The Football Association Premier League Limited et al v. Youtube, Inc. et al

Filing 265

DECLARATION of Andrew H. Schapiro, Group 8, Exhibit 238 - 259 in Opposition re: 158 MOTION for Partial Summary Judgment dismissing with prejudice Defendants' First Defense asserted in Defendants' Answer to the Second Amended Class Action Complaint... Document filed by Google, Inc., Youtube, Inc., Youtube, LLC. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 260 - 272, # 2 Exhibit 273 - 285, # 3 Exhibit 286 - 288, # 4 Exhibit 289 - 296, # 5 Exhibit 297 - 310, # 6 Exhibit 311, Part 1, # 7 Exhibit Part 2, # 8 Exhibit 312 - 314)(Schapiro, Andrew)

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SE TH A. Ri ght . So thi s a nal ysi s is ver y

di ffe ren t f rom th e o the r a nal ysi s t ha t w e di d. Th is is jus t l ook ing at t op 10, 000

an d j ust fi ndi ng pat ter ns in her e, ri ght . Th ere 's no alg ori thm be ing ru n he re, no thi ng. I t i s j ust pi cki ng ou t

so me -- if you lo oke d a t 1 0,0 00 se arc h re sul ts for lo ng eno ugh , w hat ar e som e o f th e k ey thi ngs th at you mi ght be a ble to pi ck out , j ust in tui tiv ely . So al l t his wa s t ryi ng to say is , h ey, gi ven th e f act th at we ha ve lot of pe opl e, for ex amp le, lo oki ng for re gio nal co nte nt, I hig hli ght ed som e In dia n c ele bri tie s b ein g s ear che d h ere t o st ate th e f act th at, yo u k now , s ea rch qu eri es can in dic ate fo r y ou whe re th at pe rso n i s s ear chi ng for an d, you k now , wh eth er the y a re fin din g t he rig ht ki nd of co nte nt. Of co urs e, the re' s s ome ca vea ts, as I men tio ned he re, of co urs e, th ere ar e lo ts of ind ivi dua ls out sid e o f I ndi a tha t ma ybe ce rta inl y s ear chi ng for th e c on ten t

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SE TH as we ll. A s I in dic ate d, the p eop le are

se arc hin g i n F ren ch and Br iti sh and Ja pan ese an d I ndi an con ten t a nd zon e. Fr esh nes s i s d efi nit ely im por tan t a s wel l, as I hig hli ght ed her e. An d z one .

So ju st to sum mar ize it , m y in ten t w as to jus t p ick ou t a c oup le of ke y t hin gs, hi ghl igh t t hem an d t hen a llo w pe opl e t o d raw co ncl usi ons fr om it on th eir ow n. Q. An d s o l ook ing at th is an aly sis

in Ex hib it 5 a nd the an aly sis th at we lo oke d a t a mi nut e a go in Exh ibi t 4, al tho ugh di ffe ren t m eth ods ar e a ppl ied t o bo th, bo th ana lys es ind ica te tha t m us ic -th at ent ert ain men t, inc lud ing mu sic an d TV sh ows , i s a po pul ar sea rch te rm, o r po pul ar sea rch te rms , c orr ect ? A. Ye s. It do es ind ica te de man d.

It do esn 't ind ica te wha t p eop le are wa tch ing . Nei the r o f t hes e m eth ods h ave a B ut the y c er tai nly do

wa y t o f ind th at. su gge st dem and . Q.

Th ey sug ges t w hat th e u se rs are

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SE TH lo oki ng for , c orr ect ? A. Q. Co rre ct. An d i f y ou loo k a t t he fi rst

pa ge of the at tac hme nt to Exh ibi t 5, whe re it li sts al l - - b egi ns lis tin g a ll of th e qu eri es. J ust so I und ers tan d h ow th is

wo rks , a nd may be we won 't pic k t he fi rst on e, but ma ybe th e t hir d o ne, , the nu mbe r t hat co mes af ter t he co mma , t he re pre sen t? A. I bel iev e t hat and wer e , , w hat do es tha t

al l s yno nym s r ela ted to lo oke d f or, yo u k now , ro ugh ly. Q. A. Q. A. I thi nk it mig ht be -So rry , .

An d i t a ppe are d - So th e o rde rin g h ere is t he top

qu ery an d a ll syn ony ms and so on . Q. We ca n p ut tha t t o t he si de. TH E W ITN ESS : Can I tak e a ve ry

qu ick ba thr oom br eak ? MR . W ILK ENS : Yes .

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SE TH TH E V IDE OGR APH ER: T he tim e i s

10 :46 a. m., an d w e a re goi ng off t he re cor d. (W her eup on, th ere is a rec ess in th e p roc eed ing s.) TH E V IDE OGR APH ER: T he tim e i s

10 :56 a. m., an d w e a re bac k o n the re cor d. Q. Hi , M r. Set h. If we ca n g o b ack to Ex hib it 4 fo r a mi nut e. A. Q. Ye s. Ju st loo kin g a t t he gro up of

nu mbe rs at the to p, may be the fi rs t l ine , wh ich sa ys " an d t hen it ha s a nu mbe r. Ca n y ou exp lai n w hat th e A. Q. A. It 's a p erc ent age po int . It 's a p erc ent age . Th e is, fr om wha t I c an -t hen it h as a ,"

re col lec t a nd tha t I th ink th is e- mai l su gge sts as we ll, is ju st a c las si fic ati on nu mbe r t hat re fle cts th at fir st lin e.

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SE TH Q. Is th at the sa me thi ng th at we

we re jus t t alk ing ab out a mom ent a go wit h Ex hib it 8, whe re you wo uld re mov e fro m t he bu cke t o f U GC con ten t t he ins tan ces o f a , fo r e xam ple , t he Sha kir a v ide o y ou me nti one d, tha t w ere no t o wne d b y the co pyr igh t o wne r W arn er? A. Co rre ct. S o w hat th is is

as sum ing at th is poi nt is tha t - - wel l, le t m e j ust ba ck up. Do yo u h ave an un der sta ndi ng of wh at the CY C p roc ess is ? Q. If yo u c oul d e xpl ain it , tha t

wo uld be gr eat . A. It 's cal led th e C lai m Y ou r

Co nte nt and es sen tia lly is gi vin g a cc ess to th e p rof ess ion al con ten t o wne rs, a s we ll as any pa rtn er, to be ab le to id ent ify th at con ten t a nd say , " Thi s be lon gs to me, an d s o a ll vie w cou nts of th is vid eo sho uld al so bel ong to m e. An d

al l m one tiz ati on, if th ey all ow it, a lso be lon gs to me. " So tha t's ca lle d the

cl aim ing pr oce ss, so to sp eak .

