Anwar et al v. Fairfield Greenwich Limited et al

Filing 787

DECLARATION of Savvas A. Foukas in Opposition re: #775 FIRST MOTION to Certify Class.. Document filed by PricewaterhouseCoopers Accountants Netherlands N.V., Pricewaterhousecoopers L.L.P.. (Attachments: #1 Exhibit A, #2 Exhibit B, #3 Exhibit C, #4 Exhibit D, #5 Exhibit E, #6 Exhibit F, #7 Exhibit G, #8 Exhibit H, #9 Exhibit I, #10 Exhibit J, #11 Exhibit K, #12 Exhibit L, #13 Exhibit M, #14 Exhibit N, #15 Exhibit O, #16 Exhibit P, #17 Exhibit Q, #18 Certificate of Service)(Maguire, William)

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Exhibit K Page 1 1 2 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 3 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK ------------------------------------x 4 PASHA S. ANWAR, et al., 5 Plaintiffs, Civil Action No. 6 7 vs. 09-CV-0118(VM) FAIRFIELD GREENWICH LIMITED, et al., 8 Defendants. ------------------------------------x 9 10 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF ABDUL RAHMAN SAIF 11 New York, New York 12 September 20, 2011 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Reported by: KATHY S. KLEPFER, RMR, RPR, CRR, CLR 24 25 Job No: 42087 TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Page 190 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Saif A. Uh-huh. Q. Reads, "The Fund allocates the predominant portion of its assets to a strategy described as 'split-strike conversion' (see 'Investment Policies')." Do you recall reading this sentence? A. Vaguely, yes. Q. And if you can turn now to 15749, I'm looking at the paragraph, the first full paragraph under "Escrow Bank and Custodian" and specifically the second sentence of that paragraph, which reads, "Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities ('BLM' and, together with other qualified entities with which sub-custodial arrangements may be made, the 'Sub-Custodians,' and each, singularly, a 'Sub-Custodian') serve as sub-custodians for certain assets of the Fund." Do you recall reading that? A. Yes. Q. And what was your understanding of what that meant? A. That the fund had a custodian, which was Citco, and sub-custodians as well. TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Page 191 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 192 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Saif have been sub-custodians involved as well. Q. So are you saying that when the strategy was -- withdrawn. You said that you assumed that there might have been sub-custodians involved; is that right? A. Based on this statement, yes. Q. So were you making an assumption or were you -- withdrawn. So you didn't know whether sub-custodians were involved when the strategy was being activated? A. We didn't know when the strategy was being activated or not. This statement stated that there might be sub-custodians. Q. The statement -- can you point to where it says that there might be sub-custodians? A. If you go to the part that says "Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities ('BLM' and, together with other qualified entities, which sub-custodian arrangements may be made..."), from that point. Q. I'm sorry, continue. A. Yes, based on this, the main custodian TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 A. Saif Q. And what was your understanding of what a sub-custodian was? A. A sub-custodian, based on my understanding, is someone who would hold the security on behalf of the fund, in the end reporting to the main custodian. Q. And so, according to this, was it your understanding that Bernard L. Madoff was a sub-custodian for certain assets of the fund? A. And other qualified entities, yes. Q. So it was your understanding that not only did Bernard -- did Bernie Madoff implement the split-strike strategy, but that he was also a sub-custodian of the funds? A. At the point of implementation, I assume that either Bernard Madoff or other qualified sub-custodians would be involved. Q. You said "at the point of implementation"? A. Yes. Q. Can you explain what you mean by that? A. When the strategy was being activated, basically the long equities and the long put and the short call, I would assume that there might TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Page 193 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Saif and sub-custodians were being appointed. Q. Did you believe based on this that there was any point in time when Bernard Madoff would not be serving as the sub-custodian for certain assets of Sentry? A. Yes. Q. So, just so I'm clear, so you did believe that at some points, at some moment, Bernie Madoff would not be the sub-custodian? A. Yes. Q. And can you explain when did you believe those moments would be? A. When the strategy was in Treasuries, I assumed the custody would go to