Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. President and Fellows of Harvard College et al

Filing 419

DECLARATION re 417 MOTION for Summary Judgment by President and Fellows of Harvard College. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 1, # 2 Exhibit 2, # 3 Exhibit 3, # 4 Exhibit 4, # 5 Exhibit 5, # 6 Exhibit 6, # 7 Exhibit 7, # 8 Exhibit 8, # 9 Exhibit 9, # 10 Exhibit 10, # 11 Exhibit 11, # 12 Exhibit 12, # 13 Exhibit 13, # 14 Exhibit 14, # 15 Exhibit 15, # 16 Exhibit 16, # 17 Exhibit 17, # 18 Exhibit 18, # 19 Exhibit 19, # 20 Exhibit 20, # 21 Exhibit 21, # 22 Exhibit 22, # 23 Exhibit 23, # 24 Exhibit 24, # 25 Exhibit 25, # 26 Exhibit 26, # 27 Exhibit 27, # 28 Exhibit 28, # 29 Exhibit 29, # 30 Exhibit 30, # 31 Exhibit 31, # 32 Exhibit 32, # 33 Exhibit 33, # 34 Exhibit 34, # 35 Exhibit 35, # 36 Exhibit 36, # 37 Exhibit 37, # 38 Exhibit 38, # 39 Exhibit 39, # 40 Exhibit 40, # 41 Exhibit 41, # 42 Exhibit 42, # 43 Exhibit 43, # 44 Exhibit 44, # 45 Exhibit 45, # 46 Exhibit 46, # 47 Exhibit 47, # 48 Exhibit 48, # 49 Exhibit 49, # 50 Exhibit 50, # 51 Exhibit 51, # 52 Exhibit 52, # 53 Exhibit 53, # 54 Exhibit 54, # 55 Exhibit 55, # 56 Exhibit 56, # 57 Exhibit 57, # 58 Exhibit 58, # 59 Exhibit 59, # 60 Exhibit 60, # 61 Exhibit 61, # 62 Exhibit 62, # 63 Exhibit 63, # 64 Exhibit 64, # 65 Exhibit 65, # 66 Exhibit 66, # 67 Exhibit 67, # 68 Exhibit 68, # 69 Exhibit 69, # 70 Exhibit 70, # 71 Exhibit 71, # 72 Exhibit 72, # 73 Exhibit 73, # 74 Exhibit 74, # 75 Exhibit 75, # 76 Exhibit 76, # 77 Exhibit 77, # 78 Exhibit 78, # 79 Exhibit 79, # 80 Exhibit 80, # 81 Exhibit 81, # 82 Exhibit 82, # 83 Exhibit 83, # 84 Exhibit 84, # 85 Exhibit 85, # 86 Exhibit 86, # 87 Exhibit 87, # 88 Exhibit 88, # 89 Exhibit 89, # 90 Exhibit 90, # 91 Exhibit 91, # 92 Exhibit 92, # 93 Exhibit 93, # 94 Exhibit 94, # 95 Exhibit 95, # 96 Exhibit 96, # 97 Exhibit 97)(Ellsworth, Felicia)