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SE TH Ye s. So wh at we wer e s ayi ng

wi th the se con d b ull et poi nt is th at if we ad jus t t he UGC po ol for ow n o rig in al co nte nt, as fa r a s Y ouT ube co uld k now , th en do thi ngs be com e d iff ere nt. (S eth Ex hib it 10, do cum ent pr odu ced by Go ogl e, Bat es num ber GO O00 1-0 241 497 6 t o 2 414 980 , m ark ed fo r i den tif ica tio n, as of thi s da te. ) MR . W ILK ENS : Ex hib it 10. Thi s i s S eth

A nd it' s a do cum ent

pr odu ced by Go ogl e, beg inn ing wi th th e Ba tes nu mbe r G OO0 01- 024 149 76, en din g in 24 149 80. A. Q. A. Q. Ok ay. Do yo u r eco gni ze thi s d oc ume nt? So mew hat , y es. An d a t l eas t t he las t in tim e

e- mai l, the ve ry top of th e f irs t pag e i t is fr om you to Jo rda n H off ner , J ul ia Pek er an d P ala sh Nan dy, co rre ct? A. Q. Uh -hu m. An d i t's ti tle d, The Fi rs t P eek

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SE TH At th e N umb ers . Wh o i s J ord an Hof fne r? A. He is th e d ire cto r o f bus ine ss

de vel opm ent at Yo uTu be. Q. An d w hy wer e y ou sen din g a f irs t

pe ek at the nu mbe rs to him ? A. Mo st lik ely be cau se we ma y h ave

ha d a ha llw ay con ver sat ion ab out so met hin g, and it wa s i n r esp ons e to tha t. I don 't rem emb er for su re. Q. If yo u l ook do wn at so rt of the

mi ddl e o f t he fir st pag e, whe re it 's an e- mai l f rom Ju lia Pe ker th at sta rts w ith , "H ey, Sh ash i, "an d e nds wi th "Le t me kno w if yo u h ave qu est ion s." Do yo u s ee tha t? A. Q. Ye ah. An d s he say s t hat sh e's

at tac hin g s ome nu mbe rs and th at she 's an aly zin g a ll vie ws for th e w eek o f Ma y 6 th -A. Q. Ri ght . -- do yo u s ee tha t? Is th ere an y p art icu lar re aso n

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SE TH wh y t hat we ek was se lec ted ? A. on e w eek . Q. Th e a nal ysi s w as of all v iew s No . Jus t a ra ndo m s el ect ion of

fo r t hat we ek? A. Q. A. On e w eek , y es. Th at wou ld -An d t hen on e w eek pe rio d was

ch ose n, as tha t w as wha t w as pos si ble to do in a fai rly sh ort pe rio d o f tim e r un. Ru nni ng any thi ng mor e t han th at wou ld ha ve ta ken ma ny day s. Q. Is it yo ur und ers tan din g tha t

re fer s t o t he wee k o f M ay 6, 20 07? A. Q. Ri ght , y es. An d t he num ber s t hat sh e say s

sh e's at tac hin g, tho se are th e n umb er s th at app ear on th e l ast pa ge of th is ex hib it; is th at rig ht? A. Ye s. An d I do n't un de rst and

ev ery thi ng abo ut thi s - MR . F RAN KS: pe ndi ng. Q. T her e's no qu est ion

Y ou ans wer ed the qu est ion .

I gue ss sor t o f f lip pin g bac k

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SE TH be twe en the fi rst pa ge and th e l as t p age , sh e s ays sh e " has to tal vi ews us ed fo r pr emi um par tne rs onl y a nd vie ws for co nte nt tha t w as tak en dow n f or co pyr igh t is sue s ( som e i nte res tin g n umb ers th ere ). " Do yo u u nde rst and wh y s he in clu ded nu mbe rs for to tal vi ews , v ie ws fo r p rem ium pa rtn ers on ly and vi ews f or co nte nt tha t w as tak en dow n f or co pyr igh t is sue s? MR . W ILL EN: fo r s pec ula tio n. A. Q. No , I ha ve no ide a. No w, if you lo ok at th e l ast O bje cti on. C all s

pa ge, yo u s ee on the le ft whe re it sa ys, "A ll pre miu m a nd cop yri ght ." Is th at ref err ing to th e t hre e ca teg ori es tha t J uli a P eke r m ent ion ed in th e e -ma il tha t w e w ere ju st rev ie win g? A. Ye ah. T his is wh at I don 't

un der sta nd. MR . F RAN KS: Y ou wan t t o l ook a t

th is one , s o y ou can se e t wo at th e sa me tim e?

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SE TH TH E W ITN ESS : Q. No, th is is goo d.

Yo u m ay not wa nt to wr ite on th e You ju st wan t t o see th e

ac tua l e xhi bit . co mma s? A. Ye ah.

MR . F RAN KS: mi ne. th ere . Q.

Y ou can do it on

Y ou can wr ite th e c omm as on

I had th e s ame de sir e. TH E W ITN ESS : MR . W ILL EN: Tha nk you . S orr y. Wh at was

th e q ues tio n? MR . W ILK ENS : Yea h, whe the r - - I

as ked wh eth er the wo rds on th e l ef t, le ftm ost co lum n o f t he las t p age , "al l pr emi um and co pyr igh ted ," cor res pon d to th e c ate gor ies th at are in Ju li a Pe ker 's e-m ail on th e f irs t p age t hat we ju st tal ked ab out . MR . W ILL EN: fo r s pec ula tio n. A. Fr om wha t I ca n u nde rst an d o f O bje cti on. C all s

th e d ocu men t, it bre aks do wn int o thr ee bu cke ts of all vi ews of al l c ont en t f or

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SE TH th at one -we ek per iod , v iew s f or con te nt th at cam e f rom a lis t o f p art ner s und er th e l ine it em Pre miu m, and th en a lis t of -- or vi ews of co nte nt tha t wer e re mov ed fro m Y ouT ube , f or a n umb er of re aso ns. Q. An d J uli a s ays in th e fir st pag e

th is is for co pyr igh t i ssu es, co rre ct ? MR . W ILL EN: O bje cti on. T he

do cum ent sp eak s f or its elf . Q. A. Q. Yo u c an ans wer th e q ues ti on. Th at' s w hat sh e s ays , y es . No w, jus t m ovi ng ove r a f ew

co lum ns to the Co unt Vi deo s c olu mn. A. Q. Uh -hu m, yes . Is it yo ur und ers tan din g tha t

th at rep res ent s t he vid eos th at wer e -th e n umb er of vid eos th at wer e v ie wed wi th th e v iew s t hat ar e i n t he, I gu ess th e fi rst co lum n o f n umb ers ? MR . W ILL EN: fo rm. A. It re fer s t o t he act ual n umb er O bje cti on to the

of in div idu al vid eos .