Citco. Q. And did you -- did you perform any -any due diligence to verify that assumption, that at some point the -- at some point Bernard Madoff would not be the sub-custodian? A. I did not have access to that information. Q. Did you speak with anyone about that? A. No. Q. Did you talk to Fairfield about that? A. No. TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 49 (Pages 190 to 193) Page 194 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Saif Q. Did you speak to any other non-SICO third parties about that? A. No. Q. And I'm going to direct your attention now to that paragraph right underneath, the second full paragraph under "Escrow Banking Custodian," the third sentence that begins, "currently." It says, "Currently, BLM has approximately 95 percent of the Fund's assets under custody." Do you recall reading this sentence? A. I must have read it a long time back, yes. Q. And what was your understanding of what this meant? A. That the implementation is being activated or the strategy is being implemented. Q. When it says that BLM has -withdrawn. When it says here that BLM has approximately 95 percent of the fund's assets under custody, what did you -- what did you understand that to mean? A. That the fund manager is implementing the strategy. TSG Reporting - Worldwide Page 195 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 877-702-9580 A. Saif Q. And when you read that Bernard Madoff had 95 percent of the fund's assets under custody -- withdrawn. You understand that this sentence talks about custody, not implementation, correct? A. To implement the strategy, my understanding was Bernie Madoff would be involved in that. Q. But you do see here where it says that 95 percent of the fund's assets would be under Bernie Madoff's custody, do you see that? A. Yes, I see that. Q. As far as you understand, is there a difference between someone being a custodian of funds and somebody implementing a strategy to invest those funds? A. Yes. Q. If you could turn back to the first page, 15724. It's the top e-mail page, you testified that you did read this July -- this PPM; is that correct? A. Yes, I did. Q. And according to this e-mail, if you look at the top, it was attached to this e-mail. TSG Reporting - Worldwide Page 196 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Saif The e-mail was sent on March 24, 2004. Do you see that? A. Yes. Q. Did you read this PPM on or about the date that this e-mail was sent? A. I don't recall exact dates. Q. I'm not looking for an exact date now. Can you say approximately, based on this e-mail, when you read this PPM? A. I can't pinpoint exactly when I read the PPM. Q. Can you generally say when you read this PPM, again, not looking for a pinpoint? A. No, it would be hard for me. Q. Did you read this PPM prior to the 2004 investment? A. I assume, yes. Q. Ms. Rahman, I'm now going to read you a list of names, and I just want you to listen and tell me if you recognize any of these names. Is that okay? A. Sure. Q. Okay. The first name is Walter M. Noel? TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 877-702-9580 Page 197 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Saif A. Sorry. Could you repeat the question, please? Q. Sure. I'm going to read a list of names. There's not going to be any question attached. All I'm asking you is when you hear each name, just tell me if you have -- if you've ever -- if you recognize that name. Do you understand? A. Yes. Q. Okay. Walter M. Noel, Jr.? A. I don't -- I don't recall it. Q. And if you don't know, you can just say "I don't know" or "no," that's fine. A. Go ahead. Q. Just so we're sure it's clear, so Walter M. Noel, Jr.? A. I don't recall the name. Q. Jeffrey Tucker? A. I don't recall the name. Q. Andres Piedrahita? A. No. Q. Amit Vijayvergiya? A. I don't recall the name. Q. Gregory Bowes, B-O-W-E-S? TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 50 (Pages 194 to 197) Page 198 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Saif A. I don't recall the name. Q. Cornelis Boele -- Boele, excuse me, B-O-E-L-E? A. I don't recall the name. Q. David V. Horn? A. I don't recall the name. Q. Robert A. Blum, B-L-U-M? A. I don't recall the name. Q. Lourdes Barreneche? THE WITNESS: Sorry. Could you give me a second, please. Can I take break? MR. SABIN: You want to take a break? THE WITNESS: Yes, I feel a bit dizzy. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 3:47. We're going off the record. (Recess.