%), Vodoun 11.6%, other Christian 9.5%, other
traditional religions 2.6%, other 2.6%, none 5.8% (2013 est.)

Bermuda
(../geos/bd.html)

Protestant 46.2% (includes Anglican 15.8%, African Methodist Episcopal 8.6%,
Seventh Day Adventist 6.7, Pentecostal 3.5%, Methodist 2.7%, Presbyterian 2.0
%, Church of God 1.6%, Baptist 1.2%, Salvation Army 1.1%, Brethren 1.0%,
other Protestant 2.0%), Roman Catholic 14.5%, Jehovah's Witness 1.3%, other
Christian 9.1%, Muslim 1%, other 3.9%, none 17.8%, unspecified 6.2% (2010
est.)

Bhutan (../geos/bt.html) Lamaistic Buddhist 75.3%, Indian- and Nepalese-influenced Hinduism 22.1%,
other 2.6% (2005 est.)

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Bolivia (../geos/bl.html)

Roman Catholic 76.8%, Evangelical and Pentecostal 8.1%, Protestant 7.9%,
other 1.7%, none 5.5% (2012 est.)

Bos nia and Herzegovina
(../geos/bk.html)

Muslim 50.7%, Orthodox 30.7%, Roman Catholic 15.2%, atheist 0.8%, agnostic
0.3%, other 1.2%, undeclared/no answer 1.1% (2013 est.)

Botswana
(../geos/bc.html)

Christian 79.1%, Badimo 4.1%, other 1.4% (includes Baha'i, Hindu, Muslim,
Rastafarian), none 15.2%, unspecified 0.3% (2011 est.)

Brazil (../geos/br.html)

Roman Catholic 64.6%, other Catholic 0.4%, Protestant 22.2% (includes
Adventist 6.5%, Assembly of God 2.0%, Christian Congregation of Brazil 1.2%,
Universal Kingdom of God 1.0%, other Protestant 11.5%), other Christian 0.7%,
Spiritist 2.2%, other 1.4%, none 8%, unspecified 0.4% (2010 est.)

British Virgin Islands
(../geos/vi.html)

Protestant 70.2% (Methodist 17.6%, Church of God 10.4%, Anglican 9.5%,
Seventh Day Adventist 9.0%, Pentecostal 8.2%, Baptist 7.4%, New Testament
Church of God 6.9%, other Protestant 1.2%), Roman Catholic 8.9%, Jehovah's
W itness 2.5%, Hindu 1.9%, other 6.2%, none 7.9%, unspecified 2.4% (2010 est.)

Brunei (../geos/bx.html)

Muslim (official) 78.8%, Christian 8.7%, Buddhist 7.8%, other (includes
indigenous beliefs) 4.7% (2011 est.)

Bulgaria
(../geos/bu.html)

Eastern Orthodox 59.4%, Muslim 7.8%, other (including Catholic, Protestant,
Armenian Apostolic Orthodox, and Jewish) 1.7%, none 3.7%, unspecified 27.4%
(2011 est.)

Burkina Faso
(../geos/uv.html)

Muslim 61.6%, Catholic 23.2%, traditional/animist 7.3%, Protestant 6.7%,
other/no answer 0.2%, none 0.9% (2010 est.)

Burma (../geos/bm.html) Buddhist 87.9%, Christian 6.2%, Muslim 4.3%, Animist 0.8%, Hindu 0.5%, other
0.2%, none 0.1%
note: religion estimate is based on the 2014 national census, including an
estimate for the non-enumerated population of Rakhine State, which is assumed
to mainly affiliate with the Islamic faith (2014 est.)
Burundi (../geos/by.html) Catholic 62.1%, Protestant 23.9% (includes Adventist 2.3% and other Protestant
21.6%), Muslim 2.5%, other 3.6%, unspecified 7.9% (2008 est.)
Cabo Verde
(../geos/cv.html)

Cambodia
(../geos/cb.html)
Cameroon
(../geos/cm.html)

Roman Catholic 77.3%, Protestant 4.6% (includes Church of the Nazarene 1.7%,
Adventist 1.5%, Assembly of God 0.9%, Universal Kingdom of God 0.4%, and
God and Love 0.1%), other Christian 3.4% (includes Christian Rationalism 1.9%,
Jehovah's Witness 1%, and New Apostolic 0.5%), Muslim 1.8%, other 1.3%,
none 10.8%, unspecified 0.7% (2010 est.)
Buddhist (official) 96.9%, Muslim 1.9%, Christian 0.4%, other 0.8% (2008 est.)
Catholic 38.4%, Protestant 26.3%, other Christian 4.5%, Muslim 20.9%, animist
5.6%, other 1%, non-believer 3.2% (2005 est.)

Canada (../geos/ca.html) Catholic 39% (includes Roman Catholic 38.8%, other Catholic .2%), Protestant
20.3% (includes United Church 6.1%, Anglican 5%, Baptist 1.9%, Lutheran
1.5%, Pentecostal 1.5%, Presbyterian 1.4%, other Protestant 2.9%), Orthodox
1.6%, other Christian 6.3%, Muslim 3.2%, Hindu 1.5%, Sikh 1.4%, Buddhist
1.1%, Jewish 1%, other 0.6%, none 23.9% (2011 est.)
Cayman Islands
(../geos/cj.html)

Protestant 67.8% (includes Church of God 22.6%, Seventh Day Adv entist 9.4%,
Presbyterian/United Church 8.6%, Baptist 8.3%,Pentecostal 7.1%, nondenominational 5.3%, Anglican 4.1%, Wesleyan Holiness 2.4%), Roman Catholic
14.1%, Jehovah's Witness 1.1%, other 7%, none 9.3%, unspecified 0.7% (2010
est.)

Central African Republic
(../geos/ct.html)

indigenous beliefs 35%, Protestant 25%, Roman Catholic 25%, Muslim 15%
note: animistic beliefs and practices strongly influence the Christian majority

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Chad (../geos/cd.html)

Muslim 58.4%, Catholic 18.5%, Protestant 16.1%, animist 4%, other 0.5%, none
2.4% (2009 est.)

Chile (../geos/ci.html)

Roman Catholic 66.7%, Evangelical or Protestant 16.4%, Jehovah's Witnesses
1%, other 3.4%, none 11.5%, unspecified 1.1% (2012 est.)

China (../geos/ch.html)

Buddhist 18.2%, Christian 5.1%, Muslim 1.8%, folk religion 21.9%, Hindu <
0.1%, Jewish < 0.1%, other 0.7% (includes Daoist (Taoist)), unaffiliated 52.2%
note: officially atheist (2010 est.)

Christmas Island
(../geos/kt.html)

Buddhist 16.9%, Christian 16.4%, Muslim 14.8%, other 1.3%, none 9.2%,
unspecified 41.5% (2011 est.)

Cocos (Keeling) Islands
(../geos/ck.html)
Colombia
(../geos/co.html)
Comoros
(../geos/cn.html)
Congo, Democratic
Republic of the
(../geos/cg.html)
Congo, Republic of the
(../geos/cf.html)

Sunni Muslim 80%, other 20% (2002 est.)
Roman Catholic 90%, other 10%
Sunni Muslim 98%, Roman Catholic 2%
note: Islam is the state religion
Roman Catholic 50%, Protestant 20%, Kimbanguist 10%, Muslim 10%, other
(includes syncretic sects and indigenous beliefs) 10%
Roman Catholic 33.1%, Awakening Churches/Christian Revival 22.3%,
Protestant 19.9%, Salutiste 2.2%, Muslim 1.6%, Kimbanguiste 1.5%, other 8.1%,
none 11.3% (2010 est.)

Cook Islands
(../geos/cw.html)

Protestant 62.8% (Cook Islands Christian Church 49.1%, Seventh Day Adventist
7.9%, Assemblies of God 3.7%, Apostolic Church 2.1%), Roman Catholic 17%,
Mormon 4.4%, other 8%, none 5.6%, no response 2.2% (2011 est.)

Costa Rica
(../geos/cs.html)

Roman Catholic 76.3%, Evangelical 13.7%, Jehovah's W itness 1.3%, other
Protestant 0.7%, other 4.8%, none 3.2%

Cote d'Ivoire
(../geos/iv.html)

Muslim 40.2%, Catholic 19.4%, Evangelical 19.3%, Methodist 2.5% , other
Christian 4.5%, animist or no religion 12.8%, other religion/unspecified 1.4%
(2011-12 est.)
note: the majority of foreign migrant workers are Muslim (72%) and Christian
(18%) (2014 est.)

Croatia (../geos/hr.html) Roman Catholic 86.3%, Orthodox 4.4%, Muslim 1.5%, other 1.5%, unspecified
2.5%, not religious or atheist 3.8% (2011 est.)
Cuba (../geos/cu.html)

nominally Roman Catholic 85%, Protestant, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jewish,
Santeria
note: prior to CASTRO assuming power

Curacao (../geos /cc.html) Roman Catholic 72.8%, Pentecostal 6.6%, Protestant 3.2%, Adventist 3%,
Jehovah's Witness 2%, Evangelical 1.9%, other 3.8%, none 6%, unspecified
0.6% (2011 est.)
Cyprus (../geos/cy.html) Orthodox Christian 89.1%, Roman Catholic 2.9%, Protestant/Anglican 2%,
Muslim 1.8%, Buddhist 1%, other (includes Maronite, Armenian Church, Hindu)
1.4%, unknown 1.1%, none/atheist 0.6%
note: data represent only the government-controlled area of Cyprus (2011 est.)
Czechia (../geos/ez.html) Roman Catholic 10.4%, Protestant (includes Czech Brethren and Hussite) 1.1%,
other and unspecified 54%, none 34.5% (2011 est.)
Denmark
(../geos/da.html)

Evangelical Lutheran (official) 80%, Muslim 4%, other (denominations of less
than 1% each, includes Roman Catholic, Jehovah's Witness, Serbian Orthodox
Christian, Jewish, Baptist, and Buddhist) 16% (2012 est.)

Djibouti (../geos/dj.html) Muslim 94%, Christian 6%

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Dominica
(../geos/do.html)

Roman Catholic 61.4%, Protestant 28.6% (includes Evangelical 6.7%, Seventh
Day Adventist 6.1%, Pentecostal 5.6%, Baptist 4.1%, Methodist 3.7%, Church of
God 1.2%, other 1.2%), Rastafarian 1.3%, Jehovah's Witness 1.2%, other 0.3%,
none 6.1%, unspecified 1.1% (2001 est.)

Dominican Republic
Roman Catholic 95%, other 5%
(../geos/dr.html)
Ecuador (../geos/ec.html) Roman Catholic 74%, Evangelical 10.4%, Jehovah's Witness 1.2%, other 6.4%
(includes Mormon Buddhist, Jewish, Spiritualist, Muslim, Hindu, indigenous
religions, African American religions, Pentecostal), atheist 7.9%, agnostic 0.1%
note: data represents persons at least 16 years of age from five Ecuadoran
cities (2012 est.)
Egypt (../geos/eg.html)

Muslim (predominantly Sunni) 90%, Christian (majority Coptic Orthodox, other
Christians include Armenian Apostolic, Catholic, Maronite, Orthodox, and
Anglican) 10% (2012 est.)

El Salvador
(../geos/es.html)

Roman Catholic 57.1%, Protestant 21.2%, Jehovah's W itnesses 1.9%, Mormon
0.7%, other religions 2.3%, none 16.8% (2003 est.)

Equatorial Guinea
(../geos/ek.html)
Eritrea (../geos/er.html)

nominally Christian and predominantly Roman Catholic, pagan practices
Muslim, Coptic Christian, Roman Catholic, Protestant

Estonia (../geos/en.html) Lutheran 9.9%, Orthodox 16.2%, other Christian (including Methodist, SeventhDay Adventist, Roman Catholic, Pentecostal) 2.2%, other 0.9%, none 54.1%,
unspecified 16.7% (2011 est.)
Ethiopia (../geos/et.html) Ethiopian Orthodox 43.5%, Muslim 33.9%, Protestant 18.5%, traditional 2.7%,
Catholic 0.7%, other 0.6% (2007 est.)
European Union
(../geos/ee.html)
Falkland Islands (Islas
Malvinas)
(../geos/fk.html)
Faroe Islands
(../geos/fo.html)

Roman Catholic 48%, Protestant 12%, Orthodox 8%, other Christian 4%, Muslim
2%, other 1% (includes Jewish, Sikh, Buddhist, Hindu), atheist 7%, nonbeliever/agnostic 16%, unspecified 2% (2012 est.)
Christian 66%, none 32%, other 2% (2012 est.)
Christian 89.3% (predominantly Evangelical Lutheran), other 0.7%, more than
one religion 0.2%, none 3.8%, unspecified 6% (2011 est.)

Fiji (../geos/fj.html)

Protestant 45% (Methodist 34.6%, Assembly of God 5.7%, Seventh Day
Adventist 3.9%, and Anglican 0.8%), Hindu 27.9%, other Christian 10.4%,
Roman Catholic 9.1%, Muslim 6.3%, Sikh 0.3%, other 0.3%, none 0.8% (2007
est.)

Finland (../geos/fi.html)

Lutheran 73.8%, Orthodox 1.1%, other or none 25.1% (2014 est.)

France (../geos/fr.html)

Christian (overwhelmingly Roman Catholic) 63-66%, Muslim 7-9%, Buddhist
0.5-0.75%, Jewish 0.5-0.75%, other 0.5-1.0%, none 23-28%
note: France maintains a tradition of secularism and has not officially collected
data on religious affiliation since the 1872 national census, which complicates
assessments of France's religious composition; an 1872 law prohibiting state
authorities from collecting data on individuals' ethnicity or r eligious beliefs was
reaffirmed by a 1978 law emphasizing the prohibition of the collection or
exploitation of personal data revealing an individual's race, ethnicity, or
political, philosophical, or religious opinions; a 1905 law codified France's
separation of church and state (2015 est.)

French Polynesia
(../geos/fp.html)

Protestant 54%, Roman Catholic 30%, other 10%, no religion 6%

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Gabon (../geos/gb.html)
Gambia, The
(../geos/ga.html)
Gaza Strip
(../geos/gz.html)

Catholic 41.9%, Protestant 13.7%, other Christian 32.4%, Muslim 6.4%, animist
0.3%, other 0.3%, none/no answer 5% (2012 est.)
Muslim 95.7%, Christian 4.2%, none 0.1%, no answer 0.1% (2013 est.)
Muslim 98.0 - 99.0% (predominantly Sunni), Christian <1.0%, other, unaffiliated,
unspecified <1.0%
note: dismantlement of Israeli settlements was completed in September 2005;
Gaza has had no Jewish population since then (2012 est.)

Georgia (../geos/gg.html) Orthodox (official) 83.4%, Muslim 10.7%, Armenian Apostolic 2.9%, other 1.2%
(includes Catholic, Jehovah's Witness, Yazidi, Protestant, Jewish), none 0.5%,
unspecified/no answer 1.2% (2014 est.)
Germany
(../geos/gm.html)
Ghana (../geos/gh.html)

Protestant 34%, Roman Catholic 34%, Muslim 3.7%, unaffiliated or other 28.3%
Christian 71.2% (Pentecostal/Charismatic 28.3%, Protestant 18.4%, Catholic
13.1%, other 11.4%), Muslim 17.6%, traditional 5.2%, other 0.8%, none 5.2%
(2010 est.)

Gibraltar
(../geos/gi.html)

Roman Catholic 78.1%, Church of England 7%, Muslim 4%, other Christian
3.2%, Jewish 2.1%, Hindu 1.8%, other 0.9%, none 2.9% (2001 est.)

Greece (../geos/gr.html)

Greek Orthodox (official) 98%, Muslim 1.3%, other 0.7%

Greenland
Evangelical Lutheran, traditional Inuit spiritual beliefs
(../geos/gl.html)
Grenada (../geos/gj.html) Roman Catholic 44.6%, Protestant 43.5% (includes Anglican 11.5%, Pentecostal
11.3%, Seventh Day Adventist 10.5%, Baptist 2.9%, Church of God 2.6%,
Methodist 1.8%, Evangelical 1.6%, other 1.3%), Jehovah's Witness 1.1%,
Rastafarian 1.1%, other 6.2%, none 3.6%
Guam (../geos/gq.html)
Guatemala
(../geos/gt.html)
Guernsey
(../geos/gk.html)
Guinea-Bissau
(../geos/pu.html)

Roman Catholic 85%, other 15% (1999 est.)
Roman Catholic, Protestant, indigenous Mayan beliefs
Protestant (Anglican, Presbyterian, Baptist, Congregational, Methodist), Roman
Catholic
Muslim 45.1%, Christian 22.1%, animist 14.9%, none 2%, unspecified 15.9%
(2008 est.)