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SE TH Q. bu cke t? A. Th at gen era ted th e n umb er of In th at buc ket -- in e ach

vi ews in th e f irs t c olu mn. Q. Ok ay. A nd the n, if yo u l ook on e

co lum n f urt her to th e A ver age Vi ews P er Vi deo , a m I co rre ct tha t t hat re pr ese nts th e v iew s - - t he num ber of vi ews i n t he fi rst co lum n d ivi ded by th e n umb er of vi deo s i n t he Cou nt Vid eos co lum n? A. Q. Th at' s c orr ect . So th at the av era ge num be r o f

vi ews fo r a ll vid eos wa s a ppr oxi mat el y vi ews ? A. Q. Co rre ct. An d t hat th e a ver age nu mb er of ?

vi ews fo r a ll pre miu m v ide os was A. Q. Co rre ct.

An d t hat th e a ver age nu mb er of

vi ews pe r v ide o f or the co pyr igh ted b uck et is A. Q. , cor rec t? Th at is cor rec t. An d y ou -- and tu rni ng ba ck to

th e f irs t p age , y ou for war ded th is to

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SE TH Jo rda n H off ner . Do yo u r eca ll get tin g a ny kin d of re act ion fr om him ? A. No . I d on' t e ven re ca ll the

co nve rsa tio n t hat pr omp ted me to se nd it to hi m i n t he fir st pla ce. Q. si de. Le t m e a sk you wh eth er you -wh en you re cei ved th at ana lys is fro m Jul ia Pe ker , d id you di scu ss it wit h h er or wi th Pa las h N and y? A. Q. I' m n ot sur e. Do yo u r eca ll whe the r y ou ha d Ok ay. W e c an put th at to on e

an y q ues tio ns abo ut the nu mbe rs on th e la st pag e a nd whe the r y ou ask ed, f oll owe d up on an y s uch qu est ion s t hat yo u mig ht ha ve had wi th her ? MR . W ILL EN: fo rm. A. Q. O bje cti on to the

I t's a com pou nd que sti on. No , I do n't re cal l. If yo u h ad que sti ons ab ou t t he

an aly sis or th e m eth odo log y, wou ld yo u ha ve ask ed the m b efo re you fo rwa rde d the

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SE TH nu mbe rs on to Mr. Ho ffn er? MR . F RAN KS: fo r s pec ula tio n. hy pot het ica l. A. I thi nk, as I sai d i n tha t O bje cti on. In com ple te C all s

e- mai l, tha t t his is ve ry ear ly an aly sis , an d t hat 's it. I 'm gue ssi ng fro m the

co nte nt of the e- mai l, I w oul d g ue ss tha t wa s t oo ear ly to sta rt eve n t hin ki ng abo ut an y d eta ils at th at poi nt. MR . W ILK ENS : Ex hib it 11. Thi s i s S eth

I t's a doc ume nt pro du ced

by Go ogl e w ith th e B ate s n umb er GO O00 1-0 324 118 9 t hro ugh 32 411 92. (S eth Ex hib it 11, do cum ent pr odu ced by Go ogl e, Bat es num ber s GO O00 1-0 324 118 9 t hro ugh 32 411 92, ma rke d f or ide nti fic ati on, as of th is dat e.) A. Q. Ye ah. An d d o y ou rec ogn ize th is

do cum ent , M r. Set h? A. Q. Uh -hu m. It 's an, at le ast th e top , t he

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SE TH fi rst , l ast -in -ti me e-m ail , t he top e -ma il on th e f irs t p age , i s f rom Ju lia P eke r t o Sh ash i S eth , w ith a cop y t o J ord an Ho ffn er an d P ala sh Nan dy. A nd in tha t fir st

e- mai l J uli a P eke r s ays th at she 's se ndi ng th e s ame sp rea dsh eet wi th num ber s f or fa vor ite s, com men ts and su bsc rip tio ns. Do yo u s ee tha t? A. Q. Uh -hu m. An d t hen , i f y ou tur n to the

la st -- the la st two pa ges , y ou se e a t t he to p o f t he Bat es num ber ed pag e b eg inn ing 32 411 91, th e t op the re and ex ten din g ove r to th e n ext pa ge, 32 411 92, th e s am e nu mbe rs tha t w e w ere ju st dis cus sin g in Se th Exh ibi t 1 0, cor rec t? A. Q. Co rre ct. An d t hen be low th at Jul ia Pe ker

ha s a dde d a ddi tio nal nu mbe rs, wh ich s he me nti ons on th e f irs t p age , r igh t? A. Q. Co rre ct. An d I be lie ve the se are t he

si gna ls tha t w e w ere ta lki ng abo ut ea rli er fo r f avo rit es, UG C c ont ent -- fa vor it es

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SE TH co mme nts ; i s t hat co rre ct? A. Q. Co rre ct. An d i f y ou loo k o n t he -- we ll,

th e c olu mns of da ta her e u nde r t he fa vor ite s a nal ysi s, for ex amp le, un der Pr emi um Con ten t t her e's a cou nt for t he, I gu ess th e t ota l n umb er of vid eos t hat we re -- is tha t t he tot al num ber o f v ide os th at wer e f avo rit ed in the Pr emi um Co nte nt bu cke t? MR . W ILL EN: fo r s pec ula tio n. A. I bel iev e t he way th e dat a i s O bje cti on. C all s

la id out is th at the fi rst nu mbe r fal ls un der th e c oun t o f u ser s, tha t n um ber of us ers . The se con d n umb er com es fr om the So th ose we re th e a ctu al

co unt of vi deo s.

nu mbe r o f v ide os tha t, in thi s a na lys is, we re use d. An d t hen th e t hir d n umb er, th e num ber , i s t he one th at re fle cts th e n umb er of tim es tha t s ome bod y fa vor ite d t hat vi deo -Q. An d - -

