Viacom International, Inc. v. Youtube, Inc.

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APPENDIX, on behalf of Appellant Black Entertainment Television, LLC, Comedy Partners, Country Music Television, Inc., Paramount Pictures Corporation and Viacom International, Inc., FILED. Service date 12/10/2010 by CM/ECF. [165098] [10-3270]

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I K E Z O Y E , V. Q A n d w a s t h i s f o r c o n t e n t id e n t i f i c a t i o n

s e r v i c e s to b e r u n a g a i n s t t h e U G C s e r v i c e s o p e r a te d b y V i a c o m w h e r e u s e r s c o u l d u pl o a d v i d e o s ? A Yes. M R . D E S A N CT I S : T H E W I T N E SS : Yes. MS. REES: Q. D o y o u k n o w w h i ch o n l i n e O b j e c t i o n t o f or m . Sorry.

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t h e s e s e r vi c e - - w e - - w e p r o vi d e d s e r v i c e s t o , b ut t h i s a g r e em e n t p r o v i d e d f o r , I b e l i e v e , a l l o f M T VN U G C p r o p e rt i e s t o b e a b l e t o be u t i l i z e d . Q A n d i f y o u t u r n t o t h e p a ge n u m b e r e d A M 3 8 3 1 ,

i s t h a t y ou r s i g n a t u r e a t t h e b o t t o m o f t h e p a g e ? A Q Yes, it is. A n d t h is a g r e e m e n t w a s e n te r e d i n t o o n

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a g r e e m e n t w i t h Y o u T u b e i n O c t ob e r o f 2 0 0 6 ; c o r r e c t? A That is correct.

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AM will work together to combine AM's ability to i d e n t i f y s o u n d r e c o r di n g s w i t h H F A ' s c a p a c i t y t o i d e n t i f y m u s i c a l c o m po s i t i o n s e m b o d i e d i n t h o s e s o u n d recordings along with the associated music publishing r i g h t s h o l d e r s " ; d o y ou s e e t h a t ? A Q Yes. What, if anything, was done in order to

a c c o m p l i s h w h a t ' s d e sc r i b e d i n t h a t s e n t e n c e ? A W e ' v e n e e d e d t o m a tc h d a t a b a s e s b e t w e e n o u r

s o u n d r e c o r d i n g a n d H ar r y F o x ' s d a t a b a s e o f c o m p o s i t i o n s a n d p u b li s h e r s . Q A Q A A n d h a s t h a t h a p p e ne d ? Yes. A n d h o w i s t h a t a c co m p l i s h e d ? We provide some of our database metadata with

a n i d e n t i f i e r a n d w e se n d t h a t t o H a r r y F o x , a n d t h e n t h e y d o a p r o c e s s o f a ut o m a t e d a n d m a n u a l m a t c h i n g t o their database. Q A n d w h a t ' s t h e r e s ul t o f t h a t p r o c e s s o f

a u t o m a t e d a n d m a n u a l ma t c h i n g t h a t H a r r y F o x d o e s ? MR. DESANCTIS: THE WITNESS: O b j e c ti o n t o f o r m . We have a link, then when we --

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IKEZOYE, V. g o e s i n t o t he H a r r y F o x d a t a b a s e th a t ca n s a y h e r e a r e t h e - - h e r e ar e t h e - - h e r e ' s t h e c o m p os i t i o n a n d h e r e a r e s o m e o f th e m u s i c p u b l i s h e r s . MS. REES: Q. A n d d o e s t h i s a l l o w A u d ib l e

M a g i c t o b e ab l e t o i d e n t i f y c o m p os i t i on s , a s w e l l a s s o u n d r e c o rd in g s , w h e n i t ' s d o i n g m a t c he s ? A A u d i b l e M ag i c i n c o m p - - - i n co m b i na t i o n w i t h

H a r r y F o x , yes , i t d o e s a l l o w u s to i d en t i f y c o m p o s i t i o ns . Q A n d f o r - - i f y o u c a n c h a r a c t er i z e , f o r w h a t

p e r c e n t a g e o f t h e s o u n d r e c o r d i n gs t h a t a r e i n A u d i b l e M a g i c ' s d a ta ba s e i s t h e r e a l s o c o mp o s i ti o n i n f o r m a t i o n available? M R . D E S A N C TI S: O b j e c t i o n t o f o r m;

f o u n d a t i o n ; an d c a l l s f o r s p e c u l at i o n . T H E W I T N E S S: MS. REES: Q C a n y o u r e p e a t t h e qu e s t io n ?

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p e r c e n t a g e o f t h e s o u n d r e c o r d i n gs t h a t a r e i n A u d i b l e M a g i c ' s m u si c d a t a b a s e i s t h e r e a ls o c om p o s i t i o n i n f o r m a t i o n av a i l a b l e t h r o u g h H a rr y F ox ? M R . D E S A N C TI S: T H E W I T N E S S: Same objection. I t i s a - - a m i n o r i ty o f th e

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IKEZOYE, V. t h e w a y w e hav e g o n e a b o u t i t i s we h a ve - - w e p r o v i d e t o H a r r y F o x t h e m o s t f r e q u e n t l y id e n t if i e d s o u n d r e c o r d i n g s a nd w e s t a r t t h a t w a y , a n d so w e - - o f t h e i d e n t i f i c a ti on s w e h a v e , w e h a v e a g r e at m a j o r i t y o f t h e m , b u t f rom t h e - - t h e n u m b e r of s h ee r t i t l e s i n o u r d a t a b a se , i t ' s p r o b a b l y a - - a s m a ll p e r c e n t a g e . MS. REES: Q. H a s A u d i b l e M a g i c re c e i ve d a n y

c o m p o s i t i o n in f o r m a t i o n d i r e c t l y f r o m m u s i c p u b l i s h e r s , so n o t f r o m H F A , b u t fr o m a m u s i c p u b l i s h e r di re c t l y ? A Q A I b e l i e ve w e h a v e . W h i c h m us ic p u b l i s h e r s , i f y o u k n o w? T h e y ' r e s om e o f t h e s m a l l e r m us i c pu b l i s h e r s .

I c a n ' t r e m emb e r s o m e o f t h e n a m e s r i g ht n o w . Q I s t h e r e a t y p e o f w r i t t e n a g re e m e nt b e t w e e n

H a r r y F o x A gen c y a n d A u d i b l e M a g i c c o n ce r n i n g t h i s c o l l a b o r a t io n? A Y e s , t h er e' s a h i g h - l e v e l c o l la b o r at i o n

agreement. Q S o w i t h r es p e c t t o A u d i b l e M a gi c ' s m a s t e r

d a t a b a s e o f al l t h e f i n g e r p r i n t s th a t Au d i b l e M a g i c h a s , h o w m a ny o f t h e m a r e - - w e l l , s t r ik e t h a t . S o e a r l i e r you h a d m e n t i o n e d a c o mm e r c ia l m u s i c d a t a ba se - -

