Log Cabin Republicans v. United States of America et al

Filing 195

Opposition re: MOTION IN LIMINE to Exclude Lay Witness Testimony #180 filed by Plaintiff Log Cabin Republicans. (Attachments: #1 Declaration of Melanie Scott and Exh A)(Woods, Daniel)

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Los Anseles.
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DAN WOODS (SBN 78638) FERNANDO AENLLE-ROCHA (SBN 12951 5) RACHEL J. FELDMAN (SBN 2463e4) WHITE & CASE LI-P 633 W. Fifth Street, Suite 1900 e:

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Attornevs for Plaintiff Log Ca6in Republicans

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LNITED STATES DISTRICT COIJRT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
EASTERN DIVISION

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LOG CABIN REPIJBLICANS, a nonprofrt corporation, Plaintiff,
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and ROBERT M. GATES, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, in his official capacity,
Defendants.

DECLARATION OF MELANIB C. SCOTT IN SUPPORT OF PLAINTIFF LOG CABIN RBPUBLICANS' OPPOSITIONI TO DEFENDANTS' MOTION 1¡/ LIMII{E TO BXCLUDE LAY WITI{ESS TESTIMONY
Date: June 28, 2010 Tirne: 2:30 o.rn. Place: Courtroorn of Judge Phillips

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DBCLARATION OF MBLANTB C. SCOTT
I, Melanie C. Scott, declare:

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I am an attorney admitted to practice before all courls of the State of
Case LLP, counsel of record for

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California and the United States District Court for the Central District of California.

I am an associate with the firm White &

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Log Cabin Republicans ("Log Cabin"). I submit this declaration in support of Log Cabin's opposition to Defendants' Motion ín Límine to ExcludeLay Witness

Testimony. I have personal knowledge of the facts stated herein or know of such
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rry review of the file in this case, and, if called upon to do so, could
At the hearing on April 26,2010, the Courl stated that it was inclined

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competently testify thereto.

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to apply the heightened standard of scrutiny adopted by the Ninth Circuit in 'Witt v.

Dedt of the Air Force, 527 F,3d 806, 819 (9th Cir. 2008). Based on the Court's
statement, Log Cabin's counsel realized the necessity of introducing testirnony

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former servicernembers at trial to show DADT's impact on the rrilitary and the
manner of its enforcement.

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Three weeks prior to the hearing, on April 6,2010, I had ernailed, via

Facebook, Former Mjr. Michael Ahny and Former Sgt. Stephen Vossler requesting they contact me to discuss their experiences under DADT so that I could determine whether they had information relevant to this case. On April 7,2010, I spoke with

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Former Sgt. Vossler, and on April 8,2010, I spoke with Former Mjr. Almy. During
those conversations, Former Mjr. Almy and Former Sgt. Vossler explained their experiences in the military, and

I gave them general information concerning this

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case. At that time, we had not decided whether fact testimony was relevant to Log Cabin's case.

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Following the hearing on April26,2010, and our determination that

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lay witness testimony was important and relevant, I contacted Former Lt. Jenny L.

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Kopfstein, Former PO3 Joseph Christopher Rocha, and Former Ssgt. Anthony
Loverde on May 6,2010, and also Former Mjr. Almy and Former Sgt. Vossler, to

inquire about their experiences under DADT. I asked them atthat time whether
they would be willing to participate as a testifying witness but explained that we
had not yet made a final determination concerning fact witnesses.

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On May 17,,2010, Patrick Hunnius, a former partner at White & Case,

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sent Defendants' counsel an email, on which

I was blind copied, identifying the

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witnesses Log Cabin intends to call attrial, including Former Mjr, Almy, Former

Lt. Kopfstein, Former SSgt. Loverde, Former PO3 Rocha, and Former Sgt. Stephen
Vossler, a copy

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is attached to the Motion.

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On May 20,2010, Mr. Flunnius sent Defendants' counsel an email, on

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which I was blind copied, stating that we would not object to Defendants' deposing
the fuct witnesses prior to trial, a copy of which is attached to the Motion. As of

today's date, Defendants have not taken any steps to schedule depositions of the
fact witnesses.
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On December 21,2009, my office served on Defendants "Log Cabin

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Republicans'Notice of Deposition of lJnited States of Arnerica and Robert M.
Gates, Secretary of Defense Pursuant to F.R.C.P. 30(bX6)" ("30(b)(6) Deposition

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Notice"). A true and correct copy of the 30(bX6) Deposition Notice is attached
hereto as Exhibit A.