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SE TH A. Q. -- th ose So al l vi deo s. v ide os wer e

fa vor ite d i n a n a ggr ega te num ber of tim es, co rre ct? A. Q. Th at' s c orr ect . Th e n ext nu mbe r, it say s Ave rag e I t hin k t hat m ean s

Fa ve Per Vi deo .

av era ge fav ori te for vi deo ? A. Q. Th at' s c orr ect . Is th e n umb er of vid eos d ivi ded

by th e n umb er of -- the nu mbe r of fa vor ite s d ivi ded by th e n umb er of vi deo s, co rre ct? A. Q. Th at' s c orr ect . So it 's tim es fav or ite pe r

vi deo , c orr ect ? A. Q. Co rre ct. An d t hat 's for th e P rem iu m

Co nte nt buc ket , r igh t? A. Q. Th at is cor rec t. An d t hen , i f y ou go to th e n ext

bu cke t, the UG C - - w hat 's cal led h ere th e UG C C ont ent bu cke t, the av era ge num be r o f fa vor ite s p er vid eo is ; is th at

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SE TH co rre ct? A. Q. Th at is cor rec t. An d j ust go ing fu rth er do wn to

th e C omm ent s A nal ysi s, the av era ge co mme nts pe r v ide o f or pre miu m c ont en t i s , an d i t's -- an d t he ave rag e -MR . W ILK ENS : th at. Q. If yo u g o d own to th e Com men ts Sor ry, st rik e

An aly sis fo r t he pre miu m c ont ent bu ck et th e a ver age co mme nts pe r v ide o i s co rre ct? A. Q. Th at is cor rec t. An d t hen fo r t he UGC c ont ent ,

bu cke t, the av era ge com men ts per vi de o i s , cor rec t? A. Q. Co rre ct. An d f or -- the ve ry bo tto m h ere ,

th e S ubs cri pti on Ana lys is, ca n y ou ex pla in wh at a s ubs cri pti on is? A. Wh en a u ser su bsc rib es to a

vi deo , t hey ar e s ubs cri bin g b oth to t he cr eat or of the vi deo or th e u ser w ho up loa ded th at vid eo as wel l a s t he vi deo

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SE TH it sel f. An d b ase d o n t hat su bsc ri pti on,

th ey get no tif ica tio ns of wha t i s ha ppe nin g w ith th at use r. So ev ery ti me a n ew vid eo is up loa ded by th at use r, you wo uld g et a no tif ica tio n, for ex amp le, an e- mai l, th at sa ys, th is use r h as upl oad ed a n ew vi deo . Or if it 's the vi deo , y ou may g et no tif ica tio ns of, he y, the re' s a ne w co mme nt, et ce ter a. So it 's a p ret ty imp ort ant el eme nt as wel l, in ter ms of sig na ls of ho w u ser s i nte rac t w ith th e v ide o. Q. An d I gu ess un der nea th he re

th ere 's a P rem ium Ch ann els he adi ng or su bhe adi ng. Do yo u k now if th ere wa s a ny an aly sis do ne on any ot her ca teg ori es or bu cke ts, li ke UGC ch ann els ? MR . W ILL EN: fo rm. A. I bel iev e t his e- mai l i s -- I O bje cti on to the

be lie ve in thi s e -ma il Jul ia has l eft ou t th e w ord UG C C oun t S ubs cri ber s, but t hat 's

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SE TH wh at it' s m ean t t o b e, is tha t the fi rst li ne ite m u nde r t he Sub scr ipt ion An al ysi s is me ant to be fo r p rem ium ch ann el s, and th e s eco nd one is su ppo sed to be f or UGC ch ann els . And sh e m ay hav e l eft t hat ou t,

bu t t hat 's wha t i t's me ant to do , is to co mpa re tho se two , m uch li ke how s he' s do ne it for th e o the r c ate gor ies . Q. An d d o y ou kno w w het her a ny

fu rth er ana lys is of, al ong th e l ine s of wh at' s a n E xhi bit 10 an d E xhi bit 1 1, was do ne aft er Jul ia Pek er sen t S eth Ex hib it 11? MR . W ILL EN: fo rm. A. Q. I don 't rec all . Do yo u r eca ll rep ort ing t hes e O bje cti on to the

nu mbe rs or -- to any one at Yo uTu be , o the r th an Jor dan Ho ffn er? A. re cal l. MR . W ILL EN: I s t his a goo d t im e No . Unf ort una tel y, I d o not

fo r l unc h, or do you wa nt to -MR . W ILK ENS : Act ual ly, it is a

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SE TH go od tim e f or lun ch. A t l eas t I d on' t

ha ve a l ot aft erw ard , s o I do n't k now ho w l ong yo u w ant to ta ke, bu t. MR . W ILL EN: MR . W ILK ENS : M ayb e h alf ho ur. And th e l unc h

is -- it 's not he re yet . MR . F RAN KS: C an we go off th e I ca n u se a

re cor d f or a s eco nd. br eak , a nyw ay.

TH E V IDE OGR APH ER:

T he tim e i s

12 :21 p. m., an d w e a re goi ng off t he re cor d. (L unc heo n r ece ss tak en at 12 :21 p. m.)

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SE TH AFTERNOON (T ime no ted : SHASHI SETH, SESSION 1:1 2 p .m. ) r esu med an d

te sti fie d a s f oll ows : EX AMI NAT ION BY (C ont 'd. ) MR . W ILK ENS : TH E V IDE OGR APH ER: T he tim e i s

1: 12 p.m ., and we ar e b ack on t he re cor d. MR . W ILK ENS : ex hib it. Mar k t he nex t

T his is nu mbe r 1 2.

