Viacom International, Inc. v. Youtube, Inc.
Filing
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APPENDIX, on behalf of Appellant Black Entertainment Television, LLC, Comedy Partners, Country Music Television, Inc., Paramount Pictures Corporation and Viacom International, Inc., FILED. Service date 12/10/2010 by CM/ECF. [165096] [10-3270]
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Viacom International, Inc. v. Youtube, Inc. D Doc. 124 Att.
Schapiro Exhibit 64
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C o u r t n e y Nieman From:
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Scott Martin Thursday, February 01,200712:29 PM Mark M. Ishikawa; Morril, Mark; Simon, Joe; Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com; Cahan, Adam; Cooper, Donna - B E T Evelyn Espinosa; Courtney Nieman; travis-forward; Prentice, Rebecca - Paramount RE: Takedown notices
To:
Cc:
Subject:
Importance: High Please assume the following for Paramount content: (i) (ii) notices can be sent for any content longer than 8 minutes (which should catch any full-length copies of films, even if posted in segments); assume that all Paramount notices for films prior to DREAMGIRLS are okay to be sent without comparison to marketing clips; assume that notices cannot be sent on clips of less than 8 minutes duration of Dreamgirls and all subsequent films (Le. Norbit, Blades of Glory, Transformers, Black Snake Moan, Zodiac, Shooter, Year of the Dog, Disturbia, Next, Shrek The Third, Hot Rod, A Mighty Heart) until we sort out the problem with the marketing clips.
(iii)
I expect to have an official approval of this deliniation within hours.
S
-----Original Message--F r o m : Mark M. Ishikawa [mailto:marki@baytsp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 01,200712:06 PM To: Morril, Mark; Simon, Joe; Hallie, Michelena; Cahan, Adam; Martin, Scott - P a r a m o u n t ; Cooper, Donna· BET Cc: Evelyn Espinosa; Courtney Nieman; travis-forward Subject: Re: Takedown notices Understood we will be on standby Please advise if we need to do anything about the paramount marketing clips. If we need to re scan those assets we will need up to 1 day to process the clips for the affected assets Mark Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device -----Original Message----F r o m : Morril, Mark To: Mark M. Ishikawa ; Simon, Joe ; Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com ; Cahan, Adam ; Scott Martin ; Cooper, Donna B E T
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From: Sent:
Mark M. Ishikawa Tuesday, October 03,20064:14 AM Evelyn Espinosa; Courtney Nieman; Deana Arizala
To:
Subject: FW: FW: Proposed links to take down
From: Perry, Alfred - Paramount [mailto:Alfred_Perry@Paramount.com] Sent: Monday, October 0 2006 7:44 PM To: Amy Powell Cc: Scott Marti Subject: RE: FW: Proposed links to take down
.com; Mark M. Ishikawa
Thanks, we look forward to hearing from you.
From: Amy Powell/Ma rketi ng/M P/Pa ramou nCPictu res@PARAMOUNT_PICTURES Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:24 PM To: Perry, Alfred - Paramount Cc: Martin, Scott - Paramount; Derwin-Weiss, Nancy - Paramount; Salter, John - Paramount Subject: Re: FW: Proposed links to take down
all of the clips that we syndicated have the official "warning" before the clip. any clip without the warning was not sent out by our dept. However, i need to speak to the publicity dept before confirming which should be taken down. I will follow up first thing in the AM. thanks.
Amy Powell Senior Vice President Interactive Marketing Paramount Pictures
-----Alfred Perry@exchange wrote: ----To: From: A Pe exc ange Date: 10/02/2006 07:01PM cc: Scott Martin/Business Affairs/MP/Paramount_Pictures@Paramount_Pictures, Nancy Derwin-Weiss/Business Affairs/MP/Paramount_Pictures@Paramount_Pictures, John Salter@exchange Subject: FW: Proposed links to take down
Amy, please confirm that these should betaken down (our guy thinks that these are not your clips). We await your confirmation before proceeding.
From: Dennis L. Wilson[mailto:dwilson@kmwlaw.com] Sent: Monday, October 02,20066:33 PM To: Perry, Alfred - Paramount Subject: Proposed links to takedown
AI,
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There are a lot of questionable Jackass 2 videos on youtubethat we cannot act on tonight without risking taking down unauthorized content. However, there are some videos that we believe we couldrequest be taken down. Perhaps these videos could be forwarded to theappropriate executives for review, including the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r66byYRFm4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtSu31JZTA; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2brTttAYReE; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7EAM8f9290; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5 IftgW2 k; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nASITzMokE8; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKjMvocOVtI; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4KrR6yoP A Y; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOJ61oeCOeY? .
