AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR TESTING AND MATERIALS et al v. PUBLIC.RESOURCE.ORG, INC.

Filing 82

REPLY to opposition to motion re #71 MOTION for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery Defendant-Counterclaimant Public.Resource.Org, Inc.'s Motion for Extension of Discovery Period, Corresponding Modification of Scheduling Order, and Leave to Take More Than 10 Depositions [PUBLIC REDACTED VERSION] filed by PUBLIC.RESOURCE.ORG, INC.. (Attachments: #1 PUBLIC REDACTED VERSION of Reply Declaration of Andrew P. Bridges In Support of Defendant-Counterclaimant Public.Resource.Org, Inc.s Reply In Support of Motion for Extension of Discovery Period, Corresponding Modification of Scheduling Order, and Leave to Take More Than 10 Depositions, #2 Exhibit A to Bridges Reply Declaration In Support, #3 Exhibit B to Bridges Reply Declaration In Support, #4 Exhibit C to Bridges Reply Declaration In Support, #5 Exhibit D to Bridges Reply Declaration In Support, #6 Exhibit E to Bridges Reply Declaration In Support, #7 Exhibit F to Bridges Reply Declaration In Support)(Bridges, Andrew)

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EXHIBIT C MUNGER, TOLLES & OLSON LLP RONALD L. OLSON † ROBERT E. DENHAM JEFFREY I. WEINBERGER CARY B. LERMAN GREGORY P. STONE BRAD D. BRIAN BRADLEY S. PHILLIPS GEORGE M. GARVEY WILLIAM D. TEMKO STEPHEN M. KRISTOVICH JOHN W. SPIEGEL TERRY E. SANCHEZ STEVEN M. PERRY MARK B. HELM JOSEPH D. LEE MICHAEL R. DOYEN MICHAEL E. SOLOFF GREGORY D. PHILLIPS KATHLEEN M. M C DOWELL GLENN D. POMERANTZ THOMAS B. WALPER PATRICK J. CAFFERTY, JR. JAY M. FUJITANI O'MALLEY M. MILLER SANDRA A. SEVILLE-JONES MARK H. EPSTEIN HENRY WEISSMANN KEVIN S. ALLRED BART H. WILLIAMS JEFFREY A. HEINTZ JUDITH T. KITANO KRISTIN LINSLEY MYLES MARC T.G. DWORSKY JEROME C. ROTH STEPHEN D. ROSE JEFFREY L BLEICH GARTH T. VINCENT TED DANE STUART N. SENATOR MARTIN D. BERN DANIEL P. COLLINS ROBERT L. DELL ANGELO BRUCE A. ABBOTT JONATHAN E. ALTMAN MARY ANN TODD MICHAEL J. O'SULLIVAN KELLY M. KLAUS DAVID B. GOLDMAN KEVIN S. MASUDA HOJOON HWANG † A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION PETER A. DETRE DAVID H. FRY LISA J. DEMSKY MALCOLM A. HEINICKE GREGORY J. WEINGART TAMERLIN J. GODLEY JAMES C. RUTTEN RICHARD ST. JOHN ROHIT K. SINGLA LUIS LI CAROLYN HOECKER LUEDTKE C. DAVID LEE MARK H. KIM BRETT J. RODDA SEAN ESKOVITZ FRED A. ROWLEY, JR. KATHERINE M. FORSTER BLANCA FROMM YOUNG RANDALL G. SOMMER MARIA SEFERIAN MANUEL F. CACHÁN ROSEMARIE T. RING TODD J. ROSEN TRUC T. DO MELINDA EADES LeMOINE SETH GOLDMAN GRANT A. DAVIS-DENNY JONATHAN H. BLAVIN DANIEL B. LEVIN MIRIAM KIM MISTY M. SANFORD KATHERINE KU HAILYN J. CHEN BETHANY W. KRISTOVICH SUSAN R. SZABO KIMBERLY A. CHI JACOB S. KREILKAMP ERIC P. TUTTLE HEATHER E. TAKAHASHI KEITH R.D. HAMILTON, II SORAYA C. KELLY JEFFREY Y. WU ALISSA BRANHAM ADAM R. LAWTON JENNY H. HONG AARON SEIJI LOWENSTEIN LAURA D. SMOLOWE MATTHEW A. MACDONALD MARGARET G. MARASCHINO 560 MISSION STREET TWENTY-SEVENTH FLOOR SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA 94105-2907 TELEPHONE (415) 512-4000 FACSIMILE (415) 512-4077 355 SOUTH GRAND AVENUE LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90071-1560 TELEPHONE (213) 683-9100 FACSIMILE (213) 687-3702 December 30, 2014 ESTHER H. SUNG BENJAMIN J. MARO MICHAEL J. MONGAN KYLE A. CASAZZA ERIN J. COX CLAIRE YAN ALLISON S. WOODS JESLYN A. MILLER MARK R. SAYSON CHRISTIAN K. WREDE PETER E. GRATZINGER ANJAN CHOUDHURY JEREMY A. LAWRENCE BENJAMIN E. FRIEDMAN CHRISTOPHER M. LYNCH RAY S. SEILIE NICHOLAS C. SOLTMAN ADAM I. KAPLAN AMELIA L.B. SARGENT KENNETH M. TRUJILLO-JAMISON