I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the lJnited
Los Angeles, California.

States

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Arnerica the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on June 22,2010, at

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DBCLAIìATION OF MEI-ANIE C. SCOTT

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EXHIBIT A

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Ernail: Email: Bmail:

J, ì-JAGAN (State Bar No, Pending) 633 W. Irilth strcct, Suite 1900 I.os Anseles. CA 90071-2007 l-clcpho"ne : (zl s ) 620-77 o0 Facsirnile: (2131 452-2329 dwoods(Ðwhitecase,corn phunniul(Ðwhitecase.corn
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WI_IITE & CASE LLP DAN WOODS (State Bar No. 78638) I)A'llìICl( I IUNNIUS (SLatc Bar No. 174633)

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Attorncys for Plaintiff I,OG CÂBIN RI]i)UBLICANS
UNIITED STATI]S DISTRICT COIJRT

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CENTRAI, DISTRICT OIì CAI,IFORNIA t,OC CABIN REPIJI3LICANS
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Plaintifl;
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I-OG CABINI REPUBLICANS' NOTICE OF DEPOSII'ION OI'I

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LJNI'I'ED S'IATES Olì AMERICA and ROBI]RT' M. GATES, SECRETARY OF DEIìIJNSE, in his official capacity, Delèndants.

UNITIID S]'A'fllS Otr AMEIIICA and ROI]EIìT M. GA'I'I]S. SìJCIìI]TARY OF DI]FENS]] PURSUANI' TO F,R.C.P, 30(bx6)

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ALL PARI]I]S AND'II-{I]IR COUNSEL OII RI]CORD:
PI-EASII 1'AI(E NOTICE TIIAT on January 25,2010, commencing at

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9:00 a,rn. at the offices of White &, Case LLP located at701 J'hirteenth street, NW,

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Waslrington, District of Columbia,20005-3807 , or at such othel time as the parties
agree, Plaintifl'l-OG CABIN REPUBI,ICANS

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tal<e the deposition upon oral

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examination under oath of f)el'endants IJNITìID STAT'FIS OF AML]RICA and

IìOBERT M. GATES, SECRETAIìY OF DEFENSE, pursuant to Federal Iìule of'

Civil Prooeclure 30(lrx6). If the deposition is not completed on the agreed uporl

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will continue day to day, excluding

weekends and holidays, as necessary, until

completed, The cfeposition will talce place before a certilìed court reportel authorizecl to adlninister oaths and will be recorded stenographically, by videotape, and through
the instant visual clisplay of testilnony. Plaintilf reserves the light to use the videotape

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of the deposition at the time of trial or at such other time as rnay be applopr"iate.
This notice names a governmental agenoy as a depclnent. lJnder tlre provisions

of'Rule 30(bX6), DeÍèndants shall identi$, and produce for deposition one or rnore officers, directors, rnanaging agents
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behalf and are the officers, directols, agents or other persons most lcnowledgeable
to the matters set f'orth below.

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At the deposition, testitlony will be sought lelated to the following topics,

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Defbndants have an objection to ploviding testimony concerning any specifìc topic,

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we reqllest that Defendants let us know of that objection well prior to the noticed date

of the deposition so that we will have time to atternpt to resolve the objection plior to
the date of deposition. Iìurther, we request that Defendants identify the representative

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who will be testifying on eaoh topic at least f,rve business days prior to the deposition
to assist us in conclucting an clJìcicltt ancl procluctive deposition,

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DEIIINITIONS 'l'he fòllowing tenns shall have the meanings set forth below:

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"Defendants" mearls United States of Arnerica, and its current and f.onner

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etnployees, ¿lttol'neys, accountants, agents, officers, deparlments, and representatives,

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"DOD" ffteans the tJnited States Department ol'Def.ense. 'fhe tenn "relating to" means consisting of, constituting, concerning,

relerring to, embocìying, oornprising, reflecting, iclentifying, stating, dealing with,
comnrenting on, respondirrg to, describing, evidencing, analy'z\ng, conterining

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information concerning, or in any way perlaining to the subject matter of the
Requests, whether directly or indirectly.