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 4:15. We're back on the record. MR. SABIN: The witness passed out and we're therefore adjourning the deposition for now. MR. DIVINE: It will remain open. Everybody reserves their rights with respect to the deposition, and everybody I think in TSG Reporting - Worldwide Page 199 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 ------------------------------KATHY S. KLEPFER, RPR, RMR, CRR, CLR 23 24 25 TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Subscribed and sworn to before me this day of 2011. _______________________ 877-702-9580 CERTIFICATE STATE OF NEW YORK ) ) : ss COUNTY OF NEW YORK ) I, Kathy S. Klepfer, a Registered Merit Reporter and Notary Public within and for the State of New York, do hereby certify: That ABDUL RAHMAN SAIF, the witness whose deposition is herein before set forth, was duly sworn by me and that such deposition is a true record of the testimony given by such witness. I further certify that I am not related to any of the parties to this action by blood or marriage and that I am in no way interested in the outcome of this matter. In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand this 26th day of September, 2011. ____________________ ABDUL RAHMAN SAIF 23 24 25 Page 200 2 3 4 A. Saif the room, including plaintiffs' counsel, all agree that that is the appropriate course. MR. GLASSER: Yes. MS. PIERCE: Yes. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 4:16, this is the end of the deposition, September 20, 2011. oOo TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Page 201 INDEX TESTIMONY OF A. RAHMAN: PAGE Examination by Mr. Sabin 7 SAIF EXHIBITS: PAGE Exhibit 1, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 39 0001683 through 1730 Exhibit 2, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 39 0001731 through 1781 Exhibit 3, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 39 0001782 through 1835 Exhibit 4, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 81 0000628 through 640 Exhibit 5, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 89 0000610 through 621 Exhibit 6, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 91 0000607 through 609 Exhibit 7, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 95 0002021 through 2024 Exhibit 8, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 101 0005216 through 5220 Exhibit 9, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 107 0008685 through 8687 Exhibit 10, a document bearing Bates Nos. SICO 113 0008054 through 8057 TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 51 (Pages 198 to 201) Page 204 1 2 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 3 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK ------------------------------------x 4 PASHA S. ANWAR, et al., 5 Plaintiffs, Civil Action No. 6 7 vs. 09-CV-0118(VM) FAIRFIELD GREENWICH LIMITED, et al., 8 Defendants. ------------------------------------x 9 10 CONTINUED VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION 11 OF ABDUL RAHMAN SAIF 12 New York, New York 13 September 21, 2011 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Reported by: 24 KATHY S. KLEPFER, RMR, RPR, CRR, CLR 25 JOB NO. 42088 TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Page 257 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF PricewaterhouseCoopers? A. Probably, yes. Q. Do you recall any specifics about those interactions? A. I don't recall specifics, but PricewaterhouseCoopers are, as I said, one of the Big Four audit firms and we must have interacted one way or another. Q. Okay. So let's take a look at Exhibit 21, which was one of the new exhibits you were shown this morning. And this is the Director's Report and financial statements for the year ending December 31, 2007 and 2006 for Fairfield Sentry. You testified earlier today that SICO would have received this report either from Fairfield or Citco; is that correct? A. Yes. Q. And would that be true for all of the audited financial statements for Fairfield Sentry that Citco received -- or, that SICO received? A. Could you re- -- could you restate the question, please? Page 258 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF Q. For all of the audited financial statements of Fairfield Sentry that SICO received -A. Uh-huh. Q. -- is it true that SICO would have received those statements from either Fairfield or Citco? A. Yes. Q. So SICO never would have received, never received any of these statements directly from PricewaterhouseCoopers; is that correct? A. No. Yes. Q. Do you know how often SICO received an audited financial statement for Fairfield Sentry? A. There are annual reports that we received and probably other reports, but I don't know exactly how frequent were they. Q. Would it be fair to say that you received the annual reports every year? A. I'm not sure if we received them every year. Q. Did SICO receive audited financial statements for other funds in which SICO was Page 259 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF invested? A. Yes. Q. Did you personally review the audited financial statements for Fairfield