Guinea (../geos/gv.html) Muslim 86.7%, Christian 8.9%, animist/other/none 4.4% (2012 est.)
Guyana (../geos/gy.html) Protestant 30.5% (Pentecostal 16.9%, Anglican 6.9%, Seventh Day Adventist
5%, Methodist 1.7%), Hindu 28.4%, Roman Catholic 8.1%, Muslim 7.2%,
Jehovah's Witness 1.1%, other Christian 17.7%, other 1.9%, none 4.3%,
unspecified 0.9% (2002 est.)
Haiti (../geos/ha.html)

Holy See (Vatican City)
(../geos/vt.html)
Honduras
(../geos/ho.html)
Hong Kong
(../geos/hk.html)

Roman Catholic (official) 54.7%, Protestant 28.5% (Baptist 15.4%, Pentecostal
7.9%, Adventist 3%, Methodist 1.5%, other 0.7%), voodoo (official) 2.1%, other
4.6%, none 10.2%
note: many Haitians practice elements of voodoo in addition to another religion,
most often Roman Catholicism; voodoo was recognized as an official religion in
2003
Roman Catholic
Roman Catholic 97%, Protestant 3%
eclectic mixture of local religions 90%, Christian 10%

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Hungary
(../geos/hu.html)

Roman Catholic 37.2%, Calvinist 11.6%, Lutheran 2.2%, Greek Catholic 1.8%,
other 1.9%, none 18.2%, unspecified 27.2% (2011 est.)

Iceland (../geos/ic.html) Evangelical Lutheran Church of Iceland (official) 73.8%, Roman Catholic 3.6%,
Reykjavik Free Church 2.9%, Hafnarfjorour Free Church 2%, The Independent
Congregation 1%, other religions 3.9% (includes Pentecostal and Asatru
Association), none 5.6%, other or unspecified 7.2% (2015 est.)
India (../geos/in.html)

Hindu 79.8%, Muslim 14.2%, Christian 2.3%, Sikh 1.7%, other and unspecified
2% (2011 est.)

Indonesia
(../geos/id.html)

Muslim 87.2%, Christian 7%, Roman Catholic 2.9%, Hindu 1.7%, other 0.9%
(includes Buddhist and Confucian), unspecified 0.4% (2010 est.)

Iran (../geos/ir.html)

Muslim (official) 99.4% (Shia 90-95%, Sunni 5-10%), other (includes
Zoroastrian, Jewish, and Christian) 0.3%, unspecified 0.4% (2011 est.)

Iraq (../geos/iz.html)

Muslim (official) 99% (Shia 60%-65%, Sunni 32%-37%), Christian 0.8%, Hindu
<0.1, Buddhist <0.1, Jewish <0.1, folk religion <0.1, unafilliated 0.1, other <0.1
note: while there has been voluntary relocation of many Christian families to
northern Iraq, recent reporting indicates that the overall Christian population
may have dropped by as much as 50 percent since the fall of the SADDAM
Husayn regime in 2003, with many fleeing to Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon (2010
est.)

Ireland (../geos/ei.html) Roman Catholic 84.7%, Church of Ireland 2.7%, other Christian 2.7%, Muslim
1.1%, other 1.7%, unspecified 1.5%, none 5.7% (2011 est.)
Isle of Man
(../geos/im.html)

Protestant (Anglican, Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian, Society of Friends),
Roman Catholic

Israel (../geos /is.html)

Jewish 74.8%, Muslim 17.6%, Christian 2%, Druze 1.6%, other 4% (2015 est.)

Italy (../geos/it.html)

Christian 80% (overwhelmingly Roman Catholic with very small groups of
Jehovah's Witnesses and Protestants), Muslim (about 800,000 to 1 million),
atheist and agnostic 20%

Jamaica
(../geos/jm.html)

Protestant 64.8% (includes Seventh Day Adventist 12.0%, Pentecostal 11.0%,
Other Church of God 9.2%, New Testament Church of God 7.2%, Baptist 6.7%,
Church of God in Jamaica 4.8%, Church of God of Prophecy 4.5%, Anglican
2.8%, United Church 2.1%, Methodist 1.6%, Revived 1.4%, Brethren 0.9%, and
Moravian 0.7%), Roman Catholic 2.2%, Jehovah's Witness 1.9%, Rastafarian
1.1%, other 6.5%, none 21.3%, unspecified 2.3% (2011 est.)

Japan (../geos/ja.html)

Shintoism 79.2%, Buddhism 66.8%, Christianity 1.5%, other 7.1%
note: total adherents exceeds 100% because many people practice both
Shintoism and Buddhism (2012 est.)

Jersey (../geos/je.html)

Protestant (Anglican, Baptist, Congregational New Church, Methodist,
Presbyterian), Roman Catholic

Jordan (../geos/jo.html)

Muslim 97.2% (official; predominantly Sunni), Christian 2.2% (majority Greek
Orthodox, but some Greek and Roman Catholics, Syrian Orthodox, Coptic
Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, and Protestant denominations), Buddhist 0.4%,
Hindu 0.1%, Jewish <0.1, folk religionist <0.1, unaffiliated <0.1, other <0.1
(2010 est.)

Kazakhstan
(../geos/kz.html)

Muslim 70.2%, Christian 26.2% (mainly Russian Orthodox), other 0.2%, atheist
2.8%, unspecified 0.5% (2009 est.)

Kenya (../geos/ke.html)

Christian 83% (Protestant 47.7%, Catholic 23.4%, other Christian 11.9%),
Muslim 11.2%, Traditionalists 1.7%, other 1.6%, none 2.4%, unspecified 0.2%
(2009 est.)

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Kiribati (../geos/kr.html) Roman Catholic 55.8%, Kempsville Presbyterian Church 33.5%, Mormon 4.7%,
Baha'i 2.3%, Seventh Day Adventist 2%, other 1.5%, none 0.2%, unspecified
0.05% (2010 est.)
Korea, North
(../geos/kn.html)

traditionally Buddhist and Confucianist, some Christian and syncretic Chondogyo
(Religion of the Heavenly Way)
note: autonomous religious activities now almost nonexistent; governmentsponsored religious groups exist to provide illusion of religious freedom

Korea, South
(../geos/ks.html)

Christian 31.6% (Protestant 24.0%, Catholic 7.6%), Buddhist 24.2%, other or
unknown 0.9%, none 43.3% (2010 est.)

Kosovo (../geos/kv.html) Muslim 95.6%, Roman Catholic 2.2%, Orthodox 1.5%, other 0.07%, none 0.07%,
unspecified 0.6% (2011 est.)
Kuwait (../geos/ku.html) Muslim (official) 76.7%, Christian 17.3%, other and unspecified 5.9%
note: represents the total population; about 69% of the population consists of
immigrants (2013 est.)
Kyrgyzstan
(../geos/kg.html)
L aos (../geos/la.html)
Latvia (../geos/lg.html)

Muslim 75%, Russian Orthodox 20%, other 5%
Buddhist 66.8%, Christian 1.5%, other 31%, unspecified 0.7% (2005 est.)
Lutheran 19.6%, Orthodox 15.3%, other Christian 1%, other 0.4%, unspecified
63.7% (2006)

Lebanon (../geos/le.html) Muslim 54% (27% Sunni, 27% Shia), Christian 40.5% (includes 21% Maronite
Catholic, 8% Greek Orthodox, 5% Greek Catholic, 6.5% other Christian), Druze
5.6%, very small numbers of Jews, Baha'is, Buddhists, Hindus, and Mormons
note: 18 religious sects recognized (2012 est.)
Lesotho (../geos/lt.html) Christian 80%, indigenous beliefs 20%
Liberia (../geos/li.html)

Christian 85.6%, Muslim 12.2%, Traditional 0.6%, other 0.2%, none 1.4% (2008
Census)

Libya (../geos/ly.html)

Muslim (official; virtually all Sunni) 96.6%, Christian 2.7%, Buddhist 0.3%, Hindu
<0.1, Jewish <0.1, folk religion <0.1, unafilliated 0.2%, other <0.1
note: non-Sunni Muslims include native Ibadhi Muslims (<1% of the population)
and foreign Muslims (2010 est.)

Liechtenstein
(../geos/ls.html)

Roman Catholic (official) 75.9%, Protestant Reformed 6.5%, Muslim 5.4%,
Lutheran 1.3%, other 2.9%, none 5.4%, unspecified 2.6% (2010 est.)

Lithuania
(../geos/lh.html)

Roman Catholic 77.2%, Russian Orthodox 4.1%, Old Believer 0.8%, Evangelical
Lutheran 0.6%, Evangelical Reformist 0.2%, other (including Sunni Muslim,
Jewish, Greek Catholic, and Karaite) 0.8%, none 6.1%, unspecified 10.1% (2011
est.)

Luxembourg
(../geos/lu.html)

Roman Catholic 87%, other (includes Protestant, Jewish, and Mus lim) 13%
(2000)

Macau (../geos/mc.html) Buddhist 50%, Roman Catholic 15%, none or other 35% (1997 est.)
Macedonia
(../geos/mk.html)

Macedonian Orthodox 64.8%, Muslim 33.3%, other Christian 0.4%, other and
unspecified 1.5% (2002 est.)

Madagascar
(../geos/ma.html)

Christian, indigenous believer, Muslim
note: population largely practices Christianity or an indigenous religion; small
share of population is Muslim

Malawi (../geos/mi.html) Christian 82.6%, Muslim 13%, other 1.9%, none 2.5% (2008 est.)

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Malaysia
(../geos/my.html)
Maldives
(../geos/mv.html)
Mali (../geos/ml.html)

Muslim (official) 61.3%, Buddhist 19.8%, Christian 9.2%, Hindu 6.3%,
Confucianism, Taoism, other traditional Chinese religions 1.3%, other 0.4%,
none 0.8%, unspecified 1% (2010 est.)
Sunni Muslim (official)
Muslim 94.8%, Christian 2.4%, Animist 2%, none 0.5%, unspecified 0.3% (2009
est.)

Malta (../geos/mt.html)

Roman Catholic (official) more than 90% (2011 est.)

Marshall Islands
(../geos/rm.html)

Protestant 54.8%, Assembly of God 25.8%, Roman Catholic 8.4%, B ukot nan
Jesus 2.8%, Mormon 2.1%, other Christian 3.6%, other 1%, none 1.5% (1999
census)

Mauritania
(../geos/mr.html)
Mauritius
(../geos/mp.html)

Muslim (official) 100%
Hindu 48.5%, Roman Catholic 26.3%, Muslim 17.3%, other Christian 6.4%, other
0.6%, none 0.7%, unspecified 0.1% (2011 est.)

Mexico (../geos/mx.html) Roman Catholic 82.7%, Pentecostal 1.6%, Jehovah's Witness 1.4%, other
Evangelical Churches 5%, other 1.9%, none 4.7%, unspecified 2.7% (2010 est.)
Micronesia, Federated
States of
(../geos/fm.html)

Roman Catholic 54.7%, Protestant 41.1% (includes Congregational 38.5%,
Baptist 1.1%, Seventh Day Adventist 0.8%, Assembly of God 0.7%), Mormon
1.5%, other 1.9%, none 0.7%, unspecified 0.1% (2010 est.)

Moldova
(../geos/md.html)

Orthodox 93.3%, Baptist 1%, other Christian 1.2%, other 0.9%, atheist 0.4%,
none 1%, unspecified 2.2% (2004 est.)

Monaco
(../geos/mn.html)
Mongolia
(../geos/mg.html)

Roman Catholic 90% (official), other 10%
Buddhist 53%, Muslim 3%, Christian 2.2%, Shamanist 2.9%, other 0.4%, none
38.6% (2010 est.)

Montenegro
(../geos/mj.html)

Orthodox 72.1%, Muslim 19.1%, Catholic 3.4%, atheist 1.2%, other 1.5%,
unspecified 2.6% (2011 est.)

Montserrat
(../geos/mh.html)

Protestant 67.1% (includes Anglican 21.8%, Methodist 17%, Pentecostal 14.1%,
Seventh Day Adventist 10.5%, and Church of God 3.7%), Roman Catholic
11.6%, Rastafarian 1.4%, other 6.5%, none 2.6%, unspecified 10.8% (2001 est.)

Morocco
(../geos/mo.html)

Muslim 99% (official; virtually all Sunni, <0.1% Shia), other 1% (includes
Christian, Jewish, and Baha'i); note - Jewish about 6,000 (2010 est.)

Mozambique
(../geos/mz.html)

Roman Catholic 28.4%, Muslim 17.9%, Zionist Christian 15.5%, Protestant
12.2% (includes Pentecostal 10.9% and Anglican 1.3%), other 6.7%, none
18.7%, unspecified 0.7% (2007 est.)

Namibia
(../geos/w a.html)
Nauru (../geos/nr.html)

Christian 80% to 90% (at least 50% Lutheran), indigenous beliefs 10% to 20%
Protestant 60.4% (includes Nauru Congregational 35.7%, Assembly of God 13%,
Nauru Independent Church 9.5%, Baptist 1.5%, and Seventh Day Adventist
0.7%), Roman Catholic 33%, other 3.7%, none 1.8%, unspecified 1.1% (2011
est.)

Nepal (../geos/np.html)

Hindu 81.3%, Buddhist 9%, Muslim 4.4%, Kirant 3.1%, Christian 1.4%, other
0.5%, unspecifed 0.2% (2011 est.)

Netherlands
(../geos/nl.html)

Roman Catholic 28%, Protestant 19% (includes Dutch Reformed 9%, Protestant
Church of The Netherlands, 7%, Calvinist 3%), other 11% (includes about 5%
Muslim and fewer numbers of Hindu, Buddhist, Jehovah's Witness, and
Orthodox), none 42% (2009 est.)

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New Caledonia
(../geos/nc.html)
New Zealand
(../geos/nz.html)

Nicaragua
(../geos/nu.html)

Roman Catholic 60%, Protestant 30%, other 10%
Christian 44.3% (Catholic 11.6%, Anglican 10.8%, Presbyterian and
Congregational 7.8%, Methodist, 2.4%, Pentecostal 1.8%, other 9.9%), Hindu
2.1%, Buddhist 1.4%, Maori Christian 1.3%, Islam 1.1%, other religion 1.4%
(includes Judaism, Spiritualism and New Age religions, Baha'i, Asian religions
other than Buddhism), no religion 38.5%, not stated or unidentified 8.2%,
objected to answering 4.1%
note: based on the 2013 census of the usually resident population; percentages
add up to more than 100% because people were able to identify more than one
religion (2013 est.)
Roman Catholic 58.5%, Protestant 23.2% (Evangelical 21.6%, Moravian 1.6%),
Jehovah's Witnesses 0.9%, other 1.6%, none 15.7% (2005 est.)

Nigeria (../geos/ni.html) Muslim 50%, Christian 40%, indigenous beliefs 10%
Niger (../geos/ng.html)

Muslim 80%, other (includes indigenous beliefs and Christian) 20%

Niue (../geos/ne.html)

Ekalesia Niue (Congregational Christian Church of Niue - a Protestant church
founded by missionaries from the London Missionary Society) 67%, other
Protestant 3% (includes Seventh Day Adventist 1%, Presbyterian 1%, and
Methodist 1%), Mormon 10%, Roman Catholic 10%, Jehovah's Witnesses 2%,
other 6%, none 2% (2011 est.)

Norfolk Island
(../geos/nf.html)

Protestant 49.6% (Anglican 31.8%, Uniting Church in Australia 10.6%, Seventh
Day Adventist 3.2%), Roman Catholic 11.7%, other 8.6%, none 23.5%,
unspecified 6.6% (2011 est.)

Northern Mariana Islands Christian (Roman Catholic majority, although traditional beliefs and taboos may
(../geos/cq.html)
still be found)
Norway (../geos/no.html) Church of Norway (Evangelical Lutheran - official) 82.1%, other Christian 3.9%,
Muslim 2.3%, Roman Catholic 1.8%, other 2.4%, unspecified 7.5% (2011 est.)
Oman (../geos/mu.html)

Muslim (official; majority are Ibadhi, lesser numbers of Sunni and Shia) 85.9%,
Christian 6.5%, Hindu 5.5%, Buddhist 0.8%, Jewish <0.1%, other 1%,
unaffiliated 0.2% (2010 est.)
note: approximately 75% of Omani citizens, who compose almost 70% of the
country's total population, are Ibadhi Muslims; the Omani government does not
keep statistics on religious affiliation (2013)

Pakistan
(../geos/pk.html)

Muslim (official) 96.4% (Sunni 85-90%, Shia 10-15%), other (includes Christian
and Hindu) 3.6% (2010 est.)

Palau (../geos/ps.html)

Roman Catholic 49.4%, Protestant 30.9% (includes Protestant (general) 23.1%,
Seventh Day Adventist 5.3%, and other Protestant 2.5%), Modekngei 8.7%
(indigenous to Palau), Jehovah's Witnesses 1.1%, other 8.8%, none or
unspecified 1.1% (2005 est.)

Panama
(../geos/pm.html)
Papua New Guinea
(../geos/pp.html)

Roman Catholic 85%, Protestant 15%
Roman Catholic 27%, Protestant 69.4% (Evangelical Lutheran 19.5%, United
Church 11.5%, Seventh-Day Adventist 10%, Pentecostal 8.6%, Evangelical
Alliance 5.2%, Anglican 3.2%, Baptist 2.5%, other Protestant 8.9%), Baha'i
0.3%, indigenous beliefs and other 3.3% (2000 census)

Paraguay
(../geos/pa.html)

Roman Catholic 89.6%, Protestant 6.2%, other Christian 1.1%, other or
unspecified 1.9%, none 1.1% (2002 census)

Peru (../geos/pe.html)

Roman Catholic 81.3%, Evangelical 12.5%, other 3.3%, none 2.9% (2007 est.)

