Eolas Technologies Incorporated v. Adobe Systems Incorporated et al

Filing 714

MOTION to Compel PRODUCTION OF SOURCE CODE FROM EBAY INC. AND AMAZON.COM, INC. by Eolas Technologies Incorporated. (Attachments: # 1 Declaration of Joshua Budwin, # 2 Exhibit 1, # 3 Exhibit 2, # 4 Exhibit 3, # 5 Exhibit 4, # 6 Exhibit 5, # 7 Exhibit 6, # 8 Exhibit 7, # 9 Exhibit 8, # 10 Exhibit 9, # 11 Exhibit 10, # 12 Exhibit 11, # 13 Exhibit 12, # 14 Exhibit 13, # 15 Exhibit 14, # 16 Exhibit 15, # 17 Exhibit 16, # 18 Exhibit 17, # 19 Exhibit 18, # 20 Exhibit 19, # 21 Exhibit 20, # 22 Exhibit 21, # 23 Exhibit 22, # 24 Exhibit 23, # 25 Exhibit 24, # 26 Exhibit 25, # 27 Exhibit 26, # 28 Exhibit 27, # 29 Exhibit 28, # 30 Exhibit 29, # 31 Text of Proposed Order)(McKool, Mike)

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Matt Rappaport
From:

Ankrum, Parker [[e-mail]]

Sent:

Friday, November 19, 2010 7:31 PM

To:

Matt Rappaport

Cc:

Eolas; Lumish, Douglas; Lee, Joseph; Hurt, Christian

Subject: Eolas Technologies, Inc. v. Adobe Systems Inc., et al.

Matt, 

I write in response to your November 2, 2010 letter regarding alleged deficiencies in Amazon's source 
code production.  At the outset, Amazon notes that it has already produced code for the accused 
features and functionalities identified in Eolas' March 5, 2010 infringement contentions months ago in 
May 2010.  Amazon also made available for inspection all available versions of the source code used to 
implement the accused functionalities of the accused products in September 2010.  This source code is 
now available for inspection in Weil's Redwood Shores office pursuant to the terms of the protective 
order.   

We do not agree that additional code needs to be produced at this time.  Contrary to your assertions, 
the complete source code (including code concerning features or functionality that are not accused of 
infringement) is not discoverable for each of the accused features and accused products.  The code that 
Amazon has already produced includes all of the code for implementing the accused features and so 
sufficiently sets forth the design and operation of the accused features.  Further, it is not apparent from 
Eolas' infringement contentions that Eolas has accused any Amazon Checkout functionality of infringing 
any of the asserted claims.  Accordingly, there is nothing in the asserted claims or the Eolas' 
infringement contentions that requires analysis of additional source code beyond what Amazon has 
already made available. Rather, whether Amazon's products meet the limitations of those claims or not 
can be determined by inspecting the code that has been produced and/or made available for inspection, 
operating the products, and evaluating their functions relative to the claim language.   

Further, we do not agree that Eolas is entitled to code beyond that Amazon has already made available 
for the accused functionalities or that Amazon should stipulate that code that has been produced is 
representative of any other versions of the code.  In fact, as we previously stated, Amazon has 
endeavored to produce all versions of the relevant portions of its code for the accused products.  This 
code can be located by date and is presently available for inspection.  If you believe that any particular 
versions of the code are missing, please identify them. 

Regards, 

Parker C. Ankrum 
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP 
201 Redwood Shores Parkway 
Redwood Shores, CA 94065 
Direct: (650) 802‐3215 

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Matt Rappaport
From:

Ankrum, Parker [[e-mail]]

Sent:

Friday, November 19, 2010 7:33 PM

To:

Matt Rappaport

Cc:

Eolas; Lumish, Douglas; Hurt, Christian; Lee, Joseph

Subject: Eolas Technologies, Inc. v. Adobe Systems Inc., et al.

Matt, 

I write in response to your November 2, 2010 letter regarding alleged deficiencies in eBay's source code 
production.  At the outset, eBay notes that it has already produced code for the accused features and 
functionalities identified in Eolas' March 5, 2010 infringement contentions months ago in May 2010.  
eBay also made available for inspection all available versions of the source code used to implement the 
accused functionalities of the accused products in September 2010.  This source code is now available 
for inspection in Weil's Redwood Shores office pursuant to the terms of the protective order.   

We do not agree that additional code needs to be produced at this time.  Contrary to your assertions, 
the complete source code (including code concerning features and functionality that are not accused of 
infringement) is not discoverable for each of the accused features and accused products.  The code that 
eBay has already produced includes all of the code for implementing the accused features and so 
sufficiently sets forth the design and operation of the accused features.  Accordingly, there is nothing in 
the asserted claims or the Eolas' infringement contentions that requires analysis of additional source 
code beyond what eBay has already made available. Rather, whether eBay's products meet the 
limitations of those claims or not can be determined by inspecting the code that has been produced 
and/or made available for inspection, operating the products, and evaluating their functions relative to 
the claim language.   

Further, we do not agree that Eolas is entitled to code beyond that eBay has already made available for 
the accused functionalities or that eBay should stipulate that code that has been produced is 
representative of any other versions of the code.  In fact, as we previously stated, eBay has endeavored 
to produce all versions of the relevant portions of its code for the accused products.  This code can be 
located by date and is presently available for inspection.  If you believe that any particular versions of 
the code are missing, please identify them. 

Regards, 

Parker C. Ankrum 
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP 
201 Redwood Shores Parkway 
Redwood Shores, CA 94065 
Direct: (650) 802‐3215 

The information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named
above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to
deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying
of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please
immediately notify us by email ([e-mail]), and destroy the original message. Thank you.

6/20/2011