Sentry? A. Yes. Q. Which ones do you recall reviewing? A. I'm not sure of the dates, but if I have a copy of them, I will go through the financials. Q. How did you personally receive the audited financial statements that you reviewed? A. I don't recall exactly was it a soft or hard copy, but if I have the audited, I would definitely go through them. Q. Do you recall whether you reviewed them? I know you said you don't recall if you received them via hard copy or soft copy, but do you recall whether your practice was to review them in hard copy or just electronically? A. We would probably have them printed out if they were soft copies. Q. Did you discuss your review of the audited financial statements for Fairfield Sentry with anyone at SICO? Page 260 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 TSG Reporting - Worldwide A. SAIF A. No. Q. Did you discuss the audited financial statements for Fairfield Sentry with anyone at Fairfield? A. No. Q. Did you contact anyone at PricewaterhouseCoopers to discuss the audited financial statements for Fairfield Sentry? A. No. Q. So, after you would personally review the financial statements, what was your practice with -- with what the copy that you reviewed? Would you keep them? Would you file them? A. Yes, we tried. Q. And do you believe that that would have been in a hard copy file or would you have kept them in like an electronic folder on your computer? A. If they were hard copies, we will file them. If they were soft copies, they would be in the e-mails. Q. After your practice of reviewing and then filing the statements that you reviewed, would you take any other action with respect to 877-702-9580 15 Page 261 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF the audited financial statements? A. No. Q. So I'm going to move now into some questions about PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands). I may say "PwC (Netherlands)" or "PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands)." Do you understand they will be the same firm? A. Yes. Q. Prior to this litigation, have you ever heard of PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands)? A. To me, all represent PricewaterhouseCoopers. Q. So you have not heard specifically of PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands); is that correct? A. As I said, it all represents PricewaterhouseCoopers in the end. Q. I understand your answer. I just want to know if you have ever heard of the Netherlands office of PricewaterhouseCoopers. MR. GLASSER: Objection to form. A. I don't recall it. Q. In connection with SICO's investment Page 262 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF in Fairfield Sentry in 2004, did you ever contact PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands) to discuss that investment? A. No. Q. Is that true whether we're talking about PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands) or any PricewaterhouseCoopers office? A. Yes. Q. Would your answer be the same with respect to SICO's investment in 2005? A. In terms of contacting PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands)? Q. Correct. A. Yes. Q. And is the same also true with respect to the investment in 2008? A. Yes. Q. So is it fair to say that at no time in connection with the investment in Fairfield -- with SICO's investment in Fairfield Sentry, did you have any contact with PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands)? A. Yes. Q. So, just to make sure we're clear, you Page 263 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF didn't speak to anyone at PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands) concerning SICO's investment in Fairfield Sentry at any time? A. No. Q. You had no communications with anyone at PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands), oral or in writing, concerning SICO's investment in Fairfield Sentry at any time? MR. GLASSER: Objection to form. A. I don't recall that. Q. Do you recall -- do you recall ever receiving any materials prepared by PricewaterhouseCoopers (Netherlands) other than the financial statements we talked about in connection with the -- with SICO's investment in Fairfield Sentry? A. I don't recall that. Q. In any of your communications with Fairfield Greenwich Group concerning SICO's investment in Fairfield Sentry, did you ask Fairfield about who the auditors of Fairfield Sentry were? A. It was stated in the documents that we received. Page 264 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 TSG Reporting - Worldwide A. SAIF Q. Did you ever inquire about contacting the auditors of Fairfield Sentry within your conversations with Fairfield Greenwich Group? A. No. MS. PIERCE: Just give me one second, please. (Pause.) MS. PIERCE: I think that's all the questions I have for now. I might have some follow-up after the next attorney, but I appreciate your time. THE WITNESS: Thank you. EXAMINATION BY MR. TRESSLER: Q. Good morning, Mr. Saif. A. Good morning. Q. My name is David Tressler. I'm with the law firm of Kirkland & Ellis in Chicago, Illinois, and I represent PricewaterhouseCoopers (Canada), one of the PricewaterhouseCoopers defendants in this case. You are aware that there are separate PricewaterhouseCoopers defendants in this case, right? 