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IKEZOYE, V. A Q Yes. - - d o y o u r e c a l l t ha t ? A p p r o x i m a t e l y h o w m a ny f i n g e r p r i n t s a r e i n t h e c o m m e r c i a l d a t a b as e ? A Q A Q Today? Yes. I t h i n k o v e r 7 m i l li o n . And approximately how many fingerprints are

i n A u d i b l e M a g i c ' s m a st e r d a t a b a s e , i n c l u d i n g a l l fingerprints? A Q More than music? Y e s , t h e - - a s s u m i ng I - - e a r l i e r I t h i n k w e

had defined the master database to be all of the A u d i b l e M a g i c f i n g e r pr i n t s . A Q Right. S o t h e q u e s t i o n w o ul d b e , h o w m a n y

f i n g e r p r i n t s a r e i n t ha t m a s t e r d a t a b a s e ? A S o i t ' s - - y o u k n o w, i n m u s i c d a t a b a s e w e

h a v e o v e r 7 m i l l i o n ; in t h e f i l m a n d t e l e v i s i o n database, I said over 80,000; and looking at the report, it looks like it's over 120,000. Q A Q S o s o m e t h i n g a r o u nd i n t h e a r e a o f 7 , 1 2 0 , 0 0 0 ? I t ' s h i g h e r t h a n t ha t , b u t y e s . So that means that out of all the

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IKEZOYE, V. Q A Q Sure. R e p e a t th e q u e s t i o n . Sure. A s o f N o v e m ber 2 0 0 6 , w h e n a n u m b e r o f th e c o n t e n t o w ne rs w e r e a d d e d t o t h e da t a b as e , a c c o r d i n g t o t h e s e c o nd p a g e o f E x h i b i t 1 2 , A u d i bl e M a g i c d i d n ' t h a v e a n y f i nge r p r i n t s i n t h e f i l m a n d TV d a t a b a s e t h a t i t c o u l d h a ve a d d e d , d i d i t ? A N o , I t hi nk w e d i d h a v e s o m e . I f o n, y o u

k n o w , E x h i bi t 4 A w e s a i d t h a t , 2 0 06 , w e d i d h a v e s o m e f i n g e r p r i n ts i n t h e d a t a b a s e . Q A Q Okay. Yeah. - - f i l m a nd T V f i n g e r p r i n t s t ha t c ou l d h a v e It said nine.

So t h e r e w e r e n i n e - -

b e e n a d d e d at t h a t t i m e ? A Q Right. E a r l i e r y ou t e s t i f i e d t h a t A u di b l e M a g i c

c o u l d a n d w oul d h a v e a d d e d t h e f i lm a n d T V d a t a b a s e f i n g e r p r i n ts t o t h e Y o u T u b e c o n t ra c t i f Y o u T u b e h a d a s k e d ; d o y ou r e c a l l t h a t t e s t i m o ny ? A Q Y e s , a n d ye s . B u t i t co ul d o n l y h a v e d o n e t ha t t o t h e

e x t e n t t h a t it h a d f i n g e r p r i n t s i n i t s T V a n d f i l m d a t a b a s e ; co rr e c t ?

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IKEZOYE, V. M R . D E S A N C TI S: T H E W I T N E S S: O b j e c t i o n t o f o r m. That is correct. We w o u ld n e e d

t h e f i n g e r pr in t s t o d e p l o y t h e m i n t h e d a t a b a s e . MS. REES: Q. D u r i n g t h e t i m e f r am e f ro m - -

d u r i n g t h e 200 4 a n d 2 0 0 5 t i m e f r a me , d id A u d i b l e M a g i c o f f e r t o a n y U G C o r W e b 2 . 0 o n l i n e s e r vi c e s , d i d A u d i b l e M a gi c o f f e r f i l t e r i n g s e rv i c e s t o a n y c o m p a n i e s in t h a t s p a c e ? M R . D E S A N C TI S: MS. REES: A Q A No. Why not? F i r s t , I do n ' t b e l i e v e t h e r e we r e ma n y W e b Q. O b j e c t i o n t o f o r m. 2 0 0 4 a n d 2 0 0 5 t i m e f r a m e.

2 . 0 U G C s i t es d u r i n g t h a t t i m e f r am e , an d s e c o n d , w e h a d n ' t b e e n -- w e h a d - - w e d i d n ' t s i g n a c u s t o m e r d u r i n g t h a t pe r i o d o f t i m e , a n d . . . Q A n d U M -- a n d A u d i b l e M a g i c h ad n o t a c t u a l l y

d e p l o y e d i ts f i l t e r i n g t e c h n o l o g y f o r an y W e b 2 . 0 o r U G C s i t e s i n t h e 2 0 0 4 a n d 2 0 0 5 t i me f r am e ? M R . D E S A N C TI S: O b j e c t i o n t o f o r m a n d th e u s e

o f " f i l t e r in g t e c h n o l o g y " ? T H E W I T N E S S: W e d i d n ' t h a v e a n y cu s t o me r s

d u r i n g t h a t ti m e , s o w e w o u l d n ' t ha v e de p l o y e d - - w e w o u l d n ' t h av e a n y c u s t o m e r s i n t h e U G C W e b 2 . 0 s p a c e

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IKEZOYE, V. a n d s o w e w oul d n ' t h a v e d e p l o y e d a s y s te m f o r t h a t . MS. REES: Q. D u r i n g t h e t i m e f r am e b et w e e n

O c t o b e r 2 0 06 w h e n A u d i b l e M a g i c s ig n e d t h i s a g r e e m e n t w i t h Y o u T u be i n t h e f i r s t q u a r t e r o f 2 00 7 w h e n t h e A u d i b l e M a gi c f i l t e r i n g a c t u a l l y w e n t li v e , w e r e y o u aware of any problems that YouTube was having with g e t t i n g t h e re c o r d l a b e l s t o p r o v id e u pd a t e d a n d c o r r e c t m e ta da t a f o r u s e i n t h e f il t e r in g s e r v i c e ? M R . D E S A N C TI S: T H E W I T N E S S: O b j e c t i o n t o f o r m. I ' m s u r e t h e r e w a s so m e

c o n f u s i o n re ga r d i n g g e t t i n g t h e co n t e nt a n d r u l e s , f i n g e r p r i n ts , a n d d e t e r m i n i n g w h ic h f in g e r p r i n t s t o p u t i n t h e dat a b a s e d u r i n g t h a t p er i o d o f t i m e . MS. REES: Q. And do you know how that

c o n f u s i o n wa s r e s o l v e d , i f i t w a s ? A Q N o , I d on 't . I f y o u co ul d t u r n b a c k t o E x h ib i t 1 7, a n d

t h i s w a s t h e d o c u m e n t r e l a t i n g t o a t l ea s t a p o t e n t i a l p r o p o s a l r eg ar d i n g t h e M P A A f i l t er i n g pi l o t t e s t ; i s that right? A Q Yes. S o a s o f th e d a t e o f t h i s d o c um e n t ,

O c t o b e r 9 , 200 6 , A u d i b l e M a g i c d i dn ' t ac t u a l l y h a v e a n y f i l m a n d T V f i n g e r p r i n t s i n i ts d a ta b a s e ; r i g h t ?

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IKEZOYE, V. A Q Correct. S o o n e of t h e t h i n g s t h a t w o u ld h a v e h a d t o

h a v e b e e n d one i n o r d e r t o d o t h e t y p e o f p i l o t t e s t s t h a t ' s c o n te mp l a t e d i n t h i s p r o p os a l w ou l d b e t o o b t a i n s u c h fi n g e r p r i n t s f r o m f i lm a n d T V c o m p a n i e s ? A Q Yes. S o e a r l ie r y o u t e s t i f i e d , a n d , a g a in , c o r r e c t

m e i f I ' m w ron g , d o n ' t m e a n t o m i sc h a r ac t e r i z e , t h a t a u d i o f i n g er pr i n t i n g i s e f f e c t i v e i n i de n t i f y i n g v i d e o f i l e s ; d o e s th a t s o u n d r i g h t ? A Q Yes. A n d t h e n yo u a l s o s a i d a s l o n g a s A ud i b l e

M a g i c h a d t he r e f e r e n c e f i n g e r p r in t i n i t s d a t a b a s e c o r r e s p o n d in g t o t h a t v i d e o f i l e ; r i g h t? A Q T h a t ' s co rr e c t . Sorry.

