Oracle Corporation et al v. SAP AG et al

Filing 847

Declaration of Nitin Jindal in Support of 846 Memorandum in Opposition to Defendants' Motion to Exclude Expert Testimony of Paul K. Meyer filed byOracle International Corporation, Oracle USA Inc.. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A, # 2 Exhibit B, # 3 Exhibit C, # 4 Exhibit D, # 5 Exhibit E, # 6 Exhibit F, # 7 Exhibit G, # 8 Exhibit H, # 9 Exhibit I, # 10 Exhibit J, # 11 Exhibit K, # 12 Exhibit L, # 13 Exhibit M, # 14 Exhibit N, # 15 Exhibit O)(Related document(s) 846 ) (Pickett, Donn) (Filed on 9/9/2010)

Oracle Corporation et al v. SAP AG et al

Doc. 847 Att. 8

EXHIBIT H
Dockets.Justia.com

Page 324
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA OAKLAND DIVISION ORACLE CORPORATION, a Delaware corporation, ORACLE USA, INC., a Colorado corporation, and ORACLE INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION, a California corporation, ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) Plaintiffs, ) ) vs. ) No. 07-CV-1658 (PJH) ) SAP AG, a German ) corporation, SAP AMERICA, ) INC., a Delaware ) corporation, TOMORROWNOW, ) INC., a Texas corporation, ) and DOES 1-50, inclusive, ) ) Defendants. ) ________________________________)

VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF STEPHEN CLARKE _________________________________ VOLUME 2; PAGES 324 - 651 WEDNESDAY, JUNE 9, 2010

HIGHLY

CONFIDENTIAL - ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY

REPORTED BY:

HOLLY THUMAN, CSR No. 6834, RMR, CRR (1-427119)

STEPHEN CLARKE June 9, 2010 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL - ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
Page 381
10:31:07 10:31:08 10:31:09 10:31:10 10:31:12 10:31:15 10:31:16 10:31:17 10:31:19 10:31:20 10:31:23 10:31:23 10:31:25 10:31:28 10:31:33 10:31:34 10:31:35 10:31:41 10:31:43 10:31:49 10:31:55 10:32:00 10:32:05 10:32:08 10:32:13 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11

Page 383
10:33:26 10:33:34 10:33:36

MR PICKETT: Q It's not based on the benchmark of some other 50 percent royalty rate, is it? MR McDONELL: Vague and ambiguous Asked and answered THE WITNESS: No I've never seen a royalty rate at 50 percent of revenue in any other case

10:33:38 10:33:40 10:33:42 10:33:44 10:33:46 10:33:47 10:33:48 10:33:50 10:33:54 10:33:58 10:34:04 10:34:07 10:34:09 10:34:10 10:34:15 10:34:19 10:34:22 10:34:27 10:34:30 10:34:35 10:34:37 10:34:37

Page 382
10:32:13 10:32:15 10:32:22 10:32:23 10:32:26 10:32:28 10:32:46 10:32:47 10:32:49 10:32:51 10:32:54 10:32:56 10:32:57 10:33:01 10:33:05 10:33:07 10:33:10 10:33:12 10:33:16 10:33:19 10:33:20 10:33:21 10:33:22 10:33:23 10:33:24
10:34:38 10:34:40 10:34:41 10:34:43 10:34:44 10:34:45 10:34:46 10:34:48 10:34:50 10:34:52 10:34:54 10:34:57 10:35:01 10:35:02 10:35:04 10:35:06 10:35:10 10:35:14 10:35:16 10:35:17 10:35:18 10:35:23 10:35:26 10:35:26 10:35:30

Page 384

16 (Pages 381 to 384) Merrill Legal Solutions [phone]