877-702-9580 16 Page 265 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF A. I became aware of that, but to me all of you represent PricewaterhouseCoopers. Q. Do you know which PricewaterhouseCoopers firm audited Fairfield Sentry's financial statements for which years? A. No. Q. Mr. Saif, you have Exhibit 21 in front of you, I believe? A. Yes. Q. First one. If you could turn to Bates number page 170. A. Yes. Q. What do you understand this, this page to be, Mr. Saif? A. This is the audit report that comes from PricewaterhouseCoopers. Q. And who is the audit report addressed to? A. Directors and shareholders of Fairfield Sentry. Q. And in the upper right-hand corner, you notice that it has a letterhead? A. Yes. Q. And this is from Page 266 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF PricewaterhouseCoopers, LLP Chartered Accountants, correct? A. Yes. Q. Based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada? A. Yes. Q. Is this one of the financial statements that you reviewed in connection with the subsequent investments in 2008 that SICO made in Fairfield Sentry? A. I'm not sure of when we received this audited report, but if it was on record, we would have skimmed through it, yes. Q. And do you understand that the financial statements are the responsibility of the company's management? A. Could you rephrase that? Q. In the middle of the -- of the letter -A. Uh-huh. Q. -- in front of you, there's a line one, two, three, four, five, six lines down from the top. (Document review.) Q. In the course of your review of these Page 267 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF financial statements, if and when you reviewed them, would you have reviewed this letter? A. Yes. Q. And is that a statement that you would have understood to mean that the financial statements are the responsibility of the company's management? A. Preparing the financial statements is the responsibility of the company. The auditors will audit the accuracy or up to the degree of the sample they receive in terms of documents and account-related financials. Q. And you testified earlier that you received these financial statements from either Fairfield or from Citco? A. Yes. Q. But not from PricewaterhouseCoopers, correct? A. Yes. Q. Mr. Saif, if you have the exhibits in front of you, I would like to refer to Exhibit 8 and Exhibit 10. If you could take a minute and pull those out. MR. GLASSER: 8 and? Page 268 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 TSG Reporting - Worldwide A. SAIF MR. TRESSLER: 8 and 10. If we need, we can go off the record for a minute and get those. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 9:30. We're going off the record. (Pause in the proceedings.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 9:33. Back on the record. BY MR. TRESSLER: Q. Mr. Saif, I just passed you copies of what was -- what were marked as Exhibits 9 and 10 yesterday and you reviewed with counsel yesterday. A. Yes. Q. If you -- if you pull out Exhibit 9. A. Yes. Q. Just to refresh, you recall having received this e-mail or having sent the first e-mail and having received the e-mail from Mr. Mallis on September 3? A. My e-mail was the last in the chain, so the first e-mail was Nada Jamsheer, and then Mr. Mallis, and mine would be the last. Q. Correct. And this is a discussion 877-702-9580 17 Page 269 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF over e-mail regarding SICO's consideration of an additional investment in 2008 in Fairfield Sentry? A. Yes. Q. Correct? A. Yes. Q. And the message from Mr. Mallis was that Fairfield was still making money in 2008; is that your understanding? A. Yes. Q. And then as a result of SICO's understanding of Fairfield Sentry's consistent returns in 2008, SICO wanted to increase its exposure in 2008? MR. GLASSER: Objection to form. A. To be precise, I don't have the exact performance for 2008, but from what I recall is that they performed better than the market and that was one of the reasons why we decided to increase the allocation, and the justification for performing better than the market was that Fairfield Sentry was invested in Treasuries. Q. So you understood that Fairfield Sentry was performing better than the market in Page 270 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF 2008? A. Yes. Q. And