(S eth Ex hib it 12, do cum ent pr odu ced by Go ogl e, Bat es num ber s GO O00 1-0 943 950 th rou gh 594 395 9, ma rke d f or ide nti fic ati on, as of th is dat e.) MR . W ILK ENS : Thi s i s a do cum ent

pr odu ced by Go ogl e i n t he lit iga tio n, be gin nin g w ith th e B ate s n umb er GO O00 1-0 943 950 , e ndi ng 594 395 9. Q. Mr . S eth ? A. Q. Ye s. Is th is a c ove r e -ma il wi th a Do yo u r eco gni ze thi s d oc ume nt,

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SE TH pr ese nta tio n t hat yo u p rep are d? A. Q. Ye s. An d d oes th is pre sen tat ion

co nta in or ref er to som e o f t he da ta tha t we we re tal kin g a bou t i n S eth Ex hi bit s 1 0 an d 1 1? A. Ri ght . Som e o f t hat , how eve r, I

th ink th e m eth odo log y f or how th is wa s do ne was ve ry dif fer ent th an the me tho dol ogi es ref err ed to in the pr io r ex hib its . Q. An d c an you ex pla in how t he

me tho dol ogi es dif fer ed? A. So in th is par tic ula r v er sio n, I

be lie ve wha t w e d id was lo oke d a t the se arc h t erm s f or a p art icu lar da y. A nd

th en, us ing th e a lgo rit hm tha t I d esc rib ed to yo u e arl ier ab out cl ass ify ing se ar ch te rms , b rok e i t d own in to var iou s ca teg ori es and us ed tha t a s t he ba sel ine fo r f igu rin g o ut whe re tho se buc ket s or ca teg ori es fel l i n p rem ium , a s I r efe r t o it he re, wh ere it sa ys "UG C c ont en t." It 's bas ed on a l ot of

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SE TH hy pot hes es, bu t t hat 's wha t w e h ad to go by . Q. An d w hen yo u w ere ju st ta lki ng a

mi nut e a go abo ut seg men tin g t he vie ws in to di ffe ren t b uck ets or ty pes of co nte nt th at' s o n p age 3, on pa ge 3 - MR . W ILK ENS : Q. Str ike th at.

Th e m eth odo log y y ou wer e jus t

re fer rin g t o a mo men t a go tha t y ou ap pli ed in th is ana lys is to -- whe re an al gor ith m wa s a ppl ied to de vel op the se dif fer en t br eak dow ns of con ten t, is tha t r efl ec ted on pa ge 3 o f E xhi bit 12 ? A. Q. Th at is cor rec t. An d t hen th at sam e a nal ys is is

us ed on pag e 4 to in dic ate wh at pe rce nt of co nte nt tha t's be ing wa tch ed is pre mi um co nte nt; is th at cor rec t? A. Wh at I'm re fer rin g t o h er e i n

bu lle t p oin ts 1 a nd 2 i s o ne of th e ex hib its th at we tal ked ab out wh ere J uli et Pe ker ha d s umm ari zed it in th ose t hre e li nes . The pe rce nt poi nts ar e d er ive d b y

th at, th e p oin t 1 an d p oin t 2 .

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SE TH Q. it sa ys, " n ," do yo u s ee tha t? A. Q. I see th at. Th e t wo bul let s b elo w t ho se, th e An d i f y ou tur n t o p ag e 5 , w her e

nu mbe rs in tho se bul let s, are th ose a lso de riv ed fro m t he ana lys is tha t w e wer e lo oki ng at bef ore fr om Jul ia Pek er? A. Q. Th at is cor rec t. So th ese ar e r esu lts th at yo u - MR . W ILK ENS : Q. Str ike th at.

So th ere ar e p ort ion s o f Jul ia

Pe ker 's ana lys is tha t y ou put in to th is pr ese nta tio n a nd the n p rov ide d t o t he in div idu als li ste d o n t he fro nt of Se th Ex hib it 12, co rre ct? A. Q. Th at is cor rec t. An d d id you al so dis cus s the

co nte nts of th is pre sen tat ion wi th th em? A. Q. Ye s. An d d id the y h ave qu est io ns

ab out th e m eth odo log y?

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SE TH MR . W ILL EN: fo rm. A. No t s o m uch qu est ion s a bo ut the O bje cti on to the

me tho dol ogy , b ut que sti ons ab out th e co nte nts an d h ow sho uld th ey use t his da ta to so lve pa rti cul ar pro ble ms tha t t he y we re loo kin g a t. Q. An d d o y ou kno w h ow, i f a t a ll,

th is dat a w as use d b y Y ouT ube af te r y our pr ese nta tio n? A. No . Pos t m y g ivi ng th em a

su mma ry and an swe rin g a ny que sti ons t hat th ey had , I ha d n o f urt her in vol ve men t i n ho w t his da ta was ut ili zed by va ri ous te ams . Q. Do yo u r eca ll wha t a ny of th eir

qu est ion s w ere ? MR . W ILL EN: A. O bje cti on to for m.

I don 't rem emb er an ent ir e l ist

of qu est ion s. Th e o ne thi ng tha t d oes st and ou t w as thi s c onv ers ati on tha t I b rou ght up ar oun d t he fac t t hat th ese ar e som e wa ys or, yo u k now , o ne way of l ook ing at

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SE TH th e d ata th at dri ves th at dem and f or, yo u kn ow, di ffe ren t k ind s o f c ont ent . Bu t

wh at it doe s n ot get at is , i s tha t h ow pe opl e a re con sum ing co nte nt, ri ght ? An d I di d s pen d s ome ti me di ffe ren tia tin g b etw een th ose tw o, bec au se it is an im por tan t t hin g t o u nde rs tan d th at dem and an d s upp ly may be ve ry di ffe ren t. An d y ou mig ht be abl e to do

so me thi ngs to ch ang e t he dem and /su pp ly si tua tio ns, bu t m ayb e i nhe ren tly th at is wh at the us ers do , j ust ho w t hey b eha ve. I thi nk it is als o r ele van t, I th ink pe opl e w ere lo oki ng at it as so lvi ng di ffe ren t p rob lem s, and I thi nk I had to br ing pe opl e b ack to th e p oin t t ha t t his wa s j ust on e a nal ysi s t hat wa s m et at , y ou kn ow, ho w t he doc ume nt is tit led , whi ch it is me ant to ju st giv e a gu ida nce o n w hat ki nd of par tne rsh ips sh oul d p eop le pu rsu e. I did no t w ant pe opl e t o w alk aw ay tha t I wa s d raw ing co ncl usi ons f rom th is dat a a ny mor e t han wh at is st ate d he re, wh ich is sp eci fic all y t hat th er e a re

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SE TH ce rta in are as whe re the pa rtn ers hip t eam co uld fo cus on an d d riv e m ore pa rtn ers hip s, whi ch the y h ad alr ead y un der tak en by thi s t ime fr ame , t hey al rea dy had si gni fic ant pa rtn ers hip s w it h pe opl e l ike Un ive rsa l M usi c, War ner M usi c an d s o o n. Bu t t his wa s a f urt her

va lid ati on, as we ll as a g uid anc e, of wh ere th ey sho uld fo cus th eir ef for ts . Q. An d b ase d o n t he ana lys is , w her e

di d t his an aly sis , f rom yo ur un der sta ndi ng, su gge st tha t t hey sh oul d be fo cus ing th eir pa rtn ers hip ef for ts? MR . W ILL EN: O bje cti on --

ob jec tio n t o t he for m. TH E W ITN ESS : A. Sor ry.