N o w , a s o f 2 0 0 6 , I t h i n k w e s ai d t h er e w e r e ,

w h a t , n i n e fin g e r p r i n t s i n t h e T V f i l m d a t a b a s e ; w a s that right? A Q Yes. A s k - - an d t h e n e v e n t o d a y t h e t o t a l i s

a p p r o x i m a t el y 1 2 9 , 0 0 0 , a c c o r d i n g t o E xh i b i t 4 A ? A Q Yes. I f y o u co ul d t u r n b a c k t o E x h ib i t 2 4. A n d t h i s w a s a n e - m a i l f r o m L o u K vi t e k t o

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U N I T ED S T AT E S D IS T R I CT C O U R T F O R TH E S OU T HE R N D I S T R I C T O F NE W Y OR K V I A C OM I N TE R NA T IO N A L I N C . , C O ME D Y P A R T NE R S , C O UN T RY M U SI C T E L E VI S I O N, IN C ., P A RA M O U N T P I C T UR E S CO R PO R AT I O N , a n d B L A CK E N T E RT A I N ME N T T EL E V I SI O N L L C , P l a i nt i f f s, vs. Y O U T UB E , IN C ., YO U T U BE , L L C , a n d GO O G L E, IN C ., ) ) ) ) ) ) ) C a s e No . ) 1: 0 7C V 0 2 1 0 3 ) ) D e f e nd a n t s. ) _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _) T H E FO O T B AL L A S SO C I A TI O N P R E M IE R ) L E A G UE L I MI T ED , B O U R NE C O . , e t a l. ,) o n b eh a l f o f t h em s e l v e s a n d a ll ) o t h e rs s i mi l ar l y s i t ua t e d , ) ) P l a i nt i f f s, ) vs. ) C a s e No . Y O U T UB E , IN C ., YO U T U BE , L L C , an d ) 07 C V3 5 8 2 G O O G LE , I NC . , ) ) D e f e nd a n t s. ) _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ ) D E P O SI T I O N O F L AU R E N A P O L I T O N E W YO R K , N E W Y OR K T H U R SD A Y , J a nu a ry 7 , 2 0 1 0 R E P O RT E D BY : E R I C A R U G GI E RI , C S R , R P R J O B NO : 1 84 4 8

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A P P E A R A N C E S:

F O R T H E DE F E ND AN T S Y OU T U BE , I N C. , Y OU TU B E , L L C a n d GO O G LE , I N C. : W I LS O N S ON S I NI G O O DR IC H & RO S A TI , L LP BY: M AU RA R EE S, E SQ .

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F O R T H E HA R R Y FO X AG EN C Y A ND T H E W I TN ES S : L I EF F CA BR A S ER H E I MA NN & B ER N S TE IN BY: D AV ID S . ST E L LI NG S , ES Q

A N NI K A K . M A RT IN , ES Q. 2 5 0 H u ds on S tr ee t , 8 th F lo or N e w Y o rk , N Y 1 00 1 3 -1 41 3 ( 2 12 ) 35 5- 9 5 00 D s te l l in gs @ l ch b. c o m

A L SO P RE SE N T : M A NU E L A BR E U , Vi d e og ra p h er

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I T I S HE RE B Y S TI P U LA TE D AN D A G RE E D , by a nd b e t we en t he a t t or ne y s f o r t h e re s p ec ti v e p ar t i es h e r ei n, t h at f il in g an d s e al in g be a n d t he s a me a re h e r eb y w a iv ed . I T I S FU RT H E R ST I P UL AT E D A ND A G RE E D t ha t al l o b je ct i o ns , e x ce pt as t o t h e f or m of t h e q ue s t io n, s ha ll b e r e se r v ed t o th e t i me o f th e t r ia l. I T I S FU RT H E R ST I P UL AT E D A ND A G RE E D t ha t th e w i th in d ep os i t io n m ay b e s w o rn t o an d s i gn ed b ef or e an y o f fi c e r au t h or iz e d t o a d mi ni s t er a n o a th , wi th t he s a m e fo r c e an d ef fe c t a s i f si gn e d a nd s wo rn t o be f o re t h e C o ur t .

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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A P OL I T O A. Q. Ye s. Th e H a rr y F o x Ag e n cy d i d n ot e n d

u p e n t er in g in to a ny t y p e of c ol la b or at i o n a g re e m en t w i th A u d it ud e ; i s t h at r i gh t? A. Q. Co rr e c t. Do y o u r ec a l l wh y th er e w a s no

c o ll a b or at i o n ag r e em en t wi th A ud it u de ? A. I re c a ll A u d it ud e do es h a v e

f i ng e r pr in t i ng t e c hn ol o g y; h o w ev er th e y w e re n ot i n t er es t e d in w or ki n g w it h u s er - g en er a t ed c o n te nt s it es . Q. Ha ve t he re b ee n a n y di s c u s si o n s

b e tw e e n Au d i tu de a nd H a r ry F o x A ge n cy a f te r th e 2 0 07 t i m e fr a m e? A. I be l i ev e w e s en t th em t h e p re s s

r e le a s e of o ur A u d ib le M ag ic c ol la b or at i o n a n d a s ke d t h em i f th ey w ou ld l ik e t o c o nt i n ue c o n ve rs a t io ns . Q. An d w e re t h e re c o n ti nu e d

c o nv e r sa ti o n s af t e r th a t ? A. Q. No t t h at I r ec al l . Wh at i s th e pu rp o s e of t h e

c o ll a b or at i o n ag r e em en t th at H ar ry Fo x A g en c y h as w it h A u di bl e Ma gi c ?

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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A P OL I T O A. Au di b l e Ma g i c ha s a da t a b a se o f Th ey us e

s o un d re co r d in g i n fo rm a t io n.

t h at i nf or m a ti on t o cr e a te c o d es , f i ng e r pr in t of t h e a ud i o , an d th en th ey h e lp s it es i n id e n ti fy i n g co n t en t t hr ou g h t h e f i ng er p r in ts . A l th o u gh a s it e m a y us e Au di b l e M a gi c an d d e te rm i n e th a t i t' s a pa r ti cu l a r s o un d re co r d in g, t he re ' s s ti l l a m i ss in g l i nk , wh ic h is t h e p ub l i sh er i nf or m at io n . H a rr y Fo x w a s ho p i ng t o fa ci l i ta te l i ce n s in g b y a ls o co mb i n in g t h e pu b li sh i n g i n fo r m at io n wi th t he A u d ib le M ag ic i n fo r m at io n so t h a t so m e bo dy w ho w a nt ed t o l i ce n s e co u l d ge t bo th s et s o f i n fo r m at io n . Q. Wh at ' s t he c ur re n t s ta t u s of t h e

H a rr y Fo x' s co ll a b or at i o n wi t h A ud i bl e M a gi c ? A. We c o n ti nu e to m a t ch o u r d at a

s e ts t o en s u re t h a t tr a c ks t h a t Au d ib le M a gi c ha s h a ve c o r re sp o n di ng H ar ry Fo x s o ng c od es . M S . R E ES : E xh ib i t 9 .

