LegalZoom.com Inc v. Rocket Lawyer Incorporated

Filing 166

EX PARTE APPLICATION for Leave to TO FILE MOTION TO SUPPLEMENT FACTUAL RECORD IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT AND TO SET BRIEFING SCHEDULE filed by Defendant Rocket Lawyer Incorporated. (Attachments: # 1 DECLARATION OF HONGAN VU IN SUPPORT OF ROCKET LAWYER INCORPORATEDS EX PARTE APPLICATION TO FILE MOTION TO SUPPLEMENT FACTUAL RECORD AND TO ESTABLISH BRIEFING SCHEDULE, # 2 ROCKET LAWYER INCORPORATEDS NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION TO SUPPLEMENT FACTUAL RECORD IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT, # 3 DECLARATION OF MICHAEL JONES IN SUPPORT OF ROCKET LAWYER INCORPORATEDS MOTION TO SUPPLEMENT FACTUAL RECORD IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT, # 4 Proposed Order GRANTING MOTION TO SUPPLEMENT FACTUAL RECORD, # 5 Proposed Order GRANTING LEAVE TO FILE MOTION TO SUPPLEMENT FACTUAL RECORD AND TO ESTABLISH BRIEFING SCHEDULE)(Vu, Hong-An)

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Forrest A. Hainline III (SBN 64166)
[e-mail]
Hong-An Vu (SBN 266268)
[e-mail]
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
Three Embarcadero Center, 24th Floor
San Francisco, California 94111-4003
Tel.: [phone]
Fax.: [phone]
Michael T. Jones (SBN 290660)
[e-mail]
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
135 Commonwealth Drive
Menlo Park, California 94025-1105
Tel.: [phone]
Fax.: [phone]
Brian W. Cook (Pro Hac Vice)
[e-mail]
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
53 State Street
Boston, Massachusetts 02109-2802
Tel.: [phone]
Fax.: [phone]
Attorneys for Defendant
ROCKET LAWYER INCORPORATED

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

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CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

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WESTERN DIVISION

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LEGALZOOM.COM, INC., a Delaware
corporation,
Plaintiff,
v.
ROCKET LAWYER
INCORPORATED, a Delaware
corporation,
Defendant.

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NO. 2:12-CV-09942-GAF-AGR

Case No. 2:12-cv-09942-GAF-AGR
DECLARATION OF HONGAN VU
IN SUPPORT OF ROCKET
LAWYER INCORPORATED’S EX
PARTE APPLICATION TO FILE
MOTION TO SUPPLEMENT
FACTUAL RECORD AND TO
ESTABLISH BRIEFING
SCHEDULE
Date:
Time:
Judge:
Courtroom:

TBD
TBD
Judge Gary A. Feess
740
255 East Temple Street
Los Angeles, CA 90012
Action Filed: November 20, 2012

DECLARATION OF HONG-AN VU

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I, Hong-An Vu, declare as follows:

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1.

I am an associate at Goodwin Procter LLP, counsel of record for

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defendant and counterclaimant Rocket Lawyer Incorporated (“Rocket Lawyer”). I

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submit this declaration in support of Rocket Lawyer’s Ex Parte Application for an

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Order Allowing Rocket Lawyer to File a Motion to Supplement and To Establish

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Briefing Schedule. I am over the age of 18 years. Unless otherwise indicated, I have

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personal knowledge of the matters stated herein and, if called upon to do so, I could

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and would competently testify to them under oath.

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2.

On October 3, 2014, LegalZoom confirmed that it will rely exclusively

on testimony from its expert for damages.

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3.

On October 6, 2014, LegalZoom served the Second Supplemental

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Expert Report of Alan G. Goedde, PH.D., its damages expert, which by its terms

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supersedes all prior expert reports.

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4.

Rocket Lawyer took the depositions of LegalZoom’s fact witnesses

between October 3, 2014 and October 9, 2014.

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5.

I spoke with counsel for LegalZoom, Fred Heather and Aaron Allan, on

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October 20, 2014 at 2:44 p.m. about this ex parte application, the relief sought, and

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the basis for the application. I also informed counsel that Rocket Lawyer intended

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to file the application on October 21, 2014.