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Philippines
(../geos/rp.html)
Pitcairn Is lands
(../geos/pc.html)
Poland (../geos/pl.html)

Portugal
(../geos/po.html)
Puerto Rico
(../geos/rq.html)
Qatar (../geos/qa.html)

Catholic 82.9% (Roman Catholic 80.9%, Aglipayan 2%), Muslim 5%, Evangelical
2.8%, Iglesia ni Kristo 2.3%, other Christian 4.5%, other 1.8%, unspecified
0.6%, none 0.1% (2000 census)
Seventh-Day Adventist 100%
Catholic 87.2% (includes Roman Catholic 86.9% and Greek Catholic, Armenian
Catholic, and Byzantine-Slavic Catholic .3%), Orthodox 1.3% (almost all are
Polish Autocephalous Orthodox), Protestant 0.4% (mainly Augsburg Evangelical
and Pentacostal), other 0.4% (includes Jehovah's Witness, Buddhist, Hare
Krishna, Gaudiya Vaishnavism, Muslim, Jewish, Mormon), unspecified 10.8%
(2012 est.)
Roman Catholic 81%, other Chris tian 3.3%, other (includes Jewish, Muslim,
other) 0.6%, none 6.8%, unspecified 8.3%
note: represents population 15 years of age and older (2011 est.)
Roman Catholic 85%, Protestant and other 15%
Muslim 77.5%, Christian 8.5%, other (includes mainly Hindu and other Indian
religions) 14% (2004 est.)

Romania
(../geos/ro.html)

Eastern Orthodox (including all sub-denominations) 81.9%, Protestant (various
denominations including Reformed and Pentecostal) 6.4%, Roman Catholic
4.3%, other (includes Muslim) 0.9%, none or atheist 0.2%, unspecified 6.3%
(2011 est.)

Russia (../geos/rs.html)

Russian Orthodox 15-20%, Muslim 10-15%, other Christian 2% (2006 est.)
note: estimates are of practicing worshipers; Russia has large populations of
non-practicing believers and non-believers, a legacy of over seven decades of
Soviet rule; Russia officially recognizes Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism ,
and Buddhism as traditional religions

Rw anda (../geos/rw.html) Roman Catholic 49.5%, Protestant 39.4% (includes Adventist 12.2% and other
Protestant 27.2%), other Christian 4.5%, Muslim 1.8%, animist 0.1%, other
0.6%, none 3.6% (2001), unspecified 0.5% (2002 est.)
Saint Barthelemy
(../geos/tb.html)
Saint Helena, Ascension,
and Tristan da Cunha
(../geos/sh.html)

Saint Kitts and Nevis
(../geos/sc.html)
Saint Lucia
(../geos/st.html)

Saint Martin
(../geos/rn.html)
Saint Pierre and Miquelon
(../geos/sb.html)
Saint Vincent and the
Grenadines
(../geos/vc.html)

Roman Catholic, Protestant, Jehovah's Witnesses
Protestant 75.9% (includes Anglican 68.9, Baptist 2.1%, Seventh Day Adventist
1.8%, Salvation Army 1.7%, New Apostolic 1.4%), Jehovah's Witness 4.1%,
Roman Catholic 1.2%, other 2.5% (includes Baha'i), unspecified 0.8%, none
6.1%, no response 9.4%
note: data represent Saint Helena only (2016 est.)
Anglican, other Protestant, Roman Catholic
Roman Catholic 61.5%, Protestant 25.5% (includes Seventh Day Adventist
10.4%, Pentecostal 8.9%, Baptist 2.2%, Anglican 1.6%, Church of God 1.5%,
other Protestant 0.9%), other Christian 3.4% (includes Evangelical 2.3% and
Jehovah's Witness 1.1%), Rastafarian 1.9%, other 0.4%, none 5.9%, unspecified
1.4% (2010 est.)
Roman Catholic, Jehovah's Witnesses, Protestant, Hindu
Roman Catholic 99%, other 1%
Protestant 75% (Anglican 47%, Methodist 28%), Roman Catholic 13%, other
(includes Hindu, Seventh-Day Adventist, other Protestant) 12%

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Samoa (../geos/w s.html) Protestant 57.4% (Congregationalist 31.8%, Methodist 13.7%, Assembly of God
8%, Seventh-Day Adventist 3.9%), Roman Catholic 19.4%, Mormon 15.2%,
Worship Centre 1.7%, other Christian 5.5%, other 0.7%, none 0.1%, unspecified
0.1% (2011 est.)
San Marino
(../geos/sm.html)
Sao Tome and Principe
(../geos/tp.html)
Saudi Arabia
(../geos/sa.html)

Roman Catholic
Catholic 55.7%, Adventist 4.1%, Assembly of God 3.4%, New Apostolic 2.9%,
Mana 2.3%, Universal Kingdom of God 2%, Jehovah's Witness 1.2%, other 6.2%,
none 21.2%, unspecified 1% (2012 est.)
Muslim (official; citizens are 85-90% Sunni and 10-15% Shia), other (includes
Eastern Orthodox, Protestant, Roman Catholic, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, and
Sikh) (2012 est.)
note: despite having a large expatriate community of various faiths ( more than
30% of the population), most forms of public religious expression inconsistent
with the government-sanctioned interpretation of Sunni Islam are restricted; nonMuslims are not allowed to have Saudi citizenship and non-Muslim places of
worship are not permitted (2013)

Senegal (../geos/sg.html) Muslim 95.4% (most adhere to one of the four main Sufi brotherhoods), Christian
4.2% (mostly Roman Catholic), animist 0.4% (2010-11 est.)
Serbia (../geos/ri.html)

Serbian Orthodox 84.6%, Catholic 5%, Muslim 3.1%, Protestant 1%, atheist
1.1%, other 0.8%, undeclared or unknown 4.5% (2011 est.)

Seychelles
(../geos/se.html)

Roman Catholic 76.2%, Protestant 10.6% (Anglican 6.1%, Pentecoastal
Assembly 1.5%, Seventh-Day Adventist 1.2%, other Protestant 1.6), other
Christian 2.4%, Hindu 2.4%, Muslim 1.6%, other non-Christian 1.1%, unspecified
4.8%, none 0.9% (2010 est.)

Sierra Leone
(../geos/sl.html)
Singapore
(../geos/sn.html)
Sint Maarten
(../geos/sk.html)

Muslim 60%, Christian 10%, indigenous beliefs 30%
Buddhist 33.9%, Muslim 14.3%, Taoist 11.3%, Catholic 7.1%, Hindu 5.2%, other
Christian 11%, other 0.7%, none 16.4% (2010 est.)
Protestant 41.9% (Pentecostal 14.7%, Methodist 10.0%, Seventh Day Adventist
6.6%, Baptist 4.7%, Anglican 3.1%, other Protestant 2.8%), Roman Catholic
33.1%, Hindu 5.2%, Christian 4.1%, Jehovah's Witness 1.7%, Evangelical 1.4%,
Muslim/Jewish 1.1%, other 1.3% (includes Buddhist, Sikh, Rastafarian), none
7.9%, no response 2.4% (2011 est.)

Slovakia (../geos/lo.html) Roman Catholic 62%, Protestant 8.2%, Greek Catholic 3.8%, other or
unspecified 12.5%, none 13.4% (2011 est.)
Slovenia (../geos/si.html) Catholic 57.8%, Muslim 2.4%, Orthodox 2.3%, other Christian 0.9%, unaffiliated
3.5%, other or unspecified 23%, none 10.1% (2002 census)
Solomon Islands
(../geos/bp.html)

Protestant 73.4% (Church of Melanesia 31.9%, South Sea Evangelical 17.1%,
Seventh Day Adventist 11.7%, United Church 10.1%, Christian Fellowship
Church 2.5%), Roman Catholic 19.6%, other Christian 2.9%, other 4%, none
0.03%, unspecified 0.1% (2009 est.)

Somalia (../geos/so.html) Sunni Muslim (Islam) (official, according to the Transitional Federal Charter)
South Africa
(../geos/sf.html)

South Sudan
(../geos/od.html)
Spain (../geos /sp.html)

Protestant 36.6% (Zionist Christian 11.1%, Pentecostal/Charismatic 8.2%,
Methodist 6.8%, Dutch Reformed 6.7%, Anglican 3.8%), Catholic 7.1%, Muslim
1.5%, other Christian 36%, other 2.3%, unspecified 1.4%, none 15.1% (2001
census)
animist, Christian
Roman Catholic 94%, other 6%

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Sri Lanka
(../geos/ce.html)

Buddhist (official) 70.2%, Hindu 12.6%, Muslim 9.7%, Roman Catholic 6.1%,
other Christian 1.3%, other 0.05% (2012 est.)

Sudan (../geos/su.html)

Sunni Muslim, small Christian minority

Suriname
(../geos/ns.html)

Hindu 27.4%, Protestant 25.2% (predominantly Moravian), Roman Catholic
22.8%, Muslim 19.6%, indigenous beliefs 5%

Swaziland
(../geos/w z.html)

Zionist 40% (a blend of Christianity and indigenous ancestral worship), Roman
Catholic 20%, Muslim 10%, other 30% (includes Anglican, Baha'i, Methodist,
Mormon, Jewish)

Sweden
(../geos/sw .html)

Lutheran 87%, other (includes Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Muslim,
Jewish, and Buddhist) 13%

Switzerland
(../geos/sz.html)

Roman Catholic 38.2%, Protestant 26.9%, other Christian 5.6%, Muslim 5%,
other 1.6%, none 21.4%, unspecified 1.3% (2013 est.)

Syria (../geos/sy.html)

Muslim 87% (official; includes Sunni 74% and Alawi, Ismaili, and Shia 13%),
Christian 10% (includes Orthodox, Uniate, and Nestorian), Druze 3%, Jewish
(few remaining in Damascus and Aleppo)

Taiwan (../geos/tw.html) mixture of Buddhist and Taoist 93%, Christian 4.5%, other 2.5%
Tajikistan
(../geos/ti.html)
Tanzania
(../geos/tz.html)

Sunni Muslim 85%, Shia Muslim 5%, other 10% (2003 est.)
Christian 61.4%, Muslim 35.2%, folk religion 1.8%, other 0.2%, unaffiliated 1.4%
note: Zanzibar is almost entirely Muslim (2010 est.)

Thailand
(../geos/th.html)

Buddhist (official) 93.6%, Muslim 4.9%, Christian 1.2%, other 0.2%, none 0.1%
(2010 est.)

Timor-Leste
(../geos/tt.html)

Roman Catholic 96.9%, Protestant/Evangelical 2.2%, Muslim 0.3%, other 0.6%
(2005)

Togo (../geos/to.html)

Christian 29%, Muslim 20%, indigenous beliefs 51%

Tokelau (../geos/tl.html) Congregational Christian Church 58.2%, Roman Catholic 36.6%, Pr esbyterian
1.8%, other Christian 2.8%, Spiritualism and New Age 0.1%, unspecified 0.5%
(2011 est.)
Tonga (../geos/tn.html)

Protestant 64.9% (includes Free Wesleyan Church 37.3%, Free Church of Tonga
11.4%, Church of Tonga 7.2%, Tokaikolo Christian Church 2.6%, Assembly of
God 2.3%, Seventh Day Adventist 2.2%, Constitutional Church of Tonga 0.9%,
Anglican 0.8% and Full Gospel Church 0.2%), Mormon 16.8%, Roman Catholic
15.6%, other 1.1%, none 0.03%, unspecified 1.7% (2006 est.)

Trinidad and Tobago
(../geos/td.html)

Protestant 32.1% (Pentecostal/Evangelical/Full Gospel 12%, Baptist 6.9%,
Anglican 5.7%, Seventh-Day Adventist 4.1%, Presbyterian/Congretational 2.5%,
other Protestant 0.9%), Roman Catholic 21.6%, Hindu 18.2%, Muslim 5%,
Jehovah's Witness 1.5%, other 8.4%, none 2.2%, unspecified 11.1% (2011 est.)

Tunisia (../geos/ts.html) Muslim (official; Sunni) 99.1%, other (includes Christian, Jewish, Shia Muslim,
and Baha'i) 1%
Turkey (../geos/tu.html)
Turkmenistan
(../geos/tx.html)
Turks and Caicos Islands
(../geos/tk.html)
Tuvalu (../geos/tv.html)

Muslim 99.8% (mostly Sunni), other 0.2% (mostly Christians and Jews)
Muslim 89%, Eastern Orthodox 9%, unknown 2%
Protestant 72.8% (Baptist 35.8%, Church of God 11.7%, Anglican 10%,
Methodist 9.3%, Seventh-Day Adventist 6%), Roman Catholic 11.4%, Jehovah's
Witnesses 1.8%, other 14%
Protestant 98.4% (Church of Tuvalu (Congregationalist) 97%, Seventh-Day
Adventist 1.4%), Baha'i 1%, other 0.6%

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U ganda (../geos/ug.html) Protestant 45.1% (Anglican 32.0%, Pentecostal/Born Again/Evangelical 11.1%,
Seventh Day Adventist 1.7%, Baptist .3%), Roman Catholic 39.3%, Muslim
13.7%, other 1.6%, none 0.2% (2014 est.)
Ukraine (../geos/up.html) Orthodox (includes Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox (UAOC), Ukrainian
Orthodox - Kyiv Patriarchate (UOC-KP), Ukrainian Orthodox - Moscow
Patriarchate (UOC-MP), Ukrainian Greek Catholic, Roman Catholic, Protestant,
Muslim, Jewish
note: Ukraine's population is overwhelmingly Christian; the vast majority - up to
two-thirds - identify themselves as Orthodox, but many do not specify a
particular branch; the UOC-KP and the UOC-MP each represent less than a
quarter of the country's population, the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church
accounts for 8-10%, and the UAOC accounts for 1-2%; Muslim and Jewish
adherents each compose less than 1% of the total population (2013 est.)
U nited Arab Emirates
(../geos/ae.html)

Muslim (official) 76%, Christian 9%, other (primarily Hindu and Buddhist, less
than 5% of the population consists of Parsi, Baha'i, Druze, Sik h, Ahmadi,
Ismaili, Dawoodi Bohra Muslim, and Jewish) 15%
note: represents the total population; about 85% of the population consists of
noncitizens (2005 est.)

U nited Kingdom
(../geos/uk.html)

Christian (includes Anglican, Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist) 59.5%,
Muslim 4.4%, Hindu 1.3%, other 2%, unspecified 7.2%, none 25.7% (2011 est.)

U nited States
(../geos/us.html)

Protestant 46.5%, Roman Catholic 20.8%, Mormon 1.6%, Jehovah's Witness
0.8%, other Christian 0.9%, Jewish 1.9%, Muslim 0.9%, Buddhist 0.7%, Hindu
0.7%, other 1.8%, unaffiliated 22.8%, don't know/refused 0.6% (2014 est.)

Uruguay
(../geos/uy.html)

Roman Catholic 47.1%, non-Catholic Christians 11.1%, nondenominational
23.2%, Jewish 0.3%, atheist or agnostic 17.2%, other 1.1% (2006)

Uzbekistan
(../geos/uz.html)
Vanuatu
(../geos/nh.html)

Venezuela
(../geos/ve.html)
Vietnam
(../geos/vm.html)
Virgin Islands
(../geos/vq.html)
Wallis and Futuna
(../geos/w f.html)
West Bank
(../geos/w e.html)

Western Sahara
(../geos/w i.html)
World (../geos/xx.html)

Muslim 88% (mostly Sunni), Eastern Orthodox 9%, other 3%
Protestant 70% (includes Presbyterian 27.9%, Anglican 15.1%, Seventh Day
Adventist 12.5%, Assemblies of God 4.7%, Church of Christ 4.5%, Neil Thomas
Ministry 3.1%, and Apostolic 2.2%), Roman Catholic 12.4%, customary beliefs
3.7% (including Jon Frum cargo cult), other 12.6%, none 1.1%, unspecified 0.2%
(2009 est.)
nominally Roman Catholic 96%, Protestant 2%, other 2%
Buddhist 7.9%, Catholic 6.6%, Hoa Hao 1.7%, Cao Dai 0.9%, Protestant 0.9%,
Muslim 0.1%, none 81.8% (2009 est.)
Protestant 59% (Baptist 42%, Episcopalian 17%), Roman Catholic 34%, other
7%
Roman Catholic 99%, other 1%
Muslim 80-85% (predominantly Sunni), Jewish 12-14%, Christian 1-2.5% (mainly
Greek Orthodox), other, unaffiliated, unspecified <1%
note: the proportion of Christians continues to fall mainly as a result of the
growth of the Muslim population but also because of migration and the declining
birth rate of the Christian population (2012 est.)
Muslim
Christian 31.4%, Muslim 23.2%, Hindu 15%, Buddhist 7.1%, folk religions 5.9%,
Jewish 0.2%, other 0.8%, unaffiliated 16.4% (2010 est.)