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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A P OL I T O ( A po l i to E x h ib it 9 , po t e nt ia l b u si n e ss m o d el , m a rk ed f or i d en t i fi ca t i on , a s o f t h is d a t e. ) ( W it n e ss r e v ie ws d oc um e n t. ) Q. A. Ca n y o u id e n ti fy E xh ib i t 9 ? Th is i s on e po te n t ia l b u s i ne s s

m o de l th at w as d e v el op e d . Q. Wh en y ou s a y a " p o te nt i a l

b u si n e ss m o d el ," w ha t d o y ou m ea n b y th a t ? A. Di ff e r en t w a ys t h a t we c o u ld

w o rk t og et h e r wi t h , wh e t he r i t b e A ud ib l e M a gi c or a s im il a r p ar t y a nd a p ot e n t ia l l i ce n s ee a n d H ar r y F ox . Q. Is t h e b us i n es s m o de l t h a t 's

r e fl e c te d i n E xh i b it 9 s om et h i ng t h at H a rr y Fo x h a s si n c e im p l em en t e d? A. No . M S . R E ES : E xh ib i t 1 0.

( A po l i to E x h ib it 1 0, d o c um en t r e ga r d in g r e la ti o n sh ip b et we e n H FA a n d A u di bl e Ma gi c , m ar k e d fo r i d en t i fi ca t i on , a s o f t h is d a t e. ) ( W it n e ss r e v ie ws d oc um e n t. ) Q. Ca n y o u id e n ti fy E xh ib i t 1 0?

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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U N I T E D S T AT E S D I S T R I C T C O U R T S O U T H E R N DI S T R I C T O F N E W Y O R K - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - X V I A C O M I N TE R N A T I O N A L , I N C . , C OM E D Y PARTNERS, COUNTRY MUSIC T E L E V I S I O N, I N C . , P A R A M O U N T P I C T U R E S CO R P O R A T I O N , a n d B L A CK E N T E R T A I N ME N T T E L E V I S I O N , L L C , P l a i n t i f f s, vs. Y O U T U B E , IN C . , Y O U T U B E , L L C , a n d G O O G L E, I N C . , D e f e n d a n t s. - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - X T H E F O O T B AL L A S S O C I A T I O N P R E M IE R L E A G U E L I MI T E D , B O U R N E C O . , e t a l . , on behalf of themselves and all others similarly situated, P l a i n t i f f s, vs. Y O U T U B E , IN C . , Y O U T U B E , L L C , a n d G O O G L E, I N C . , D e f e n d a n t s. - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - X H I G H L Y C O NF I D E N T I A L VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF SCOTT PAUL ROESCH PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2009 J O B N O . 1 77 1 4 No. 07-CV-3582 No. 07-CV-2103

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H I G H L Y C O N FI D E N T I A L V I D E O T AP E D D EP O S I T I O N O F S C O T T P A U L R O E S C H, a t W I L S O N S O N S IN I G OO D R I C H & R O S A T I , 6 0 1 C a l i f o r n i a A v e n u e , P a l o A l to , C a li f o r n i a , p u r s u a n t t o n o t i c e , b e fo r e m e , K A T H E R I NE E . LA U S T E R , C L R , C R R , R P R, CSR License No. 1894. S C O T T R O E S CH S E P T E M B E R 25 , 2 0 0 9 8:42 A.M.

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DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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SCOTT ROESCH A P P E A R A N C E S: F O R T H E P L A I N T I F F S , VI A C O M I N T E R N A TI O N A L , I N C . : JENNER & BLOCK, LLP B y : S C O T T B . W I L K E N S, E S Q . 1099 New York Avenue, NW, Suite 900 Washington, DC 20001 Telephone: 2 0 2 . 6 3 9 .6 0 0 0 fax: [phone] [e-mail] and MTV NETWORKS B Y : M I C H E L E N A H A L L I E, E S Q . S e n i o r V i c e P r e s i d e n t, D e p u t y G e n e ra l C o u n s e l L i t i g a t i o n / I n t e l l e c t ua l P r o p e r t y 1515 Broadway N e w Y o r k , N e w Y o r k 10 0 3 6 T e l e p h o n e : 2 1 2 . 8 4 6 . 68 4 9 Fax: [phone] m i c h e l e n a . h a l l i e @ m t v n. c o m F O R T H E D E F E N D A N T S Y OU T U B E , I N C . , Y OU T U B E , L L C , a n d GOOGLE, INC.: W I L S O N , S O N S I N I , G O O DR I C H & R O S A T I , L L P B y : M I C H A E L H . R U B I N, E S Q . CAROLINE WILSON, ESQ. 650 Page Mill Road Palo Alto, California 94304-1050 phone: [phone] fax: [phone] [e-mail] [e-mail] Also Present: A R M A N DO C A R R A S C O , V i d eo g r a p h e r

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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S C O T T R O E SC H d i s t r i b u t or o f i n d e p e n d e n t e n te r t a i n m e n t , a n d t h a t i n v o l v e d di s t r i b u t i o n o f c o n t en t o n t h e w e b , a n d t h r o u g h a n u m b e r o f o t h e r m e d ia c h a n n e l s , i n c l u d i ng t e l e v i s i o n, a i r l i n e s , w h e n - - v a r i o u s o t h e r channels. A n d s o t h e - - t h e b u s i n e s s m o de l w a s a d v e r t i s i ng o n t h e w e b s i t e a n d d i s t r i b u t i o n - - o r , a c t u a l l y , l i c e n s e s t o d i s t r i b ut i o n p a r t n e r s . Q. C a n y ou d e s c r i b e h o w l o n g t h a t b u s i n e s s

model was in place? A. T h e b us i n e s s m o d e l i s a c tu a l l y s t i l l i n T h e --

p l a c e a n d o f c o u r s e i t ' s e v o l ve d o v e r t i m e .

t h e w e b h as b e c o m e m o r e c e n t r al t o t h e b u s i n e s s m o d e l , a n d t h e d i s t r i b u t i o n e ff o r t s - - o r d i s t r i b u t io n c h a n n e l s h a v e b e co m e , I w o u l d s a y , s e c o n d a r y , b u t a n i m p o r t a n t s ec o n d a r y b u s i n e s s f o r us. Q. A n d o ve r t i m e y o u h a v e a dd e d o n

d i f f e r e n t t y p e s o f b u s i n e s s e s t o t h a t c o r e b u s i n e ss model? M R . W I L K E NS : question. T H E W I T N E SS : I'm sorry. C a n y o u - - c a n y ou c l a r i f y ? Objection to the form of the

Can you repeat the question?