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EXHIBIT 15 Page 1 1 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 FOR THE DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS 3 BOSTON DIVISION 4 5 Civil Action No. 1:14-cv-14176-ADB ______________________________________________________ 6 DEPOSITION OF: - June 16, 2017 7 ______________________________________________________ 8 STUDENTS FOR FAIR ADMISSIONS, INC., 9 Plaintiff, 10 v. 11 PRESIDENT AND FELLOWS OF HARVARD COLLEGE 12 (HARVARD CORPORATION), 13 Defendant. 14 ______________________________________________________ 15 16 PURSUANT TO NOTICE AND SUBPOENA, the 17 deposition of was taken on behalf of the 18 Defendant at 1225 17th Street, Suite 2600, Denver, 19 Colorado 80202, on June 16, 2017, at 8:54 a.m., before 20 Sherry Wallin, Certified Realtime Reporter, Registered 21 Merit Reporter and Notary Public within Colorado. 22 23 24 25 212-279-9424 Veritext Legal Solutions www.veritext.com 212-490-3430 Page 37 1 offerings for upperclassmen? 2 A. Not as thoroughly, but yes. 3 Q. Are there any specific courses you are 4 thinking of taking at 5 A. ? I have some in mind. For example -- 6 obviously the courses required for the computer 7 science major. 8 courses I'm thinking of. 9 major and minor than I have at specific courses. 10 11 Q. I -- there aren't any very specific Like I've looked more at the Understood. Are there any professors you are looking forward to studying with at ? 12 A. Not in particular. 13 Q. Are there any extracurricular activities 14 you intend to participate in at 15 A. Possibly. ? Especially, like, the 16 Computer Science Club and 17 decided to basically make those decisions once I get 18 there, for the most part. 19 20 Q. groups at Quiz Bowl, but I have That makes sense. Are there any student that you anticipate joining? 21 A. Again, those same clubs. 22 Q. Sitting here today, do you expect that 23 you will graduate from in the spring of 2021? 24 A. I hope so, yes. 25 Q. Do you intend to apply to transfer from 212-279-9424 Veritext Legal Solutions www.veritext.com 212-490-3430 Page 38 1 to any other college or university? 2 3 A. no. 4 5 I don't anticipate that at the moment, Q. , has offered you any scholarship? 6 A. No. 7 Q. Has 8 offered you any merit-based financial award? 9 A. No. I did win the National Merit 10 Scholarship, but that applies to any university. 11 it's not through 12 MR. DULBERG: All right. 13 been going for a little under an hour. 14 So take a quick break. Why don't we 15 MR. PARK: 16 MR. DULBERG: 17 (Recess taken, 9:43 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.) 18 Q. 19 20 Yeah. I think we've That sounds good. Thank you. (BY MR. DULBERG) During the break, , did you discuss the deposition with your attorney? 21 A. Briefly. 22 Q. And what did you discuss? 23 A. I just asked him if I was doing well, 24 and he said yes, I should just slow down a little bit. 25 Q. 212-279-9424 Always good advice. Veritext Legal Solutions www.veritext.com 212-490-3430 Page 76 1 reimburse? 2 A. No. 3 Q. What's your understanding of the current 4 status of this case? 5 A. 6 So -MR. PARK: Objection. I just want to 7 warn you, like, not the contents of what we have 8 discussed about the case, but, you know, your 9 understanding without revealing, you can discuss. 10 A. So as I mentioned, I've been following 11 the case on Justia dockets' website, and I understand 12 that the case is in discovery, so both sides are 13 asking for -- each side is asking for evidence from 14 the other side, including -- that's what this 15 deposition is part of, and I know that later next year 16 the judge will either decide the case or hold a trial. 17 Q. (BY MR. DULBERG) That information that 18 you just described is based on your review of publicly 19 available information in this case; is that correct? 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. Have you ever voted to elect anyone who 22 has any role with respect to SFFA? 23 MR. PARK: Instructing the witness not 24 to answer the question, concerns SFFA's governance and 25 your rights as a member of SFFA. 212-279-9424 Veritext Legal Solutions www.veritext.com 212-490-3430 Page 80 1 A. I don't know of anyone who I know is a 2 member. There may be people who I know who happen to 3 be members, but I don't know that they're members. 4 Q. 5 a meeting of SFFA? 6 7 MR. PARK: 10 Have you ever attended You can answer that. You can answer. 8 9 (BY MR. DULBERG) A. revise that. No, I have not. Actually, I should I was on a phone conference for SFFA this past December. 11 Q. (BY MR. DULBERG) Is that a phone 12 conference that was open to all SFFA members, to the 13 best of your knowledge? 14 A. It was. All SFFA members received an 15 email a couple days before that stating there will be 16 this phone conference, dial in if you want to attend 17 it, and so I did. 18 Q. Was that the only time you were invited 19 to participate in a phone conference that all SFFA 20 members were invited to? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. Do you know whether there have been any 23 other phone conferences of SFFA members as a whole? 24 25 A. I don't think there have been any because, as I said, I have been a member since 212-279-9424 Veritext Legal Solutions www.veritext.com 212-490-3430 Page 81 1 November 2014, with my email address on the list. 2 I should have been contacted if there were others. 3 Q. So Do you know if there has ever been a 4 meeting of all SFFA members that you could have 5 attended? 6 MR. PARK: Objection. 7 A. I don't know of any such meeting, no. 8 Q. (BY MR. DULBERG) 9 knowledge, there have been no such meetings, correct? 10 MR. PARK: 11 12 A. Objection. To the best of my knowledge, yes, there have not been. 13 14 To the best of your MR. DULBERG: Let's mark the next exhibit. 15 (Deposition Exhibit 2 was marked.) 16 Q. (BY MR. DULBERG) Showing you what's 17 been marked as Exhibit 2, this is a document entitled 18 Re: 19 (SFFA) dated June 30, 2015. 20 document? Annual Report of Students for Fair Admissions Do you recognize this 21 A. Vaguely, yes. 22 Q. Have you seen it before? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. When? 25 A. I believe it was on June 30, 2015. 212-279-9424 I received it as an email. Veritext Legal Solutions www.veritext.com 212-490-3430 Page 127 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE STATE OF COLORADO ) ) ss. CITY AND COUNTY OF DENVER ) I, SHERRY A. WALLIN, Certified Realtime Reporter, Registered Merit Reporter and Notary Public ID 19874212873, State of Colorado, do hereby certify that previous to the commencement of the examination, the said was duly sworn by me to testify to the truth in relation to the matters in controversy between the parties hereto; that the said deposition was taken in machine shorthand by me at the time and place aforesaid and was thereafter reduced to typewritten form; that the foregoing is a true transcript of the questions asked, testimony given, and proceedings had. I further certify that I am not employed by, related to, nor of counsel for any of the parties herein, nor otherwise interested in the outcome of this litigation. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have affixed my signature this 23rd day of June, 2017. My commission expires May 14, 2019. __X__ Reading and Signing was requested. _____ Reading and Signing was waived. _____ Reading and Signing is not required. <%Signature%> SHERRY A. WALLIN Certified Realtime Reporter Registered Merit Reporter 24 25 212-279-9424 Veritext Legal Solutions www.veritext.com 212-490-3430

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