Each of these is a fairly long clip and/or has languageindicating that it is not legitimate (e.g., ?here is the first 3 minutesof the movie?). Please let me know what action you would like me to take onthese, if any. Dennis
From: Perry, Alfred -Paramount [mailto:Alfred_Perry@Paramount.com] Sent: Monday, October 02,20065:23 PM To: Powell, Amy - Paramount Cc: Derwin-Weiss, Nancy -Paramount; Martin, Scott - Paramount; Salter, John - Paramount; Christiansen,Mark - Paramount Subject: FW: Illegal Jackass 2Footage Online
Amy, when you refer to many authorizedclips are you able to provide identifiers of them? Apparently, what is beingfound are stunt/skit clips rather than the full feature broken up into 1Ominute pieces (as is the case with other films from other studios). From: Mark M. Ishikawa[mailto:marki@baytsp.com] Sent: Monday, October 02,20065:03 PM To: Perry, Alfred - Paramount;dwilson@kmwlaw.com Cc: Martin, Scott - Paramount;Salter, John - Paramount; Christiansen, Mark - Paramount; Evelyn Espinosa;Courtney Nieman; Leland Woo; Richard Kawasaki; Deana Arizala Subject: RE: Illegal Jackass 2Footage Online AI, We have started getting results back from ourHigh Prioriry Radar system and we?re seeing something different than ourusual clips of 10 minute segments uploaded to YouTube. The pirates aresubmitting the content to YouTube broken down by individual stunt/skit. We are attempting to identify the content that appears to be camcordered, andis of the individual stunt/skit for takedown. Can you pis confirm thatnone of the stunts/skits are authorized by the studio? Mark
From: Perry, Alfred -Paramount [mailto:Alfred_Perry@Paramount.com] Sent: Monday, October 02, 20064:44 PM To: dwilson@kmwlaw.com; Mark M.Ishikawa Cc: Scott Martin; John Salter;Christiansen, Mark - Paramount Subject: FW: Illegal Jackass 2Footage Online
Ok, err on the side of leaving some infringing material up rather than being overly aggressive andtaking down one of the ?many approvedcli ps? Again, my direction would be to take down linked segmentswhich comprise all or nearly all of the motionpicture and is presumably camcorded (based on appearance, for example). Either of you know of other?social networking? sites such as You Tube which we might also devote our special kind of ?Iove??
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Please advise. Thank you.
From: AmlvPI)wl~1I Sent: Monday, To: Perry, Alfred - Paramount Cc: dwilson@kmwlaw.com; Salter,John - Paramount; marki@baytsp.com;Derwin-Weiss, Nancy - Paramount; Martin, Scott Paramount; Worsnup, Mickey -Paramount; rob moore@paramount.com Subject: Illegal Jackass 2 Footage Online Thanks, Alfred. Pleaseonly remove camcorded content (which is clearly pirated footage). Thereare many approved film clips online which should not be removed. feelfree to call with any questions or concerns. amy
Amy Powell Senior Vice President Interactive Marketing Paramount Pictures
----- Replied by AmyPowel1 on 10/2/2006 4:20:31 PM---------------------------------------------------------------------------From:Alfred Perry@exchange
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Saltelr@exl:;hange, Nancy Derwin-Weiss,dwilson@kmwlaw.com, marki@baytsp.com
We are going after thecamcorded versions of JackAss Nummber Two on YouTube, but would like to know ifyou have content you have authorized or if you are aware of other content whichshould not be taken down.
Thanks, in the firstinstance we are going after ?obviously? camcorded content.
Thank you.
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From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject:
Hallie, Michelena [Michelena.Hallie@mtvn.com] Thursday, October OS, 2006 10:25 PM Deana Arizala Mark M. Ishikawa; Morales, Cindy FW: Scan from a Xerox WorkCentre Pro Scan001.PDF
Attachments:
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Deana: Attached is a pdf of a signed authorization letter. It is on MTVN (which is a division of Viacom) letterhead though Viacom is the copyright owner of the copyrights. If you need it on Viacom letterhead, it will have to wait until Monday when my assistant returns. Please note that this authorization is limited only to particular shows, uploads or protocals identified by Cindy, myself or a designee. As of now Viacom authorizes only the takedowns of full episodes of "Avatar" that appear on youtube.com. You should also note that not all MTVN programming is owned by Viacom International so you will need additional authorizations for some of the programs we choose in the future to take down. Thank you for your assistance. Michelena Hallie Senior Vice President Deputy General Counsel, Intellectual Property MTV Networks, Business and Legal Affairs 1515 Broadway, 34th Floor New York New York 10036
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October 5, 2006 :v1ark Ishikawa, CEO BayTSP.com PO Box 1314 Los Gatos, CA 95031-1314 (408) 341-2300
Dear Mark, This letter acts as an official notification that I, Michelena I fallie. of Viaco111 International Inc, agent of its copyrighted material, authorize Mark Ishikawa, CEO of BayTSP.com to act as my agent for notification of detected infringements on the Intcrnct pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Nothing in this letter releases any exclusive rights that ViaC0111 International Inc. has in the copyrights that I represent. This agent authorization is merely to facilitate the process of notifying Internet service providers for removal of detected infringements that I have been made aware of by BayTSP.com and its tracking service reports. I reserve the right to terminate this agency relationship at any time for any reason by written notification. effective upon receipt at BayTSP.com.
