Schoolcraft v. The City Of New York et al

Filing 298

DECLARATION of Suzanna P. Mettham in Support re: 297 MOTION for Summary Judgment .. Document filed by Christopher Broschart(Tax Id. 915354 in his official capacity), Christopher Broschart(Tax Id. 915354 Individually), Timothy Caughey(Tax Id. 885374 Individually), Timothy Caughey(Tax Id. 885374 in his official capacity), Kurt Duncan(Shield No. 2483, Individually), Kurt Duncan(Shield No. 2483 in his official capacity), William Gough(Tax Id. 919124, Individually), William Gough(Tax Id. 919124, in his Official Capacity), Thomas Hanley(Tax Id. 879761, in his Official Capacity), Thomas Hanley(Tax Id. 879761, Individually), Elise Hanlon(in her official capacity as a lieutenant with the New York City Fire Department), Elise Hanlon(individually), Shantel James(Shield No. 3004 in his official capacity), Shantel James(Shield No. 3004 Individually), Theodore Lauterborn(Tax Id. 897840 in his official capacity), Theodore Lauterborn(Tax Id. 897840, Individually), Michael Marino, Michael Marino, Gerald Nelson(Assistant Chief Patrol Borough Brooklyn North, Tax Id. 912370 in his official capacity), Gerald Nelson(Assistant Chief Patrol Borough Brooklyn North, Tax Id. 912370, Individually), Robert W. O'Hare(Tax Id. 916960, Individually), Robert W. O'Hare(Tax Id. 916960, in his Official Capacity), Frederick Sawyer(Shield No. 2576 in his official capacity), Frederick Sawyer(Shield No. 2576, Individually), The City Of New York, Timothy Trainer(Tax Id. 899922, in his Official Capacity), Timothy Trainer(Tax Id. 899922, Individually), Richard Wall, Sondra Wilson(Shield No. 5172, in her Official Capacity), Sondra Wilson(Shield No. 5172, Individually). (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A, # 2 Exhibit B, # 3 Exhibit C, # 4 Exhibit D, # 5 Exhibit E, # 6 Exhibit F, # 7 Exhibit G, # 8 Exhibit H, # 9 Exhibit I, # 10 Exhibit J, # 11 Exhibit K, # 12 Exhibit L, # 13 Exhibit M, # 14 Exhibit N, # 15 Exhibit O, # 16 Exhibit P, # 17 Exhibit Q, # 18 Exhibit R, # 19 Exhibit S, # 20 Exhibit T, # 21 Exhibit U, # 22 Exhibit V, # 23 Exhibit W, # 24 Exhibit X, # 25 Exhibit Y, # 26 Exhibit Z, # 27 Exhibit AA, # 28 Exhibit BB, # 29 Exhibit CC, # 30 Exhibit DD, # 31 Exhibit EE, # 32 Exhibit FF, # 33 Exhibit GG, # 34 Exhibit HH, # 35 Exhibit II, # 36 Exhibit JJ, # 37 Exhibit KK, # 38 Exhibit LL, # 39 Exhibit MM, # 40 Exhibit NN, # 41 Exhibit OO, # 42 Exhibit PP, # 43 Exhibit QQ, # 44 Exhibit RR)(Shaffer, Ryan)

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Page lr: 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUT¡IERN DTSTRICT OT NEW YORK ------x 2 3 ADRTAN SCHOOLCRAtr'B 1 / Plaintiff, 4 5 Case No: 10 cv agains t 6 06005 7 THE CITY OT NEW YORK, ET A], , I Defendants. 9 10 100 L1 New Church Street York, New York T2 ,Ianuary LO:22 13 30, m a 20L4 L4 15 16 Or t7 DEPOSITTON 18 19 pursuant to Subpoena, taken at the above place, date and time. before DENISE ZIVKU, Notary Public within and for the State of New York. 20 2L CATHERINE LAMSTEIN-REISS, M,D. a 22 23 24 25 VERITEXT REPORTTNG COMPANY 212-267-6868 ww'ril.veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 1 2 3 4 2 A P P E A R A N C E S: NAÍHANIEL B, SMITH, ESQ. AttorneYs for Plaintiff 111 BroadwaY New York, New York 10006 5 6 JOHN T.ENOIR , 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 14 15 16 t7 18 19 20 2t 22 23 E SQ . AtÈorneys for Pl,aintiff 829 Third SùreeÈ llashington, D. C. NE 2O0O2 CITY LATÍ DEPARTMENT OFFICE OF CORPORATTON COUNSEL Attornâys for Defendant THE CITY OF'NEW YORK 100 Church Street New York, New York 10007 SUZANNA PUBLICKER METTITAM, BY : NETí YORK t.i ':r ESQ. .rì SCOPPETTÀ SETFE KRETZ & ABERCROMBIE Attorneya for DefendanÈ STEVEN MAURIELLO BY: 444 Madison Avenue New York, New York LOA22 WAIJTER A. KRET Z, JR. , ESQ. rvoNE , DEVINE & itENSEN, LLP At,Èorneys for Defendant DR. ISAK ISAKOV 2001 Marcus Avenue Lake guccess, New York BY: YTILI.IAM ROBERT DEVINE, (Continuêd. LLO 42 ESQ. ) 24 25 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTTNG COMPANY www.veritext.com 5r 6-608-2400 Page 3 1 (Continued. ) 2 3 4 5 6 CALLAN, KOSTER, BRADY & BRENNAN, Attorneys f,or Defendant DR. LILIAN ALDANA-BERNTER Street One lfhitehall New York, New York 10004 BY: PAUI¡ CALLAN, ESQ. MATTHEW ,t. KOSTER, ESQ. IJLF 7 I MARTIN CLEARWATER & Attorneys 9 BEL,L for Defendant ' IrLP .TAMAICA HOSPITAL MEDICAL CENTER 10 BY; 22O East 42nd Street New York, New York 10017 BRIAN OSTERMAN, ESQ. 11 L2 À1so Present: Magdalena Bauza 13 L4 15 16 t7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 2t2-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTTNC COMPANY www.veritext,com 5 l6-608-2400 Fage 4 1 STIPULATIONS 2 3 4 5 6 IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED by and between the attorneys for the resPeetive parÈies hereto, that this examination may be sworn to before any Notary PubJ'ic. 7 I 9 10 IT IS FURTHER STIPUIJATED AND AGREED that of the said filing and certification examination shalL be waived. the 11 L2 13 L4 15 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED IhAt AIl to gu€!stions, except as to the objeetions form of the guestion, shall be reserved for the time of t¡íal. 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5r 6-608-2400 Page 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 cATHERINE LAMSTEIN-REISS, M. D. , a Nonparty witness herein, having been duly sworn bY a NotarY Public first wit,hin and for the State of New York, examined and testif íed as f ol.l.ovrs: was 7 I EXAMINATION BY 9 MR. SMITH: 10 11 L2 13 t4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 WiII you state your name and A. address f,or the record, please. Catherine Lamstein-Reiss , M.D . , A. NYPD Psych Evaluation Section, 59-17 .function Boulevard, Corona, New York 113 68 , MR. SMITH: I{e are going on the record, itts LOz22. We are at Law Department at 100 Church Street about to begin the deposition of Dr. Lams tein . TtsE 9IITNESS: Correct. MR. SMITts: Before we begin with the witness, Suzanna, as we have done in the past with other witness who arc! in the empJ.oy of t,he City of New York, 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY w\ilw.veritext.com 5r 6-608-2400 Page 84 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 t7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. LAMSTETN-RErgS, M. D. Isn't that what You do? A. that Thatrs one tYPe of referral A. we níght get. I s that the tYPe of ref erral' A. that you got in the SchooLcraft matter? MS. PUBLICKER METTEAM: OUiection. No. A. did You What type of referral A. get in the Schoolcraft, matÈer? That was a telePhone referral A. may have been Irm gorry, not from telephone, but either way that waa a surgeon. That from his dístrict referral or duty wasnrt Iike a commanding officer, captain thinking there night be a psychoJ.ogical problem removing the gun This vras t'he pending our evaluation. surgeon became aware of district psychological- issues with the officer and referred to us for an evaluation, How do you know that the A. surgeon didntt become asrare of district psychoLogicaL iggues aE a result of 212-267-6868 VEzuTEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5 16,608-2400 Page 85 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 discussion Schoolcraft's c. r.AMsTErN-RErSS, M. D. with a commanding officer in case? MS, PUBLICKER METTHAM: Ob jection. all. I know AlL I know is that A. ís the information that the offieer provided surgeon. to the district What I want know is what A. knowledge do you have about the sources of surgeon had information that the district avail,able to hím when he made the referraL to you? MS. PUBTICKER METTHAM: Ob jection. AlL I know is the ínformat,ion A. that the officer provided to him was I didn't aek for the referral. sufficient him did you speak to anybody else about If there's anything else anything else. that's relevant, if information comes from a command , the di s tr ict surgeon s impJ,y would f hatr s the reason f or the tel,l. us that. referral. Did Èhe distrÍct surg€ron t,eLl, A. 2t2-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com s r6-608-2400 Page 86 13 c. T,AMSTEIN-RETSS, M. D. you sources of his information that formed the basis for hie referral? MS . PUBLTCKER MEÍTHAM: Ob jectíon. The assumption I donrt recalL. A. is iÈ came from the offícer. Doctor, Irm not here to trY and A. make assumptions . Okay. Your re here, yourre under oath and if you have a of somet,hing, Please provide recollection it, but I don't want you guessing, I donft want you making assumPtíons; is that 14 under s to od? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 L2 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2l Thatrs understood. A, ALL ríght. So I am going to ask A. Did guestion again just so it's eIear. surgeon, in this case Ciuffo, district you what the sources of information he which formed the basis for his referral the the tetl had to you? 22 23 24 25 MS . PUBIJ I CKER ME TTHAM : Objection. I donrt recall with cerÈainty. A. Ylhat do you recall about him A. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTINC COMPAI.I-Y www.veritext.com 5 l6-608-2400 Page 87 16 c. LAMSTETN-RErSS, M. D you the source of his information? telling I donrt recall that with A. certainty. lÍhat do You mean bY with O. of Do you have any recollection certainty? the conversation with Ciuffo? MS . PUBLTCKER METTHAM: Ob jection. I recall gettíng his A. I would neeá to refer to the fite actually, to Eee if I have a telephone referral. So the answer to mY guestion is O, here today, Vou do not have a sitting of the actual conversation that recollection you had wit,h Ciuf f o about Schoolcraf t; is L7 that correct? 18 MS. PUBLTCKER METTHAM: Ob jection. I recalL deciding doing A. matterE with the çtun removaL administrative not the gun removaJ., the administrative I know he ¡natterg with his duty status. provided information to us t,hat Èhe officer had anxíety secondary t,o stress on the job. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 19 2o 2L 22 23 24 25 . 2t2-267-6868 VEzuTEXT REPORTING COMPANY www,veritext.com s l 6-608-2400 Page 88 1 2 3 4 5 5 7 8 9 10 11 T2 L3 L4 L5 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. LAMSTETN-RErSS, M. D. I don't recall with certaínty if he said said if he sPecifically specificalty I donrt have where he got that information. of that. a recoll,ection I'm going to trY to be mor€ A. c1ear, If Irm asking You what Your is about aomething, I'îl not recollection asking you to draw inf,erenees from other information that you have secondary sources about what that conversation was. What I am here today, do you asking you is sitting have a recoLLection of a conversation that you had with Ciuffo about Schoolcraft? MS . PUBI.ICKER METTHAM: Asked and answered muItipJ.e Ob jection. You may answer again. times. the onIY thing I I recal,l A. I matters. recall is the administrative recall our I donrt directly don't recall lhat referraJ.. conversation administrative wês a number of years ago. I recall what the information was, I don't recalI him specificalJ.y saying where he got that I would need to refer to the information. 212-267-6868 VEzuTEXT REPORTTNG COMPANY www.veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 89 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. r.AMsTErN-RErSS, M.D. which is in Èhe records. referral, initial Your fiLe? O. Correct. A, AII right, wouLd You mind ùaking A. a look at your file and seeing if looking at about that file refreshes your recollection the subject thaÈ I am asking you about, which is, whether or not Ciuffo told you the sources of his informatíon which formed the f,rom the medical basis for his referral division to PES? MS. PUBLICKER METTHAM: I wou].d prefe'r that you mark the actual produetion as an exhibit so that we can refer to the Bates Numbers. MR. SMITH: Yeah, if she could just take a Look at her I have a full copy of the whole thing. I just want you to take a look A. see if that refreshes at your originals, that would be helpful. your recollection, MS. PUBI¡ICKER METEHAM: If it's review that, see if, you could find t,hat. If it' s one of Èhe pages that f 2t2-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 90 22 c. LAMSTETN-RETSS, M. D. removed, you can review those. THE WITNESS: ft shouldn't be. MR, SMITH: lthile yourre doing that, I am going to mark as Exhibit 68' whích has been Bates the next exhibit, Stamped NYC 2893 through 3032. (Plaintif,f's Exhibit 68, document, was marked for identification as of this date.) I didn't document I donrt A. I can teIl you what my that so alL l had assumptions were about it, why I had that asEumption, but I don't have that Dr. Ciuffo where he specifically said speeifically where he got that information. What are you looking at? C, I was looking at my t,he note A. of my telephone call with him. lÍhat's the date? A. April L4, 2009. A. This is a handwritten note by A. 23 you? