Ayyadurai v. Floor64, Inc. et al
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COMPLAINT against All Defendants Filing fee: $ 400, receipt number 0101-6439091 (Fee Status: Filing Fee paid), filed by Shiva Ayyadurai. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet, # 2 Exhibit, # 3 Exhibit, # 4 Exhibit, # 5 Exhibit, # 6 Exhibit, # 7 Exhibit, # 8 Exhibit, # 9 Exhibit, # 10 Exhibit, # 11 Exhibit, # 12 Exhibit, # 13 Exhibit, # 14 Exhibit, # 15 Exhibit, # 16 Exhibit, # 17 Exhibit, # 18 Exhibit, # 19 Exhibit, # 20 Exhibit, # 21 Exhibit)(Cornell, Timothy)
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As we noted Last week, Shiva Ayyadurai, a guy who didn't invent email but has built his entire
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Denton to end all of the Charles Harder-related lawsuits against Gawker, Again, Silicon Valley
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billionaire Peter Thiel, because of a personal grudge against Gawker, set up Lawyer Charles Harder
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reputation on the false claim that he did, was able to cash in on the settlement agreed to by Nick
the company. Harder filed a few, but the big one was the one filed by HuLk Hogan. Hogan won that
[after losing the first few attempts and then going jurisdiction shopping for a court that would
side with him). Almost everyone with any knowledge of the law agreed it was likely the verdict
would lose on appeal (the appeals court had already ruled earlier on this case in favor of Gawker),
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Either way, Denton finally settled the case rather than push on, because of the cost of defending it
and because Thiel had promised to keep funding the case as far as it would go. And, of course, it
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The Ayyadurai case was the most ridiculous of all. Ayyadurai did not invent email by any stretch
of the imagination, but likes to go around falsely claiming he did, and smearing those who
actually did the work, Thomas Haigh, a historian who keeps the most canonical explanation of
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Ayyadurai's misleading claims (including how they continue to morph and change and evolve over
time) has the full story but Gawker, among many others (including us) pointed out that he did not
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invent email. That led Ayyadurai and Charles Harder to sue Gawker -- presumably because (1) the
Gawker/ Ha rder/Thiel thing and (2) because Gawker used inflammatory language. The
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"settlement" meant that Ayyadurai got $750,000, though we're guessing a decent chunk of that
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Likely went to Harder. Ayyadurai, somewhat ridiculous, put out a press release laughably claiming
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that "this settlement is a victory for truth." It's not. It's the opposite, It's a victory for the opposite
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of truth and shows how abusing the legal system can get you paid out -- especially when there's a
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billionaire willing to help fund the questionable lawsuits.
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Anyway it appears that those who were actually involved in the creation of email are pretty
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damn upset by this turn of events and are speaking out. If you go back to the early RFC on the
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creation of email, Like 524, 561, 6G0 arid 724 and 733, you see that all of the key concepts in
email were being publicly discussed and implemented prior to Ayyadurai writing his email program
in 1976,
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One of the authors of those last two RFCs (724 and 733) is David Crocker, and he's not pleased
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with Ayyadurai trying to rewrite him out of the history of email -- and especially not with
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Ayyadurai getting a ton of cash for doing so. For what it's worth, Crocker and Ayyadurai have
tangled before -- when Ayyadurai took some comments from Crocker so out of context to be
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borderline fraudulent (Ayyadurai took two separate sentences, that were separated by pages in a
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report Crocker wrote, totally out of context to falsely imply that Crocker said that no one was
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working on email in 1977), As you can imagine, Crocker is not pleased with the Latest windfall for
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Ayyadurai.
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Dove Crocker, who helped write several foundational standards documents about
messaging over the internet, told Gizmodo that Ayyadurai's settlement with Gawker
Media represents a victory for a version of the history of email's development that
isn't supported by evidence. "I grew up being taught that the truth is always a
sufficient defense against cfaims of defamation, " Crocker saia upon bearing ahout
the settlement. "Given the extensive documentation about the history of email, I'm
sony to find that that the adage no longer holds true. "
Gizmodo also spoke to one of his co-authors, John Vittal, who first implemented features Like
"reply" and 'forward," and he also found the whole thing baffling,
John Vittal, one of Crocker's co-authors, seconded his frustration. Vittal is best
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fsnt supported by evidence. "I grew up being taught that the truth is always a
sufficient defense against claims of defamation," Crocker said upon heating about
the settlement. "Given the extensive documentation about the history of email, I'm
sorry to find tlwt that the adage no longer holds true. "
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Gizmodo also spoke to one of his co-authors, John Vittai . who first implemented features like
"reply" and "forward," and he also found the whole thing baffling,
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John Vittai, one of Crocker's co-authors, seconded his frustration. Vittai is best
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this, but earlier this year, he actually got onto CB5 with comedian Mo Rocca on his "Henry Ford's
Innovation Nation" in which Rocca falls hook, line and sinker for the bogus claims by Ayyadurai.
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CBS, of course, happens to also be the home of ^Iter O'Brien, whose origin story is quite similar
to Ayyadurai's. Either way, as long as Ayyadurai continues to falsely hold himself out as the
inventor of email, when he is not, people should continue to call out that his claims are simply
false.
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Ayyadurai writing his email program in 1978.
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