STEPHEN CLARKE June 9, 2010 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL - ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
Page 433
12:09:03 12:09:06 12:09:11 12:09:13 12:09:19 12:09:20 12:09:22 12:09:24 12:09:29 12:09:31 12:09:34 12:09:39 12:09:43 12:09:49 12:09:56 12:09:58 12:10:00 12:10:03 12:10:04 12:10:05 12:10:11 12:10:13 12:10:14 12:10:15 12:10:16 12:11:19 12:11:20 12:11:32 12:11:33 12:11:35 12:11:41 12:11:43 12:11:48 12:11:51 12:11:56 12:11:58 12:11:59 12:12:02 12:12:06 12:12:17 12:12:19 12:12:21 12:12:29 12:12:33 12:12:37 12:12:43 12:12:45 12:12:52 12:12:55 12:12:59

Page 435

Page 434
12:10:23 12:10:26 12:10:30 12:10:32 12:10:38 12:10:39 12:10:40 12:10:42 12:10:44 12:10:48 12:10:50 12:10:52 12:10:53 12:10:55 12:10:56 12:10:59 12:11:00 12:11:01 12:11:03 12:11:05 12:11:08 12:11:09 12:11:12 12:11:13 12:11:17
12:13:01 12:13:12 12:13:14 12:13:15 12:13:20 12:13:42 12:13:46 12:13:48 12:13:49 12:13:51 12:13:52 12:13:56 12:13:57 12:14:01 12:14:05 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

Page 436

MR PICKETT: Q Is it your opinion that Oracle's agreements with partners and resellers are comparable to a hypothetical license with SAP? MR McDONELL: Vague and ambiguous Incomplete THE WITNESS: I don't think they're identical, but they have -- they have some value in terms of a data point They are a data point that shouldn't be ignored MR PICKETT: Q None of the agreements establish a market royalty rate Correct? MR McDONELL: Vague and ambiguous, overly broad THE WITNESS: I don't think they establish

.

12:14:08 12:14:12 12:14:14 12:14:18 12:14:25 12:14:31 12:14:33 12:14:35 12:14:36 12:14:38

29 (Pages 433 to 436) Merrill Legal Solutions [phone]

STEPHEN CLARKE June 9, 2010 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL - ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
Page 437
12:14:40 12:14:45 12:14:48 12:14:48 12:14:51 12:14:54 12:14:59 12:15:04 12:15:07 12:15:10 12:15:17 12:15:21 12:15:25 12:15:28 12:15:34 12:15:37 12:15:48 12:15:48 12:15:52 12:15:56 12:15:57 12:15:59 12:16:02 12:16:04 12:16:10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14

Page 439
12:17:08 12:17:13 12:17:16 12:17:22 12:17:26 12:17:31 12:17:34 12:17:37 12:17:40 12:17:42 12:17:45 12:17:51 12:17:56 12:17:58 12:18:00 12:18:03 12:18:04 12:18:05 12:18:07 12:18:10 12:18:11 12:18:13 12:18:18 12:18:25 12:18:28

a market royalty rate for the subject IP and the use that was made of it in this case. MR. PICKETT: Q. So what's their relevance if there's no established market rate? A. Well, these -- as I say, they're data points, and they have relevance to the extent that they form part of the base of the delta. If these customers -- I beg your pardon. If these companies are allowed by license with Oracle to provide support services for modest fees, and presumably doing everything legally, it would only be the delta that we referred to at length yesterday that would be at issue for the license in the TomorrowNow case.

Page 438
12:16:13 12:16:15 12:16:24 12:16:26 12:16:29 12:16:33 12:16:34 12:16:36 12:16:37 12:16:40 12:16:41 12:16:42 12:16:45 12:16:47 12:16:49 12:16:51 12:16:55 12:16:56 12:16:57 12:16:58 12:16:58 12:16:59 12:17:02 12:17:04 12:17:06
12:18:29 12:18:32 12:18:37 12:18:40 12:18:43 12:18:46 12:18:47 12:18:51 12:18:55 12:18:57 12:19:02 12:19:05 12:19:11 12:19:13 12:19:13 12:19:14 12:19:16 12:19:18

Page 440

,

12:19:19 12:19:21 12:19:22 12:19:26 12:19:28 12:19:32 12:19:36

30 (Pages 437 to 440) Merrill Legal Solutions [phone]