As I bel iev e i n t he la st pag e o f

th e p res ent ati on, I bri ng it hom e wit h th ree ma jor bu lle t p oin ts. F irs t one

cl ear ly say s t her e i s i mme nse va lue i n co nti nui ng the pa rtn ers hip s. Th e

su bbu lle t o n t hat is re fer rin g t o mus ic re pre sen tin g t he hig hes t v alu e a nd al so th e l owe st han gin g f rui t, mea nin g w e

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SE TH al rea dy hav e p art ner shi ps, an d t her e's a fe w o the rs tha t c an be clo se. Th e s eco nd bul let re fer s t o s ome us er exp eri enc e, thi ngs th at we cou ld fi x on th e p lat for m, whi ch I d on' t o wn or , y ou kn ow, ha ve no con tro l o ver . An d f ina lly , t hat th ere is -th ere ar e r eve nue op por tun iti es wit h pa rtn ers th at we sho uld ge t o ur ar ms ar oun d. Q. An d t he fir st bul let , t he to p o f

th at pag e, whe n y ou say -- wh en it sa ys "P art ner shi ps in the se are as, " a re yo u re fer rin g t o p art ner shi ps in the ar ea s o f pr emi um con ten t? MR . W ILL EN: A. O bje cti on to for m.

Wh at I'm re fer rin g t o a re th ese On pag e 3 I hi ghl igh t a

sp eci fic ar eas .

co upl e o f a rea s l ike mu sic vi deo s, mo vie s, ce leb rit ies , T V p rog ram s, et cet era , co mic s a nd ani mae . Q. Th ank yo u. Do yo u k now wh eth er any one at Yo uTu be per for med an y a nal yse s t hat l ook ed Tha t w oul d m ak e s ens e.

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SE TH at si mil ar que sti ons th at you we re lo oki ng at , i n t erm s o f w het her to pr ior it ize pr emi um con ten t p art ner shi ps or foc us on UG C t ype us er par tne rsh ips ? MR . W ILL EN: O bje cti on.

Mi sch ara cte riz es tes tim ony an d t he do cum ent . TH E W ITN ESS : MR . W ILL EN: Q. A. Q. Sho uld I ans wer ? Y ou can an swe r.

Yo u c an ans wer . No , I do n't . Do yo u k now if th ere w ere an y

at tem pts to fu rth er ana lyz e t he kin ds of da ta tha t w ere in Se th Exh ibi ts 10 an d 1 1? A. Q. as ide . MR . W ILK ENS : on e m ark ed Set h 1 3. (S eth Ex hib it 13, do cum ent pr odu ced by Go ogl e, Bat es num ber GO O00 1-0 025 523 9 t hro ugh 00 255 242 , ma rke d f or ide nti fic ati on, as of th is dat e.) Can I hav e t his No , I do n't . Ok ay. Y ou can pu t t hi s o ne

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SE TH A. Ok ay. MR . W ILK ENS : Thi s i s a do cum ent

pr odu ced by Go ogl e i n t he lit iga tio n wi th the Ba tes nu mbe r G OO 001 -00 255 23 9 th rou gh 002 552 42. Q. An d d o y ou rec ogn ize th is

do cum ent , M r. Set h? A. Q. Ye s. I thi nk you se e y ou as a

re cip ien t l ist ed in the "t o" lin e the re fr om Jen ny Ste fan ott i? A. Q. Uh -hu m. Do yo u k now wh o - - w ho is Je nny

St efa not ti? A. Je nny St efa not ti use d t o wor k i n

th e i nte rna tio nal -- in th e Y ouT ube in ter nat ion al tea m. ex act ti tle or ro le. Q. An d t he sub jec t l ine of t his I don 't rem emb er he r

e- mai l s ays , " Mee tin g n ote s Y ouT ube A PLA mo net iza tio n." Do yo u k now wh at APL A r efe rs to th ere ? A. As ia Pac ifi c L ati n A mer ica .

DAVID FELDMAN WORLDWIDE, INC. 450 7th Avenue - Ste 2803, New York, NY 10123 [phone]

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK __________________________________x VIACOM INTERNATIONAL, INC., COMEDY PARTNERS, COUNTRY MUSIC TELEVISION, INC., PARAMOUNT PICTURES CORPORATION, and BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION, LLC, Plaintiffs, vs. YOUTUBE, INC., YOUTUBE, LLC, and GOOGLE, INC., Defendants. __________________________________x THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION PREMIER LEAGUE LIMITED, BOURNE CO., et al., on behalf of themselves and all others similarly situated, Plaintiffs, vs. YOUTUBE, INC., YOUTUBE, LLC, and GOOGLE, INC., Defendants. __________________________________x VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF MICHAEL WOLF NEW YORK, NEW YORK FRIDAY, APRIL 17, 2009 JOB NO.: 16687 NO. 07-CV-3582 NO. 07-CV-2103

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VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF MICHAEL WOLF, held at the offices of CAHILL GORDON & REINDEL, LLP, 80 Pine Street, New York, New York, pursuant to subpoena, before JENNIFER OCAMPO-GUZMAN, a Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public of the State of New York.

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A P P E A R A N C E S: FOR THE PLAINTIFFS VIACOM INTERNATIONAL, INC.: JENNER & BLOCK, LLP BY: SUSAN J. KOHLMANN, ESQ. 919 Third Avenue, 37th Floor New York, New York 10022-3908 [phone] [e-mail] FOR THE DEFENDANTS YOUTUBE, INC., YOUTUBE, LLC and GOOGLE, INC.: WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI, PC BY: BART E. VOLKMER, ESQ. 650 Page Mill Road Palo Alto, California 94304-1050 650-565-3508 [e-mail]

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APPEARANCES (Continued): FOR THE DEPONENT: CAHILL GORDON & REINDEL, LLP BY: BY: ADAM ZUROFSKY, ESQ. CHRISTOPHER A. GORMAN, ESQ. 80 Pine Street New York, New York 10005-1702 [phone] [e-mail] [phone] [e-mail]

ALSO PRESENT: CARLOS KING, Videographer

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Wolf MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Objection. Misstates.