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"Policy" shall lnean the so-callecJ "Don't Ask, I)on't Tell, Don't Pursue"

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policy, codified as fcderal law in Title 10, Seotion 654 of the lJnited States Code,
entitled "Policy Concerning l-lornosexuality in the Armed liot'ces," and any l)eparttnent of Defense regr-rlations prornulgated pursuant to

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10, Section 654

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the United States Code, inch"rding, but not limited to, the following:

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the rnenrorandum datecl lrebruary 5, 1994 fìom Del'ense Secretary

Les Aspin to 1he service secretaries and the Chailrnan of the.loint Chiefs of Staff

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entitled "lmplementation of DOD Policy on Ilomosexual Conduct in the Armed
FoLces" (r'eferred to hereinafler as the "hnplementation Memorandum");

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DOD Dilective 1304.26 entitled "Qualification Standards for

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Enlistrnent, Appointlnent and Induotion";
the melnorandurn from Assistant Defense Secretary Edwin Dom to

the assistant service secretaries entitled "Ilriefing Armed F'orces Applicants" (ref.erred

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to hereinafter as the "IJriefing Mernoranclum");

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Separations";

DOD Directive 1332,14 entitled "llnljsted Administrative

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DOD l)irective 1332.30 entitlecl "Separation of Regular
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Commissioned Offì cers"

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DOD Instruction 5505.8 entitled "Investigations of Sexual

Misconcluct by the Defense Crilninal Investigative Organizations al'rd Other DoD Law
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the memorandum fi'orn the Deputy DeJbnse Secretary to the

secretat'ies of the military clepartments entitled "lmplernentation of 'Policy Guidelines

on Flotnosexual Conduct in the Armecl lìorces' in Personnel Seourity Investigation and

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Adjudication" (ref'erred to hereinalter as tl"re "lnvestigation and Adjudication
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the tnelrorandum froln Assistant Defense Secretary lidwin Dorn to

the assistant service secretaries entitled "Training Guidance t'or DOD Policy on

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Ilolnosexual Conduct in the Armed lìorces," and the attached "I)OD Policy on
I-lomosexual Conduct Training Plan" (referred to hereinafter collectively as the

"T'raining Plan Memorandum"),

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"Unitecl States Armed Forces" rel'ers to all branches of the United States

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rnilitary inclurding the Air Force, Army, Marines, Navy, National Guard, Coast Guard
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'l-he application of'the Policy to wornen service mernbers, inoluding: (1)

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the manner in which the Policy is implementecl with respect to therl; (2) the rnanner in

which allegations concelning wornen service members are investigated; (3) the
nulnber of wcllnen service rnembers against whom investigations ancl separation
prooeedings are injtiated as a peroentage clf investigations and separation prooeedings

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initiated against all service mernbers; and (3) the numl¡er of wolnen service members

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discharged under the Policy as a percentage of the total nun-rber ol'dischr a ncler uncler ercentage 01 numlrer ol', ol

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'Ihe app 'Ihe application oi'the: Policy to rnedical, linguistic, adminis ad a 'fhe application of the: Policy to servioe members deployed dep depl

other non-oombat-assigned servicel members. non-oombat-assi gned

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cclurbat theatres fi'orn 2001 to the present, sr¡ch as Operation Enduring Fr r rresent, Endu Endur

Afghaniisttan and Operation lraqi lìreedorn, including the total numt n s an reedorn, numb nun

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merlbe¡rrs clischarged or investigatecll pursuant to the Policy, any con s c cc
discussion or deliberation regarding whether to suspend either the F ln g Poiicy,

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investigation pursuant to the Policy or any discharge proceeding ini g proceeding ir / initi Policy,

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'Ihe compatibility or incompatibility of gay and lesbi¿ bility ncompatibility lesbiar lesbia
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service in the Unitecl States Armed lìorces, ir-roluding the effect of the presence of e lìorces, th

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inclividualls,, if any, on unit cohesion,, cclrnbat effectiveness, unit rnc Jua s :r ccllnbat rnor rnorale, good order, disciplliine,, and readiness to figlit, ne

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'fexas. 539 The effect or lack of effect of'Lawrence v. 'fexas.,, 539 l[ lac ffect

the Policy, the a¡rplication of the Policy, or the legality ol'the Polic licy, of rlicy, Policy. Policy