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Yemen (../geos/ym.html) Muslim 99.1% (official; virtually all are citizens, an estimated 65% are Sunni and
35% are Shia), other 0.9% (includes Jewish, Baha'i, Hindu, and Christian; many
are refugees or temporary foreign residents) (2010 est.)
Zambia (../geos/za.html) Protestant 75.3%, Roman Catholic 20.2%, other 2.7% (includes Muslim
Buddhist, Hindu, and Baha'i), none 1.8% (2010 est.)
Zimbabwe
(../geos/zi.html)

Protestant 75.9% (includes Apostolic 38%, Pentecostal 21.1%, other 16.8%),
Roman Catholic 8.4%, other Christian 8.4%, other 1.2% (includes traditional,
Muslim), none 6.1% (2011 est.)

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In an exclusive interview with The Brody File, President Donald Trump says persecuted
Christians will be given priority when it comes to applying for refugee status in the United States.
“We are going to help them,” President Trump tells CBN News. “They’ve been horribly treated.
Do you know if you were a Christian in Syria it was impossible, at least very tough to get into the
United States? If you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost
impossible and the reason that was so unfair, everybody was persecuted in all fairness, but they
were chopping off the heads of everybody but more so the Christians. And I thought it was very,
very unfair.”

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The Brody File conducted the interview Friday morning in the Blue Room at The White House.
More newsworthy clips are coming soon. The entire interview can be seen this Sunday at 11pm
on Freeform (cable TV, formerly ABC Family Channel) during our special CBN News show.
This is just the third interview President Trump has done from The White House and it will be the
only interview that will air in its’ entirety this weekend.
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DAVID BRODY: “Persecuted Christians, we’ve talked about this, the refugees overseas. The
refugee program, or the refugee changes you’re looking to make. As it relates to persecuted
Christians, do you see them as kind of a priority here?”
PRESIDENT TRUMP: “Yes.”
DAVID BRODY: “You do?”
PRESIDENT TRUMP: “They’ve been horribly treated. Do you know if you were a Christian in
Syria it was impossible, at least very tough to get into the United States? If you were a Muslim
you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible and the reason that was
so unfair, everybody was persecuted in all fairness, but they were chopping off the heads of
everybody but more so the Christians. And I thought it was very, very unfair. So we are going to
help them.”

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Christian persecution is running at about 100,000 deaths per month. I'm so glad that
our President is cognizant of this and willing to alleviate some of the pain and
suffering of these people.
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Our President Donald Trump is doing his Christian duty by banning terrorists Muslims
and illegals into the USA that want to promote Sharia laws upon us and terrorize this
country. Isis and Hamas chop off the heads of their own people if they are found to
be worshipping the GOD OF ISRAEL, our GOD, KING JESUS. This has to be
stopped before they completely destroy the entire USA and all Christians and Jews,
including ISRAEL. The Muslim religion is a hate religion unlike our Judea,
Christianity. We love all people of every race and don't kill to please our GOD. Our
GOD died, shed HIS innocent blood as the final Lamb of GOD sacrifice and was
resurrected to save us from our sins.
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Exhibit T

Trump signs order limiting refugee entry, says he will prioritize Christian refugees - The ...

Acts of Faith

Trump signs order
limiting refugee entry,
says he will prioritize
Christian refugees
By Sarah Pulliam Bailey January 27

President Trump signed an executive order Friday instituting “extreme vetting” of refugees, aimed at keeping
out “radical Islamic terrorists.”
“I’m establishing a new vetting measure to keep radical Islamic terrorists out of the United States of
America,” Trump said during his signing of the order. “We don’t want them here. We want to make sure we
are not admitting into our country the very threats our soldiers are fighting overseas.”
According to drafts of the executive action, the order bars people from the Muslim-majority countries of Iraq,
Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen from entering the United States for 30 days and suspends the
U.S. Refugee Admissions Program for 120 days. The program will be reinstated “only for nationals of
countries for whom” members are vetted by Trump’s administration.
In an interview Friday with the Christian Broadcast Network, Trump said he plans to help persecuted
Christians.
“Do you know if you were a Christian in Syria it was impossible, at least very tough, to get into the United
States?” Trump said. “If you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost
impossible and the reason that was so unfair, everybody was persecuted in all fairness, but they were
chopping off the heads of everybody but more so the Christians. And I thought it was very, very unfair.”

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In a statement, the American Civil Liberties Union declared Trump’s action “just a euphemism for
discrimination against Muslims.”
From both legal and historical perspectives, the plan to ban refugees from specific countries is within the
powers granted to the president under current law and historical precedent, according to Charles Haynes,
vice president of the Newseum Institute’s Religious Freedom Center. However, whether the president can
limit the ban to one religious group is another question.
Many Muslims, especially Shiites, are among the religious minorities under attack, Haynes said. This “raises
moral and humanitarian concerns about excluding them from entrance to the U.S. while permitting people of
other faiths,” he said. “Whether this policy rises to the level of a constitutional violation is uncertain and will
be debated by constitutional scholars in the coming weeks.”
Issues related to the Constitution and religion are usually associated with matters of sex, such as
contraceptives and LGBT discrimination, but some observers said they expect Trump’s actions on
immigration to raise new challenges for religious freedom, according to Chelsea Langston Bombino of the
Institutional Religious Freedom Alliance at the Center for Public Justice. Several organizations, she noted,
are speaking out against orders that “will hurt the very people that their organizations were established, out
of a religious calling, to serve,” she said.
Trump’s actions have been decried by several religious groups this week. “The expected cutbacks to U.S.
refugee programs and funding will compromise our ability to do this work and the infrastructure needed to
serve refugees in the years to come,” evangelical ministry World Relief said in a statement.

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And in a strongly worded statement, Rabbi Jack Moline, the Interfaith Alliance president, noted that
this decision was announced on International Holocaust Remembrance Day.
“For decades, the United States has prided itself as a safe bastion for refugees around the globe escaping war
and persecution,” he said. “President Trump is poised to trample upon that great legacy with a de facto
Muslim ban.”
The Council on American-Islamic Relations will on Monday announce a federal lawsuit on behalf of more
than 20 people challenging the constitutionality of the executive order.

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“There is no evidence that refugees – the most thoroughly vetted of all people entering our nation – are a
threat to national security,” said CAIR national litigation director Lena F. Masri. “This is an order that is
based on bigotry, not reality.”
This post has been updated.

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Exhibit U

​Donald J. Trump Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration | Donald J Trump for President

- DECEMBER 07, 2015 -

DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON
PREVENTING MUSLIM
IMMIGRATION
(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling

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STATEMENTS
ANNOUNCEMENTS

for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United
States until our country's representatives can fgure out what is
going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great
hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim

ENDORSEMENTS
ADS

population. Mos recently, a poll from the Center for Security
Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that
violence agains Americans here in the United States is jusifed as
a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that
Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed

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according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder
agains non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more
unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially

NOVEMBER 2016

women.

OCTOBER 2016

Mr. Trump sated, "Without looking at the various polling data, it is

SEPTEMBER 2016

obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where
this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we
are able to determine and undersand this problem and the
dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of
horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have

AUGUST 2016
JULY 2016
JUNE 2016

no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for
President, we are going to Make America Great Again." - Donald J.
Trump

MAY 2016
APRIL 2016
MARCH 2016

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Exhibit W

Trump calls for 'total and complete shutdown of Muslims..., 2015 WLNR 36216212

12/7/15 WashingtonPost.com (Pg. Unavail. Online)
2015 WLNR 36216212
WashingtonPost.com
Copyright (c) 2015 The Washington Post
December 7, 2015
Section: post-politics
Trump calls for 'total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States'
"We have no choice. We have no choice," Trump said Monday. "We have no choice."
Jenna Johnson
Updated at 7:43 p.m.
Donald Trump called Monday for a "total and complete shutdown" of the entry of Muslims to the United States "until
our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."
In a statement released by his campaign Monday afternoon, Trump included recent poll findings that he says show that
a sizable segment of the Muslim population has "great hatred towards Americans."
"Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension," Trump
is quoted as saying in the statement. "Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are
able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of
horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life."
At a rally in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina on Monday evening, Trump pointed to the statement he released earlier
in the day.
"Should I read you the statement?" he asked.
The crowd enthusiastically agreed that he should.
"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's
representatives can figure out what the hell is going on," he said, adding the word "hell" for emphasis this time.
Supporters erupted in applause.
"We have no choice. We have no choice," Trump said. "We have no choice."
Earlier in the rally, which was interrupted by protests, Trump said, "I have friends that are Muslims. They are great
people -- but they know we have a problem."

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Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told the Associated Press that the ban would apply to "everybody,"
including both immigrants and tourists. Soon after the statement was released, Trump tweeted that he had "just put out
a very important policy statement on the extraordinary influx of hatred and danger coming into our country." He added
in the tweet: "We must be vigilant!"
In an interview on Fox News Channel shortly ahead of his campaign rally, Trump was asked whether his policy would
apply to Muslim military personnel stationed overseas who want to come home.
"They will come home. We have to be vigilant," he responded. "We have to take care of the Muslims that are living here.
But we have to be vigilant."
He later added: "Anybody here stays, but we have to be very vigilant... This does not apply to people living in the country
except that we have to be vigilant."
In the past month, particularly following the recent mass shooting in Southern California that is believed to have been
inspired by the Islamic State terrorist group, Trump has called for greater scrutiny of Muslims -- including Muslim
Americans who are legal residents of the country. He has said he would support heavy surveillance of mosques, bar
Syrian refugees of all religions from entering the country and would consider establishing a database to track all Muslims
in the country. But Trump's statement on Monday was his most controversial proposal yet.
Trump typically announces major positions like this in media interviews or at rallies, rarely issuing formal statements.
The statement immediately sparked rounds of questions about how such a policy would work, along with strong criticism.
"Oh, my goodness," said Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director at the Council on American-Islamic
Relations. "One has to wonder what Donald Trump will say next as he ramps up his anti-Muslim bigotry. Where is there
left for him to go? Are we talking internment camps? Are we talking the final solution to the Muslim question? I feel
like I'm back in the 1930s."
What worried Hooper, he said, was the premeditated nature of Trump's statement.
"He feels perfectly okay saying this," said Hooper. "It's not an open mic moment, where he has to walk something back.
This was a statement from his campaign. They had to believe that this would be well received by his supporters. We've
always had anti-Muslim bigots, but they've always been at the fringes of society. Now they want to lead it. In saner times,
his campaign would be over. In insane times, his campaign can gain support. And that's why he put it out."
David Weigel and Sean Sullivan contributed to this report.

---- Index References ---News Subject: (Civil Rights Law (1CI34); Intellectual Freedoms & Civil Liberties (1IN08); International Terrorism
(1IN37); Legal (1LE33); Minority & Ethnic Groups (1MI43); Race Relations (1RA49); Social Issues (1SO05); Top
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Region: (Americas (1AM92); North America (1NO39))

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Language: EN
Other Indexing: (Donald Trump; Ibrahim Hooper; David Weigel; Sean Sullivan; Donald Trump; Corey Lewandowski)
Word Count: 719
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Exhibit X

nbcnews.com

MEET THE PRESS JUL 24 2016, 11:47 AM ET

Meet the Press - July 24, 2016
Meet the Press - July 24, 2016
CHUCK TODD:
This Sunday, the Democratic National Convention gets underway here in Philadelphia, after a raucous and unpredictable Republican
convention. That ended with the nomination of Donald Trump.
DONALD TRUMP:
I am with you, I will fight for you, and I will win for you.
CHUCK TODD:
This morning, my sit-down with Donald Trump on his convention speech.
DONALD TRUMP:
The only negative reviews were a little dark.
CHUCK TODD:
On whether he's backing off on his Muslim band.
DONALD TRUMP:
I actually don't think it's a pull-back. In fact, you could say it's an expansion.
CHUCK TODD:
And on Hillary Clinton's choice of Tim Kaine.
DONALD TRUMP:
Tim Kaine was a slap in the face to Bernie Sanders.
CHUCK TODD:
Plus Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine hit the road in Florida.
HILLARY CLINTON:
Tim Kaine is everything Donald Trump and Mike Pence are not.
CHUCK TODD:
But some Bernie Sanders supporters are criticizing the Kaine pick as a sellout to moderates. I'll talk to Sanders and get his reaction to
that and to the DNC Wikileaks e-mail release. Joining me for insight and analysis are MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, former chairman of
the RNC, Michael Steele, NBC News Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent, Andrea Mitchell, and host of Hardball and Philadelphia
hometown boy, Chris Matthews. Trump, Sanders and reactions to the new Democratic ticket. Welcome to Sunday, in a special edition
of Meet the Press at the Democratic National Convention.
CHUCK TODD:
Good Sunday morning. We are at the Wells Fargo Center here in South Philadelphia, home of the NBA 76ers and the NHL Broad
Street Bullies, the Fliers. Democrats have begun to arrive, along with a pretty bad heat wave. And beginning tomorrow, they will gather
to officially nominate Hillary Clinton as their presidential candidate.

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nbcnews.com

Yesterday in Miami, Clinton was joined by her new running mate, Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, in an upbeat event that was notable
simply by the contrast to the disorganized rollout of Donald Trump's running mate a week earlier, Mike Pence.
(BEGIN TAPE)
SEN. TIM KAINE:
Hillary Clinton, she doesn't insult people, she listens to them. What a novel concept, right? She doesn't trash our allies, she respects
them. And she'll always have our backs, that is something I am rock solid sure of.
(END TAPE)
CHUCK TODD:
We will get to reaction to the new Democratic ticket later in the show, including my interview with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont
in a moment. But first, we're going to talk also about Sanders, about those Wikileaks emails and what they may say about DNC
favoritism towards Hillary Clinton. But we begin with the man who has now taken control of the Republican Party. It's nominee Donald
Trump.
I traveled to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, sort of his weekend getaway, last night for a face-to-face interview
since dropping the word "presumptive," it's his first one, from the nominee title. We touched on so much: Tim Kaine, Trump's tax
returns, his proposed restrictions on Muslim immigration and why he says he alone can fix the country's problems. But I began by
asking him how it feels to be the Republican nominee for president of the United States.
(BEGIN TAPE)
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, it really feels great. And we really have a very unified party, other than a very small group of people that, frankly, lost. And we
have a very unified party. You saw that the other night with the love in the room, and the enthusiasm in the room. The enthusiasm,
there are people that say they have never seen anything like what was going on in that room, especially Thursday night.
CHUCK TODD:
Let me tell you, you bring up Thursday night, I've got to ask you about your entrance. Before we get serious here. That Monday night
entrance was something else. I know you've gotten a lot of feedback on it. How'd you come up with it?
DONALD TRUMP:
I think I'm a little bit lucky, and a couple of people had that idea and I went along with the idea. And everything just worked right. And it
was so good that they wanted to do it on Thursday night. I said, "Never in a million years, because you'll never get it that way again."
CHUCK TODD:
I don't think I've seen that even on WWE.
DONALD TRUMP:
Yeah, I know. Well, Vince is a good friend of mine. He called me, he said, "That was a very, very good entrance." But I didn't want to
do it a second time, because, you know, it never works out the second time.
CHUCK TODD:
All right, let's go into the speech. I want to put some meat on the bones. But first, let's talk about, you've seen some of the positive
reviews, some of the negative reviews. Some of the negative has been that it was a little dark-DONALD TRUMP:
That's the only thing that--

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CHUCK TODD:
--that there wasn't enough optimism in it. What would you say? It's not Morning in America.
DONALD TRUMP:
Yeah.
CHUCK TODD:
What would you say to that?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, I think the only negativity, and, you know, the hate, I call them the haters, and that's fine. But the only negative reviews were, "A
little dark." And the following day, they had another attack, and then today you see what happened in Afghanistan with many, many
people killed.
They have no idea how many, so many killed. Yesterday it was Munich. And you know, I know they're saying, "Maybe it wasn't
terrorism. Maybe it was just a crazy guy." But in the meantime he's screaming, "Allahu Akbar," as he's shooting people, so, you know,
we'll see how that turns out. And all of a sudden people are saying, "Maybe it wasn't dark at all." But the only thing that some people
said, "It was a little dark. It was a little bit tough."
CHUCK TODD:
Do you think it was a little dark?
DONALD TRUMP:
No, oh, I thought it was very optimistic. To me, it was an optimistic speech, because-CHUCK TODD:
What makes it optimistic in your view?
DONALD TRUMP:
Because we're going to stop the problems. We're going to stop the problems. In other words, sure, I talk about the problems, but we're
going to solve the problems.
CHUCK TODD:
One of the phrases you used, "I alone can fix it." And to some people, that sounded almost too strong-mannish for them. Do you
understand that criticism and what do you make of it?
DONALD TRUMP:
I'll tell you, part of it was I'm comparing myself to Hillary. And we know Hillary, and we look at her record. Her record has been a
disaster. And I am running against Hillary. It's not like I'm running against the rest of the world. I know people that are very, very
capable that could do a very good job, but they could never get elected.
I can tell you right now. I can give you ten names of people that would do an extraordinary job, but there's no way they could ever get
elected. They wouldn't know where to begin. It wouldn't be for them. But for governing, they would be good. I'm running and, you
know, against one person.
CHUCK TODD:
You said there would be consequences for any company that tried to move a factory out. What-DONALD TRUMP:

