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Yu, Henry 4/7/2011 12:00:00 PM
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
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In Re:
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FONTAINEBLEAU LAS VEGAS
Banker Case No.:
HOLDINGS, LLC, et al.,
09-21481-BKC-AJC
MDL02106
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Debtors.
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FONTAINEBLEAU LAS VEGAS LLC, Adv. Pro. No.:
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Plaintiff,
09-01621 ~AP-AJC
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vs.
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BANK OF AMERICA, N.A.,
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et al.,
Defendants.
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VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF HENRY YU
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Thursday, April 7, 2011
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New York, New York
9:37 a.m.
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Reported By:
Josephine H. Fassett
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JOB No. 160451
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Bank of America - Fontainebleau
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Q
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A
Yes.
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Q
On how many occasions?
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A
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Have you ever been deposed before?
A couple. I don't recall exactly how
many times.
Q
In connection with your duties and
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responsibilities at Bank of America or in other
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capacities?
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A
Once in other capacities, the rest for
Bank of America.
Q
Have you had a chance to meet with
your counsel before this deposition?
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A
Yes.
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Q
You had a chance to discuss with him
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the procedures we're about to embark upon?
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A
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Q
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Yes.
Do you have any questions before we
begin?
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A
No.
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Q
All right. You understand that this
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lawsuit is one brought by my clients, a number of
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term lenders in the Las Vegas Credit Facility?
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A
Yes.
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Q
And they brought this case against
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your employer Bank of America?
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A
Yes.
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Q
Okay. Did you do anything to prepare
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for this deposition here today?
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A
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yesterday.
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Q
Anything else?
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A
That was it.
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Q
How long did you meet with them?
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A
We started sometime in the morning and
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I met with Dan Cantor and Ken Murata
ended late in the afternoon.
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Q
Did you review any documents?
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A
Dan and Ken showed me several
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documents.
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Q
Any of those help to refresh your
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recollection of the events .that occurred in the
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past?
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A
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Those are just the documents that we
looked at, and nothing else came up.
Q
Did any of the documents that you
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looked at help refresh your recollection concerning
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any events that occurred in the past?
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A
I don't believe so.
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Q
Did you speak with anyone other than
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your counsel concerning your deposition here today?
A
No.
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Q
Did you speak with any person who you
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understood to have been deposed in this case
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previously?
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A
No.
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Q
Did you review any transcripts?
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A
No.
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Q
Did you review any discovery
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responses?
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A
No.
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Q
Are you -- what is your current --
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strike that.
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By whom are you currently employed,
Mr. Yu?
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A
Bank of America.
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Q
What is your position?
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A
I'm a senior vice president in the
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Special Assets Group.
Q
How long have you been a senior vice
president in the.Special Assets Group?
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I joined the Special Assets Group in
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the fourth quarter of 1986, and I believe I became a
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senior vice president sometime in the early 1990s.
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Q
And have been that since continuously?
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A
No.
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Q
What other positions have you held?
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A
I retired from the bank in the fourth
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quarter of 1998. Was asked to rejoin the bank in
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the fourth quarter of 2000. Retired again in the
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second quarter of 2004. Was asked to rejoin the
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bank fourth quarter of 2007. Retired again, I think
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around August of 2008. Was asked to rejoin the bank
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again around November of 2008. And that brings me
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to the present.
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Q
From November of 2008 until the
10
present, have you been a senior vice president in
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the Special Assets Group?
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A
Yes.
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Q
What is the Special Assets Group?
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A
The Special Assets Group work on
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situations where we believe the borrower may have
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problems repaying its obligations or that the
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borrower may be unwilling to repay its obligations.
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Q
How big is the Special Asset Group
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now?
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A
You mean in terms of how many people?
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Q
Yes.
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A
I would believe there would be
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hundreds of people, but most of them work on what we
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call middle market deals. I am in the group that
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deals with large corporate workouts in North
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America, and that group may be, it's about 30,40,
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50 people.
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Q
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Do you typically work on more than one
deal at a time?
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A
Yes.
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Q
Currently how many deals are you
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working on?
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A
Currently two or. three.