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From: Sent: To: Cc:
Deana Arizala Friday, October 27,20064:10 PM Mark M. Ishikawa Evelyn Espinosa; Courtney Nieman
Subject: FW: Comedy Central/Spike TV Directives FYI, please read the message below. Thanks.
Deana Arizala Client Services Manager. 8ayTSP, Inc 408.341.2365 (direct) 408.341.2300 (voice) 408.341.2399 (fax)
From: Morales, Cindy [mailto:Cindy.Morales@mtvstaff.com] Sent: Friday, October 27,20067:17 AM To: Deana Arizala Cc: Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com Subject: Comedy Central/Spike 1V Directives Hi Deana, I have attached the information below on intentionally posted clips on YouTube that are authorized for Spike TV. Also, as it relates to the Spike TV and Comedy Centrals titles, we would like to have all clips that are 21/2 mins or greater removed off YouTube; EXCEPT for THE DAILY SHOW and COLBERT REPORT. For these two titles, we are requesting that you remove clips that are 5 minutes or longer.
Approved Spike TV link: http://www.youtube.com/spiketv Thanks. Cindy
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From: Sent:
To: Cc:
Subject: Importance:
Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com Monday, October 30,20068:43 PM Deana Arizala Morales, Cindy; Evelyn Espinosa The Daily Show and The Colbert Report High
We would like to change the length of clips of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report that should be taken down to 3 minutes or over rather than the current 5 minutes or over. (All other clip size criteria remain the same.) Please confirm receipt. Thanks, Deana.
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From: Sent: To: Cc:
Evelyn Espinosa Saturday, November 04,20067:15 PM Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com Mark M. Ishikawa; Deana Arizala
Subject: RE: Video Takedown Thanks Michelena, we will continue as directed. best, Evelyn
From: Michelena.haliie@mtvn.com Sent: Saturday, November 04,20063:59 AM To: Mark M. Ishikawa; Evelyn Espinosa; Deana Arizala Subject: Fw: Video Takedown
Just want to make sure this directive got to you: google as well as youtube takedowns should only be full episodes. Myspace and yahoo are ok to take down as originally directed. -----Original Message----From: Cahan, Adam To Hallie, Michelena Sent: Sat Nov 04 02: 55: 11 2006 Sub1ect: Fw: Video Takedown We should still be taking down as much as possible at my space. It's only google/youtube that has the full episode rule. -----Original Message----From: Deana Arizala To Hallie, Michelena CC: Courtney Nieman ; Evelyn Espinosa ; Mark M. Ishikawa ; Cahan, Adam Sent: Fri Nov 03 21: 16:07 2006 Subject: Video Takedown
Michelena,
Below are the Notice Sent counts for today, November 3,2006. Have a good weekend.
Best Regards, Deana Arizala
Summary:
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YouTube: Full Episodes: 149 Myspace: Full Episodes: 23 Yahoo Video: Full Episodes: 0 Google Video: Full Episodes: 115
P2P: Gnutella: 0, eDonkey: 44 (not sent-just for view)
YouTube
Full Episodes
Country Music Television
Count
CMT Music Awards
o
CountlY Fired Home Videos
o
Crossroads
o
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F o x w o t h y ' s Big Night Out
o
Trick My Truck
o
Comedy Central
South Park
21
The Colbert Report
5
The Daily Show
SpikeTV
Carpocalypes
o
King of Vegas
o
Most Xtrcmc Challenge
o
6/11/2008
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A-618
Pros Vs Jocs
o
Total Nonstop Action
o
Ultimate Fighting Championship
o
Viacom
Andy Milonakis
o
Avatar the Last Airbemler
96
Backyardigans
o
Beyond the Break
o
Blue's Room
o
Can't Get A Date
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o
Degrassi
6
Diego
o
Dora The Explorer
o
Drake & Josh 15
Fairly Odd Parents 5
GLAAD Media Awards
o
Greatest TV Quotes and Catch Phrases
o
Hi-Jinks
o
I Pity the Fool
o
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J a c k ' s Big Music Show
o
Laguna Beach
o
Naked Rrothers Rand
o
Noah's Arc
3
Real World
o
Sit Down Comedy with David Steinberg
o
South of Nowhere
o
Sponge bob Squarepants
3
TV Land Myths and Legends
o
TV T,and Present the 100
o
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VMAAwards
o
Wonder Pets
o
Zoey 101
o
Total 149
Google Video
Full Episodes