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Absolutely, so simple-CHUCK TODD:
--what is the consequence? Let's start with, you bring up Carrier a lot.
DONALD TRUMP:
It's so simple-(OVERTALK)
CHUCK TODD:
Right, I understand that. But explain the consequences-DONALD TRUMP:
Okay, here's the consequence-CHUCK TODD:
What would it be?
DONALD TRUMP:
So Carrier comes in, they announce they're moving to Mexico, they fire all their people in Indiana, and they say, "Hi, well, here we are
in Mexico, you know, enjoy your plant, enjoy the rest of your life," and you hire people from Mexico, okay? Now they make their
product and they put it into the United States.
Well, we will have a very strong border, by the way, but they put it into the United States and we don't charge them tax. There will be a
tax to be paid. If they're going to fire all their people, move their plant to Mexico, build air conditioners, and think they're going to sell
those air conditioners to the United States, there's going to be a tax.
CHUCK TODD:
What kind of tax are you thinking?
DONALD TRUMP:
It could be 25 percent. It could be 35 percent. It could be 15 percent. I haven't determined. And it could be different for different
companies. We have been working on trying to stop this government, because we don't know what we're doing. And not only Obama,
they've been trying to stop this from before Obama. But they don't know. You know, they've done, they've tried lower interest loans,
they've tried zero interest loans, these guys-CHUCK TODD:
Well, some of these things aren't going to get through the World Trade Organization. There's-DONALD TRUMP:
It doesn't matter. Then we're going to renegotiate or we're going to pull out. These trade deals are a disaster, Chuck. World Trade
Organization is a disaster.
CHUCK TODD:
You know the concern on some of this-DONALD TRUMP:
NAFTA is a disaster--

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CHUCK TODD:
-- is that it would rattle the world economy. Look what Brexit did to the world economy. Investors got rattled.
DONALD TRUMP:
What did it do? What did it do?
CHUCK TODD:
Now you-DONALD TRUMP:
The stock market's higher now than it was when it happened. And by the way, I'm the only one of all of these people at the higher level
of the wonderful world of politics, I'm the only one that said, "Brexit's going to happen." Remember, I was asked the question. I said,
"Yeah, I think they're going to approve it. I think they want independence. I don't think they want people pouring into their country." And
I was-CHUCK TODD:
You're not worried about, you think a fractured Europe is good for America?
DONALD TRUMP:
No, no. But we're spending a lot of money on Europe. Don't forget, Europe got together, why, primarily did they get together? So that
they could beat the United States when it comes to making money, in other words, foreign trade-CHUCK TODD:
Economic-DONALD TRUMP:
Okay? And now we talk about Europe like it's so wonderful. Hey, I love Europe, I have property in Europe. I'm just saying, the reason
that it got together was like a consortium so that it could compete with the United States-CHUCK TODD:
So what you're saying is all this stuff is good for America, even if it's not good for Europe?
DONALD TRUMP:
Look, you take a look at Airbus. They make more planes now than Boeing, okay? They got together, all of these countries got together
so that they could beat the United States. Okay, so we're in competition. So you know, we're in competition in one way, we're helping
them in another way. It is so messed up.
CHUCK TODD:
The Muslim ban. I think you've pulled back from it, but you tell me.
(BEGIN TAPE)
DONALD TRUMP:
We must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism until such time as proven vetting
mechanisms have been put in place.
(END TAPE)
CHUCK TODD:

