Apple Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. et al

Filing 1350

UNREDACTED NOTICE OF MOTIONS AND MOTIONS in Limine by Samsung Electronics America, Inc.(a New York corporation), Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Samsung Telecommunications America, LLC(a Delaware limited liability company) re 1256 Order on Administrative Motion to File Under Seal, (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit C to the D'Amato Declaration, # 2 Exhibit E to the D'Amato Declaration, # 3 Exhibit G to the D'Amato Declaration, # 4 Exhibit H to the D'Amato Declaration, # 5 Exhibit J to the D'Amato Declaration, # 6 Exhibit K to the D'Amato Declaration, # 7 Exhibit L to the D'Amato Declaration, # 8 Exhibit M to the D'Amato Declaration, # 9 Exhibit N to the D'Amato Declaration, # 10 Exhibit T to the D'Amato Declaration, # 11 Exhibit V to the D'Amato Declaration, # 12 Exhibit W to the D'Amato Declaration)(Maroulis, Victoria) (Filed on 7/26/2012) Modified text on 7/27/2012 (dhm, COURT STAFF).

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· · · UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
· · ·NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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·3· · · · · · ·Civil Action No.:· 11-CV-01846-LHK
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· · ·APPLE, INC., a California corporation,
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·SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD.,
·a Korean business entity;
·SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS AMERICA, INC.,
·a New York corporation; and
·SAMSUNG TELECOMMUNICATIONS AMERICA, LLC,
·a Delaware limited liability company,
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·Tuesday, April 17, 2012
· · · ·Kim & Chang
· ·Seoul, South Korea
·1:24 p.m. to 6:24 p.m.

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·1· · · · · · · P R O C E E D I N G S
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·3· · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· My name is Inga Kornev, a

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·4· ·videographer with American Realtime Court

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·5· ·Reporters/Asia.

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·6· · · ·The date today is April 17th, 2012.· And the

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·7· ·time on the video monitor is 1:24.

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·8· · · ·This deposition is being held at the

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·9· ·Renaissance Hotel in Seoul, South Korea.

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10· · · ·The caption of this case is Apple, Inc.

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11· ·versus Samsung Electronics Co., held in the

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12· ·United States District Court, Northern District

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13· ·of California, San Jose Division, with a civil

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14· ·action number of 11-CV-01846-LHK.

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15· · · ·The name of the witness today is Gee-Sung

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16· ·Choi, testifying in his individual capacity.

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17· · · ·The court reporter today is Tracey LoCastro,

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18· ·also with American Realtime Court

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19· ·Reporters/Asia.

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20· · · ·At this time I would like to ask all counsel

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21· ·and interpreters and all present to please state

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22· ·their appearances and whom they represent for

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23· ·the record.· And please speak up.

01:25:32

24· · · ·MR. MCELHINNY:· My name is Harold McElhinny.

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25· ·I'm here as an attorney for Apple, Inc., and I

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·1· ·represent the plaintiff in these actions.

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·2· · · ·MR. CHUNG:· Minn Chung from Morrison and

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·3· ·Foerster for Apple.

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·4· · · ·MS. STEPHANIE KIM:· Stephanie Kim from

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·5· ·Morrison and Foerster for Apple.

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·6· · · ·MR. HALL:· Scott Hall from Quinn Emanuel for

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·7· ·Samsung.

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·8· · · ·MR. ZELLER:· Mike Zeller for Samsung.

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·9· · · ·MR. QUINN:· John Quinn representing Samsung

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10· ·and the witness, Mr. Choi.

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11· · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· All others, please state

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12· ·their name for the record.

01:26:00

13· · · ·MR. BRIAN KIM:· Brian Kim, Samsung inhouse.

01:26:05

14· · · ·MR. KIJOONG KANG:· Kijoong Kang, Samsung

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15· ·inhouse.

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16· · · ·LEAD INTERPRETER:· Albert S. Kim,

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17· ·interpreter of record.

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18· · · ·CHECK INTERPRETER:· Ann Park, check

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19· ·interpreter.

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20· · · ·MR. MCELHINNY:· This is a stipulation that

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21· ·I've been given that I understand that we both

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22· ·will join in.

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23· · · ·It says:· We understand the court reporter

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24· ·is not authorized to administer oaths in this

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25· ·venue; nevertheless, we request that she

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·1· · · · ·administer the oaths, and we stipulate that we

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·2· · · · ·waive any objection to the validity of the

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·3· · · · ·deposition based on the oaths.

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·4· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· That is fine.
·5· · · · · · ·COURT REPORTER:· Do you solemnly swear or
·6· · · · ·affirm that you will well and truly interpret
·7· · · · ·the questions propounded by counsel and the
·8· · · · ·answers given by the witness from Korean to
·9· · · · ·English and English to Korean to the best of

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10· · · · ·your ability?

