Apple Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. et al

Filing 1384

Unredacted Exhibits to Arnold Declaration ISO Samsung's MSJ by Samsung Electronics America, Inc.(a New York corporation), Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Samsung Telecommunications America, LLC(a Delaware limited liability company) re 1256 Order on Administrative Motion to File Under Seal, (Dkt. Nos. 930, 945) (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 46 to Arnold, # 2 Exhibit 47 to Arnold, # 3 Exhibit 48 to Arnold, # 4 Exhibit 49 to Arnold, # 5 Exhibit 50 to Arnold, # 6 Exhibit 51 to Arnold, # 7 Exhibit 52 to Arnold, # 8 Exhibit 54 to Arnold, # 9 Exhibit 55 to Arnold, # 10 Exhibit 56 to Arnold, # 11 Exhibit 57 to Arnold, # 12 Exhibit 58 to Arnold, # 13 Exhibit 60 to Arnold, # 14 Exhibit 63 to Arnold, # 15 Exhibit 64 to Arnold, # 16 Exhibit 66 to Arnold, # 17 Exhibit 68 to Arnold, # 18 Exhibit 69 to Arnold, # 19 Exhibit 71 to Arnold, # 20 Exhibit 73 to Arnold, # 21 Exhibit 74 to Arnold, # 22 Exhibit 75 to Arnold, # 23 Exhibit 76 to Arnold, # 24 Exhibit 77 to Arnold, # 25 Exhibit 78 to Arnold, # 26 Exhibit 79 to Arnold, # 27 Exhibit 80 to Arnold, # 28 Exhibit 81 to Arnold, # 29 Exhibit 82 to Arnold)(Maroulis, Victoria) (Filed on 7/26/2012) Modified text on 7/27/2012 (dhm, COURT STAFF).

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EXHIBIT 50 Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only Page 1 1 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA 3 San Jose Division 4 Case No. 11-CV-846 LHK 5 _______________________________________ 6 APPLE, INCORPORATED, 7 8 9 10 Plaintiff, v. SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS COMPANIES, ) et al, ) Defendants. 15 H I G H L Y C O N F I D E N T I A L * ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY * 16 17 ) _______________________________________ ) 13 14 ) ) 11 12 ) DEPOSITION OF PETER BRESSLER 18 19 Washington, D.C. 20 April 24, 2012 21 22 23 24 Reported by: 25 Job No. 48797 Mary Ann Payonk, RDR-CRR TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only Page 151 1 to be confused between Apple devices and 02:15 2 Samsung devices? 02:15 3 A. I don't believe I've opined on 02:15 4 anything in -- about trade dress other than the 02:15 5 functionality of Apple's trade dress. 02:15 6 Q. So if I understand you correctly, the 02:15 7 only expert opinion you're offering in this 02:15 8 case as it pertains to trade dress is the lack 02:15 9 of functionality of Apple's trade dress. 02:15 10 11 A. I believe that's correct. I can check my report. 12 Q. 02:16 02:16 Please do, because I want to make 02:16 13 sure I have a full understanding of the scope 02:16 14 of your opinion on trade dress. 02:16 15 A. I believe I have limited my opinions 02:17 16 to the -- to the functionality of Apple's trade 02:17 17 dress -- 02:17 18 Q. Are you offering -- 02:17 19 A. -- in the iPhones and the iPads. 02:17 20 Q. I'm sorry. 02:18 21 I didn't mean to cut you off. 02:18 22 A. In the phones and the iPad. 02:18 23 Q. Are you offering an expert opinion in 02:18 24 this case about similarity or claimed 02:18 25 similarity between Apple's claimed trade dress 02:18 TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only Page 152 1 2 in any Samsung devices? I believe the 02:18 3 only opinion I have expressed in my report is 02:18 4 about the functionality or lack thereof of 02:18 5 Apple's trade dress. 02:18 6 A. Q. I do not believe so. 02:18 Then, focusing on your opinion as to 02:18 7 the lack of functionality of Apple's claimed 02:18 8 trade dress -- first let me ask you, Please 02:18 9 tell me what your understanding is of the 02:18 10 standard that you applied to determine whether 02:18 11 or not a trade dress or a trade dress element 02:18 12 was functional. 02:19 13 A. In short form, I believe I reviewed 02:20 14 whether the design yields a utilitarian 02:20 15 advantage, whether alternative designs were 02:20 16 available, whether advertising touted 02:20 17 utilitarian advantages of the design, whether 02:20 18 the particular design resulted from a 02:20 19 comparatively simple or inexpensive method of 02:20 20 manufacture. 02:20 21 embodiment to determine if the visual elements 02:20 22 of trade dress were functional. 02:20 23 Q. I also reviewed alternative What do you mean by you reviewed 02:20 24 alternative embodiments to determine if the 02:20 25 visual elements of the trade dress were 02:20 TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only Page 153 1 2 functional? 02:20 A. 02:20 Meaning if there were alternative 3 designs that performed the same function, then 02:20 4 they would not be considered functional, 02:21 5 dictated by function. 02:21 6 7 Q. Is that different than the alternative design standard you mentioned? 02:21 02:21 8 A. No. 02:21 9 Q. It's the same thing? 02:21 10 A. Same thing. 02:21 11 Q. What did you do in order to determine 02:21 12 whether the claimed Apple trade dress or any 02:21 13 element of the claimed Apple trade dress 02:21 14 yielded a utilitarian advantage? 02:21 15 A. I reviewed competitive phones to 02:21 16 determine whether there was anything in the 02:21 17 appearance and function of the phone that 02:21 18 was -- that had a utilitarian advantage over 02:21 19 other phones. 02:22 Q. 02:22 20 21 And did you do anything else to determine that? 02:22 22 A. No, I don't believe so. 02:22 23 Q. Please tell me everything you did as 02:22 24 part of this review of competitive phones that 02:22 25 you just described. 02:22 TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only Page 154 1 A. Throughout my report, I reviewed a 02:22 2 number of phones and compared their 02:23 3 functional -- the appearance of their 02:23 4 functionality. 02:23 5 16 and 17. And in my report -- let's see, 6 02:23 In my report, I worked against the 02:24 7 various visual elements that were identified in 02:24 8 the Apple patents and compared them to existing 02:24 9 phones to determine whether there were 02:24 10 alternative appearances that performed similar 02:24 11 functions. 02:24 12 13 14 Q. Did you do anything else as part of this review we're discussing? A. 02:24 02:24 02:24 I also reviewed the depositions of 15 I seem to have lost my place. 02:26 16 Apple designers in which they identified that 02:26 17 Apple had considered alternative designs and 02:26 18 were perfectly capable of executing them and 02:26 19 had decided upon the current design for 02:26 20 aesthetic reasons. 02:26 21 Q. My question is: Other than what 02:26 22 you've described, did you do anything else as 02:26 23 part of your review of competitive phones that 02:26 24 you talked about? 02:26 25 A. I'm not sure I understand your TSG Reporting - Worldwide 877-702-9580 02:26

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