BRYAN H. HECKENLIVELY LAURA WIRTH JASMINE M. ROBERTS JENNIFER A. JONES LAURA K. LIN KYLE W. MACH JEFFREY M. OSOFSKY GREGORY M. SERGI ACHYUT J. PHADKE DAVID A. TAYLOR TINA W. ARROYO MARI OVERBECK JESSE MAX CREED JOHN M. GILDERSLEEVE ERIC K. CHIU SARAH L. GRAHAM JESSICA BARCLAY-STROBEL ZACHARY M. BRIERS JENNIFER M. BRODER CHRISTINA P. MONIODIS JOHN P. MITTELBACH SARAH GARBER SAMUEL T. GREENBERG CAROLINE M. M C KAY EMILY B. VIGLIETTA WILLIAM J. EDELMAN KEVIN L. BRADY EMILY R.D. MURPHY ELLEN MEDLIN RICHMOND NICOLE S. PHILLIS JORDAN D. SEGALL DANIEL J. HARRIS VICTORIA A. DEGTYAREVA WESLEY T.L. BURRELL CHRISTA L. CULVER ANYA J. GOLDSTEIN KAREN A. LORANG KURUVILLA J. OLASA KEVIN H. SCOTT JUSTIN P. RAPHAEL HANNAH E. SHEARER ELIA HERRERA ROBERT W. GRAY, JR. THOMAS P. CLANCY JOSHUA PATASHNIK ERIC C. TUNG GUHA KRISHNAMURTHI JOSHUA S. MELTZER SARA E. CROLL ANDREW G. PROUT THANE REHN ADAM B. WEISS ROSE LEDA EHLER AMY L. GREYWITT ANDREW Z. WOLSTAN NASSIM NAZEMI ––-––––– OF COUNSEL † RICHARD D. ESBENSHADE † ROBERT K. JOHNSON † ALAN V. FRIEDMAN RONALD K. MEYER ALLISON B. STEIN SUSAN E. NASH WILLIANA CHANG MIRANDA KANE BRAD SCHNEIDER –––––––- E. LEROY TOLLES (1922-2008) WRITER'S DIRECT LINE (415) 512-4073 (415) 644-6973 FAX Thane.Rehn@mto.com Andrew P. Bridges, Esq. Fenwick & West LLP 555 California Street, 12th Floor San Francisco, California 94104 abridges@fenwick.com Via E-mail Re: ASTM, et al. v. Public.Resource.Org – 30(b)(6) Topics Dear Mr. Bridges: This letter responds to the issues raised in your letter of December 26. As we stated in our December 23 telephone call with you, NFPA’s position is that the topics proposed by Public Resource are overly broad. Nonetheless, NFPA has agreed to provide a witness to testify about most of these topics insofar as it is practicable for a single corporate representative to do so, subject to the objections served by NFPA. We provide more specific replies below to your inquiries regarding some of the topics. Please confirm this week that the individual deposition of Jim Pauley and the 30(b)(6) depositions of Bruce Mullen, Chris Dubay and Don Bliss will go forward in Boston on the dates proposed in our December 19 email. Physical Inspection of Assignment Forms Your December 26 letter raises several questions about the physical inspection of NFPA records containing assignment forms for the standards at issue in this case. I provided some MUNGER, TOLLES & OLSON LLP December 30, 2014 Page 2 preliminary answers to those questions in an email to you on December 23, but I have some further information available now. NFPA has expended significant effort to gather these records and make them available for inspection at its headquarters. There are approximately 120 boxes of records, and there are approximately 20 rolls of microfilm. In addition, we have figured out a way to identify which boxes do not contain assignment forms, so fewer than half of the boxes would need to be inspected. NFPA is not willing to have the records taken offsite, but NFPA can provide copying services at a rate of $0.25 per page and $100 per hour, which is the standard rate charged in NFPA’s library. Due to holiday schedules and office closures, there are no days this week that we can make the records available. We can make the records available on January 5, or any business day thereafter. To ensure that we can have them accessible for you when you come to inspect them, please provide us with two business days’ notice. 