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This feels like a slight rollback-DONALD TRUMP:
I don't think that's-CHUCK TODD:
Should it be interpreted-DONALD TRUMP:
I don't think so. I actually don't think it's a rollback. In fact, you could say it's an expansion. I'm looking now at territories. People were
so upset when I used the word Muslim. Oh, you can't use the word Muslim. Remember this. And I'm okay with that, because I'm
talking territory instead of Muslim.
But just remember this: Our Constitution is great. But it doesn't necessarily give us the right to commit suicide, okay? Now, we have a
religious, you know, everybody wants to be protected. And that's great. And that's the wonderful part of our Constitution. I view it
differently.
Why are we committing suicide? Why are we doing that? But you know what? I live with our Constitution. I love our Constitution. I
cherish our Constitution. We're making it territorial. We have nations and we'll come out, I'm going to be coming out over the next few
weeks with a number of the places. And it's very complex-CHUCK TODD:
Well I was just going to say-DONALD TRUMP:
--we have problems in Germany and we have problems with France-CHUCK TODD:
I was just going to ask that. Will this limitt-DONALD TRUMP:
You know, so it's not just the countries with-CHUCK TODD:
--would this limit immigration from France?
DONALD TRUMP:
What we're going to have is a thing called-CHUCK TODD:
They've been compromised by terrorism.
DONALD TRUMP:
They have totally been. And you know why? It's their own fault. Because they allowed people to come into their territory-CHUCK TODD:
So you would toughen up. You're basically saying, "Hey, if the French want to come over here, you've got to go through an extra
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DONALD TRUMP:
It's their own fault, because they've allowed people over years to come into their territory. And that's why Brexit happened, okay?
Because the U.K. is saying, "We're tired of this stuff, what's going on, we're tired of." But listen to this-CHUCK TODD:
You could get to the point where you're not allowing a lot of people to come into this country from a lot of places.
DONALD TRUMP:
Maybe we get to that point. Chuck, look what's happening. Look at what just took place in Afghanistan, where they blow up a whole
shopping center with people, they have no idea how many people were even killed. Happened today. So we have to be smart and we
have to be vigilant and we have to be strong. We can't be the stupid people-CHUCK TODD:
So France, Germany, Spain-DONALD TRUMP:
Here's my plan-CHUCK TODD:
--places that have been compromised?
DONALD TRUMP:
--here is what I want: Extreme vetting. Tough word. Extreme vetting.
CHUCK TODD:
What does that look like?
DONALD TRUMP:
Tough. We're going to have tough standards. And if a person can't prove-CHUCK TODD:
Give me one.
DONALD TRUMP:
--that they're from an area, and if a person can't prove what they have to be able to prove, they're not coming into this country. And I
would stop the Syrian migration and the Syrian from coming into this country in two seconds. Hillary Clinton wants to take 550 percent
more people coming in from that area than Barack Obama. I think she's crazy. I think she's crazy. We have no idea who these people
are for the most part, and you know, because I've seen them on different shows-CHUCK TODD:
All right.
DONALD TRUMP:
--but more importantly, I've read about it. I study it. There is no way that you can vet some of these people. There is no way. Law
enforcement officials, I've had them in my office. I've talked to them.
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You realize some of these folks have nowhere to go? They're truly victims of this civil war, what do you do with them?
DONALD TRUMP:
We will help them and we will build safe havens over in Syria, and we will get Gulf States-CHUCK TODD:
We, the United States are going to build these safe havens?
DONALD TRUMP:
We, the United States, we'll get Gulf States to pay for it, because we right now, we're going to have $21 trillion very soon, trillion, in
debt. We will do safe havens and safe zones in Syria and we will get nations that are so wealthy that are not doing anything. They're
not doing much. They have nothing but money. And you know who I'm talking about, the Gulf States. And we will get them to pay for it.
We would lead it. I don't want to pay because our country is going down the tubes. We owe too much money.
CHUCK TODD:
All right. Let me move to something with NATO. Mitch McConnell said this about your NATO remarks in the New York Times. He said
it was a rookie mistake, and that once you, let me finish the comment here. "It's a rookie mistake, and it proves that Trump needs
people like us around to help steer him in the right direction on some basic things."
DONALD TRUMP:
He's 100 percent wrong. Okay? He's 100 percent wrong if he said that. I didn't hear he said that-CHUCK TODD:
He did say it.
DONALD TRUMP:
Okay, fine, fine-CHUCK TODD:
New York Times-DONALD TRUMP:
If he said that, he's 100 percent wrong. And frankly it's sad. We have NATO, and we have many countries that aren't paying for what
they're supposed to be paying, which is already too little, but they're not paying anyway. And we're giving them a free ride or giving
them a ride where they owe us tremendous amounts of money. And they have the money. But they're not paying it. You know why?
Because they think we're stupid-CHUCK TODD:
So Estonia is paying, and if they get invaded by Russia, you're there?
DONALD TRUMP:
I feel differently. I feel very differently-CHUCK TODD:
But if a country's not doing -- Britain hasn't done the two percent.
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We have countries that aren't paying. Now, this goes beyond NATO, because we take care of-- we take care of Japan, we take care of
Germany, we take care of South Korea, we take care of Saudi Arabia, and we lose on everything. We lose on everything. If Mitch
McConnell says that, then he's wrong.
So all I'm saying is they have to pay. Now, a country gets invaded, they haven't paid, everyone says, "Oh, but we have a treaty." Well,
they have a treaty too. They're supposed to be paying. We have countries within NATO that are taking advantage of us. With me, I
believe they're going to pay. And when they pay, I'm a big believer in NATO.
But if they don't pay, we don't have, you know, Chuck, this isn't 40 years ago. This isn't 50 years ago. It's not 30 years ago. We're a
different country today. We're much weaker, our military is depleted, we owe tremendous amounts of money. We have to be
reimbursed. We can no longer be the stupid country.
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CHUCK TODD:
When we come back, what Donald Trump says about David Duke, Bernie Sanders, and whether he really plans to spend millions for
the sole purpose of defeating Ted Cruz and John Kasich. Sanders about Trump and about his reaction to Tim Kaine becoming Hillary
Clinton's running mate. We're in Philadelphia, site of the Democratic National Convention. Stay with us.
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CHUCK TODD:
Such a beautiful city here. Welcome back. More now of my interview with Donald Trump at The Trump National Golf Club in
Bedminster, New Jersey. And since we had a limited amount of time, I ended up speeding things up by asking Trump for some quick
reaction to simply some very prominent names in the news.
(BEGIN TAPE)
CHUCK TODD:
I'm just going to literally throw out a name and you'll know the question I'm asking. Bernie Sanders.
DONALD TRUMP:
Great respect for what he's done. He is being taken advantage of, and frankly, the system was rigged, and I'm the first one to say it
was rigged against him. And by the way-CHUCK TODD:
You took after him. You took after him. You said for supporting Hillary Clinton, you think he needs to-DONALD TRUMP:
Well, I'm not a fan of Bernie Sanders. But I am a fan of one thing that he talks about: Trade. He is the only one on that side that
understands trade. Now, he can't do anything about it because that's not his thing. But he has been gamed. He has been, it's a rigged
system against him. And what happened with the choice of Tim Kaine was a slap in the face to Bernie Sanders and everybody. I was
shocked. I love it from my standpoint, I love-CHUCK TODD:
Why do you love the Kaine pick?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, first of all, he took over $160,000 of gifts. And they said, "Well, they weren't really gifts, they were suits and trips and lots of
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Legal, legal in the state of Virginia.
DONALD TRUMP:
Bob McDonnell-- I believe it was Bob McDonnell, in the meantime, he had to go to the United States Supreme Court to get out of going
to jail-CHUCK TODD:
Well, they proved to quid pro quo-DONALD TRUMP:
--for taking a fraction of what-CHUCK TODD:
They proved quid pro quo on that one.
DONALD TRUMP:
Excuse me, Bob McDonnell took a fraction of what Kaine took. And I think, to me, it's a big problem. Now, how do you take all these
gifts? Hundreds of thousands of dollars. The other thing about him, he's bought and owned by the banks. And the third thing, he's in
favor of TPP and every other trade deal that he's ever looked at. And that means he wants people not to work.
Now, he's going to change his tune. And I understand he's now going to say, "I'm against TPP." Hillary Clinton was totally in favor of
TPP, which is the job killer, right? So was he. When she watched me on your show and other shows, all of a sudden she changed,
because she knows she can't win that in a debate.
CHUCK TODD:
All right. Ted Cruz, I'm going to amend it, are you really going to fund a super PAC to help defeat him-DONALD TRUMP:
Well, it's not the number one thing on my mind. Look, what's on my mind is beating Hillary Clinton. What's on my mind is winning for
the Republican Party. With that being said, yeah, I'll probably do a super PAC, you know, when they run against Kasich, for $10 million
to $20 million, against Ted Cruz. And maybe one other person that I'm thinking about-CHUCK TODD:
Who's that other one person?
DONALD TRUMP:
--but I won't tell you that. I mean, he's actually such a small person, I hate to give him the publicity. But yes, I will probably do that at
the appropriate at time. But I'm not going to do that until-CHUCK TODD:
Oh, give me the small person here.
DONALD TRUMP:
No, no, don't worry about it. We'll give it to you another time.
CHUCK TODD:
All right, let me ask you about this one. David Duke announced his Senate candidacy claiming your agenda for his own, or essentially
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DONALD TRUMP:
Are you ready, before you ask the question?
CHUCK TODD:
Newt Gingrich said, "Every Republican should repudiate this guy no matter what it takes"-DONALD TRUMP:
I did. And I do. Are you ready? I want-CHUCK TODD:
Would you support a Democrat over David Duke if that was what was necessary to defeat him?
DONALD TRUMP:
I guess, depending on who the Democrat, but the answer would be yes. Look, the answer is, as quick as you can say it. In fact, I went
to answer you before you-DONALD TRUMP:
Because last time with another person in your position, I did it very quickly. And they said, "He didn't do it fast enough." Rebuked. Is
that okay? Rebuked, done-CHUCK TODD:
Rebuked, done. Okay. Tax returns. A lot of conspiracy theories are being out there about why-- what's in your tax returns. You would
get rid of all these conspiracy theories tomorrow-DONALD TRUMP:
Let me tell you-CHUCK TODD:
Probably make people look silly-DONALD TRUMP:
Let me tell you. Let me give you a little lesson on tax returns. First of all, you don't learn very much from a tax return. I put in to the
federal elections group 100 and some-odd pages of my financials. It showed, as you know, that I'm much wealthier than anybody even
understood, okay? Tremendous cash, tremendous assets, tremendous all that stuff. Okay, that's it. I'm going through a routine audit.
Just a routine audit, and I've had it for I think 14 years, 13 years-CHUCK TODD:
Why?
DONALD TRUMP:
Every year they audit me. It's routine government. I would never give my tax returns until the audit's finished. But remember this: Mitt
Romney, four years ago, was under tremendous pressure to give his tax returns. And he held it and held it and held it, and he fought it,
and he, you know, he didn't do too well, okay? But he didn't do anything wrong on his taxes. When he gave his tax returns, people
forget, not now. He gave them in September, before the election-CHUCK TODD:
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DONALD TRUMP:
No, wait a minute, wait a minute. When he did, and his tax returns are a tiny peanut compared to mine, they went through his tax
returns. And they found one little sentence, another little-- there was nothing wrong. And they made him look bad. In fact I think he lost
his election because of that.
CHUCK TODD:
Because of the tax returns?
DONALD TRUMP:
I think he lost. And I'll tell you why: He didn't do anything wrong. Mitt Romney did nothing wrong. But they would take out of, his
weren't too big. Have you ever seen mine with the picture, they're like this high?
CHUCK TODD:
I have seen that picture, yes.
DONALD TRUMP:
Okay, so they took his tax return and they found a couple of little things. Nothing wrong, just standard. And they made him look very
bad, very unfair. But with all that said, I'd love to give them, but I'm under audit. When the audit's finished I'll give them.
CHUCK TODD:
Finally, Roger Ailes. Is he helping you? Is he advising you?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, I don't want to comment. But he's been a friend of mine for a long time, and I can tell you that some of the women that are
complaining, I know how much he's helped them. And even recently, and when they write books that are fairly recently released, and
they say wonderful things about him.
And now all of a sudden they're saying these horrible things about him. It's very sad. Because he's a very good person. I've always
found him to be just a very, very good person. And by the way, a very, very talented person. Look what he's done. So I feel very badly.
But a lot of people are thinking he's going to run my campaign.
CHUCK TODD:
Yeah, well-DONALD TRUMP:
My campaign's doing pretty well.
CHUCK TODD:
Mr. Trump, until we meet again.
DONALD TRUMP:
Thank you very much-CHUCK TODD:
Thank you for your time, sir, appreciate it.
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Up next, the man who had hoped to be the candidate being nominated by Democrats right here in Philadelphia this week, Senator
Bernie Sanders of Vermont. What does he think of those leaked DNC e-mails? We'll get his first comments since it happened. We're
going to be right back in just a minute.
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CHUCK TODD:
Tremendous shots there of a beautiful city. Welcome back. It's not the kind of thing you want happening days before your convention.
This weekend, Wikileaks released nearly 20,000 emails sent and received by members of the Democratic National Committee, some
of which seem to confirm what a lot of people had suspected, that the DNC was playing favorites with Hillary Clinton over Bernie
Sanders.
It appears Wikileaks either stole these emails or got them from a source. Remember, the DNC was hacked a few months ago. Among
the emails was one from the DNC's Chief Financial Officer Brad Marshall that was looking ahead to the contests in Kentucky and West
Virginia in early May. While not mentioning Sanders specifically by name, the email appeared to question Sanders' faith.
He wrote this, quote: "Does he believe in a god? I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my
peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist." Well, Sanders has long believed that
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz was in Clinton's corner the whole campaign. Well, he joins me now. Senator Sanders,
welcome back to Meet the Press.
And I should note that you talked about your belief in God last fall in an interview, I think, with your hometown paper there, so want to
get that out of the way. So let me start with this question questioning your faith. Brad Marshall apologized on Facebook. Has anyone
apologized to you personally? And what is your response to this entire discussion?
BERNIE SANDERS:
Well, no, nobody has apologized to me. And as you just mentioned, this really does not come as a shock to me or my supporters.
There is no question but the DNC was on Secretary Clinton's side from day one. We all know that. And I think, as I have said a long
time ago, that the time is now for Debbie Wasserman Schultz to step aside, not only for these issues.
We need a Democratic Party that is open, that's going to bring young people and working people into it, that is going to stand up and
take on the big money interests and fight for working families. I don't think Debbie has been that type of leader. So I would hope, and I
said this many months ago, that she would-CHUCK TODD:
Right.
BERNIE SANDERS:
--step aside, we would have new leadership.
CHUCK TODD:
And do you think it needs to happen now, today, before the start of the convention?
BERNIE SANDERS:
Well-CHUCK TODD:
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Well, I think what is already happening is that it's clear she is not going to be speaking to the convention. That is the right thing. I think
right now what we have got to focus on as Democrats is defeating perhaps the worst Republican candidate that I have seen in my
lifetime. Donald Trump would be a disaster for this country. He must be defeated.
We've got to elect Secretary Clinton on every single issue: fighting for the middle class on health care, on climate change, is a far, far
superior candidate to Trump. That's where I think the focus has got to be.
CHUCK TODD:
Do you believe that the DNC's apparent favoritism cost you this race?
BERNIE SANDERS:
Well, I think you-- there are a lot of reasons why one loses. We started off 50 points behind Secretary Clinton. We had the opposition
of virtually the entire Democratic leadership in every state in this country. And by the way, in terms of media, we did not get the kind of
media attention that somebody like a Donald Trump got, because media is not necessarily interested in the issues facing the middle
class, more interested in attacks in personality. So I think there were a lot of reasons.
But I will tell you this, Chuck, from the bottom of my heart, I am extraordinarily proud of the campaign that we ran. The issues that we
raised, the fact that we got 13 million Americans to vote for a political revolution. People who know the economy is rigged in favor of
big money, people who know that our middle class continues to decline and we have to go outside of establishment politics and
economics, people who know that we need to reform a broken criminal justice system and we need comprehensive immigration
reform.
The people-- what we did in our campaign is bring people together to say, "You know what? This country, our government, belongs to
all of us and not just a few." So I am very proud of the campaign we ran and the supporters that came on board.
CHUCK TODD:
So just to sum up here, these leaks, these emails, it hasn't given you any pause about your support for Hillary Clinton?
BERNIE SANDERS:
No, no, no. We are going to do everything that we can to protect working families in this country. And again, Chuck, I know media is
not necessarily focused on these things. But what a campaign is about is not Hillary Clinton, it's not Donald Trump. It is the people of
this country, people who are working longer hours for lower wages, people who do not have health care or are underinsured.
Hillary Clinton and I have worked together on a higher education proposal which will guarantee free tuition in public colleges and
universities for every family in this country making $125,000 a year or less. We're going to fight for paid family and medical leave.
Those are the issues that the American people want to hear discussed, and I'm going to go around the country discussing them and
making sure that Hillary Clinton is elected president.
CHUCK TODD:
You know, The Green Party presumptive nominee, Jill Stein, put out a release yesterday about the emails. And she said this:
"Democratic Party elites have been caught red-handed, sabotaging a grassroots campaign that tried to bring huge numbers of young
people, independents and non-voters into their party. Instead, they have shown exactly why America needs a new major party, a truly
democratic party for the people." Are you going to urge your supporters not to support Jill Stein and try to thwart her efforts to recruit
your supporters?
BERNIE SANDERS:
Well, you know, let me just say this. As the longest serving Independent in the history of the United States Congress, as somebody
who came into office by defeating an incumbent Democratic mayor in Burlington, Vermont, I know something about third party politics.
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But right now, the focus, to my mind, is to make sure that Donald Trump does not become president of the United States. I think by
temperament he is unqualified to be president. I think his views-- you have a guy who's running for president who rejects science,
doesn't even believe climate change is real, let alone wants to do something about it, wants to give hundreds of billions of dollars in tax
breaks to the top two-tenths of one percent.
CHUCK TODD:
Let me ask you-BERNIE SANDERS:
So my job right now is to see that Donald Trump is defeated, Hillary Clinton is elected.
CHUCK TODD:
You know, he makes a big deal out of the fact that you and he agree on one big issue, and that is trade deals, that these trade deals
have been bad for the country. And he basically says that Clinton and Kaine, as a ticket, aren't-- that their opposition, for instance, the
TPP as sort of Johnny-come-lately, that it can't be trusted, and that Sanders supporters should support Trump if they care about trade.
What do you say to that?
BERNIE SANDERS:
Well, I think in terms of who can be trusted, I think the evidence is clear that there has been no candidate that I have ever seen who
lies more often than does Donald Trump. I mean and that's just not me saying it, that's what any independent media analysis has
shown. So in terms of trust, you really can't trust a word, I think, that Mr. Trump has to say.
In terms of the TPP, it is no secret. I think our trade policies, for many, many years, have been a disaster. They have benefited
corporate America at the expense of working people. Secretary Clinton has come out in opposition to the TPP, does not want to see itCHUCK TODD:
Right.
BERNIE SANDERS:
--appear in the lame duck Congress. That's my view, as well.
CHUCK TODD:
You know, some of your supporters are disappointed in the pick of Tim Kaine, that he's not progressive enough. I know Tim Kaine
called you after he was picked. Do you consider Tim Kaine a progressive? And are you happy with this pick?
BERNIE SANDERS:
Look, you know, the pick is Secretary Clinton's. I've known Tim Kaine for a number of years. We've served in the Senate together,
obviously. Tim is a very, very smart guy. He's a very nice guy. His political views are not my political views. He is more conservative
than I am. Would I have preferred to see somebody like an Elizabeth Warren selected by Secretary Clinton? Yes, I would have.
CHUCK TODD:
And then finally, do you feel as if, that you, when you got Glass-Steagall, I wanted to ask about this, because it looks like the one thing
that both parties may agree on in their platforms is putting-- is being in favor of reinstating Glass-Steagall. Does this mean we will see
that happen in the next Congress?
BERNIE SANDERS:
Well, I'm going to do everything that I can to make it happen. You know, when we talk about our campaign, one of the things that we
have been able to do, Chuck, is create the most progressive Democratic platform in the history of the Democratic Party, and that
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I think the American people understand that we cannot continue to have a handful of reckless, irresponsible banks often acting
illegally, that something has to happen. They have to be broken up.
CHUCK TODD:
All right, Senator Bernie Sanders. The big speech is tomorrow night. We'll be waiting for you here in a very, very hot Philadelphia, over
100 degrees.
BERNIE SANDERS:
Okay.
CHUCK TODD:
Senator Sanders, thanks for coming on. Good to see you, sir.
BERNIE SANDERS:
Thank you very much.
CHUCK TODD:
When we come back, reaction to Hillary Clinton's choice of Tim Kaine as a running mate, who showed why he might have appeal,
unique appeal, to a very important voting bloc.
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SEN. TIM KAINE:
Aprendilo valores de mi pueblo--faith, familia, y trabajo.
(END TAPE)
CHUCK TODD
And we'll be back in a moment from Philadelphia with this great panel. Rachel Maddow, Michael Steele, Andrea Mitchell, and Chris
Matthews. Stay tuned.
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CHUCK TODD:
And we'll be back in a moment from Philadelphia with this great panel, Rachel Maddow, Michael Steele, Andrea Mitchell, and Chris
Matthews. Stay tuned.
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CHUCK TODD:
We are back. So much to talk about already. Our panel is here, Rachel Maddow, host of The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC,
former chairman of the Republican National Committee, Michael Steele, he's sort of the fish out of water here in Philadelphia. Andrea
Mitchell, NBC News, Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent, host, of course, of Andrea Mitchell Reports on MSNBC. And a Philadelphia
native himself, Mr. Brotherly Love Chris Matthews, host of Hardball-RACHEL MADDOW:
Mr. Brotherly Love?
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CHUCK TODD:
--Sisterly affection here for the Penn grad.
CHUCK TODD:
And-- this morning by the way we have new pictures of Tim Kaine walking into church this morning in Richmond, Virginia. He now
realizes, and now his parish is realizing, what it's like to have Secret Service following around a member of the parish there. All right.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Know what his Secret Service name is going to be yet?
CHUCK TODD:
What do we think the code name should be?
ANDREA MITCHELL:
But we're not sure-RACHEL MADDOW:
Well, the big joke was that if you're boring enough, your Secret Service name is Tim Kaine.
CHUCK TODD:
Ooh.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Right? That-CHUCK TODD:
Those are old Johnny Carson and Jay Leno, Al Gore jokes-CHUCK TODD:
All right, you guys are having already too much fun.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Sorry, sorry.
CHUCK TODD:
Let me just throw it out here. We heard what Bernie Sanders said about Tim Kaine. It was, that was tougher than I expected.
RACHEL MADDOW:
"His politics are not my politics."
ANDREA MITCHELL:
That's really -RACHEL MADDOW:
"He does not share my political views." That's an aggressive take from Bernie. I'm not surprised. Bernie's an aggressive politician. And
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CHUCK TODD:
Well, he said, "I'm for Hillary," and he was tough on Trump.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Yeah. And but he doesn't relish going after Trump. He likes going after the Democratic Party to try to move the Democratic Party.
That's his target, always has been.
MICHAEL STEELE:
It's still obvious, he's not 'Feeling the Bern' for Hillary. And that was very obvious. And when you asked about the trust question, he
didn't say he trusted Hillary Clinton. He said he didn't trust Donald Trump. So the reality of it is there's still some tension there that
Bernie is reflecting among his supporters. And it was evident there. I mean-RACHEL MADDOW:
He's got a mission that's bigger than one election. He always has.
MICHAEL STEELE:
That's true.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
And in fact, he could quiet the march that is planned to go from the center of Center City, and Rittenhouse Square all the way down at
Independence Hall. This march is going to disrupt the city today, no matter how peaceful, because this is a city, in 100-degree heat,
that is planning for a convention. And it's going to be a very large outpouring. He also said-CHUCK TODD:
And by the way, the hotter it is, the crankier people will be.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Yeah. And he also says that Tim Kaine doesn't share his politics, not only that, but that he would have preferred Elizabeth Warren. He
made it very clear; Tim Kaine is a nice guy, but he's not endorsing or embracing someone who Hillary Clinton -CHUCK TODD:
There's a painful look in your face, Chris.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
--called Tim Kaine a progressive.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
He didn't get to pick. Hillary Clinton did. And I've watched Hillary Clinton. I've watched a lot of politicians over the years. You can tell
when they're actually happy, not when they fake the laugh or anything else. She looked delighted during his speech yesterday. And I
haven't seen her that delighted in a long time. She had found her guy to be her running mate. I think she loved it.
And I think one thing we're getting all excited about, I understand why the progressives are upset. But one thing historically we all
know is the selection of a vice president is a poor predictor of the direction of that administration.
RACHEL MADDOW:
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It's not a policy pick.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Kennedy picked another conservative from the south, Lyndon Johnson, relatively conservative. And then we got the New Deal out of
that and we got the Great Society we got the New Frontier. It's a poor predictor. Now, if this is about spoils, they've got an argument.
They wanted a piece of the action. But there's differences between spoils and direction.
CHUCK TODD:
I want to throw out the one thing that Trump's trying to hit Kaine on, well, two things. But the one big one is the gifts in Virginia.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Yeah.
CHUCK TODD:
I only throw it out there is that I heard Ed Rendell ask to defend it. And he struggled, Andrea. He said, "Well, it's illegal in
Pennsylvania."
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Virginia-CHUCK TODD:
Okay. And it's legal in Virginia. That wasn't exactly a resounding defense.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Yeah. Virginia has a very strange, let's face it, strange gift law. The difference with Bob McDonnell, who was convicted, and then the
Supreme Court overturned it, is there was no quid pro quo. He declared it. That was the main thing. He declared everything, put it
down, in fact, computed higher numbers to staying in friends' houses. He put everything down. He was meticulous about it.
So they don't think there's a big ethics thing. Just on his progressivity or lack of it, he has this civil rights background. I mean I was in
the room. And what you saw on T.V. yesterday in Miami, in that largely Hispanic campus, that wonderful campus in Miami, it was
extraordinary. The enthusiasm for him and the affection. And having watched her all of these years, you're absolutely right, Chris-CHUCK TODD:
You know-ANDREA MITCHELL:
--she found her guy. She was a happy camper.
RACHEL MADDOW:
He's not a progressive, but they will tell a very progressive story about his history. The party has moved to the left while he sort of
always been a solid liberal.
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CHUCK TODD:
I feel like both Clinton and Kaine are trying to catch up to the party's movement.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
That's so true.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Well, on guns he was always there. He was heroic in Virginia on gun laws.
CHUCK TODD:
That they're moving-- and Michael, let me ask you this. The Trump camping says, "We love the Kaine pick." And here's their
reasoning. They love the Kaine pick because it reinforces that they're the political professionals, that here's Tim Kaine, and all he's
done in life, is been in office for the last 25 years.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Right.
CHUCK TODD:
And the whole point of Trump is Trump's Mr. "I'm the total outsider." If they want to double down on that, fine, go ahead. What do you
say?
RACHEL MADDOW:
Except Mike Pence
MICHAEL STEELE:
Right, right, right.
CHUCK TODD:
They pay no attention to that. I brought that brought to them. I said, "What about Pence?" And they're like, "Well, it's the top of the
ticket."
MICHAEL STEELE:
"Ignore that man behind the curtain."
CHUCK TODD:
What do you say to that? Did they have a point or not?
MICHAEL STEELE:
Well, they'll have a-- I think the broader point, is an interesting one. Because what he's comparing himself-- he's comparing himself,
Trump, to Kaine-CHUCK TODD:
Right.
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CHUCK TODD:
Yeah.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Pence is not a part of that equation, necessarily.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Yeah.
MICHAEL STEELE:
So when he's talking about the maverick, the outsider, he's-- he's assuming his ticket is total that.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Well, Pence wasn't even a part of his own rollout.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Right.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
If you remember. And that was-RACHEL MADDOW:
He couldn't get a word in edgewise.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Hillary Clinton spoke about Tim Kaine-MICHAEL STEELE:
I think their strength, Chuck, is gonna be on the argument-- this notion that Tim Kaine is progressive is just not believable. And for a
whole host of reasons. I think that's an opening for a lot of folks on Trump's side.
RACHEL MADDOW:
You can, there are element of his record that are not progressive, but on balance, I would argue that he is.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
I would argue that too.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
But one thing, the guy's two doors from you, if you're president. Look at the structure of the West Wing now. It's not some guy that
goes back to Maine like Lincoln's first vice president. He or she is right with you.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Right.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
You want a good person two doors for you, somebody who has values. And it's not just smart politics. I think what Hillary Clinton's
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CHUCK TODD:
Let's sneak in a break here. When we come back, I want to get into the DNC e-mail situation. And I also want to get your guys'
reaction to some interesting comments from Donald Trump. Yeah, you know that guy that was at the start of the show. We'll be right
back.
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CHUCK TODD:
Welcome back, panelists here. Before we jump to Trump, the DNC email leaks, Cleveland, we expected rowdiness, Never Trumpsters,
and all that stuff. We expect order here. But I wonder, Rachel, if-- look, I'm hearing from the Bernie bros. I'm in one of the emails just-I'm the complaint department here sometimes at NBC. Somebody was complaining about coverage. And I said, "Okay, let's talk on the
phone," or whatever. But we didn't do anything about it, because I get complaints about coverage every hour, every day.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Yeah.
CHUCK TODD:
But I think Bernie supporters may like this place, at least outside. They may be upset, and they may do something about it.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Yeah. I mean and, you know, there will be that big protest that Andrea was talking about today, to start things off. And there will be a
lot, there will be hundreds of Bernie delegates insides the room. Now honestly, from the top, down, he said, "We've got to elect Hillary
Clinton." He's been unequivocal about that, that's the most important thing.
It'll be interesting to see whether the rules fights and the platform fights end up, in the end, when there's need to get nailed down with
those votes, there is some dissent and chaos there. There might be.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
One thing is-CHUCK TODD:
Do you think Debbie Wasserman Schultz needs to get out now?
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Well, look-CHUCK TODD:
Not even gavel it in?
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
This is not a mystery story. This isn't Colombo.
CHUCK TODD:
Yeah.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
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Sure.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
--that they were tilting the scales to Hillary Clinton. Middle of the night debates, Sunday morning -- it was an absurd debate schedule.
And it just said, "We're for Hillary, we don't want the new guy to get all the attention."
ANDREA MITCHELL:
And what Bernie said to you is that she's not going to be giving a speech. When does the party chair not give a speech at the
convention? And apparently that is the case.
CHUCK TODD:
And then right now, though, they will gavel in.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Thank god we haven't-- her quitting right now before -- I mean, the DNC's gonna be running a big part of the ground game for the
whole-CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Yeah.
RACHEL MADDOW:
You know, you don't-CHUCK TODD:
But I tell you, this-RACHEL MADDOW:
It would be suicide for the chair to jump out now-CHUCK TODD:
This doesn't help her own fight for reelection, which I still think she's going to be okay.
RACHEL MADDOW:
No, but-CHUCK TODD:
It's a district that she knows very well. But-ANDREA MITCHELL:
But Bernie endorsed her opponent.
RACHEL MADDOW:
But her reelection fight is in her district.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
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It's not to be the chair of the DNC, that's next year.
CHUCK TODD:
All right. Michael Steele, what'd you hear from Donald Trump? Did it make you feel better or worse about his chances?
MICHAEL STEELE:
Well, I think Donald Trump did a couple of things he needed to do. One was, and you could see it in the room that night, people began
to say, "Okay, I can get there." The speech that he gave, when you read it, seemed a lot darker and harsher than when he delivered it.
He delivered it in a way-RACHEL MADDOW:
I thought the opposite.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Yeah, yeah.
RACHEL MADDOW:
When reading it, I wasn't freaked out.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Yeah.
RACHEL MADDOW:
And then, when I saw him give it, I pulled the covers up.
MICHAEL STEELE:
No, for me, it was the reverse. Because the reaction. I'm sitting in the room and I'm getting the reaction from the crowd.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Mmm.
MICHAEL STEELE:
And the reaction from the crowd was, "This guy is going to be a fighter." And I think that's a strong message for him coming out of this
convention.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Rachel, you have never pulled the covers up.
RACHEL MADDOW:Oh no, I meant proverbially
CHUCK TODD:There's a lot of personal information here. Woah, it's Sunday morning, guys.
MICHAEL STEELE:
I thought he did what he needed to do, Chuck. I do.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Standing under those 15-foot-tall letters with Trump, and then his head comes up there. And then he spent 76 minutes screaming, red
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CHRIS MATTHEWS:
I think that was technical. I don't think he knew how to read a script like that. I don't think he had the ability to-- his daughter knew how
to do it. It's tough to read a script in a conversational manner. So you end up doing this sort of scream thing.
RACHEL MADDOW:
But it takes an ego to turn a 30 minute script into a 78 minute rant.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
But he said that he was the person who would fix everything. And they're focusing on that. But, you know, Kaine was focusing on that.
You know, it is the "we" not the I. They're comparing him to a dictator.
MICHAEL STEELE:
But the-ANDREA MITCHELL:
It is the language and the delivery, Michael-MICHAEL STEELE:
Don't lose sight of the fact that a lot of Americans out there are saying it is the "we" who screwed us up to this point.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Yeah.
MICHAEL STEELE:
It is the we who've gotten us into this mess.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
It's a different way of defining democracy, Michael.
MICHAEL STEELE:
So they're looking for the I, someone who's going to step forward as a leader, to get us through this mess. This is the bifurcation of the
of the population, the voting population right now. And it's going to be interesting to see which one of these arguments win-RACHEL MADDOW:
Is this about the hunger for a strong man, is that what you're talking about?
MICHAEL STEELE:Yeah no, there really is Rachel.
RACHEL MADDOW:We've seen this around the world, it's not supposed to be us.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
I've heard Bernie make your point.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Yes!
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people of this country.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Right.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Same message. Different sides.
MICHAEL STEELE:Same message.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Same message. The question is whether or not one man is supposed to deliver salvation for the country. We're not supposed to be
that kind of country.
CHUCK TODD:
I want to throw one more. He seemed, at least in the interview with me, he goes after Mitch McConnell, goes after Ted Cruz, goes
after John Kasich.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
He is fearless in that regard.
CHUCK TODD:He really is.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
He is not going to moderate himself.
RACHEL MADDOW:
You didn't even ask about Kasich. And he's bringing it up
CHUCK TODD:
No, exactly. He brought Kasich up himself.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
And another player to be named player, who, you know, remain -- could be one of the senators like Jeff Flake. Look, the fact is that he
is not playing by anybody's ground rules except Donald Trump's. What he said about N.A.T.O. was extraordinary because he doubled
down on that. And the whole system of collect your security in Europe, if you're in Poland today, you are not reassured-CHUCK TODD:
What's amazing is the Trump campaign tried to walk it back all last week on the N.A.T.O. stuff. And he's basically saying, "Don't walk it
back."
RACHEL MADDOW:
Even beyond N.A.T.O. to talk about Europe as a threat to America is what's good for Europe is bad for America and we have an
interest in Europe being weak and divided, they only got together to screw us? Like, hold on a second.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Yeah, it'll play in Scranton. It'll play up there in the Eerie, Pennsylvania it'll play.
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The European Union-- came out of the way to try to not have World War III.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Because people think we're being shoved around and exploited and he's saying, "I'm going to shove back."
ANDREA MITCHELL:
They are our markets-- markets, allies-CHUCK TODD:
You guys great. I'm going to try to get another half hour. But let me sneak in this. We'll be back in a moment with our-- we'll call it
halftime segment. No, it's Endgame Segment. And we'll look at Hillary Clinton's popularity compared to other Democratic nominees on
the eve of their conventions.
***COMMERCIAL BREAK***
CHUCK TODD:
The panel never stops interacting here. Seriously we just went to a commercial break-RACHEL MADDOW:
--wants more with France!
CHUCK TODD:
It's endgame time. Look, I want to show you here very quickly some numbers, because it will help us judge whether this is a successful
convention for Hillary Clinton. These are favorable ratings, personal favorable ratings, whether you're right side up or upside down,
from our NBC Wall Street Journal poll, for every Democrat going back to '92. And as you can see, Hillary Clinton in the worst shape of
any presumptive nominee going into their convention.
Now, let me show you what everybody else came through after their convention. So successful convention for Bill Clinton, successful
one for Al Gore. Flat for John Kerry, successful, Barack Obama. Obviously, we'll find out, for Hillary Clinton, what does she need to-ANDREA MITCHELL:
Well, what they are going to do is they're going to have gauzy films, the same kind of films you saw in 1992, the same producers-CHUCK TODD:
And JFK?
ANDREA MITCHELL:
They're going to have all of these films, biography, résumé. They know that her résumé is not resonating with millennials. People know
what she did, they don't know-- they know the list of what she was. They don't know what she actually did, what she accomplished.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Yeah.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
They're going to do all of that. The balance is going to be very different.
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ANDREA MITCHELL:
Well, they're going to have to validators.
RACHEL MADDOW:
Yeah.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
They're going to have people on that podium behind it who are going to talk about things she has done for them. And it's going to be
very much all about her and much less about taking down Trump
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
I think the magic moment in this convention's going to be Thursday night. And a lot of women, and a lot of men, too, are going to see
Hillary Clinton as the first party nominee, who's probably going to be like the president. She has the advantage right now. And there
are going to be misty eyes all across the country.
And any men at that moment who make a wisecrack are going to be guaranteeing another vote for Hillary Clinton. I think it's a very
emotional moment for people. They've haven't quite got to it because of all is mishegas that's gone on this year. I think it's going to be
magical. And if Hillary Clinton just stands there with a little emotion, this is an amazing historic moment.
CHUCK TODD:
Michael was the Republican convention too anti-Clinton and not enough pro-Trump?
MICHAEL STEELE:
No. The Republican convention had to go anti-Clinton-CHUCK TODD:
Had to do that?
MICHAEL STEELE:
--because of the Trump issues.
CHUCK TODD:
What about this one?
MICHAEL STEELE:
This one? I was thinking, as you guys were talking about Barack Obama and talking about Hillary Clinton being likable enough, this is
going to be a convention in which they're going to showcase her so you can like her. Because people, those numbers show, don't like
her. So it's going to be everything you just said, Chris, plus more. The problem is what happens afterwards. And that's where Hillary
Clinton's going to have to contine .
CHUCK TODD:
Here's an out question for all of you. Besides Hillary Clinton's speech, what will be the other buzziest speech or speaker when we walk
away from this convention?
RACHEL MADDOW:
We're going to have a huge one on night one. Bernie is a big deal.
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Bernie.
RACHEL MADDOW:
The Democratic Party is going through a transformation. Liberals are having their moment. And this convention has to reflect it.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Every Democratic convention I can remember, going back to, God, '64, the best speech was never given by the nominee, whether it's
Bobby Kennedy or it's Jesse Jackson, or it's Mario Cuomo.
MICHAEL STEELE:
Right.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
The candidates never have been able to deliver the best speech. So I would bet on Bernie.
RACHEL MADDOW:
It was Trump Jr. last week.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
Bernie or President Obama.
ANDREA MITCHELL:
Michelle Obama and Barack Obama on day two.
CHUCK TODD:
I think it's Barack Obama on Wednesday night. I think it's going to be to Hillary Clinton what Bill Clinton was to Barack Obama four
years ago. All right. That's all for this Sunday morning.
CHRIS MATTHEWS:
We agree.
CHUCK TODD:
I'll be hosting a special edition of Meet the Press Daily tonight at 5:00 Eastern on MSNBC. I know that's what everybody on this table
will be watching. And then, throughout the week, I'll be joined by my colleagues Lester Holt and Savannah Guthrie right here at The
Wells Fargo Center for convention coverage on the network beginning at 10:00 Eastern, 7:00 Pacific. If you missed it last week, you
should be regretting it. Watch us this week. And of course we'll be back next Sunday. Because if it is Sunday, Meet the Press.
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President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday called the recent attacks in Germany and Turkey "terrible" and suggested that he
does not intend to reevaluate his plans to ban Muslims from immigrating to the United States, boasting that he had been "proven to
be right."
“You know my plans. All along, I’ve been proven to be right. 100% correct. What’s happening is disgraceful," Trump told
reporters Wednesday when asked whether the recent violence has influenced his proposed Muslim ban.
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"That’s what it is: an attack on humanity," he said. "And it’s got to be stopped."
Trump said he had not spoken with President Obama since the attacks.
"Innocent civilians were murdered in the streets as they prepared to celebrate the Christmas holiday," Trump said in an initial
statement about the attack on Monday. "ISIS and other Islamist terrorists continually slaughter Christians in their communities and
places of worship as part of their global jihad."
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Exhibit Z