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Country Music Television
Count
CMT Music Awards
o
Country Fired Home Videos
o
Crossroads
o
Poxwothy' s I3ig Night Out
o
Trick My Truck
o
Comedy Central
South Park
o
The Colbelt RepOlt
o
The Daily Show
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4
SpikcTV
Carpocalypes
o
King of Vegas
o
Most Xtreme Challenge
o
Pros Vs Joes
o
Total Nonstop Action
o
Ultimate Fighting Championship
2
Viacom
Andy Milonakis
o
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Avatar the Last Airbender
G7
Baekyardigans
o
Beyond the Break
o
Blue's Room
o
Can't Get A Date
o
Degrassi
o
Diego
o
Dora The Explorer
o
Drake & Josh
o
Fairly Odd Parents
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GLAAD Media Awards
o
Greatest TV Quotes and Catch Phrases
o
Hi-Jinks
o
I Pity the Fool
o
Jack's Big Music Show
o
Laguna Beach
II
Naked Brothers Band
o
Noah's Arc
o
Real World
o
Sit Down Comedy with David Steinberg
o
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South of Nowhere 10
Spongcbob Squarcpants 20
TV T,and Myths and T,egends
o
TV Land Present the 100
o
VMAAwards
o
Wonder Pets
o
Zoey 101
o
Total 115
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Yahoo Video
Clips
Pull Episodes
Country Music Television
Count
CMT Music Awards
o
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Country Fired Home Videos
o
Crossroads
o
Foxwothy' s Big Night Out
o
Trick My Truck
o
Comedy Central
South Park
o
The Colbert Report
o
The Daily Show
o
SpikeTV
Carpocalypcs
o
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King of Vcgas
o
Most Xtreme Challenge
o
Pros Vs Joes
o
Total Nonstop Action
o
Ultimate righting Championship
o
Viacom
Andy Milonakis
o
Avatar the Last Airbender
o
Backyardigans
o
Beyond the Break
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o
Blue's Room
o
Can't Get A Date
o
Degrassi
o
Diego
o
Dora The Explorer
o
Drake & Josh
o
Fairly Odd Parents
o
GLAAD Media Awards
o
Greatest TV Quotes and Catch Phrases
o
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Hi-Jinks
o
I Pity the Fool
o
Jack's Rig Music Show
o
Laguna Beach
o
Naked Brothers Band
o
Noah's Arc
o
Real World
o
Sit Down Comedy with David Steinberg
o
South of Nowhere
o
Spongebob Squarepants
o
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TV Land Myths and Legends
o
TV Land Present the 100
o
VMAAwards
o
Wonder Pets
o
Zoey 101
o
Total
o
MySpaee
Full Episodes
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CountJy Music Television
Count
CMT Music Awards
o
Country Fired Home Videos
o
Crossroads
o
Foxwothy' s Big Night Out
o
Trick My Tmck
o
Comedy Central
South Park
o
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The Colbert Report
o
The Daily Show
o
SpikeTV
C arpoealypes
o
King of Vegas
o
Most Xtreme Challenge
o
Pros Vs Joes
o
Total Nonstop Action
o
Ultimate Fighting Championship
o
Viaeom
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Andy Milonakis
o
Avatar the Last Airbender
o
Backyardigans
o
Beyond the Break
o
Blue's Room
o
Can't Get A Date
o
Uegrassi
o
Diego
o
Dora The Explorer
o
Drake & Josh
o
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Fairly Odd Parents 2
GLAAD Mcdia Awards
o
Greatest TV Quotes and Catch Phrases
o
Hi-Jinks
o
I Pity the Fool
o
Jack's Dig Music Show
o
Laguna Beach
o
Naked Brothers Band
o
Noah's Arc
o
Real World
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o
Sit Down Comedy with David Steinberg
o
South of Nowhere 10
Sponge bob Squarepants 11
TV Land Myths and Legends
o
TV Land Present the 100
o
VMAAwards
o
Wonder Pets
o
Zoey 101
o
Total
23
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P2P (Not sent)
Country Music Television
Gnutella eDonkey
CMT Music Awards
o
o
Country Fired Home Videos
o
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o
Crossroads
o o
P oxwothy' s I3ig Night Out
o
o
Trick My Truck
o o
Comedy Central
South Park
o
o
The Colbelt Repmi
o o
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The Daily Show
o o
SpikeTV
Carpocalypes
o o
King of Vegas
o
o
Most Xtreme Challenge
o
o
Pros Vs Joes
o o
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Total Nonstop Action
o o
Ultimate Fighting Championship
o
o
Viacom
Andy Milonakis
o
o
Avatar the Last Airbender
o
o
Backyardigans
o
2
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Beyond the Break