I never said that there was a

conflict between those two. Q. Okay. The previous question I

asked is, what were the disagreements that you had with Mr. Dauman? And the answer was

that there were two different viewpoints, that you were responsible for business decisions that were reflected in MTV Network's results, and Mr. Dauman was responsible for both business and overall financial stock price objectives, as well as legal issues, and I'm trying to figure out where the conflict between those two viewpoints was. MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: Objection to form. Objection to the

form, but you can answer if you can. A. I don't remember specifically those

agreements -- those disagreements, if there were any. Q. Was there a conflict in the way you

thought the MTVN business should be run and

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Wolf Mr. Dauman thought the MTVN business should be run? MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: A. No. Objection. Objection to form.

I think that as in any case,

the relationship between the head of a corporation and business unit, they're naturally gives and takes in terms of how those relationships exist. Q. Networks? A. 2007. Q. Was there a period where you were At the beginning of February of And when did you leave MTV

working at MTVN where you had already been told that you would, that your services were no longer required? MR. ZUROFSKY: foundation, form. A. I was not told that my services Objection,

would not be required. Q. A. Why did you leave MTV Networks? There had been a change in

management in the overall Viacom and I

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Wolf thought that it was a good moment for the new Viacom team to proceed with the business and for me to move on. Q. A. Q. A. Q. Did you resign? Yes. You were not asked to leave? No. What were the reasons that you had

for wanting to resign from MTV Networks? MR. ZUROFSKY: answered. MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: it again. A. There was a new team at Viacom and Objection. But you can answer Objection, asked and

I thought that that team should be able to pursue its own agenda and, therefore, I thought it was a good moment for me to move on. Q. And when you say "the new team,"

are you talking about Mr. Dauman and Mr. Dooley? A. Q. Yes. And their agenda was in conflict

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Wolf MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Objection to form.

It could be that we were discussing

those deal -- those terms or it could be that -- that those were the deal terms we were proposing. I really can't tell by this

memo and I can't remember when I wrote it. Q. Could it also be the case that

those deal terms that we just went over had not been discussed between the parties as of October 3, 2006? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Q. other? A. I'm not sure. Lots of information. Objection to form. Objection to form.

It's possible, yes. You're just not sure one way or the

Lots of things that go past what I was doing as the president of the company and I just can't remember what happened in each of these situations. Q. When Viacom and MTVN were

negotiating with YouTube in the summer and fall of 2006, was it aware of the presence of Viacom content on the YouTube website?

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Wolf MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Objection to form.

First of all, I don't know if I was

Viacom was negotiating with YouTube. in charge of MTV Networks.

I don't know if

Viacom, there was any other independent of MTV Networks' negotiation. Q. question. When MTVN was negotiating with YouTube in the summer and fall of 2006, was it aware of the presence of Viacom content on the YouTube website? MR. ZUROFSKY: A. other. Are you asking about this memo or just in general? Q. I'm not asking about the memo, just And this goes throughout the Objection to form. Okay. So I'll rephrase the

I don't recall one way or the

in general.

entire period of the negotiations between YouTube and Google and MTVN, at any time in those negotiations was MTVN aware of the presence of Viacom content on the YouTube website?

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Wolf MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection to form. Objection.

We were certainly aware that our

content was on YouTube. Q. And during the negotiations did

Viacom allow that content to stay up on YouTube? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection to form. Objection.

The decision would have been ours, It was going to be -- but MTV

not Viacom's.

Networks, to the best of my recollection, we allowed the content to be there. Q. there? MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Objection. And why did you allow it to be

I'd be only speculating today

because I can't remember specifically, but I would guess that, that we thought that we could do a deal with YouTube and that also at the same time we thought that having the content there was valuable in terms of helping the ratings of our shows. MR. VOLKMER: Let's go off the

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Wolf record. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is

1:44 p.m., and we're off the record. (A brief recess was taken.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is

1:50 p.m., and we're back on the record. BY MR. VOLKMER: Q. On Monday, October 9, 2006, Google

issued a press release announcing that it was acquiring YouTube. Do you remember having a

conversation with Eric Schmidt the preceding weekend in which you discussed Google's potential acquisition of YouTube? A. I don't remember the exact dates of

the things that you're describing to me, but I certainly remember having discussion with Eric Schmidt before, before the potential acquisition, before the acquisition of YouTube took place. Q. And what do you recall about that

conversation? A. To the best of my ability to

recall, I remember him telling me that they were considering acquiring YouTube, that I

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Wolf message on to Ms. Braddi? A. I did say so, I said I agree, push

the button. Q. Did Mr. Cahan's message to Ms.

Braddi reflect your own viewpoint? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. Objection.

I think this was just another step

in the negotiation, back and forth between our two companies. Q. And do you think that this e-mail

message reflected your viewpoint on how the negotiation should be conducted or do you think this is more reflective of Viacom's senior management? MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: A. time. Objection. Objection.

I really don't remember at the He had

Adam Cahan sent this to me.

thought this through.

To be clear of, I was

running the rest of a $7 billion business and I really don't remember where all, you know, whose desire this was on either side. Q. Okay. In the last sentence of the

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Wolf first paragraph, Mr. Cahan writes, "Our senior team has expressed grave concern with allowing copyright infringement at YouTube to persist any longer." Is the senior team being referenced there Mr. Dauman and Mr. Dooley? MR. ZUROFSKY: me, objection. A. be, yes. Q. In the next paragraph, Mr. Cahan Based on my recollection, it would Objection. Excuse

writes, "Starting tomorrow the lawsuit will be announced along with removal of all clips at YouTube." letters. Do you know if Viacom was preparing to file an infringement lawsuit against YouTube and Google around this time frame, November 27, 2006? MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Q. Objection. Objection. And "all" is in capital

Yes, they were preparing. Mr. Cahan also makes reference to

100K plus clips; do you see that reference?

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Wolf A. Q. A. ahead. Q. Do you know if Viacom or MTVN had I'm trying it find it. It's in the second sentence. Yes, I see this. Sorry. Yes, go

identified 100,000 clips on the YouTube service containing its content around this time frame? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. Objection.

I don't know the exact number, but

I know that we had a firm that was engaged that was, that was looking at the number of clips that were there. Q. A. Q. BayTSP? A. Q. No. Did you have any conversations with And that firm was BayTSP? Yes. Did you have any interactions with

any employee of BayTSP? A. Q. Not that I recall. Do you know when BayTSP was engaged

by Viacom or MTVN?