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 t4 15 16 t7 18 19 20 2t 2A A. 25 A. 2t2-267-6868 Correct. Dated April 14th? VEzuTEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5 l6-608-2400 Page 91 I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 T2 13 L4 15 16 t7 18 19 20 2t 22 23 24 25 C. ITAMSTEIN-REISS' M. D. Correct. A. can f take a look at Can You A. t,hat, please? MS. PUBI,ICKER MEf THAM: f believe t,he pagê ehe rs lookíng at is now the Baùes Numbers are cut NYC off on the bottom of this printout you provided, but it aPpears to be 2997, is to. what she was referring MR. SMITH: Thank You. About two-thirds down, T/C with A. . Dr. Ciuffo. Can you read that entrY into the A. record, please. April 1-4, 2009 telePhone contact A. Doctor taking MOS off with Dr. Cíuffo. medical. síck and restoring medicaJ.Iy to fuLl. duty. And t,hen t,hat's your sígnature? A. Bhat' s my s ignature r Yês A, can I just see There's some A. of t,hat, PIease? the original Then I also reviewed the written A. referral. he eent to us. . 2t2-267-6868 VEzuTEXT REPORTING COMPANY www,veritext,com 5I 6-608-2400 Page I 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 92 c. LAMSTETN-RETSS, M. D. Ífhere is thaÈ written ref erral? A. The toP of says: Consultation A. ConsuLtantrs medical division. referral report underneath. Looks like thís ' Should be one of the olde¡t thíngs in the fíle. MR, SMITH: IÈrs Bates Number on our coPy is 29L4. Could I see the originaL to A. that, please? Sure. A. This page with the cor¡sul tation A. medícal division form, that has a referral reference to conversations you had with Ciuffo ? No, it's a written information A. he provided to PES. gfhat is the inf ormation that he A. provided to PES? lfe nere asked to do an A. evaluation, becauge the officer had acute anxiety Eecondary distresg on the job, please evaLuate. AIl right, Eo what you were just A, reading thatts not your handwriting, that'g 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTINC COMPANY www,veritext.com sI 6-608-2400 Page 93 1 2 3 A I 6 1 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 C. LAMSTEfN-REfSS , M. D. Ciuffo's handwriting? Dr. Ciuffo, Yes . A. What' does thaÈ mean Dr. Ciuffo. A. acute anxie ty second degrree s tress on the job? means it's Acute anxietY ís A. yeah, itts not a chronic not a chronic That he is J.ong term Lif elong anxiety. going through a period of increased anxiety due to gtress on the job. Ifas this a diagnosis bY Ciuf f o A. of the Schoolcraftrs mental condítion? MS , PUBLI CKER METTHAM : Objection ' lthat was Dr. Ciuf f o ' s assessment A. as it appears in his writings. MR. SMITH z 29L4 . You can't read it in the coPy' MS. PUBLICKER METTHAM: T believe iÈ's easier to read in the first copy t,hat ytas produced in 2010 or ?OLL 24 25 A. 212-267-6868 , MR. SMITH: Ríght. Now that yourve looked at those VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com st6-608-2400 Page 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L1 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 94 c. LAMSTETN-RErSS, M.D. does that refresh two entries in your fite, at alt on the issue of you your recollection how do you beíng toLd the sources of pronounce hiE name? Ciuffo. A. Ciuffors information about A. Schoolcraft? Again, I do not recalL his A. statíng where he got t'hat speaifically He may or may not have. f information. didn' t docu¡nent it ' I just had mY assumptions. And the exercige of Right. O. is trying to ref resh a witneEsr recol'lection once they saíd Irm not sure, I donrt really remember, if you show them something sometimeg they go ah, now I remember and so Itm asking you r after lookíng aÈ these t,hat entries, do you have any recollection has been recently refreshed by looking at those entries? I do not. A. How many times did you speak O. with Dr. Ciuffo about Schoolcraft? 