o o
Blue's Room
o
o
Can't Get A Date
o o
Degrassi
o
o
Diego
o
o
Dora The Explorer
o
o
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A-643
Drake & Josh
o
o
Fairly Odd Parcnts
o
o
GLAAD Media Awanls
o o
Greatest TV Quotes and Catch Phrases
o
o
Hi-Jinks
o
o
I Pity the Fool
o
o
Jack's Big Music Show
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o
o
Laguna Beach
o
o
Naked Brothers Band
o o
Noah's Arc
o
o
Real World
o o
Sit Down Comedy with David Steinberg
o
o
South of Nowhere
o
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o
Spongcbob Squarcpants
o
o
Hogan Knows Rest
o
41
Breaking Bonaduce
o
VMAAwards
o o
Wonder Pets
o
o
Zoey 101
o
o
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Total
o
44
Deana Arizala Client Services Manager. BayTSP, Inc 408.34l.2365 (direct) 408.34l.2300 (voice) 408.341.2399 (fax)
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From: Sent: To: Cc:
Evelyn Espinosa Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:12 PM Deana Arizala Courtney Nieman; Sarah Cruz
Subject: FW: MTVN Weekly Report October 30,2006 - November 5,2006 pis confirm with michelena
From: Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:05 AM To: Evelyn Espinosa Cc: Mark M. Ishikawa; Courtney Nieman; Cahan, Adam; Deana Arizala; Morales, Cindy; Sarah Cruz Subject: RE: MTVN Weekly Report October 30, 2006 - November 5, 2006 Are we up and running on taking down clips offyoutube now?
From: Evelyn Espinosa [mailto:evelyn@baytsp.com] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:00 PM To: Hallie, Michelena Cc: Mark M. Ishikawa; Courtney Nieman; Cahan, Adam; Deana Arizala; Morales, Cindy; Sarah Cruz Subject: RE: MTVN Weekly Report October 30, 2006 - November 5, 2006 Importance: High Michelena, This serves to confirm your new directive below. Please be advised that it will take a day or two to re-sort through the material for the clip length change. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Evelyn
From: Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:05 PM To: Sarah Cruz Cc: Mark M. Ishikawa; Evelyn Espinosa; Courtney Nieman; Cahan, Adam; Deana Arizala; Morales, Cindy Subject: RE: MTVN Weekly Report October 30, 2006 - November 5, 2006 Importance: High Sarah, we would like to implement effective immediately our original policy to take down all clips that have been identified as exclusively our material under the following criteria: - Daily Show and Colbert Report: 3 minutes or longer - All other shows on our list: 2 112 minutes or longer If you identify any clips of the above lengths that include any material other than our own programs, do not remove them until they have been submitted to me and I have approved removal. Please confirm receipt of this new directive.
Miehelena Hallie Senior Vice President Deputy General Counsel, Intellectual Property MTV Networks, Business and Legal Affairs
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1515 Broadway, 34th Floor York 10036
From: Deana Arizala [mailto:deanaa@baytsp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 08,20068:11 PM To: Hallie, Michelena; Morales, Cindy Cc: Mark M. Ishikawa; Evelyn Espinosa; Courtney Nieman; Cahan, Adam; Sarah Cruz Subject: MlVN Weekly Report October 30, 2006 - November 5, 2006 Importance: High
Michelena, Enclosed is the Weekly Report from October 30,2006 - November 5,2006. I had emailed this report in advance because I will be out of the office tomorrow till November 13, 2006. Please direct any update or request to Sarah. Her email is sarahc@baytsp.com. If it is urgent, please contact Evelyn or Mark. Thank you.
Best Regards, Deana Arizala
Deana Arizala Client Services Manager. BayTSP, Inc 408.341.2365 (direct) 408.341.2300 (voice) 408.341.2399 (fax)
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From: Sent: To: Cc:
Deana Arizala Friday, November 17, 200610:48 PM Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com; Courtney Nieman Mark M. Ishikawa; Evelyn Espinosa; Morales, Cindy
Subject: RE: 24 hour advance notice on rule changes. Michelena, I just want to inform you that yes; Cindy and I spoke and clarified the misunderstanding. Furthermore, we will go ahead and add the list below on our system. We will NOT take down any of the new shows listed below till instructed.