Reports, studies or analyses conducted by or on behal ES rlyses behalf

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relating to the experience of the armed fbrces of nations other than the lJnited States red otherthan

with military service by individuals with a holnosexual orientation or by inclividuals with hornosexual
who engage in homosexual conduct, itrcluding the consideration or evaluation of l, including or
service by those foreign states or their armecl lorces, eir
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Reports, research, or analysis concerning [Jnited State ralysis c<lncerning States

personnel and hornosexrtal concluct or irornosexual orientation commissioned,
requestecl, or received by l)ef'endants fi"om any person or organization, incltrding, but

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not limited to, tl're IìAND Corpolation, Irarnily Research Council, the Defense
Readiness Counoil, the Center for Military Readiness, 'Ihe Retired Oflcers
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Association (now the Military Ollìcers Assooiation of America), TROA, the American Security Council lîouncJation, the Conservative lìesout'ce Center, lìxoclus International, Regeneration, the .lacl<son Institute, Vy'alter Reeci Arrny Institute of
Research, PERSIÌREC (Del'ense Personnel Security Research and Eduoation Center),

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Military Working Group Study, US Government Accountability Office, and the
I{omosexual Study Group.

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Defenclants' contention that the Policy is rationally related to a legitirnate

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Deployrnent o1'l<nown or suspeoted gay or lesbian service members from

the year 2001 to the present, including any policies, procedut'es, handbooks, rules,

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guidelines, or colnlrìunications relating to such deployrnents,

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Deployrnent of gay or lesbian service members who were

contemp<iraneously eitl-rer in the process of discharge proceedings f'or homosexual oonduct or under investigation for allegedly engaging in hourosexual conclur:t or any

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otlrer alleged breach of the Polioy from the year 2001 to the present.
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The recruiting and hiring policies o1'private contractor corporations

ernployed since 2002by the United States in Iraq or Afghanistan, specilically relating

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to any non-discrimination policies or DOD guidelines as to those policies,

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Statistics regarcling discharges from 1994 through the present pursuant to

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the total number of service memtrers discharged; (2) the total

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number ol'women discharged; (3) the total nurnber of'offìcers disohalged; (4) the total
nunrber of persons discharged specifiecl by speoialty and/or category (e.g,, number translators, cloctors, nut'ses, attorneys, linguists, mechanics, etc.); the total nulnber persons that oontested their discharge; and (5) the ntunber of persous that were subjected to clischarge pt'oceedings, oontested their discli arge, and ultirnately were not discharged.
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'l'he annl¡al tcltal nurrrtlcl of'f'elons, iclenlìlied as such ¡"rriol to onlistttrent,

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scrving in thc LJnitecl Stafes z\l'nrecl lìorces since the adopl.ion o1'thc p<llìcy pcnrtitting fblons' servìoe in {he [Jnitecl State,s Arrned ]iorces,

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histor'v, e.:onsideratiorr, clevelc¡rment, r:rcatioLt, autltot"izatiou, reasolls

fbr autholiz¿rtion, aclo¡rtion, and irnplornentation ol"eaoh tl'anch ol'lhe LJlritecl States Àrmed lì'<)r'cos' r'espcrctivc ¡rolìey regarcling tnolal r¡,aivers of'pri<lr iblony oonviotions,
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oriLcrria for sr.rch policios since 2001.

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Polls concluot<:cl by or on bel'rall'of'the Defenclants mcasuring

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l;'orcr:s, ínclucling Lroth polls that

nle¿ìsuro ¡rurtrlic opinir:lr withìn tho Unitecl States An:recl Fclrces ancì polls measuring

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'l'he lìscal cf f'cct cll'the Policy, inclucling any studics, reports, research or witb thcr Policy, tlrc costs ol'rect'uitirtg

analSzsjs l"egarding tho expenses assclciatecl

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additiclnal personncl to rcplatoc servicc menrbers disclrargccl pursLìalil to the l)olicy,
ancl the costs expcnded training selvioc rnerlrbels clisclrzu'gocl pursuatrt to the Policy.

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'l'hc icJentìty of'the porson or pgtsons ¡rrintarily rcs¡ronsiblc lbr the

adlninistl'atioll oltlre Policy either'ftrr the lJnitocl Stales Covet'ntlent as a whole, the
Deparrtmcnt oJ'Delènsc and/or each lrranch of the t"lnitocl States Annecl l;'olcos. I)ecernlror' 21,2009

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