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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S C O T T R O E SC H B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. I b e l ie v e y o u t e s t i f i e d a m o m e n t a g o t h a t

t h e o r i g i na l b u s i n e s s m o d e l o f t h e c o m p a n y w a s t o f o c u s o n or i g i n a l c o n t e n t , t h e a c q u i s i t i o n a n d d i s t r i b u t io n o f o r i g i n a l c o n t en t ; i s t h a t r i g h t ? A. I d o n 't t h i n k I s a i d t h a t. We were --

w e ' r e a m ar k e t e r a n d d i s t r i b u to r o f i n d e p e n d e n t e n t e r t a i n me n t . Q. Okay. L e t - - l e t m e - - l et m e a s k y o u a H o w d i d At o m F i l m s a c q u i r e t ha t

different question.

o r i g i n a l l y, a t t h e i n c e p t i o n of t h e c o m p a n y , g o a b o u t a c q ui r i n g t h a t c o n t e n t ? A. creators. Q. A n d h ow d i d A t o m F i l m s g o a b o u t g e t t i n g W e p r im a r i l y l i c e n s e d f r om i n d e p e n d e n t

r i g h t s a n d c l e a r a n c e s t o d i s t ri b u t e t h a t c o n t e n t ? M R . W I L K E NS : question. T H E W I T N E SS : We would, through a variety Objection to the form of the

o f m e a n s , f i n d c o n t e n t t h a t w e l i k e d a n d t h o u g h t ha d c o m m e r c i a l d i s t r i b u t i o n p o t e n ti a l ; f o r e x a m p l e , w e w o u l d g o to f i l m f e s t i v a l s , w e w o u l d e n g a g e - - w e would meet the creator and -- and discuss a -- a l i c e n s i n g a r r a n g e m e n t w i t h t h em . I f w e c o u l d r e a ch

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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S C O T T R O E SC H t e r m s , w e w o u l d e x e c u t e a c o n tr a c t , a n d w e w o u l d o b t a i n c l ea r a n c e s . S o w e w o u ld g e t r e p s a n d w a r r an t i e s f r o m t h e c r e a t or , a n d w e w o u l d o b t ai n c l e a r a n c e s f r o m t h e m t o a ff i r m t h a t t h e y h e l d t h e n e c e s s a r y r i g h t s t o d i s t r i bu t e t h e m a t e r i a l . Q. A n d b y " r e p s a n d w a r r a n t ie s , " w h a t w e r e

y o u r e f e r ri n g t o ? M R . W I L K E NS : question. Y o u c a n a ns w e r . B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. A. Y o u c an a n s w e r . Oh. Th e c r e a t o r w o u l d , i n t h e t e x t o f t h e Objection to the form of the

c o n t r a c t s , a f f i r m t h a t t h e y h el d t h e n e c e s s a r y rights to the material and the -- and the content. B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. W a s t ha t a n i n v o l v e d p r o ce s s ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : sense? Can you -Objection. V a g u e.

In- -- "involved" in what

B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. W a s t he p r o c e s s o f c l e a r in g t h e r i g h t s a n d

o b t a i n i n g r e p r e s e n t a t i o n s a n d w a r r a n t i e s f r o m t h o se

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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S C O T T R O E SC H i n v o l v e d in t h e c r e a t i o n o f t he c o n t e n t a n i n v o l v ed process? Wa s i t t i m e c o n s u m i ng ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : Same objection. It actually would vary

g r e a t l y b et w e e n - - f r o m d e a l to d e a l . B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. B u t i n c e r t a i n c i r c u m s t a nc e s i t c o u l d b e

quite time -- time consuming? A. Q. Yes. How -- how long would you say an average

deal took to negotiate? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : O b j e c t i o n t o f o r m. I t ' s d i f f i c u l t f or m e t o - -

t o e s t i m a te t h a t , b e c a u s e t h e re w a s a w i d e r a n g e in v a r i a n c e , b u t I c a n s a y a c o u pl e o f w e e k s . B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. W h y d id - - d i d A t o m f e e l i t w a s n e c e s s a r y

t o o b t a i n r e p r e s e n t a t i o n s a n d w a r r a n t i e s f r o m t h e se creators? M R . W I L K E NS : Objection to the form. And

I ' m g o i n g t o c a u t i o n t h e w i t n es s , t o t h e e x t e n t t ha t c a l l s f o r a t t o r n e y - c l i e n t p r i vi l e g e o r l e g a l a d v i ce , I i n s t r u c t y o u n o t t o a n s w e r as t o t h a t . B u t i f y o u c a n a n s w e r o t h e r w i se , g o r i g h t

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S C O T T R O E SC H ahead. T H E W I T N E SS : question? B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. W h y d id A t o m f e e l i t w a s n e c e s s a r y t o Can you repeat -- repeat the

o b t a i n r e pr e s e n t a t i o n s a n d w a rr a n t i e s f r o m t h e s e creators? A. We -- we wanted to build a business on the

d i s t r i b u t io n o f c o n t e n t , s o w e w a n t e d t o m a k e s u r e t h a t - - t ha t p e o p l e t h a t c o n t ri b u t e d t o t h e c r e a t io n o f t h e c o nt e n t w e r e - - y o u k n ow , t h a t - - t h a t - t h a t t h e y w e r e w i l l i n g p a r t i c ip a n t s i n t h e - - i n th e c r e a t i o n an d - - a n d d i s t r i b u t io n o f t h e c o n t e n t . Q. S o y o u t o o k c o p y r i g h t i s su e s s e r i o u s l y ,

a n d y o u w an t e d t o m a k e s u r e t ha t y o u w e r e - - y o u ha d c l e a r e d t he c o p y r i g h t i s s u e s wi t h t h e c r e a t o r s b e f o r e y o u d i s t r i b u t e d t h e i r wo r k s ? M R . W I L K E NS : Objection. M i s c ha r a c t e r i z e s

h i s t e s t i mo n y a n d c a l l s f o r a l e g a l c o n c l u s i o n . MR. RUBIN: I - - I d i d n ' t - - w as n ' t I was

attempting to characterize his testimony. a s k i n g a qu e s t i o n . T H E W I T N E SS : question? C a n y o u r e p e a t t he

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S C O T T R O E SC H B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. Sure. A t o m F i l m s t o o k c o py r i g h t i s s u e s

s e r i o u s l y a n d w a n t e d t o e n s u r e t h a t i t w a s c l e a r i ng c o p y r i g h t i s s u e s w i t h i t s - - wi t h t h e c r e a t o r s o f t h e c o n t e nt i t w a s i n t e n d i n g to d i s t r i b u t e b e f o r e i t d i s t r i b u t ed t h e m ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. A n d y ou w o u l d n o t h a v e a dv o c a t e d a Objection. Yes. V a g u e.

b u s i n e s s mo d e l f o r A t o m F i l m s u n l e s s y o u b e l i e v e d t h a t t h a t b u s i n e s s m o d e l w o u l d h a v e b e e n i n t h e s am e v e i n o f s up p o r t i n g c o p y r i g h t in t e r e s t s o f c r e a t o r s' content -M R . W I L K E NS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. -- is that right? M R . W I L K E NS : question. T H E W I T N E SS : that. I ' m n o t s u r e I u nd e r s t a n d -- to the form of the Objection --

Y o u 'r e a s k i n g m e t o s p ec u l a t e a b o u t a

different business model? B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. N o , n ot a t a l l . I ' m s a y i ng , y o u , a s a

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S C O T T R O E SC H m e m b e r o f - - o f m a y b e , i f n o t t h e f o u n d i n g , t h e n ea r f o u n d i n g te a m o f A t o m , b e l i e v ed t h a t t h e r e s p e c t fo r c o p y r i g h t w a s i m p o r t a n t t o t h e A t o m F i l m s b u s i n e s s; isn't that right? A. Q. Yes. A n d y ou w o u l d n ' t h a v e a d vo c a t e d a

direction for the business at any point that d e v i a t e d fr o m t h a t , w o u l d y o u ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : Objection to the form. I d o n ' t t h i n k I di d a d v o c a t e

a d i r e c t i on f o r t h e b u s i n e s s th a t d e v i a t e d f r o m i t. B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. S o t h e a n s w e r t o m y q u e s ti o n i s : No,

y o u w o u l d n' t h a v e a d v o c a t e d a d i r e c t i o n t h a t d e v i a t e d fr o m t h o s e c o r e p r i n ci p l e s o f r e s p e c t i n g copyright? M R . W I L K E NS : asked and answered. MR. RUBIN: Scott. I t h a s n ' t b e e n a n s we r e d , Objection to the form, and

S t op i n t e r r u p t i n g . M R . W I L K E NS : Objection. That same

objection. T H E W I T N E SS : t h a t d e v i at e d f r o m t h a t . I didn't advocate a model T h a t' s m y b e l i e f .