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As requested by LegalZoom’s counsel, on October 20, 2014, I emailed

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to counsel for LegalZoom a summary of Rocket Lawyer’s ex parte application. A

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true and correct copy of this email communication is hereto attached as Exhibit A.

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LegalZoom stated that they would oppose the ex parte application and motion to

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supplement the record.

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I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California
that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on this 21st day of October, 2014.

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/s/ Hong-An Vu
HONG-AN VU

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EXHIBIT A

EXHIBIT A

Vu, Hong-An
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:

Aaron Allan <[e-mail]>
Monday, October 20, 2014 5:11 PM
Vu, Hong-An
Hainline, Forrest A; Jones, Michael T; Cook, Brian W; Barak Vaughn; Fred Heather
RE: Rocket Lawyer Ex Parte to Supplement the Record

Thank you for the clarification.  But our position remains the same, and we intend to oppose. 

Aaron P. Allan| Partner 
Glaser Weil Fink Howard Avchen & Shapiro LLP 
10250 Constellation Blvd., 19th Floor, Los Angeles, CA 90067 
Main: 310.553.3000 |Direct: 310.282.6279|Fax: [phone] 

From: Vu, Hong-An [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 5:04 PM
To: Aaron Allan
Cc: Hainline, Forrest A; Jones, Michael T; Cook, Brian W; Barak Vaughn; Fred Heather
Subject: RE: Rocket Lawyer Ex Parte to Supplement the Record

Aaron, 

We have taken what you said into consideration.  We will file tomorrow an ex parte application seeking leave to file the 
accompanying motion to supplement the record and to set a briefing schedule such that the motion may be heard on 
November 10.  Please let us know if this changes your position. 

Thanks, 
Hong‐An 

Hong-An Vu
Goodwin Procter LLP
Three Embarcadero Center, 24th Floor
San Francisco, CA 94111
T: 415-733-6114
F: 415-677-9041
[e-mail]
www.goodwinprocter.com 

From: Aaron Allan [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 3:41 PM
To: Vu, Hong-An
Cc: Hainline, Forrest A; Jones, Michael T; Cook, Brian W; Barak Vaughn; Fred Heather
Subject: RE: Rocket Lawyer Ex Parte to Supplement the Record

Dear Hong‐An, 

Thank you for your email.  Based on your description of the application and the relief being sought, it appears that your 
application is neither procedurally proper nor supported by the record, and we intend to oppose it.  We strongly suggest 
that you reconsider before pursuing such an application. 
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Aaron 

Aaron P. Allan| Partner 
Glaser Weil Fink Howard Avchen & Shapiro LLP 
10250 Constellation Blvd., 19th Floor, Los Angeles, CA 90067 
Main: 310.553.3000 |Direct: 310.282.6279|Fax: [phone] 

From: Vu, Hong-An [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 3:08 PM
To: Fred Heather; Aaron Allan
Cc: Hainline, Forrest A; Jones, Michael T; Cook, Brian W; Barak Vaughn
Subject: Rocket Lawyer Ex Parte to Supplement the Record

Fred and Aaron, 

As discussed on the call at 2:44 p.m., here is a short description of our ex parte application.   

We are seeking to supplement the summary judgment record with very recently acquired evidence.  Specifically, we 
would like the court to consider that you have not provided a 30(b)(6) witness to testify about damages and that your 
damages expert has only provided an opinion about business formation ads and ads that were placed on LegalZoom’s 
brand terms.  You have not provided any evidence relating to damages from ads that appear on Rocket Lawyer’s 
website, in particular, your allegations relating to free trial, free legal review, and free help from local attorneys 
ads.  Rocket Lawyer intends to move ex parte because there is not sufficient time between now and the November 10 
hearing to file and brief the motion pursuant to 35 day minimum meet and confer and briefing schedule established by 
the local rules.   

You stated on the call that you would respond to us by midnight tonight about whether you will oppose this application 
or not. We look forward to your response. 

Thanks, 
Hong‐An 

Hong-An Vu
Goodwin Procter LLP
Three Embarcadero Center, 24th Floor
San Francisco, CA 94111
T: 415-733-6114
F: 415-677-9041
[e-mail]
www.goodwinprocter.com 

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