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Trump asked for a 'Muslim ban,' Giuliani says — and ordered a commission to do it 'legally'
Giuliani claims Trump asked him how to create a Muslim ban: "He called me
up. He said, 'Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it l...
Amy B Wang
Giuliani claims Trump asked him how to create a Muslim ban: "He called me up. He said, 'Put a commission together.
Show me the right way to do it legally.'"
Former New York mayor Rudy W. Giuliani said President Trump wanted a "Muslim ban" and requested he assemble
a commission to show him "the right way to do it legally."
Giuliani, an early Trump supporter who once had been rumored for a Cabinet position in the new administration,
appeared on Fox News late Saturday night to describe how Trump's executive order temporarily banning refugees came
together.
Trump signed orders on Friday not only to suspend admission of all refugees into the United States for 120 days but
also to implement "new vetting measures" to screen out "radical Islamic terrorists." Refugee entry from Syria, however,
would be suspended indefinitely, and all travel from Syria and six other nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan
and Yemen — is suspended for 90 days. Trump also said he would give priority to Christian refugees over those of other
religions, according to the Christian Broadcasting Network.
Fox News host Jeanine Pirro asked Giuliani whether the ban had anything to do with religion.
"How did the president decide the seven countries?" she asked. "Okay, talk to me."
"I'll tell you the whole history of it," Giuliani responded eagerly. "So when [Trump] first announced it, he said, 'Muslim
ban.' He called me up. He said, 'Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.' "
Giuliani said he assembled a "whole group of other very expert lawyers on this," including former U.S. attorney general
Michael Mukasey, Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Tex.) and Rep. Peter T. King (R-N.Y.).
"And what we did was, we focused on, instead of religion, danger — the areas of the world that create danger for us,"
Giuliani told Pirro. "Which is a factual basis, not a religious basis. Perfectly legal, perfectly sensible. And that's what

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the ban is based on. It's not based on religion. It's based on places where there are substantial evidence that people are
sending terrorists into our country."
It was unclear when the phone call Giuliani took place and when the commission began working. An email to the White
House press office was not immediately returned Sunday.
Clips of the exchange between Giuliani and Pirro quickly went viral Saturday night, with some claiming that Giuliani's
statement amounted to admitting Trump's intent had been to institute a ban based on religion.
Others, including Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, have insisted
it is not a ban on Muslims, but rather one based on countries from which travel was already restricted under Barack
Obama's administration.
Priebus appeared on CBS's "Face the Nation" Sunday morning to say it was possible Trump would expand the list of
countries included in the travel ban.
"You can point to other countries that have similar problems, like Pakistan and others," Priebus told host John
Dickerson. "Perhaps we need to take it further."
Priebus also said there had been weeks of work and "plenty of communication" between the White House, the State
Department and the Department of Homeland Security regarding the ban.
"We didn't just type this thing up in an office and sign up," he told Dickerson.
Later on the same program, Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) called out Giuliani's interview with Pirro from the night before.
"They can't deny that this is a Muslim ban," Ellison told Dickerson. "On the campaign trail, [Trump] said he wanted a
Muslim ban. ... Rudolph W. Giuliani who helped him write it said that they started out with the intention of a Muslim
ban and then they sort of 'languaged' it up so to try to avoid that label, but it is a religiously based ban."
Senate Democrats vowed to draft legislation to block the travel ban.
"We're demanding the president reverse these executive orders that go against what we are, everything we have always
stood for," Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in a news conference Sunday morning, noting
later that his middle name, Ellis, was originally inspired by Ellis Island.
"It was implemented in a way that created chaos and confusion across the country, and it will only serve to embolden and
inspire those around the globe those that will do us harm," Schumer added of the ban. "It must be reversed immediately."
Trump's executive order sparked massive protests at airports around the country Friday and Saturday, as reports
surfaced that dozens of travelers from the affected countries, including green-card holders, were being detained.
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Saturday morning challenging Trump's order after two Iraqi men
with immigrant visas were barred from entering the United States at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport.
As Giuliani was speaking, Fox News simultaneously aired an alert that noted federal judge Ann M. Donnelly had issued
a stay to stop the deportations nationwide.

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Donnelly wrote that there was a strong likelihood the order had violated the petitioners' rights to due process and equal
protection by the Constitution.
"There is imminent danger that, absent the stay of removal, there will be substantial and irreparable injury to refugees,
visa-holders, and other individuals from nations subject to the January 27, 2017 Executive Order," Donnelly wrote.
The ACLU hailed the victory.
"Clearly the judge understood the possibility for irreparable harm to hundreds of immigrants and lawful visitors to this
country," ACLU executive director Anthony D. Romero said in a statement. "Our courts today worked as they should
as bulwarks against government abuse or unconstitutional policies and orders. On week one, Donald Trump suffered
his first loss in court."
On Sunday, the Department of Homeland Security issued a statement saying it did not plan to back off enforcing Trump's
orders.
"President Trump's Executive Orders remain in place — prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the U.S.
government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety," the statement
read. "President Trump's Executive Order affects a minor portion of international travelers, and is a first step towards
reestablishing control over America's borders and national security."
The department said that less than 1 percent of daily international air travelers to the United States had been
"inconvenienced" on Saturday.
Matthew Kolken, an immigration attorney based in Buffalo said there has been "a systemic bias against individuals from
Muslim countries in the U.S. immigration departments" for years, including under the Obama administration.
"This isn't unprecedented," Kolken told The Washington Post by phone Sunday. "The unfortunate reality is the executive
branch does have vast discretionary authority to determine who they are going to [allow in or not]."
Still, Kolken said, he believes "Trump has gone a step further without a doubt" in including even people who are lawful
permanent residents and suspending all immigration applications from people from the seven countries on the banned
list.
If there was evidence of disparate treatment of individuals from the same country — if there were anecdotal evidence of,
for example, a Syrian family of one religious background allowed to enter over that of another religious background —
then that is where lawsuits could come into play, he said.
"The question becomes whether they're trying to do an end-around by couching the ban as a country-specific ban based
on a security-related issues when in reality it's a religious ban," Kolken said.
Read more:
Fact Checker: What you need to know about terror threat from foreigners and Trump's executive order
'I am heartbroken': Malala criticizes Trump for 'closing the door on children' fleeing violence
A ship full of refugees fleeing the Nazis once begged the U.S. for entry. They were turned back.