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S C O T T R O E SC H B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. right. D i d A t o m Fi l m s e v e r o b t a i n v e nt u r e financing? A. Q. A. Yes. F r o m wh o m ? F r o m a v a r i e t y o f s o u r c e s, a n d I ' m n o t Okay. T h a t a n s w e r s m y q u es t i o n . All

g o i n g t o be a b l e t o g i v e y o u an e x h a u s t i v e l i s t , bu t o n e w a s A ll e n & C o . , o n e w a s Ar t s A l l i a n c e . A n d , y o u kn o w , a f t e r t h e m e r g er w i t h S h o c k W a v e , y o u k n o w , o n e o f t h e i r ve n t u r e c a p i t a l i s t s ha d b e e n S e q u oi a , a n d t h e r e a r e a n u m b e r o f o t h e r s . Q. H o w m an y r o u n d s o f v e n t u re f i n a n c i n g d i d

Atom films have, either before or after the Shock W a v e m e r g er ? A. Q. I ' m n ot e n t i r e l y s u r e . D o y o u k n o w i f S e q u o i a i nv e s t e d i n t h e

c o m p a n y p os t m e r g e r w i t h S h o c k W a v e ? A. I ' m n ot s u r e . I'd be -- I would -- I --

I ' d b e s p ec u l a t i n g . Q. A. D o y o u k n o w w h e n t h e r o u nd s w e r e ? I know that there were -- there was some

a n g e l f u n di n g o f A t o m i n ' 9 8 , a n d o u r f i r s t r o u n d

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S C O T T R O E SC H o f - - o r sa y " t h e y , " I g u e s s -- w a s i n e a r l y ' 9 9 . A n d t h e n af t e r t h a t a n o t h e r - - I k n o w t h e r e w a s a t l e a s t o n e a d d i t i o n a l r o u n d , b ut I - - I d o n ' t r e c a ll when. Q. So you don't -- you can't recall the

n u m b e r o f v e n t u r e f i n a n c i n g r ou n d s t h a t A t o m h a d ? A. T h e n um b e r o f r o u n d s ? M R . W I L K E NS : answered. T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. D o y o u k n o w h o w m u c h m o n ey w a s r a i s e d , i n No. Objection. Asked and

t o t a l , t h ro u g h v e n t u r e f i n a n c in g f o r A t o m ? A. Q. I - - I d o n ' t k n o w t h e s p ec i f i c n u m b e r . D o y o u h a v e a r o u g h n u m b er ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : Objection. I -- I believe it was

2 0 m i l l i o n, p o s s i b l y s l i g h t l y h i g h e r f o r t h e A t o m - y o u k n o w , f o r t h e p r e S h o c k W av e m e r g e r a t o m F i l m s, and again, that's not -- that wasn't my area of r e s p o n s i b il i t y . on memory. B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. Sure. So that's -- I'm doing that based

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SCOTT ROESCH I w a s a s k i n g y o u w h e th e r t h i s e - m a i l i s r e p r e s e n t a t i v e o f t h at i n s t a n c e . A. Q. T h i s e - m a i l r e f er s t o t h e s a m e c r ea t o r s . M e g a n O ' N e i l l a sk e d y o u t o c h e c k ou t a Do you see that?

v i d e o c l i p i n t h i s e -m a i l . A. Q. A. I do.

W h a t w a s t h a t c li p ? I b e l i e v e t h i s wa s - - I r e m e m b e r th i s i s

a n e p i s o d e o f a - - o f w h a t t h e y i n t e n de d t o b e a s e r i e s c a l l e d " C e l e b ri t y B r i c - a - b r ac T h e a t e r . " Q. A. Q. D i d y o u v i e w t h at c l i p ? I did. A n d d i d y o u b e l ie v e t h a t c l i p t o in f r i n g e

any copyrights? MR. WILKENS: O b j e c t io n t o t h e f o r m .

C a l l s f o r a l e g a l c o nc l u s i o n . THE WITNESS: N o , I -- I b e l i e v e d t h e --

t h e v i d e o t o b e a l l or i g i n a l m a t e r i al t h e y ' d created. BY MR. RUBIN: Q. D i d a n y o n e a c t u al l y r e a c h o u t t o th e m i n

r e s p o n s e t o t h e d i s c us s i o n o n t h i s e- m a i l ? A. Q. Yes. A n d w a s a d e a l ul t i m a t e l y c o n s u m ma t e d - -

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S C O T T R O E SC H A. Q. Um -- - b e tw e e n A t o m a n d t h e in d i v i d u a l s

referenced in the e-mail? A. Q. Yes. A n d d id A t o m u l t i m a t e l y ho s t a n d

distribute content created by these individuals? A. Q. Yes. I n a d di t i o n t o l o o k i n g t o Y o u T u b e f o r

c o n t e n t , do y o u e v e r r e c a l l A to m l o o k i n g t o Y o u T u be f o r f e a t u re i d e a s - M R . W I L K E NS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. -- for its service? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : o f f e a t u r es ? B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. A. Q. A. A n y f ea t u r e s . W e b s i te f e a t u r e s ? Sure. Y e s , Yo u T u b e w a s a - - a we b s i t e t h a t w e Objection to the form. Would you clarify what types Objection to the form --

looked at and -- and we looked at the features on the -- on that site. Q. C a n y ou r e c a l l a n y p a r t i cu l a r f e a t u r e s

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S C O T T R O E SC H that Atom might have looked at on YouTube in an a t t e m p t t o i n c o r p o r a t e t h e m i nt o t h e A t o m F i l m s website? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : Objection to the form. We -- hm. I t h i nk - - I

t h i n k - - I t h i n k o n e f e a t u r e th a t Y o u T u b e h a d , i n a d d i t i o n to o t h e r s i t e s a t t h e t i m e , w a s a f e a t u r e t h a t a l l o we d u s e r s t o u p l o a d vi d e o s d i r e c t l y t o a - to the web side. feature. Q. I s t h at a f e a t u r e y o u u l ti m a t e l y So we -- we looked at that

i m p l e m e n t ed ? A. W e u p lo a d e d - - o r w e i m p le m e n t e d a n u p l o a d

feature on a -- initially on a -- another website t h a t w e c on t r o l l e d . Q. D o y o u - - d i d y o u , o r a n yo n e e l s e a t A t o m ,

e v e r c o n d uc t a c o m p e t i t i v e a n al y s i s o f Y o u T u b e ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : Objection to the form. W e c o n d u c t e d a n a ly s i s . I

b e l i e v e t he a n a l y s i s w a s i n t he c o n t e x t o f a - - o f p o t e n t i a l v e n d o r s f o r - - t o p ow e r a w h i t e l a b e l website. I d o n ' t r e c a l l t h e sp e c i f i c c o m p e t i t i v e

a n a l y s i s th a t w e c o n d u c t e d , b ut w e d i d a n a l y z e t h e site.