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11· · · · · · ·LEAD INTERPRETER:· I do.

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12· · · · · · ·CHECK INTERPRETER:· Yes, I do.

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13· · · · · · · · · · · GEE-SUNG CHOI,

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14· ·after having been duly sworn by the reporter, pursuant

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15· ·to stipulation of counsel, was examined and testified

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16· ·through the interpreter as follows:

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17· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I do.

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18· · · · · · · · · · · · ·EXAMINATION

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19· ·BY MR. MCELHINNY:

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20· · · ·Q.· · Good afternoon, Vice-Chairman Choi.· As you

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21· ·may have heard, my name is Harold McElhinny.· I'm with

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22· ·the law firm of Morrison and Foerster and I'm

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23· ·representing Apple, and I'm going to ask you some

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24· ·questions this afternoon.

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25· · · · · · ·Sir, have you ever given testimony under

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·1· · · ·Q.· · Thank you.

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·2· · · ·A.· · And in terms of those units that belong

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·3· ·under his auspices, those would be Mobile

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·4· ·Communications, Telecom Systems, IT Solutions and

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·5· ·Digital Imaging.

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·6· · · ·Q.· · Thank you.

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·7· · · · · · ·Today does Samsung Electronics have a

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·8· ·business unit which is referred to as System LSI?

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·9· · · ·A.· · Yes, there is a business division called

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10· ·System LSI within Semiconductor.

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11· · · ·Q.· · And so today that would --

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12· · · ·A.· · The Semiconductor Business Unit.

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13· · · ·Q.· · And today that would report up through

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14· ·Mr. Kwon; is that correct?

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Yes,
15· · · ·A.· · Yes, that is correct.

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16· · · ·Q.· · And is it correct that my client Apple is a

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17· ·customer of the System LSI division?

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18· · · ·A.· · That is correct.

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19· · · ·Q.· · Is Apple the largest customer of the System

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20· ·LSI division?

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21· · · ·A.· · Of the System LSI division, I perhaps would

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22· ·believe so.
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23· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· At this point I'm going to

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24· · · · ·designate this entire transcript as being highly

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25· · · · ·confidential and attorneys' eyes only under the

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·1· · · · ·terms of the protective order in this case.

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·2· ·BY MR. MCELHINNY:

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·3· · · ·Q.· · Do you know, sir, approximately, what the

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·4· ·volume of business in U.S. dollars was that Apple did

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·5· ·with the System LSI division last year?

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·6· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· Vague and ambiguous as to volume

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·7· · · · ·of business.

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·8· · · ·A.· · Well, if you want me to state it in dollars

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·9· ·I will try, but I don't know as to the exact amount.

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10· ·BY MR. MCELHINNY:

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11· · · ·Q.· · Fair enough.

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12· · · · · · ·There have been reports that Apple paid

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year.
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13· ·Samsung in excess of 8 billion dollars last year.· Do

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14· ·you know whether that is accurate or not?

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15· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· I object to the preamble to the

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16· · · · ·question, assumes facts not in evidence.

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17· · · · · · ·MR. MCELHINNY:· I'm going to rephrase the

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18· · · · ·question.

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19· ·BY MR. MCELHINNY:

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20· · · ·Q.· · Did Apple pay Samsung in excess of 8 billion

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21· ·dollars last year?
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22· · · ·A.· · That I do not know for certain.

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23· · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Sir, do you know whether or not in

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24· ·doing business with System LSI Apple gives to that

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25· ·Samsung business unit confidential Apple information?

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·1· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· Vague and ambiguous.

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·2· · · ·A.· · No, there is no such event.

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·3· · · · · · ·In fact, the reason why we split up the

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·4· ·organization as we did was in order that there be no

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·5· ·cross sharing of such information so that there be no

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·6· ·such appearance as to any improprieties.

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·7· ·BY MR. MCELHINNY:

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·8· · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Which is my question.· First of all,

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·9· ·does Apple place orders with the System LSI division?

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10· · · ·A.· · Well, I know that the division does business

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11· ·with Apple.· I also know that Apple is a big customer

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12· ·of ours.

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13· · · ·Q.· · Within Samsung does Samsung treat the size

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14· ·of the orders that Apple places as confidential

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15· ·information?

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16· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· Objection.· Lacks foundation.

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17· · · ·A.· · The company happens to have a number of

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18· ·clientele, and as a matter of principle, the company

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19· ·does not disclose the amount of business it does with

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20· ·each of such clientele.

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21· ·BY MR. MCELHINNY:

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22· · · ·Q.· · Does Apple -- does Samsung disclose to its

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23· ·Mobile Communications Unit the size of the orders that

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24· ·Apple has placed with its System LSI division?

