Witt v. Department of the Air Force et al

Filing 63

MOTION for Protective Order by Defendants Department of the Air Force, Donald H Rumsfeld, Michael W Wynne, Mary L Walker. Oral Argument Requested. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit, # 2 Exhibit, # 3 Exhibit, # 4 Exhibit, # 5 Exhibit, # 6 Exhibit, # 7 Exhibit) Noting Date 3/12/2010, (Phipps, Peter)

Witt v. Department of the Air Force et al

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EXHIBIT 3
Excerpt from Deposition of Col. (Ret.) Mary Walker

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What I'm going to do now is somewhat

laboriously go through a list of names of individuals just to make sure that -- I know you've already told me no, but I want to see if telling you a name jogs any kind of recollection. So, I'm going to ask you if

you ever knew or suspected that any of these people were gay or lesbian. A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q A Q Okay. Tech Sergeant Stacey Julian? No. Sergeant James Schaffer? No. Major Faith Mueller? No. Major Julia Scott? No. Major Sue Schindler? No. Major Sharon Carlson? No. Master Sergeant Jill Brinks? No. Major Annie Thomas? No. Major Vince Oda?
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Okay?

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No. Tech Sergeant Leah Crawford? No. Major Kenneth Winslow? No. Major Carolyn Newhouse? No. Captain Ed -Hrivnak. H-r-i-v-n-a-k? No. Sergeant Aaron Maness? No. Lieutenant Jill Brinks? No. Lieutenant Colonel Bethany Ruals? No. Colonel Bruce Daugherty? No. Sergeant Candace Newberry? No. Sergeant Theron Smith? Theron. Theron? No.
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Sergeant Charlene Livingston? No. At some point while you were at McChord, was

there someone in the unit that was known by the nickname Peaches? MR. PHIPPS: THE WITNESS: around 1980. Q name? A Q A Q I don't know. What was her rank? I don't know that either. What was her job? MR. PHIPPS: THE WITNESS: Objection. Foundation. (By Mr. Lobsenz) What is Peaches' actual Objection. Foundation.

Peaches was there probably

She was a -- I want to say she She

was a flight -- She was over the flight section.

was an officer in charge of I want to say the training section. Q A Q (By Mr. Lobsenz) Okay. Ground training is what it is. No one ever told you that she either was or

they suspected she was lesbian? A Q No. And you never suspected that?
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Let me read her comments from this OER from "Exceptional flight nurse

Exhibit 13 into the record.

sith superb clinical skills in the aeromedical evacuation patient movement system; always ready to volunteer and support the mission whether in-garrison at home station or at deployed location; exhibited remarkable leadership skills as chief of Stan Eval, meticulously monitoring crew members, currency, qualification and proficiency ensuring 100 percent of squadron taskings met and outstandingly performed; member is unable to participate since November 2004 due to pending administrative discharge." Is there anything in those comments that of your personal knowledge you can say I disagree with? A Q No. Okay. Have you ever held the opinion that

Major Witt's presence in the 446 has a negative impact on unit cohesion or morale? A Q No. Have you ever held an opinion that if she

were reinstated to the unit that she would by being reinstated have a negative impact on unit cohesion or morale? A Q Never thought about it. I think that I'm done. My practice is now if

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