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 95 c . LAMSTETN-RETSS I M. D. 1 A. A. 2 3 4 5 6 1 I 9 10 11 t2 13 t4 15 16 T7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 Once. And that was on the 14th of according to your notes? right, ApriI, If that's the date on that note A. that I just referred to then, Yêe. It is. A. Okay, then, yes . A. of Do you have any recollection A. other the substance of that conversation, than what yourve aJ.ready told me? I don' t recalL . A. Af,ter you stopped seeing C. did you ever have any Schoolcraft, convêrsation with Ciuffo abouÈ Schoolcraft? No. A. Am I correct that the onJ.y time A. you can recall having any conversation with Ciuffo about SchooLcraft was that one occasion? A. Correct. Why don't you take a look at A. Exhibit 68, which is a phot,ocopy of your file, ât Ieast I believe it is a photocopy of your file. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www,veritext.com 516-608-2400 Page 113 22 c. LAMSTETN-RErSS, M. D That necessarily fitness for duty issues. f or hiE ottn sake would be good to discuE s with a therapist should he want too. I aleo recommended he see e f,or en cvaluation rcause two psychiatrist doctors had Prescribed psyehiatric different medication to hi¡n. One he finished taking and one he hadn't started and it wasn't clear to me why one of those was Prescribed and, I just, ê9 a matter of course always think itts better if someone EeeE a medication psychiatrist for psychiatric inEtead of, their prirnarY doctor. Did you teLl SchooJ.craf t' that he A. didn't need medication? MS . PUBLICKER METTHAM: Ob jection. A. I t,old him that, af ter he tol,d me noÈ at the f irst aPpointment. f toLd hi¡n that at Èhe second and third apPointment when he told me he no longer had no 23 symptoms. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 t2 13 L4 1.5 16 L7 18 19 20 2L . A, 24 25 didn't 2t2-267-6868 So you did tell medicatíon, right? hin that he VERITEXT REPORTTNG COMPANY www.veritext.com 5 l 6-608-2400 Fage L49 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 LL L2 13 L4 15 16 L1 18 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. LAMSTETN-RgrSs, M. D. when to know that s!¡ouId stressf,ul things happen with his life again stressful lle that these symptoms woul'd not reoccur. períod of tirne to know need a significant that thinge rcally are calm and iÈ's Itrs not something that I had possible. discussed with suPervisors at that poínt, but iÈ's possibte that we might have been abl,e to reÈurn him to fuII duty without being able Èo spealc to the doctor who Some doctor prescribed the Seroguel. and it thought he needed ân antiPsychotic would no! be prudent of us to gíve someone back their çtun in position of, poliee auÈhority wiÈhout knowing why that was. TÍell, did You ever f ind out whY A. some physician prescribed Seroguel? The of,fícer refused to allow me A. to obtain that information. !{ho etas it that prescribed O. Seroquel? Dr. Sure. A. How do you know that Dr. Sure A. prescribed Seroguel? 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5 1 6-608-2400 Page 203 16 c. TJAMSTETN-RErSS, M. D. OkaY. So A. as weLl as mY treatment A. recomrnendations. He came back into Your office A, after your conversation with Knour and you toLd him that his guns Yrclre being removed? It was a temPorary removal A. pending a more comPlete discussion and supervision the fol.Iowing day with my direct supervisor, yes. At this point, it lúas af ter hours . I t was af ter normal bus ines st hours. So I was the onIY one there. I{hat tíme was this? A. Donr t know. A. Why were you seeing him after Q. L1 hour 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 s? 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 MS . PUBIJTCKER METTHAM: Objection. Because we always have coverage A. 24/7. The r{ay it works is every day there who we caII the 10 to 6 is someone who is person, who works 10 to 6 and if the case comes in too late in the afternoon Èo be seen by someone working a regruJ.ar tour, but 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5l 6-608-2400 Page 317 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. T.,AMSTETN-RErSS, M. D. report that gets sent out. Ile have our casê records and Yrê have tike a fil,L in the blank form that just eaYE that the gun should be just removed. Not any kind of evaluation, that the guns were removed and thet lverre requesting a new ID card and so on. Okay. Going back to the A. typewriÈten timeline that' yourve creat,ed. there' s aR entry X'O / 3L/ 09. You The entry were the psychologist' on Pager duty. You see that? I do. A. And you got a caLl from CaPtaín A. Irauterborn? Yes. A. Do you remember getting that A. call from Captain Lauterborn? CaPtain A. More specifically, Lauterborn caIIed the síck desk suPervisor, who then called the psychoJ.ogist' on pager duty reguesting I respond and in response to that reguest I called Captain Lauterborn back. So he didn't call me directly. Did Captain Lauterborn know that A. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5r 6-608-2400 Page 318 L 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. LAMSTETN-RErSS, M.D. you vrere the psychologist that, had Eeen Schoolcraft when he called? MS . PUBLICKER METTHAM: Objectíon. I don't belíeve he did. What A. happens is they cafí the gick desk supervisor, who looks up and sees who is on duty and they ealL whoever ie on duty. So on October 3L, 2009 r You A. happened to be on Pager dutY? Correct. A. So Captain Lauterborn called the A. sick desk and he was looking f,or somebody f,rom the psychological evaLuation services? MS . PUBLICKER METTHAM: Ob jection. Psychological evaLuation A. seeùion. AIthough, the Psychological serviceE seetion, which does Pre-employment acreeníng, they also do Pager duty. He waE J,ooking for a department psychologist to give him a caLl to consult about the situation, Díd you telL Captain Lauterborn A. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTTNG COMPANY www.veritext.oom sl 6-608-2400 Page 319 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 I 9 10 11 t2 13 t4 15 16 L1 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 . r.AMsrErN-RETSS I M. D. you had evaluated and meÈ wíth SchooLcraft? Yes. À. And told him that during the A. converEation that you had with him on October 31st? Yes. A. What else did You tell CaPtaín A. Lau ùe rborn ? He was asking me if there ¡ras A, any reason to be concerned about the fact that, he went AWOI¡ and that he seemed to be upset and said he had stomach pains and should they be concerned, do they need to 90 Iook for hím, make Eure he' g okaY. they do. IIe TypicalJ,y, in that situation said he wasnrt sure they wanted to suspend him, because they thought thi s ¡{as more of a psychological problem as opposed to a one and so he wanted to consult disciptinary with me. I told hím that as of the last time I saw him, which wae a f eYr days earl ier , I had no reason t,o t,hink he was a dange r to himseJ. f or o thers . Never c 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY' www,veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 320 2L C. LAMSTEIN.REISS , M. D. It didn't expressed thoughts of suicide. seem to be anything that serious that would lead me to be concerned. However / he had also never acted Iike that bef ore. IIe never wenÈ AÍÍOL, Ieaving even though hc was told to stay and was now saying he had stomach So I díd pains, while being visibty upset. not know if t,hat meant something new happened that led him to be ao upset that he ¡ras acting in a dif ferent mannea going AWOL and that, kínd of stuff and led to a reoccurrence of stomach pains badly enough that he did that or rnaybe the s tomach paíns nevea went away to begin with and I wasn't even surc¡ and that, my evaluation ig though , I ytas not saying thi s Pelson i s he's had these thoughts, You must suicidal, I had no it was nothing like that. aeason to think he t{as¡, except my evaluation was only as good âs the last time I saw 22 them. 23 So if something happened since since then, then or theyrre acting different And so I thought he that, may be different. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 L0 x1 L2 13 14 x5 t6 L7 t8 L9 20 24 25 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTTNG COMPANY www.veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 321 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. TJAMSTETN-RErSS, M. D. absolutely did need to f ind hirn and make sure that he was okaY. Tfas your sharing of inf ormatíon A. about Schoolcraft with Lauterborn a of Schoolaraftrs prívacy? violation MS . PUBIJTCKER METTHAM: Ob jection. theY're not This is No . A. IVhenevêtr they come to treatment records. before I aLlow our off,ice before they the¡n to open their mouth on all, I make sure that they know that the interview is on the record only within the department and only on a need to know basis, so wíthin that it is on the record. So in this case, someone is AWOL and theytre upset and they leave and they say their sto¡nach hurts and theyrre acting in that manner, I deemed there was a need to know, foc him to know some basic inf,ormation duty, Not about why he was on restricted information like, You know, whether or not had any kind of drug his father used problem, whether or not he's had sex in the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext,çom 5l 6-608-2400 Page 325 4 c. LAMSTEIN-REI SS , M. D believe you're 2899 and 282 | Mr. Smith? MR. SMITII: Ir¡n actually to 2901,, with the ledger and referring 5 Pager. 1 2 3 6 1 I 9 10 11 L2 13 14 15 16 L7 18 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 . MS. PUBLICKER METIIIAM: It ís D282, ít is but 2901. So is there a rather long entrY A. Doctor? for LO/3L in your file, I dontt know what you consider A. rather long, but itrs F'our Page s ? A. One, two, three', f our and a A. third, yes. AII right, can you just read A. that into the record. Sure. Pager duties regarding A. LO / 3L / Og r on Ieft P. O. Adrian Schoolcraft, of the page f noted that I was on at L1 z 40 hours, Page number 455 refers to the sick f noted desk log of my being put on duty. below that that f ytas off duty at 2L:40 hour s . Baek to the main te¡ßt in the body felephone contact with sick desk L0/3L/09. Sergeant KIoos. . 2t2-267-6868 VERÍTEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5l 6-608,2400 Page 326 22 . LAMSTETN-RETSS , M. D. MS. PUBLICKER METTHAM: K-l-o-o-s. Yes. I believe that's the A. Itrs Possible I'm wrong about the speIIing. speJ.Iing. MOS wae at work today. He slammed sick report on the sergeantts desk Sergeant and said he was going out sick' told him to stick around. He ref,used and Didn' t folLow Procedure. Typically, left. they called sick desk and 9et authorLzation and wait for command to arrange covêrage. MOS was working on the teJ.ePhone home. MOS díd not go straight switchboard. Cops are at his home waiting for his They called MOS on his ceLl. phone. arrival. They thínk he picked up and then hung up. Since then no answer. They are thinking of auspending him, but they suspect Ít is more of, psych problem, XO of, MOS's command, the 81 Precinct, is Captain Lauterborn and requests response f,rom PES and I signed my 23 name. 24 The is information that you A. received from Sergeant Kloos from the sick 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 x5 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 25 c 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 321 c. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L1 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 r¡AMSTETN-RETSS I M. D. desk? Correct. A. AtI right, please continue' A. It wiII be more clear as Ifm A. reading through the notes, but it's PoseibIe that the part about possibly not susPending him becauge they thought it might be motre of a psych problem, that may have com€t secondhand through Sergeant Kloos. If it it would be t,he rest the came direetly, notes. Telephone contact with Captain MOS doing a 7 to 3 day tour Lauterborn. today at TS aII day, meaning telephone He swítchboard all day. AII was fine. keeps t,o self and doesn't converse typically ¡nuch with other of f icer and did same today. 2:00 p.m. , Nothing seemed out of ordinary. he went down to locker room, changed and then put a sick report on sergeant's desk He wrote that he had and said going sick. Sergeant tried to stop him, stomach pain. but he left anyway. Underlying issues. MOS has made aILegations against others, 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTTNG COMPANY www.veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 328 I 2 3 4 5 6 1 I 9 10 11 L2 13 L4 15 16 L7 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. LAMSTETN-RETSS / M. D. of these Department's investigation al,Legatíons picked uP this week and it This week about four snowballed from there. peopJ.e were called P. O. 