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Q
Is one of them Fontainebleau?
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A
Yes.
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Have you worked continuously on
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Fontainebleau since you began your assignment on
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that matter?
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A
No. I started working on
Fontainebleau in the middle of February of 2009.
Q
My question was: Have you been
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working continuously on Fontainebleau since the time
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that you began working on it? So it's from February
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2009 to the present, have you at all times had
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Fontainebleau Las Vegas as one of the matters that
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you've been working on?
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A
Yes.
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Q
What are your current responsibilities
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with respect to Fontainebleau Las Vegas?
A
I am acting as the client for
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O'Melveny.
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Q
What does that mean?
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A
Right now practically everything
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happening on Fontainebleau is related to litigation,
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and so I am the businessperson at the bank
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responsible for how the litigation is going to be
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handled.
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Q
What are the other matters that you're
currently working on?
A
That is something that the bank does
not normally disclose.
Q
Okay. What are the other matters that
you're currently working on?
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MR. CANTOR: Why do you need to know
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that and how is it remotely relevant to this
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case?
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MR. DILLMAN: Let me get at it perhaps
a different way.
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MR. CANTOR: Okay.
BY MR. DILLMAN:
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On the other matters that-· on the
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other matters that you're currently working on, are
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you the client in connection with litigatlon or do
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your job duties include other matters?
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A
Not all of the other matters are
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litigation related.
Okay. There's only one or two, right?
Q
You said you were working on two or three matters?
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A
Correct.
5
Q
Okay. So of the one or two -- how
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many are you working on, one or two additional?
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A
You could say two.
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Q
All right. Of those two, are either
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of them matters in which you are a client on behalf
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of the Bank of America in connection with
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litigation?
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A
No.
13
Q
Okay. When you joined Bank of
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America -- rejoined for the third time, in August of
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'08, did your -- excuse me -- in November of '08,
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did you understand that Fontainebleau Las Vegas was
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one of the matters that you would be working on?
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A
No.
19
Q
What was your understanding as to why
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the Bank of America asked you to come out of
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retirement in November of 2008?
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A
Couple reasons.
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The first was that when I came out of
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retirement in 2007, I was asked to come back to work
25
on certain problems, and those problems are
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continuing, so the bank asked me to come back and
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continue working on those.
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The second reason was there was a
major blowup, if you will, in the corporate world
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around that time that the bank wanted me to come
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back to handle.
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Q
When you came back, were you assigned
to any particular matter?
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A
Yes.
10
Q
How many matters were you assigned to
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at the time that you came back?
A
There was one major matter, and
several minor ones.
Q
These were all, however, in the --
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under the general rubric of large corporate
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workouts?
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A
Yes.
18
Q
At the time that you began working on
19
the Fontainebleau Las Vegas matter, how many other
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matters were you working on?
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A
There were probably two or three major
matters, and maybe a couple of minor ones.
Q
When you say "two or three major," did
24
that include Fontainebleau Las Vegas or were those
25
in addition to?
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Who is the account officer who
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requested Special Assets to get involved as a result
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of a letter from Chase?
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A
Brennan Bolio?
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Q
At that time -- strike that.
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And what was the specific concern
7
raised by Chase that caused Special Asset Groups to
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be contacted, if you know?
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A
If I remember correctly, in a monthly
10
report that IVI had produced around the end of 2008,
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maybe early 2009, they pointed out that they were
12
not entirely confident that what Fontainebleau was
13
projecting to be LEEDs credits, and that is credits
14
apparently would come from the building being green,
15
would be all available.
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Q
The concern was that the LEED credits
might not all be available?
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A
Right.
19
Q
Okay.
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A
That's my recollection.
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Q
What was there about credits not being
22
available that was of sufficient concern to Chase to
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have Mr. Bolio contact the Special Assets Groups?
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MR. CANTOR: Object to the form. You
can answer.
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THE WITNESS: I'm sorry?
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MR. CANTOR: I object to the form of
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the question, but you can answer.
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A
Could you rephrase the question?
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Q
I'll just have it reread. If you
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don't understand it, I'll be happy to clarify any
7
question you have.