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25· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· Counsel, I've listened as you've

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·1· · ·asked a few questions in this area, and so far

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·2· · ·as I'm aware, this is completely irrelevant to

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·3· · ·any issue in this case.· We're here for a short

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·4· · ·period of time and I'm just wondering if you can

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·5· · ·explain to us the relevance of these inquiries.

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·6· ·A.· · The company, as a matter of principle --

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·7· · · · ·MR. QUINN:· Well, wait a minute.· Excuse me,

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·8· · ·excuse me.· I've asked counsel to clarify the

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·9· · ·relevance, and I'm waiting for an explanation.

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10· · · · ·MR. MCELHINNY:· And you can wait because I'm

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11· · ·not going to take the time on the record to

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12· · ·explain it.· I'll take the answer.

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13· · · · ·MR. QUINN:· In my understanding in this

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14· · ·case, both sides have objected and refused to

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15· · ·disclose sensitive, irrelevant information.· And

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16· · ·I've asked for an explanation about the

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17· · ·relevance of this.· And as I understand it,

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18· · ·Counsel, you're refusing to explain it; is that

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19· · ·true?

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20· · · · ·MR. MCELHINNY:· I'm not going to take the

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21· · ·time on the record to explain the relevance.

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22· · · · ·LEAD INTERPRETER:· Yes, and interjection by

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23· · ·the interpreter.

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24· · · · ·With due respect to both parties, in the

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25· · ·absence of any instruction by Mr. Quinn, the

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·1· · · · ·gentleman did offer an answer.· The interpreter

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·2· · · · ·was partially done with the interpretation.· He

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·3· · · · ·is under legal obligation to render the rest of

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·4· · · · ·it.· And, therefore, the interpreter would like

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·5· · · · ·to remain in sync with all parties, therefore,

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·6· · · · ·as to the answer by the witness.

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·7· · · ·A.· · As a matter of principle, the company does

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·8· ·not disclose such kind of information.

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·9· · · · · · ·LEAD INTERPRETER:· Now, as for Mr. Quinn's

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10· · · · ·objection to the witness --

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11· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· It was to the question.

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12· · · · · · ·LEAD INTERPRETER:· Yes.

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13· · · · · · ·(Colloquy was interpreted.)

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14· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· If I may make inquiry of the

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15· · · · ·interpreter whether the interpreter has

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16· · · · ·interpreted my objection as well as

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17· · · · ·Mr. McElhinny's response.

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18· · · · · · ·LEAD INTERPRETER:· Yes.

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19· · · · · · ·And if Mr. Quinn could indulge the

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20· · · · ·interpreter and just allow the interpreter to

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21· · · · ·finish one thing at a time.· Yes.

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22· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· I apologize if I cut you off.

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23· · · · ·I'll try to do better.

01:56:33

24· · · · · · ·LEAD INTERPRETER:· No problem at all.

01:56:33

25· ·BY MR. MCELHINNY:

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·1· · · ·Q.· · Mr. Choi, during your career at Samsung,

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·2· ·were you ever the head of the Mobile Communications

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·3· ·Unit?

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·4· · · ·A.· · Yes.

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·5· · · ·Q.· · And during what period was that, sir?

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·6· · · ·A.· · It seems to me that that was from around the

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·7· ·end of 2006.· So in other words, starting in 2007

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·8· ·through about the end of 2008 for approximately a

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·9· ·two-year period of time.

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10· · · ·Q.· · Sir, did you ever hold the position as head

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11· ·of the design center at Samsung?
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12· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· I have an objection.· It assumes

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13· · · · ·facts not in evidence.· It's vague and

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14· · · · ·ambiguous.

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15· · · ·A.· · I have held the position as the head of the

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16· ·design center at one time or another.

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18· · · ·Q.· · And first, does the design center still

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20· · · ·A.· · Yes.

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21· · · ·Q.· · And what -- who makes up the design center?

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22· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· Vague and ambiguous.

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23· · · ·A.· · Designers, most of them are designers.
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24· ·BY MR. MCELHINNY:

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25· · · ·Q.· · And is the design center within a particular

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·1· · · ·Q.· · Why does Samsung seek to collect information

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·2· ·about its competitors' products?

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·3· · · · · · ·MR. MCELHINNY:· Beyond the scope.

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·4· · · ·A.· · That's in order to come up with a better

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·5· ·product in comparison to the competition out there from

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·6· ·a cost perspective, a quality perspective, a

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·7· ·performance perspective or usability perspective, every

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·8· ·perspective.

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·9· · · · · · ·MR. QUINN:· Nothing further.

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10· · · · · · ·MR. MCELHINNY:· I have no further questions.

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11· · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· This marks the end of disc

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