that was the reason that you made your additional investment in 2008? A. Yes. Q. If you could just turn then to Exhibit 10 in front of you. A. Yes. Q. This is an e-mail to Mr. Mallis from Nada Jamsheer? A. Yes. Q. And again, yesterday you recalled having reviewed and received this e-mail? A. Yes. Q. And attached to the e-mail was a memo regarding SICO's proposal to increase its investment in Fairfield Sentry in 2008? A. Yes. Q. Right? The memo is dated September 7, 2008? A. Yes. Q. And on the last page of the memo, the page Bates-numbered SICO 8057 -A. Yes. Page 271 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF Q. -- there is information there provided by Nada Jamsheer of Investment & Treasury of SICO regarding Fairfield Sentry's financial performance during the calendar year 2008, correct? A. Yes. Q. And is this what you were referring to just a few minutes ago when you said that the basis for SICO's additional investment in 2008 was Fairfield Sentry's performance in 2008? A. Yes. Q. Where did SICO receive this information about Fairfield Sentry's financial performance in 2008? A. I wouldn't recall exactly the source, but I would assume it would be from fact sheets, Website of Fairfield. Q. And you understand that there was no audit of Fairfield Sentry's 2008 performance at the time that this memo was prepared? A. Yes. Q. Mr. Saif, I would like to turn specifically now to PwC (Canada). You spoke with counsel about PwC (Netherlands) and so I Page 272 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 TSG Reporting - Worldwide A. SAIF would like to ask a few questions specifically about PwC (Canada). A. Yes. Q. You haven't -- you didn't have any communications with PwC (Canada) directly -A. No. Q. -- did you? And you didn't have any meetings with anyone from PwC (Canada)? A. No. Q. You didn't have any written communications with anyone from PwC (Canada); is that right? MR. GLASSER: Objection to form. A. Could you be specific? Q. Sure. I'll rephrase it. Did you have any written communications back and forth with anyone from PwC (Canada)? MR. GLASSER: And just to clarify, do you mean did he send or is it -MR. TRESSLER: I'll rephrase and ask each question. BY MR. TRESSLER: 877-702-9580 18 Page 273 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF Q. Did you send any communication in writing to PwC (Canada)? A. No. Q. Did you receive from PwC (Canada) any written correspondence? A. No. Q. And before SICO made its investments in Fairfield Sentry, no one from SICO, to your knowledge, contacted PwC (Canada)? A. No. MR. TRESSLER: I don't believe I have any more questions, Mr. Saif. Thank you. THE WITNESS: Thank you. MR. GLASSER: And I would just -Anybody else? (No response.) MR. GLASSER: I would just like to ask a couple of follow-up questions. EXAMINATION BY MR. GLASSER: Q. Mr. Saif, earlier you had testified that one of the reasons that SICO understood Fairfield Sentry's performance to be consistent was the fact that at times it would be invested Page 274 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 A. SAIF in Treasuries; is that correct? A. Yes. Q. And what document supported your understanding that SICO -- that Fairfield Sentry was invested in Treasuries? A. We saw it in the financials, we saw the Treasuries that were being presented. MR. GLASSER: Thank you. No further questions. MR. DIVINE: We're done. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is 9:42. This is the end of deposition September 21, 2011. oOo ____________________ ABDUL RAHMAN SAIF Subscribed and sworn to before me this day of 2011. _______________________ 23 24 25 Page 275 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. SAIF INDEX TESTIMONY OF A. RAHMAN: Examination by Mr. Sabin Examination by Ms. Izquierdo Examination by Ms. Pierce Examination by Mr. Tressler PAGE 210 238 254 265 SAIF EXHIBITS: PAGE Exhibit 21, a document bearing Bates Nos. 222 SICO 0000162 through 190 Page 276 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 CERTIFICATE STATE OF NEW YORK ) : ss COUNTY OF NEW YORK) I, Kathy S. Klepfer, a Registered Merit Reporter and Notary Public within and for the State of New York, do hereby certify: That ABDUL RAHMAN SAIF, the witness whose deposition is herein before set forth, was duly sworn by me and that such deposition is a true record of the testimony given by such witness. I further certify that I am not related to any of the parties to this action by blood or marriage and that I am in no way interested in the outcome of this matter. In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand this 27th day of September, 2011. ------------------------------KATHY S. KLEPFER, RPR, RMR, CRR, CLR 24 25 TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 19

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