Best Regards, Deana Arizala
Deana Arizala Client Services Manager. BayTSP, Inc 408.341.2365 (direct) 408.341.2300 (voice) 408.341.2399 (fax)
From: Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:38 PM To: Courtney Nieman; Deana Arizala Cc: Mark M. Ishikawa; Evelyn Espinosa; Morales, Cindy Subject: RE: 24 hour advance notice on rule changes. Ok. Good to go. Please make the changes noted. I understand we can expect a report on the amount and sizes of the clips on the new shows within a week. After getting that material we will instruct on the size of clips to take down. So until that time, no clips from this new list should be taken down. In contrast, clips from the original list that remain on the list (ie excluding those in yellow that are being deleted) should be taken down as previously noted. In other words the original list as modified should have take downs of 2 1/2 minutes for all but Daily and Colbert which should be taken down at 3 minutes. I understand Deana and Cindy clarified the misunderstanding and we are taking down ALL shows but Colbert and Daily at 21/2 minutes. Please let me know if that is incorrect.
From: Hallie, Michelena Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:07 PM To: 'Courtney Nieman' Cc: 'Mark M. Ishikawa'; 'Evelyn Espinosa'; 'Deana Arizala' Subject: RE: 24 hour advance notice on rule changes. No final word but once I do get the sign off -- it should be Jimmy Neutron not Jimmy Neutro
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From: Hallie, Michelena Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:58 PM To: 'Courtney Nieman' Cc: Mark M. Ishikawa; Evelyn Espinosa; Deana Arizala Subject: RE: 24 hour advance notice on rule changes.
Tthink that makes sense. Next time Ttell you to change course on a dime, slap me
And subject to your new 24 hour rule, the direction now is to stay the course with 3 minutes on Colbert and Daily and 2 112 on all else. But we will also want you to substitute out the programs in yellow in the first grid below for the programs listed in the lower grid
I'll give you final authorization by COB today.
Btw, I'll be in London next Monday and flying back tuesday, but accessible by email when not in flight.
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Chappelle Show (CC) Comedy Central Presents (CC) Drawn Together (CC) Mind of Mencia (CC) Reno 911! (CC) Stella (CC) Upright Citizen Brigade (CC) Punk'd (MTV) Pimp My Ride (MTV) Beavis & Butthead (MTV) Celebrity Death Match (MTV) Best Week Ever (VIII) Mr. Meaty (Nick) Jimmy Neutro (Nick) Unfabulous (Nick) Amanda Show (Nick)
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From: Courtney Nieman [mailto:courtneyni@baytsp.com] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:19 PM To: Hallie, Michelena Cc: Mark M. Ishikawa; Evelyn Espinosa; Deana Arizala; Courtney Nieman Subject: 24 hour advance notice on rule changes. Michelena,
I would like to make a suggestion: any rule changes should be submitted 24 hours in advance of implementation. To allow for the change of mind that might take place. (Emergency changes, stop orders, and immediate take down orders, will be exempted from the 24 hour notice.)
New assets (titles) can be added immediately. We would not begin enforcement activity on a new asset for at least 24 hours, due to the time it takes to gather infringements. So, this suggestion would not affect a new asset. What do you think? Courtney From: Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:41 AM To: Deana Arizala; Courtney Nieman Cc: Cahan, Adam Subject: Daily and Colbert
If you haven't already started please hold off on takedowns under new criteria for Daily and Colbert. I'll let you know how to proceed shortly.
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Michelena, We have completed our initial scans and removal of the selected assets from YouTube as per your instructions. We will continue to scan and remove assets as they are uploaded. I did some scanning of the remaining assets which did not meet the "appears like entire episodes" model and quite a bit remains. e are eavmg a majority 0 t e content on ou u e. have other clients that will send takedown notices for clips as short as 4 seconds as long as its identifiable as the content. Let me know if you want to discuss this. Thx Mark
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Michelena.hallie@mtvn.com Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:57 AM Courtney Nieman Evelyn Espinosa; Deana Arizala; Mark M. Ishikawa; Sarah Cruz
Subject: Re: Time Breakdown of Clips from yesterday.
I would like a call between 2:30 and 5:30 NY time tomorrow. It is essential that I have a thorough understanding of what is going on. Please let me know what time works [or you. -----Original Message----From: Hallie, Michelena To 'courtneyni@baytsp.com' CC: 'evelyn@baytsp.eom' ; 'deanaa@baytsp.eom' ; 'marki@baytsp.com' ; 'sarahc@baytsp.eom' Sent: Wed Nov 152132:252006 Subject: Re: Time Breakdown of Clips from yesterday. Sorry. I should have hit Reply All. (I initially sent this only to Courtney) First, what about Daily Show and Colbert that were longer than 2 1/2 minutes and shorter than 3 minutes? And does this mean there were only 36 clips passed over on youtube? I can't believe there were only 44 o[ our clips total on youtube since we didn't remove any clips last week. (My recollection is we took only 8 down under our criteria.). Is that right') -----Original Message----From: Courtney Nieman To Hallie, Michelena CC: Evelyn Espinosa : Deana Arizala : Mark M. Ishikawa : Courtney Nieman ; Sarah Cruz Sent: Wed Nov 152120:532006 Subject: Time Breakdown of Clips from yesterday. Michelena, Here is the break down o[ the "Passed On" clips [rom yesterday's report Time Break Down of Video Clips Length * 0-60 277 61-90 150 91-120 61 121-15052 151-18010 YouTube My Space Google Total % 14 41 332 47% 12 33 195 2S% 17 84 12% 6 4 6 62 9% 1 18 29 4% 550 37 115 *Clip length is reported in seconds.