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Trump asked for a 'Muslim ban,' Giuliani says — and..., 2017 WLNR 2956241

Trump's travel ban could make Rex Tillerson's potential job harder, a former defense secretary says

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Freedoms & Civil Liberties (1IN08); Legal (1LE33); Legislation (1LE97); Social Issues (1SO05); U.S. Legislation
(1US12))
Industry: (Homeland Security (1HO11); Security (1SE29))
Region: (Africa (1AF90); Americas (1AM92); Arab States (1AR46); Mediterranean (1ME20); Middle East (1MI23);
New York (1NE72); North America (1NO39); Syria (1SY20); U.S. Mid-Atlantic Region (1MI18); USA (1US73))
Language: EN
Other Indexing: (Donald Trump; Ann Donnelly had; Jeanine Pirro; Rex Tillerson; Christian refugees; Anthony Romero;
Ann Donnelly; Mike McCaul; Matthew Kolken; Kellyanne Conway; Rudolph Giuliani; Rudy Giuliani; Peter King;
Michael Mukasey; John Dickerson; Reince Priebus; Charles Schumer; Keith Ellison)
Word Count: 1325
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Exhibit AA

Donald Trump says he is not bothered by comparisons to Hitler, 2015 WLNR 36291622

12/8/15 WashingtonPost.com (Pg. Unavail. Online)
2015 WLNR 36291622
WashingtonPost.com
Copyright (c) 2015 The Washington Post
December 8, 2015
Section: post-politics
Donald Trump says he is not bothered by comparisons to Hitler
Jenna Johnson
The comparison between Donald Trump and Hitler is being made more and more frequently -- including on the cover of
Tuesday's Philadelphia Daily News -- but the Republican front-runner said Tuesday that the comparison doesn't bother
him.
"You're increasingly being compared to Hitler," ABC News' George Stephanopoulos said during an interview with
Trump on "Good Morning America" Tuesday. "Does that give you any pause at all?"
"No," Trump responded, "because what I am doing is no different than what FDR -- FDR's solution for Germans,
Italians, Japanese, you know, many years ago."
Stephanopoulos jumped in as Trump kept talking: "So you're for internment camps?"
"This is a president who is highly respected by all," Trump said of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. "He did the same thing
-- if you look at what he was doing, it was far worse."
[ Donald Trump calls for 'total' ban on Muslims entering United States ]
Trump's answer was confusing and meandering but he seemed to be making the point that during times of war, more
extreme measures must be used.
"We are now at war," Trump said. "We have a president that doesn't want to say that, but we are now at war."
"I've got to press you on that, sir,"Stephanopoulos said. "So you're praising FDR there, I take it you're praising the
setting up of internment camps for Japanese during World War II?"
"No, I'm not," Trump responded. "No, I'm not. No, I'm not."
Trump then rattled off the numbers of some of the presidential proclamations Roosevelt issued "having to do with alien
Germans, alien Italians, alien Japanese."

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Donald Trump says he is not bothered by comparisons to Hitler, 2015 WLNR 36291622

"They went through a whole list of things -- they couldn't go five miles from their homes, they weren't allowed to use
radios, flashlights," Trump said. "Take a look at what FDR did many years ago, and he's one of the most highly respected
presidents... They named highways after him."
Stephanopoulos responded: "You want to bring back policies like that?"
After a pause, Trump responded: "No, I don't to bring it back, George. At all. I don't like doing it at all. It's a temporary
measure until our representatives, many of whom are grossly incompetent, until our representatives can figure out what's
going on."

---- Index References ---News Subject: (Islam (1IS02); Judaism (1JU93); Minority & Ethnic Groups (1MI43); Race Relations (1RA49); Religion
(1RE60); Social Issues (1SO05))
Industry: (Celebrities (1CE65); Entertainment (1EN08))
Language: EN
Other Indexing: (Donald Trump; Franklin Delano Roosevelt; George Stephanopoulos; Hitler)
Word Count: 371
End of Document

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2

Exhibit BB

Donald Trump: 'I think Islam hates us' - CNNPolitics.com

Donald Trump: 'I think Islam hates us'
By Theodore Schleifer, CNN
 Updated 5:56 PM ET, Thu March 10, 2016

Story highlights
"I think Islam hates us," Trump told CNN's
Anderson Cooper, deploring the "tremendous
hatred" that he said partly defined the religion
Asked if the hated was "in Islam itself," Trump
would only say that was for the media to figure
out

Washington (CNN) — Donald Trump said
Wednesday that he thinks "Islam hates us," drawing
little distinction between the religion and radical
Islamic terrorism.
"I think Islam hates us," Trump told CNN's Anderson
Cooper, deploring the "tremendous hatred" that he
said partly defined the religion. He maintained the
war was against radical Islam, but said, "it's very
hard to define. It's very hard to separate. Because
you don't know who's who."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/politics/donald-trump-islam-hates-us/

2/16/2017

Donald Trump: 'I think Islam hates us' - CNNPolitics.com


Donald Trump CNN interview (part 1) 10:15
READ: Donald Trump: 'It's over' if I win Ohio and Florida
Asked if the hate was "in Islam itself," Trump would only say that was for the media to figure out.
"You're gonna have to figure that out, OK?" he told Cooper. "We have to be very vigilant. We have to be
very careful. And we can't allow people coming into this country who have this hatred of the United
States."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/politics/donald-trump-islam-hates-us/

2/16/2017

Donald Trump: 'I think Islam hates us' - CNNPolitics.com


Donald Trump CNN interview (part 2) 10:59
Trump made headlines in December when he called for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the U.S.,
"until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." Despite widespread condemnation
of the remarks, Trump has stood by the proposal.
Speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room" Thursday, Trump spokeswoman Katrina
Pierson said the real-estate magnate stood by the sentiment that many Muslims worldwide sympathize
with ISIS, but said Trump should've used "radical Islam."
"It is radical Islamic extremists that do participate in these types of things," Pierson said, calling for a
"broader perspective" of Muslims' ties to terror. "We've allowed this propaganda to spread all through
the country that this is a religion of peace."
In speaking with Cooper, Trump added that "there can be no doctrine" when asked to outline how he
would project power overseas.
Trump also tried to clarify his position on how far he would go in targeting the families of terrorists. He
has said in the past that he is in favor of "expanding the laws" that govern how the U.S. can combat and
deter terrorism, and Trump has called to bring back waterboarding, even vowing the U.S. "should go a
lot further than waterboarding."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/politics/donald-trump-islam-hates-us/

2/16/2017

Donald Trump: 'I think Islam hates us' - CNNPolitics.com


Donald Trump talks about working with Democrats 00:51
READ: Trump: My Muslim friends don't support my immigration ban
But Trump on Wednesday declined to say what specific measures he would support.
"I'll work on it with the generals," he told Cooper. He added, "We have to play the game at a much
tougher level than we're playing it now."

Pence's sphere of
influence questioned in
wake of Flynn fallout
Trump shows his true
hand on LGBTQ rights

Obama photographer shades Trump
over secure discussions

Feinstein, Grassley seek
full briefing, transcripts of
Flynn calls

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/politics/donald-trump-islam-hates-us/

2/16/2017

Donald Trump: 'I think Islam hates us' - CNNPolitics.com

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/politics/donald-trump-islam-hates-us/

2/16/2017

Exhibit CC

Trump Responds to Brussels Attacks: 'We're Having Problems..., 2016 WLNR 8849615

3/22/16 Mediaite (Blog) (Pg. Unavail. Online)
2016 WLNR 8849615
Mediaite (Blog)
Copyright (c) 2016 Mediaite
March 22, 2016
Trump Responds to Brussels Attacks: 'We're Having Problems With the Muslims'
- Trump on Brussels Attacks: 'We're Having Problems With the Muslims'
Alex Griswold
Mar 22, 2016
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trumpreacted to the Brussels terror attack Tuesday morning, saying bluntly
on Fox Business that "we're having problems with the Muslims."
"You called after the Paris attacks for a pause to stop Muslims from coming into the United States. That got a lot of
criticism, as you know," noted Wall Street Journal editor-in-chief Jerry Baker
"And a lot of support, Jerry. It got tremendous support," Trump pushed back.
Please enable Javascript to watch.
"Frankly, look, we're having problems with the Muslims, and we're having problems with Muslims coming into the
country," he said, citing the San Bernardino shooters, one of whom entered the country on a fiance visa.
"You need surveillance, you have to deal with the mosques whether you like it or not," Trump said. "These attacks aren't
done by Swedish people, that I can tell you."
Watch above, via Fox Business.
[Image via screengrab] —— >>Follow Alex Griswold (@HashtagGriswold) on Twitter

---- Index References ---News Subject: (International Terrorism (1IN37); Islam (1IS02); Religion (1RE60); Social Issues (1SO05); Top World
News (1WO62))
Region: (Belgium (1BE51); Europe (1EU83); Eurozone Countries (1EU86); Western Europe (1WE41))

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Trump Responds to Brussels Attacks: 'We're Having Problems..., 2016 WLNR 8849615

Language: EN
Other Indexing: (Jerry Baker; Donald Trumpreacted)
Keywords: (brussels attacks); (iowac); (TV); (Jerry Baker); (Donald Trump); (Election 2016); (Fox Business); (Belgium)
Word Count: 162
End of Document

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Exhibit DD

Case: 17-35105, 02/11/2017,Document 14 Filed 02/06/17 Page 123 of 68
Case 2:17-cv-00135-JLR ID: 10316343, DktEntry: 140-3, Page of 5

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Case: 17-35105, 02/11/2017,Document 14 Filed 02/06/17 Page 325 of 68
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Case: 17-35105, 02/11/2017,Document 14 Filed 02/06/17 Page 527 of 68
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Exhibit EE

Disorder at Airports as Travelers Are Detained Without Lawyers - The New York Times

2/16/17, 9)07 AM

https://nyti.ms/2jLMxKS

N.Y. / REGION

Disorder at Airports as Travelers Are
Detained Without Lawyers
By BENJAMIN MUELLER and MATTHEW ROSENBERG

JAN. 29, 2017

Drab airport screening areas and waiting rooms were transformed into chaotic
scenes on Sunday, with lawyers saying that border agents had put pressure on
detainees and created an information blackout that left many struggling to discern
how President Trump’s immigration order was being applied.
In New York, a lawyer said detainees were being moved from one terminal to
another in handcuffs. In Los Angeles, an Iranian graduate student was pushed by
border agents to sign documents allowing them to send her out of the country, her
lawyers said. And in the Washington area, agents told lawyers that officials had
barred detainees from getting legal help, despite a federal judge’s order that legal
permanent residents be given access to lawyers.
Panic gave way to euphoria in some cases as travelers who had been detained
for many hours were released and reunited with relatives. But well into Sunday,
two days after Mr. Trump signed an executive order keeping many foreigners from
entering the country, lawyers were still sweeping airport arrival sections in search
of waiting relatives, often their only source of information about who was being
held.
Some detainees said they had slept on office chairs. In Los Angeles, lawyers
said Customs and Border Protection agents had told them there were cots but had
declined to say how many there were, or how many people were being held.
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Disorder at Airports as Travelers Are Detained Without Lawyers - The New York Times

2/16/17, 9)07 AM

Detainees were told their phones would be disruptive and had to be taken. Lawyers
and relatives were growing increasingly concerned about older detainees with
medical problems.
Among those with ailments were an Iranian couple who had arrived in Los Angeles
on visitors’ visas. The man, in his late 60s, had been through two open-heart
operations, and he and his wife, in her late 50s, were both diabetic. After arriving
at the airport on Saturday afternoon, they were allowed to call their daughter in the
United States only once, around 1 a.m. on Sunday, said Patricia Corrales, a private
lawyer working on detainees’ cases there. Relatives and lawyers repeatedly asked
whether the couple were receiving proper medical care but learned nothing further
from border agents.
Ms. Corrales, who was an Immigration and Customs Enforcement lawyer for
17 years, said, “I think they don’t necessarily have the resources, the staff and
experience to deal with these large numbers.”
In a statement, the Department of Homeland Security said, “We are
committed to ensuring that all individuals affected by the executive orders,
including those affected by the court orders, are being provided all rights afforded
under the law.”
Some detainees were reportedly pressured to sign documents they hardly
understood and then put on flights out of the country. When two brothers from
Yemen, Tareq Aqel Mohammed Aziz, 21, and Ammar, 19, landed on Saturday
morning at Dulles International Airport near Washington with immigrant visas,
they planned to board a connecting flight to Flint, Mich., to join their father.
Instead, they were taken off the plane, put into handcuffs and told they needed to
sign a form or face being barred from the country for five years, said their lawyer,
Simon Y. Sandoval-Moshenberg, of the Legal Aid Justice Center in Virginia. They
signed the form and were quickly put on a plane to Ethiopia.
A 24-year-old Iranian woman who is a graduate student in the United States
told relatives of a similar problem at Los Angeles International Airport, where she
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Disorder at Airports as Travelers Are Detained Without Lawyers - The New York Times

2/16/17, 9)07 AM

arrived on Saturday after a trip visiting family members in Europe. Border agents
told the woman that her student visa was no longer valid, which lawyers said was
not true, and that if she did not sign a document saying she was leaving voluntarily,
she would be forcibly deported and barred from entry for five years.
The Iranian student signed. She had not been allowed to consult a lawyer and
was permitted only three calls to relatives before her phone was confiscated and
searched, said Ms. Corrales and Judy London, the directing attorney of the
nonprofit Public Counsel’s Immigrants’ Rights Project, both of whom spoke with
the woman’s relatives. On Saturday night, after a federal judge in Brooklyn ruled
the government could not remove travelers who had arrived with valid visas, she
was put on a plane back to Europe, her lawyers said. They declined to share her
name out of concern for her safety.
On Sunday morning, Ms. Corrales spoke to a supervisor from the customs
agency who suggested that the Iranian student was still at the Los Angeles airport.
The supervisor told Ms. Corrales that “they were waiting for orders from higherups in terms of how to enforce the injunction,” Ms. Corrales said, referring to the
Brooklyn judge’s ruling.
Some detainees dealt with the whiplash of plans changing by the hour. A group
of five Iranians detained in New York told family members on Sunday morning
that the government planned to put them on a 1:30 p.m. flight back to Turkey, said
Melanie Zuch, a staff lawyer at the Urban Justice Center. Several hours later, some
of them were told they would be allowed to stay.
Vahideh Rasekhi, a graduate student at Stony Brook University on Long Island
who was also detained at Kennedy Airport, said she and other detainees were also
told they would be put on flights back out of the country, with agents promising
only that if they held out a little longer, they might work out a way to keep them in
the United States. Eventually they did, and shortly after 2:30 p.m., Ms. Rasekhi
walked into Terminal 4 and was immediately surrounded by loved ones, lawyers
and journalists.

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Disorder at Airports as Travelers Are Detained Without Lawyers - The New York Times

2/16/17, 9)07 AM

“I’m just so exhausted,” she said.
She said that detainees had been given meals and water and that agents had
even satisfied one person’s request for a lemon. Others gave accounts of more
difficult conditions; one lawyer, Justin Orr, said some detainees had been given
nothing but chocolate to eat.
Mousa Ahmadi, 30, an Iranian graduate student at the New Jersey Institute of
Technology, gave a long hug to his sister, Dr. Fahimeh Ahmadi, 40, after she was
released from additional screening at Kennedy. The siblings had not seen each
other for over three years.
Dr. Ahmadi, a general practitioner in the Australian city of Gold Coast and a
dual citizen of Australia and Iran, arrived for a long-planned visit without the
siblings’ parents, who hold only Iranian passports and canceled their flights on
Saturday.
“My Mom said, ‘If they don’t let me in the country do you think I can see him
even for a half hour?’” Dr. Ahmadi recalled. “She said, ‘Is there a window where I
can see him?’”
Lawyers at J.F.K. said that about half a dozen detainees were still in custody by
late Sunday afternoon. The Los Angeles Police Department told lawyers there
earlier on Sunday that about 40 people were being held.
A federal judge in Alexandria, Va., on Saturday ordered government officials to
give lawyers access to all legal permanent residents being detained at Dulles. But
when lawyers showed border agents there the court order and requested access to
detainees, a supervisor replied, “That’s not going to happen.”
Matt Zeller, who runs No One Left Behind, a group that helps bring over Iraqis
and Afghans who worked for the military, said he was told that there were 40 to 55
people who had been pulled aside by customs officers at Dulles on Sunday evening,
and that at least some were Iraqis, although it was not clear if any had worked for
the military. Detainees who had been released overnight — many of whom had
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Disorder at Airports as Travelers Are Detained Without Lawyers - The New York Times

2/16/17, 9)07 AM

green cards — spoke of hours of uncertainty as they waited to find out if they would
be allowed into a country that they called home but that no longer seemed to want
them.
“This is not the America that I have lived in,” said one man who had been
released, Seifollah Moradi, 34, a student from Columbia, Md., who has a green
card. “We used to be treated with respect. This is the land of freedom.”
Mr. Moradi had been held for six hours after returning from Tehran, where he
was visiting his sick father.
Protesters, who were lined up just past the set of one-way doors that separate
the public areas of the Dulles arrival hall from the immigration and baggage claim
areas for international flights, cheered loudly as Mr. Moradi came through the
doors. They chanted, “Welcome to the U.S.A.,” and, “No hate, no fear, refugees are
welcome here.”
Mr. Moradi, his face drawn, hardly seemed to notice.
Reporting was contributed by Ruth Bashinsky, Sheri Fink, Sean Piccoli and Liz Robbins.
A version of this article appears in print on January 30, 2017, on Page A13 of the New York edition with the
headline: Confusion and Disorder at Airports as Travelers Are Detained Without Lawyers.

© 2017 The New York Times Company

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Exhibit FF

Exhibit GG

Exhibit HH