30(b)(6) notice topics Topic 1: As we discussed, NFPA will designate Chris Dubay to testify on the topic of the standards development process for the standards at issue. Mr. Dubay is familiar with NFPA’s standards development process for the standards at issue, and has served on multiple standards development committees. Topic 2: NFPA will designate Chris Dubay to testify on the topic of NFPA’s ownership of copyright in the standards at issue. Mr. Dubay will be prepared to answer questions about how NFPA receives and assures completeness of copyright assignments. We do not agree with the legal assertions in your December 26 letter regarding what evidence is necessary or sufficient to show copyright ownership. Topic 3: This topic asks NFPA to designate a witness to provide legal opinions regarding the authority of persons outside NFPA to assign copyrights. We do not believe it is an appropriate topic. Topic 4: NFPA will designate a witness to testify about the ways in which it makes the standards available to the general public, subject to the objections served by NFPA. Topic 5: NFPA has produced the terms of access to its standards, and will designate a witness to testify regarding these terms, subject to the objections served by NFPA. In particular, NFPA objects that the terms of access are legal documents and NFPA will not designate a witness to provide legal opinions regarding the meaning of these terms. Topic 7: NFPA will designate Bruce Mullen to testify regarding its revenues from the standards at issue in this case. NFPA has taken the position throughout this litigation that it will not produce sales data beyond its audited financial statements, and Public Resource has accepted that this production is sufficient. Accordingly, Mr. Mullen will be prepared to testify generally about NFPA revenues from sales of the standards at issue, but not about the precise amount of sales to each individual government agency. MUNGER, TOLLES & OLSON LLP December 30, 2014 Page 3 Topic 13: As we said in response to Topic 7, NFPA has taken the position throughout this litigation that it will not produce sales data beyond the information in NFPA’s audited financial statements, and Public Resource has accepted this production as sufficient. Mr. Mullen will be prepared to testify in general about NFPA’s revenues from sales of the standards at issue, but it would be unduly burdensome to prepare at this late date monthly or quarterly sales data for each standard, as you request for the first time in your December 26 letter. Topic 15: NFPA will designate a witness to testify regarding whether NFPA has made any changes to the standards development processes because of the activities of Public Resource at issue in this case, subject to the objections served by NFPA. Topics 16-17: To the extent these topics go beyond Topic 1, they seek testimony as to legal propositions and conclusions, which is not a proper subject for a 30(b)(6) deposition. NFPA will designate a witness to testify regarding the standards development process, as called for in Topic 1. Topic 18: NFPA will designate a witness to testify regarding this topic, subject to the objections served by NFPA. Topic 19: NFPA’s organizational communications regarding this lawsuit are generally privileged. Your letter proposes that NFPA designate a witness to gather information about whether any individual NFPA employees had any nonprivileged communications about this lawsuit in their individual capacity, and that the witness be prepared to testify regarding any such individual communications. This proposal would be unduly burdensome and not a fit subject for a single corporate representative. Sincerely, /s/ Thane Rehn Thane Rehn

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