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S C O T T R O E SC H MR. RUBIN: E x h i b i t N um b e r 4 . ( R o e s c h D ep o s i t i o n E x h i b i t N u mb e r 4 w a s marked for identification.) B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. M r . R oe s c h , t h i s i s a n e -m a i l t h a t C i n d y I ' d l i k e t o i n t r o d uc e R o e s c h

E m c h s e n t t o M _ A T O M _ A t o m F i l m s _T e a m @ V i a c o m . c o m o n O c t o b e r 2 4t h , 2 0 0 7 , a n d V i a c o m p r o d u c e d i n t h i s l i t i g a t i o n, b e a r i n g B a t e s n u m be r V I A 0 2 4 7 8 7 8 9 . W h o i s C i nd y E m c h ? A. Q. A. C i n d y E m c h w a s a - - a m e mb e r o f m y t e a m . W h a t wa s h e r r o l e o n y o u r t e a m ? S h e h ad a c o u p l e o f d i f f er e n t r o l e s . I

b e l i e v e h er r o l e a t t h i s t i m e w a s p r o m o t i n g c o n t e nt o n A t o m F il m s a n d A t o m U p l o a d s o r A d d i c t i n g C l i p s ' website. Q. A. Q. A. D i d y ou r e c e i v e t h i s e - m ai l ? Yes. D i d y ou - Well, sorry. I b e l i e v e t ha t I d i d ,

b e c a u s e I w a s a m e m b e r o f t h i s A t o m F i l m s t e a m l i st . Q. Thank you. D o y o u s e e t h e f i r s t l i n e o f th i s e - m a i l ? A. Yes.

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S C O T T R O E SC H A. I ' v e re c e i v e d a d d i t i o n a l e - m a i l a d d r e s s e s .

M y p r e v i o us e - m a i l a d d r e s s e s ha v e n o t c h a n g e d . Q. W h a t e- m a i l a d d r e s s d o y ou u s e o n a d a i l y

basis for work? A. Q. I use [e-mail] or [e-mail]. D o t h e o t h e r e - m a i l a d d r es s e s y o u j u s t

referenced as having obtained following the Viacom a c q u i s i t i on o f A t o m a l l p o i n t t o o n e o f t h o s e e - m ai l addresses? A. Q. Yes, I believe so. W h e n th e s w i t c h t o V i a c o m t o o k p l a c e , d o

y o u k n o w wh a t h a p p e n e d t o t h e e - m a i l s t h a t y o u h a d o n t h e V i ac o m - - t h e A t o m e - m ai l s e r v e r ? A. Q. No. C u r r e nt l y d o y o u k n o w t h e s e r v e r o n w h i c h

y o u r e - m a il s a r e s t o r e d ? A. Q. No. G e n e r al l y s p e a k i n g , a s a p r a c t i c e , d o y o u

s a v e o r d o y o u d e l e t e y o u r e - ma i l ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : t h e s p e c i fi c e - m a i l . B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. W h a t cr i t e r i a d o y o u a p p ly ? Objection to the form. It depends on the e-mail,

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S C O T T R O E SC H A. I may -- if -- if I think there's an

e - m a i l t h at I m a y w a n t t o r e f er t o a g a i n i n t h e future, I would -- you know, I might save that in a f o l d e r t h at ' s e a s i l y a c c e s s i b le t o m e . Q. A n d w ha t f a c t s d e t e r m i n e w h e t h e r o r n o t

y o u ' r e l i ke l y t o w a n t t o r e f e r t o a n e - m a i l i n t h e future? A. ( W i t n es s s h r u g s . ) I f i t ha s i n f o r m a t i o n

i n t h e r e th a t m a y b e p e r t i n e n t t o a n o n g o i n g i n i t i a t i v e o r a f a c t t h a t I m ig h t n e e d t o r e t r i e v e. Q. A. Q. J o b - r el a t e d i s s u e s , t h e n ? Yes. A r e y ou f a m i l i a r w i t h a we b s i t e k n o w n a s

A d d i c t i n g Cl i p s ? A. Q. website? A. Q. A. Q. A. I w a s r e s p o n s i b l e f o r t h at w e b s i t e . C a n y ou d e s c r i b e t h a t w e bs i t e , g e n e r a l l y ? Yes. Please do. A d d i c ti n g C l i p s w a s a w e b si t e w h e r e c o n t e n t Yes. W h a t wa s y o u r i n v o l v e m e n t w i t h t h a t

c r e a t o r s co u l d u p l o a d t h e i r m at e r i a l d i r e c t l y t o th e site.

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S C O T T R O E SC H Q. H o w d id A d d i c t i n g C l i p s l im i t t h e u p l o a d o f

materials to content creators? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : Objection to the form. T h e - - t h e s i t e wa s - - w a s

a v a i l a b l e f o r a n y b o d y t o u p l o ad . B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. W a s t he f u n c t i o n a l i t y o f t h e A d - - - o f t h e

A d d i c t i n g Cl i p s w e b s i t e a l w a y s s u c h t h a t a n y b o d y c o u l d u p l oa d c o n t e n t t o t h e s er v i c e ? A. Q. No. C a n y ou d e s c r i b e t h e o r i gi n a l

f u n c t i o n a li t y o f t h e A d - - - o f t h e A d d i c t i n g C l i p s website? A. Y e s , th e f i r s t v e r s i o n o f A d d i c t i n g C l i p s

w a s a d i r ec t o r y o f l i n k s p o i n ti n g o u t t o t h i r d - p a r ty - - t o c o n t e n t o n th i r d - p a r t y w e b s i t e s . Q. W h y w ou l d A t o m c h o o s e t o l a u n c h

A d d i c t i n g Cl i p s ? A. W e l l , w e b e l i e v e d t h e r e wa s i n t e r e s t i n g

c o n t e n t o n o t h e r s i t e s t h a t u se r s w o u l d b e i n t e r e s t e d i n , a n d t h a t a - - a d i r e c t o r y o f s o m e of t h a t c o n t en t w o u l d b e i n t e r e s ti n g t o t h e m . Q. A. W h o w as i n v o l v e d i n m a k i ng t h a t d e c i s i o n ? I w a s i n v o l v e d , a l o n g w i th a c o u p l e

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S C O T T R O E SC H members of my team, and -- and some of the other A t o m E n t e rt a i n m e n t m a n a g e m e n t . Q. A. Who by name was involved in that decision? M i k a Sa l m i w a s i n v o l v e d ; P e t e r I g n a c i o ,

f o r t h e - - f o r w h a t e v e r - - I th i n k M i k a a n d P e t e r a r e p r o b a bl y t h e p r i m a r y p e o p le i n v o l v e d . Q. Would you say that anyone owned the idea? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. A. Q. A. It was more collaborative then? Yes. Could you pinpoint whose idea it was? I c a n 't r e c a l l . MR. RUBIN: E x h i b i t 1 0. ( R o e s c h D ep o s i t i o n E x h i b i t N u mb e r 1 0 w a s marked for identification.) B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. M r . R oe s c h , E x h i b i t 1 0 i s a d o c u m e n t I ' d l i k e t o i n t r o d uc e R o e s c h Objection to the form. No.