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Wolf largely, it was both an MTV Networks and a corporate effort it was hard to distinguish between what, what was going wrong in the deal, what was going right. Once again, I

continued to be optimistic that we would get a deal done, that these kinds of deals are very complex and that there's a lot of different parties. In the same way, by the

way, that Google had a lot of different objectives. Q. But you thought that Google was

negotiating in good faith, didn't you? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. Objection.

I think that -- that this was an There were times when

intense negotiation.

Google changed the terms of what it was offering, especially as different people at Google, the deal was passed to different people at Google, and at the same time, MTV Networks and really Viacom's expectations and demands for a deal changed also. So these

are the kinds of things that happen in the normal course of a deal.

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Wolf Q. So you would say that, from a

generally accepted business perspective, Google was negotiating in good faith? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. Objection.

I would say that both parties were

negotiating in good faith. Q. A. Q. Including Google? Yes. Ms. McGrath says, "This is exactly

how we lost MySpace." Do you know what that's referring to? MR. ZUROFSKY: answered. A. That Viacom did not complete the Objection, asked and

acquisitions of MySpace or IGN. Q. And she's comparing those failed

acquisitions to the failure to get a deal done with Google? MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Objection. Objection.

That's what -- that appears what's

happening and she's saying in this e-mail.

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Wolf MR. VOLKMER: Exhibit 19. (Exhibit Wolf-19, E-mails dated 12/15/06, Bates Nos. VIA02073145 and VIA02073146, marked for identification, this date.) Q. This is a document produced by The last in time I would like to mark

Viacom in this litigation.

e-mail, a message from Michael Wolf to Eric Schmidt dated December 15th and Mr. Schmidt's response is the next in time e-mail and then Mr. Wolf forwards the message to Mr. Cahan. A. Yes. MR. ZUROFSKY: Actually, the last The first in

in time is the forward. time you said. MR. VOLKMER: MR. ZUROFSKY: time. MR. VOLKMER: Q. A. memo -Q.

The first in time. You said the last in

Misspoke.

And if you could -Could I just have -- this is a long

Sure, yeah, take a look.

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Wolf A. Q. Yes. And is that 20 percent figure also

based on a back-of-the-envelope calculation as opposed to a scientific study? MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. By

I don't recall at that point.

then we were looking at the number of clips. We were looking at the number of views for top clips and -- and it did appear that MTV Networks' content was -- was a large percentage or was a significant percentage of YouTube consumption. Q. And had MTVN or Viacom undertaken a

scientific study to make that determination? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. Objection.

I'm not sure how scientific either

ratings on the internet or television, that kind of analysis is. I do know one way or

the other, that we had engaged our research people to examine and analyze the YouTube, the consumption of YouTube clips, that it's reflected here or not, I don't remember. Q. And in this message, you say that

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Wolf MTVN had undertaken a very quick analysis and it was back of the envelope. Does that lead

to the conclusion that this was more along the lines of a nonscientific study? MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Objection. Objection. I

It could be, it could not be.

just don't remember at the time. Q. But you wrote this message to

Mr. Schmidt saying that this was a back-of-the-envelope calculation, right? A. Q. Yes, I did. And that was an accurate statement

as far as you were concerned, correct? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Q. Yes. If you can turn to the second to Objection. Objection.

last paragraph, the one that starts, "As you can imagine," and the second sentence is, "As importantly we're drawing increasingly uncomfortable with the time passing and feel that we cannot allow our content to be at YouTube in its current form."

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Wolf A. Q. Yes. Are you telling Mr. Schmidt there

that to date Viacom and MTVN had been allowing its content to be on YouTube? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. Objection.

While we were issuing takedown

notices against some of the content, there was other content which we were allowing to continue to be on YouTube. MR. VOLKMER: change the tape. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is Okay. We need to

3:33, and this ends tape number 2 in the videotaped deposition of Michael Wolf. (A brief recess was taken.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is

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Wolf for identification, this date.) Q. This is an e-mail exchange that

Viacom produced in this litigation between Michael Wolf and Adam Cahan on December 19, 2006, and in the last in time e-mail Mr. Cahan writes, "I think when we issue the takedown we will hear from them." Did you take this to mean that Mr. Cahan suspected that when Viacom issued a mass takedown to YouTube that Google would come back to the negotiating table? MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Q. Yes. And was that part of the Objection.

negotiating strategy? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Q. Yes. And what were the reasons that MTVN Objection. Objection.

employed that strategy of issuing a massive takedown to YouTube in order to get Google to come back to the negotiating table? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: Objection. Objection.

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Wolf and -MS. KOHLMANN: I'm going to just

caution you not to disclose any attorney-client privileged information. THE WITNESS: MR. ZUROFSKY: Okay. You said that that

lawyer was acting on your behalf of MTV Networks, that is an attorney-client relationship with them. A. Q. Okay. Then --

Setting aside any communications

you had with MTV or Viacom lawyers, do you have any independent recollection of Viacom or MTVN accumulating clips to send to YouTube in one massive takedown notice instead of sending notices as they became aware of the content? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. Objection.

In general we identified the clips

and then had a sense for how many clips would be available so that we could decide when and if we sent a takedown notice, what would be the number of clips and in what shows.

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Wolf Q. Do you recall there being certain

criteria that MTVN applied in making determinations about whether to send takedown notices or clips? MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. There

I don't recall specifically.

may have been some. Q.

I just don't remember.

Do you remember there being any

criteria that were based on length of the clip in determining whether or not MTVN should issue takedown notices? MS. KOHLMANN: MR. ZUROFSKY: A. Q. Objection. Objection.

I don't recall. What about particular networks or

franchises, do you remember whether a particular clip was associated with a network or franchise being a factor in whether Viacom would issue a takedown notice? MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection.

And, again, I'm really -- it's very I

difficult to remember these things.

believe that there were clips that we did not want to take down, for example, clips from

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Wolf John Stewart and Steven Colbert, and that there were other clips that we felt we should take down. I just don't remember what were

the types of clips that we took down and not. Q. And why do you think that Viacom

wanted the John Stewart and Steven Colbert clips to stay up on the YouTube site? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Q. Thank you. Why do you think that MTVN wanted the John Stewart and Steven Colbert clips to stay up on the YouTube website? MR. ZUROFSKY: MS. KOHLMANN: A. Objection. Objection. Objection. Objection.

This was an MTV Networks' decision. Okay. I'll restate the question.

And so I'm really giving you my

speculation today. Q. A. Sure. But we were concerned that both

John Stewart and Steven Colbert believed that their presence on YouTube was important for their ratings as well as for their

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