's and two civilian MOS goos uP to them down for guestioning. are in Notifications and asked about it. telephone message log, so he knows who is going. When they return, he tries to interaept them and get information from Èhem about it about what he was asked should have been what they were asked. Or that thought the person was a he. Anyway, that's what it says what he was asked. tour back after RDOs. Not Today was first sure what happened today that triggered him to Leave like that. DeLegates, peers, sergeants and Captain Lauterborn aJ,L left, him messeges and asked him to go back to command. A lieutenant is at him home. Eis car is Èhere. Landlord said MOS may have been there earlier. Can usually hear MOSts fooÈsteps when home. MOS not home, Next entry, f l-ef t a mes sege on 2t2-267-6868 VEzuTEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Page 329 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 I 9 10 11 L2 13 t4 15 16 L1 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. LAMSTEXN-REISS, M. D. MOS's ceLL phone. I gave my cell' number and Captain Lauterborn's cell phone. I told him that the Captain said he could just return to his homE if didnrt ¡rant to go to the eommand. I urged him to go home or call his eaptain, so this couLd be resoLved guickJ.y and easily without need for a city-wide to search for hím or mobilization action, Like suspension. Much disciplinary easier to just resolve it quickly and easily now. I explained that everyone is just concerned for his safety and they want to make sure everyonê is okay. Next entry, teJ.ephone contact I informed captain with Captain Lauterborn. that I left message on MOSrs cell phone as described above. I suggested that captain call MOSrs father because thatrs the perEon he is closest to and the person who is most IikeIy to know his whereabouts. Captain will ealJ. undersigned when locates or haars from MOS, signed my namê. Next entry at 20:15 hours. TeJ.ephone contact ¡vith Captain Lauterborn. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com sI 6-608-2400 Page 330 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 L2 L3 L4 15 L6 L1 18 L9 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. LAMSTETN-RErSS, M. D. no word from MOS. Captain caLl'ed MOS's Still father, who also hadn't heard from him. Father, quote, had some issues, end guote, over phone, but eventually over the phone undcrstood captainrs point of view and Hoping father wiLL call MOS and eonfirmed. êncourage him to go home. Captain will go to MOSts home. It's possible he's home, but not ariswering phone, I aEked if the landLord has a Epare key. He said yes and captain has it, but J.egaJ. issues with using. Have to have cause. Hoping to avoid going t,ha t rou te What wÉlre those legal issues? A. f didn't ask. I don't know. À. MS . PUBLTCKER METTTIJII{: Ob jectíon. ALl right, 90 ahead? A. A. And I signed my name . 20:40 I'm sorry 2Lz4Q hours the next entry Telephone contact hours is the next entry. with Sergeant Kloos. Sick desk off duty since not known when MOS night be loeated and I signed my name. . 2t2-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTINC COMPANY www,veritext.com 5I 6-608-2400 Fage 331 I 2 3 4 5 6 1 I 9 1o TL t2 13 L4 15 16 t1 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 25 c. LAMSTEIN-REXSS, M. D. Then nexÈ pâge on the top regarding Adrian Schoolcraft addendum to tO/3L/09 note of telephone contact with Capt,ain Lauùerborn at approximately 17:50 hours. Detayed entry made on L0/LA/LO. In reviewíng f oJ-der, the below inf or¡nation was found Èo not be documented in prior note, but is cLear in undersignedrs memory. Captain Lauterborn asked if MOS r{as suicidaL otr depressed because he needed to know how concerned they should be about MOSrs safety given his going AWOL. Not answering phone cal-ls, not answering door of home, but his car was t,here, êt cetera, Can I stop you right there. A. llhen did you make this entry? A. October 14, 2010. October what? A. A. L4, 2010. Can I see the original thaÈ A. youtre reading from? A. Sure. How do you know that, you made A. this entry on October 24, 2010? 2t2-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTTNG COMPANY www.veritext.com 5r 6-608-2400

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