V i a c o m p r od u c e d i n t h i s c a s e fr o m y o u r f i l e s entitled: " U s e r - G e n er a t e d V i d e o ( U G V ) s er v i c e R e c o m m e n d at i o n , S c o t t R , 9 / 1 6 / 05 , "

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S C O T T R O E SC H b e a r s B a t es n u m b e r V I A 0 2 9 2 7 2 82 t h r o u g h - 8 4 . D o y o u r e co g n i z e t h i s d o c u m e n t? M R . W I L K E NS : Scott. T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. A. Q. A. D i d y ou d r a f t i t ? Yes. W h a t is i t ? I t ' s a d o c u m e n t t h a t b u i ld s o n i n t e r n a l I r e c o g n i z e t h e do c u m e n t . Take your time to review it,

d i s c u s s i o ns a n d a t t e m p t s t o - - a t t e m p t s t o r e c o m m en d a c o u r s e of a c t i o n . Q. A. W h a t co u r s e o f a c t i o n d o es i t r e c o m m e n d ? I ' m g oi n g t o t a k e a m i n u te a n d f i n i s h

r e a d i n g i t. Q. A. Sure. T h e d oc u m e n t r e c o m m e n d s ex p a n d i n g t h e

m i s s i o n o f A t o m F i l m s t o i n c l ud e u s e r - g e n e r a t e d video. B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. number 1? A. Q. Yes. D o t h os e p o i n t s a c c u r a t e ly r e f l e c t y o u r O n t h e f i r s t p a g e , M r . R oe s c h , d o y o u s e e

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S C O T T R O E SC H r e a s o n s f or w a n t i n g t o l a u n c h a U G C w e b s i t e i n September of 2005? A. T h e y -- t h e y a c c u r a t e l y re f l e c t s o m e o f

t h e - - t h e r e a s o n s w e w a n t e d to d o t h a t . Q. All of the reasons listed here are

a c c u r a t e th o u g h , a r e n ' t t h e y ? A. Q. though? A. Yeah, as indicated in -- in Section 2, Yes. Y o u j us t i n d i c a t e d t h e r e w e r e o t h e r s ,

t h e - - w e b e l i e v e d t h a t i t w o ul d b e i m p o r t a n t a s a c o n t e n t d es t i n a t i o n , a c o n t e n t s i t e . Q. Y o u r go a l i n l a u n c h i n g t hi s U G C s i t e w a s

n o t t o p r of i t f r o m i n f r i n g i n g v i d e o s t h a t m i g h t b e u p l o a d e d or l i n k e d f r o m t h a t si t e , w a s i t ? A. Q. No. D i d y ou r e c o g n i z e t h a t b y a l l o w i n g u s e r s

t o u p l o a d m a t e r i a l t o t h e s e r vi c e d i r e c t l y , i t m i gh t b e p o s s i b le t h a t t h e y m i g h t u pl o a d i n f r i n g i n g m a t e r i a l to t h e s e r v i c e ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. A n d b ef o r e l a u n c h i n g t h e s i t e y o u v e t t e d Objection to the form. Yes.

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S C O T T R O E SC H t h e l e g a l it y o f A d d i c t i n g C l i p s; r i g h t ? M R . W I L K E NS : Objection to the form.

Y o u c a n a ns w e r t h a t " y e s " o r "n o . " T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. A n d y ou t h o u g h t i t w a s o pe r a t i n g w i t h i n Yes.

t h e l a w ; ri g h t ? M R . W I L K E NS : Objection to the form.

Calls for a legal conclusion. Y o u c a n a ns w e r " y e s " o r " n o . " T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. A. W h e n di d t h a t s i t e l a u n c h? T h e f ir s t v e r s i o n o f t h e s i t e o f f e r i n g Yes.

u p l o a d f u nc t i o n a l i t y l a u n c h e d i n t h e s p r i n g o f 2 0 06 . Q. right? A. Q. Yes. W h e n -- a n d w h a t d i d t h e v e r s i o n b e f o r e T h e r e w a s a v e r s i o n b e f o re t h a t t h o u g h ;

t h e u p l o a d f u n c t i o n a l i t y v e r s io n p r o v i d e ? A. There was a directory of links to content

o n o t h e r si t e s . Q. launch? A n d w he n d i d t h a t v e r s i o n o f t h e s i t e

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S C O T T R O E SC H A. Q. A. Q. T h a t la u n c h e d i n l a t e 2 0 05 . Did it launch in December of 2005? That's possible. T h a t s o un d s a b o u t r i g h t .

C a n y ou d e s c r i b e h o w t h e l i n k s c o n t e n t

a p p e a r e d on t h e A d d i c t i n g C l i p s w e b s i t e ? A. of links. I r e c - - - I r e c o l l e c t t h at i t w a s a l i s t M o s t o f t h e h o m e p ag e w a s t a k e n u p w i t h a

l i s t o f l in k s . Q. A n d w ha t h a p p e n e d w h e n a u s e r c l i c k e d o n

o n e o f t h os e l i n k s ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : Objection to the form. A u s e r w o u l d b e ta k e n t o t h e

t h i r d p a r ty w e b s i t e w i t h a n A dd i c t i n g C l i p s f r a m e on t h e - - a t t h e t o p o f t h e s c r e en . B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. S o t h e t h i r d - p a r t y w e b s i te w a s f r a m e d b y The third-party

a n A d d i c t in g C l i p s f r a m e - - s o rr y .

c o n t e n t w as f r a m e d b y a n A d d i ct i n g C l i p s s i t e ? A. T h e t hi r d - p a r t y w e b p a g e a p p e a r e d i n i t s

e n t i r e t y , w i t h a v e r y s m a l l A dd i c t i n g C l i p s , q u o t e - u n q uo t e , f r a m e a t t h e t op o f t h e p a g e . Q. D i d A to m a d v e r t i s e o n t h at i t e r a t i o n o f

t h e A d d i c ti n g C l i p s w e b s i t e ? A. I b e l ie v e t h e r e i s - - t h er e w e r e

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S C O T T R O E SC H a d v e r t i s i ng s o n t h e - - a d v e r t is e m e n t s o n t h e h o m e p a g e , a n d t h e r e w e r e n o t a d v e rt i s e m e n t s o n t h e f r a m e s , a nd I d o n ' t r e c a l l i f t h e r e w e r e a n y o t h e r a d v e r t i s e me n t s o n t h e s e r v i c e . Q. W h e n yo u s a y " t h e h o m e p ag e , " a r e y o u

referring to the page with the directory of links? A. Q. Yes. D i d A to m p l a c e t h e v a r i o us c l i p s i t w a s

a g g r e g a t i ng i n t o c a t e g o r i e s ? M R . W I L K E NS : T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. content? M R . W I L K E NS : question. T H E W I T N E SS : B Y M R . R U BI N : Q. questions. I see an error in one of my prior We were referring to iteration of the D i d A t o m p l ac e Yes. Objection to the form of the D i d y ou p r o v i d e d e s c r i p t io n s o f t h e O b j e c t i o n t o f o r m. I d o n ' t - - I d o n 't r e c a l l .

s i t e w h e n i t w a s l i n k i n g t o c on t e n t .

t h e v a r i o us l i n k s i t w a s a g g r eg a t i n g i n t o c a t e g o r i e s? A. I -- I don't recall.

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S C O T T R O E SC H Q. A n d y ou d o n ' t r e c a l l w h e th e r A t o m p r o v i d e d

a n y d e s c r ip t i o n s o f t h o s e l i n ks e i t h e r ? A. I d o re c a l l t h a t , a n d w e d i d p r o v i d e

d e s c r i