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR' THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION PREMIER LEAGUE LIMITED, BOURNE CO., et al.,) on behalf of themselves and all ) others similarly situated, ) Plaintiffs, vs. YOUTUBE, INC., YOUTUBE, LLC, and GOOGLE, INC., Defendants.
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As you sit here today,
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definitively state that the publishing company never received such a request. But I think I would have heard of it. Q. company" A. I am referring to our When you say "the publishing
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Going back to the Young Vic
reference that you made before, why did R&H, in this case, allow the work to be
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posted on YouTube? A. Because this particular
customer feels that it is important for their promotion of their production.
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Any previous discussions
among me and management were related to this litigation and, privileged. Q. Is this the only therefore,
circumstance that you are aware of in
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license from the Rodgers & Hammerstein Organization on behalf of our client, Irving Berlin. It is a first-class
contract prepared a number of years ago.
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It may go back as far as 2003,
although I am not sure. And the website for White Christmas, The Musical, has a link, I think that's what it is called, I think a link to YouTube where they show clips
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So this was a use that we
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It played on Broadway last season, which I believe was the first time that they put up these links. So you can
call it a Broadway production, if that helps.
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Did R&H ever object to this
particular use of its work on YouTube? A. We did not because we felt
it was authorized by the contract and that it was something that we were
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contract, would R&H still be willing to permit it? A.
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language specifically allowing use on YouTube. Our first class contracts
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believe it is formulated as radio, television and Internet media uses.
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Are you aware of whether R&H
has issued these types of first-class licenses for any of the works in suit?
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These licenses would not We
have been for the works in suit. have had various first-class
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productions of The Sound of Music which contains some of the works in suit. But I honestly don't know if the same language is in every first-class contract.
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Do you have a sense of what
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I am going
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understanding was we weren't going to go at specific clauses, but this is specifically relevant to a number of subjects in Exhibit 1. MR. STELLINGS: You have
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asking generally what are the general practices. There are no
documents in front of the witness. So in any event, is the
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Annie Get Your Gun case.
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circumstance, have there been any others? A.
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please. (Whereupon, the aforementioned Notices of Infringement, RH00153606-'153613, were marked as Defendant's Exhibit 4 for identification as of this
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date by the Reporter.)
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When you are ready, look up
and I will start questioning. Can you identify these documents? A. Yes. These were Notices of
Infringement prepared for me, and bearing my signature, relating to use on YouTube, a number of musical composition from an amateur production of Annie Get Your Gun presented by the
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Did YouTube respond promptly
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The document speaks for itself. But you can answer. A.
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I see here that we have got Sorry,
a response on April 30th.
April 29th, to a Notice filed by fax on April 28th.
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Has R&H ever had a problem
with YouTube not responding
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Takedown Notices? A. These in particular?
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This is in my
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website and we sent the second Letter
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sub-publishers with respect to potential authorization for all of the clips in suit? A. know.
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And the answer is, I don't
Earlier you mentioned that
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have to talk to is me because any requests from a sub-agent would have come from me, and I would have told my counsel if I had agreed to any use on YouTube.
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But you, yourself, have not
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They
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comes to mind, now that I think about it, is the -- we talked about the Dutch television program. There was a clip
using one of The Sound of Music songs related to that program. And again
let's see what I can say without getting into privileged material. We
licensed that clip after we discovered
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And you licensed the right
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Yes. And do you remember the name
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of the Dutch television show? A. No. It was -- b u t it was It was a star
something about Maria.
Search program to cast the role of Maria.
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show reach out to you in particular to get a license to have the work posted on YouTube? A. happened.
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The clip came to our
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of public attention.
in the process of being bought by a Dutch company and it just seemed to us, from a public relations standpoint, that we were better off licensing it than sending a Takedown Notice.
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issued? A. Some time in the last year. MR. FRANTZ: We will request
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have the work on YouTube? MR. STELLINGS: Object to
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public relations standpoint, to have taken down a clip that had already gotten a fair amount of attention. It
was just -- i t was our business sense. It was a business decision that it was -- s i n c e it is our position that we need to control how our
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information about the specific document. MR. FRANTZ: As well as the
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YouTube clips.
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Do you recall viewing any
clips on YouTube?
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have you taken any steps to make sure that a particular clip you viewed is
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Facebook is blocked.
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that YouTube had been blocked at work? A. Because I just couldn't
believe that they would do something in connection with -- r e l a t e d to an ongoing litigation without talking to the general counsel of the company.
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It is not really a decision
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there anyone else that would know that? A. Well, I don't think so. It was reported
Bill Gaden might know. to him at the time.
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Are you aware of
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION PREMIER LEAGUE LIMITED, BOURNE CO., et al.,) on behalf of themselves and all ) others similarly situated, ) ) Plaintiffs, ) Case No. vs. ) 07-CV-3582 ) ) YOUTUBE, INC., YOUTUBE, LLC, and ) GOOGLE, INC., ) ) Defendants. ) ) VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF: MARYANN SLIM NEW YORK, NEW YORK FRIDAY, OCTOBER 23, 2009
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FOR THE DEFENDANTS YOUTUBE, INC., YOUTUBE, LLC and GOOGLE, INC.: MAYER BROWN, LLP BY: ARIC S. JACOVER, ESQ. FIDELIS I. AGBAPURUONWU, ESQ. 1675 Broadway New York, New York 10019 (212) 506-2146 Asjacover@mayerbrown.com Fagbapuruonwu@mayerbrown.com
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YouTube, for Stage Three UK, probably between 10 and 20.
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licensing of the song, Rock & Roll Queen in the Guy Ritchie film, RocknRolla; is that correct?
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That's correct. Is Rock & Roll Queen a US
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It is a UK work. Do you know if that
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Objection.
You can answer, if you know. A. Again, I have not seen
written documentation, but I would think that it is.
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Who is the writer of Rock &
Roll Queen? A. Morgan. It is Morgan, Cooper, So it is Philip Morgan,
Charlotte Cooper and Joshua Morgan.
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If you can turn to the
second page of this document, you write, "I approve the attached request to use Rock & Roll Queen in the Guy Ritchie film, RocknRolla as per the
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So this grant of rights
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permits the licensee -- t h e licensee to post the synchronized content on websites that allow both downloading and streaming?
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were limited only to streaming, would that still permit the licensee to post on YouTube? MR. STELLINGS: Objection.
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As the -- i f the film
company was intending to stream the film on YouTube, then that would be covered.
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video on YouTube, that would be covered as well? A. Only insofar as how the song You
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cannot pull the song out and lay it over other bits of the film.
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You can answer, if you know. A.
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No. So if anyone would know, you
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that question. A. We would -- I would be
informed if anyone else at Stage Three knew and I didn't.
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Would that information be
included on the Excel spreadsheet on licensing?
A.
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Which information? The information on whether
the licensee posted content on YouTube
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pursuant to this license.
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ever posted content on YouTube pursuant to this license? A. We got the I don't believe they did. the film company
delivered the parts to us late, way down the line. So I don't think they I can't
actually used it in the end.
confirm this, but I don't think they did because it was well past after the film had been out.
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This appears to be a fully
executed license Agreement for the song, Rock & Roll Queen, to be used in an Internet advertisement by Harman
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Correct. Do you recognize this
license? A.
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I have seen it, yes. Licensor, on the top, is
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the US office. Stage Three UK.
UK song being issued out of the US for the territory of the US. wording.
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Hence, the
If you look at section 6,
"Grant of Rights" -- S e c t i o n 6(a), I should say, it allows use on YouTube in non-downloadable streaming video format. A.
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Do you see that? Yes, I do. Do you know if the licensee
posted any content on YouTube pursuant to this license?
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t h em t he r i g ht t o do i t , w e w o u l dn ' t go a n d c h ec k u p o n w h et he r th ey h ad d o n e i t o r no t. Q. Do es S ta ge T hr ee U K ev e r
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b e tw e e n yo u r se lf a nd T h e re sa T or ra n ce w i th t he s u b je ct , "I B o x U p A l l Th e B u tt e r fl ie s , T he B oy L e a st L i k el y T o, E L LE M ag az i n e vi d e o re q u es t. " A. Q. e x ch a n ge ? A. Q. I do . On t h e f ir s t p ag e , T he r e s a Co rr e c t. Do y o u r ec o g ni ze t hi s E - m a il
T o rr a n ce w r i te s t o y ou , "I d i d n ot i ce t h ey w an t t o e xh i b it o n Yo uT u b e. We
a r e i n a C l a ss A c t io n l a ws ui t ag ai n st Y o uT u b e so p le as e ma ke s ur e a n y l i ce n s es w h i ch g r a nt u n l im it e d I nt e rn e t r i gh t s e xc l u de e x h ib it i o n on Y ou Tu b e. " D o y o u s ee t ha t? A. I do .
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correct? Correct. What would you use to check
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I would look through the Because if there was a case
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that it is being used in.
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