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(Whereupon, the requested portion was
read back by the Reporter:
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"Question: What was there about
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credits not being available that was of
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sufficient concern to Chase to have Mr. Bolio
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contact the Special Assets Groups?")
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A
Are you asking me to speculate on
15
Brandon's frame of mind when he contacted the
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$pecial Assets Group?
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Q
I'm asking you to testify as to the
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understanding within the Special Asset Group as to
19
why the LEED credit issue was of sufficient
20
importance to potentially warrant the utilization of
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what I understand from your testimony to be scarce
22
resources of the Special Asset Groups at that time.
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A
I believe there were two reasons from
my perspective.
One was that apparently up to that
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time IVI had not raised issues of any consequence ·
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that were not resolved before they issued the
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monthly reports.
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The second reason is that when you
5
have a participant in a deal actually write a letter
6
to you that it's not a usual circumstance.
7
Did you come to have an understanding
Q
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of the concerns that Chase had with respect to the
9
LEED credit issue?
10
A
What timeframe are you referring to?
11
Q
At any timeframe.
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A
Well, that would be hard to say,
13
because obviously that happened quite a while ago
14
and a lot of things have happened since then.
15
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My question, though, has to do with
Q
Chase's concern.
17
Did you at any time come to understand
18
what the concern that Chase had with respect to the
19
LEED credit issues that caused it to contact
20
Mr. Bolio?
21
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MR. CANTOR: The concern that was
expressed in the letter you mean?
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MR. DILLMAN: Yes.
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Q
Or otherwise, but that topic, that
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issue.
2
A
Well, as I said, I have had lots of
3
contacts with Chase since February of 2009 and a
4
whole number of issues have been discussed, so I
5
don't know how to answer that question.
6
Q
Upon getting involved in the
7
Fontainebleau Las Vegas matter, did you have an
8
understanding that there were issues involving LEED
9
credits that were potentially significant?
1O
A
After I got involved, that was one of
11
the issues that repeatedly came up and we tried
12
repeatedly to get answers from Fontainebleau.
13
Q
And was one of the concerns that you
14
had was that you weren't getting sufficient answers
15
from Fontainebleau over time?
16
A
It would be correct to say that I was
17
very frustrated at the level of information we were
18
getting.
19
20
Q
And was this a concern to your
knowledge that Chase shared with you?
21
A
Yes.
22
Q
Who did Mr. Bolio contact at Special
23
Asset Groups after getting this letter from Chase,
24
if you know?
25
A
I don't know.
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something is in special assets.
2
Q
Okay.
3
A
So someone has to go turn on the field
4
5
or flag. Is that what you're asking?
Q
No, but that would certainly be
6
responsive. But no, I'm asking more about, you
7
know, a form, Special Asset Groups involvement in
8
this signed off by the necessary and appropriate
9
people, you know, sent to whatever person that
10
processes such forms, that kind of a process.
11
A
Yes.
12
Q
There is?
13
A
There is.
14
Q
And did that occur here?
15
A
Yes, I believe it did.
16
Q
Describe the process for me.
17
A
The -- as I said, the bank has various
18
computer systems and there are various operational
19
groups that would have the security access to put in
20
information into those databases. So when an
21
account transfers between the normal stream, if you
22
will, of account officer work into Special Assets,
23
there's a form that specifically say that, that is
24
sent to the operational people so they can turn the
25
flags on and off so that from that point onwards a
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different group of people would be allowed to enter
2
information.
3
Q
Who made the decision to have Special
4
Asset Groups at Bank of America become involved in
5
the Fontainebleau Las Vegas matter?
6
A
The decision resides in the Special
7
Assets Group. So, for example, in -- like I said,
8
in most situations the account officer would be the
9
one requesting help and it is up to the head of
10
Special Assets, or whoever he delegates that
11
responsibility to, to accept the handover, if you
12
will, of the account. That decision could be based
13
on a number of factors. One is the circumstances of
14
the particular deal. The second one is whether
15
Special Assets has the manpower to take it on.
16
So that situation is something that
17
both the account officer and the Special Assets
18
officer work together on the handover process.
19
In very rare situations -- in very
20
rare situations, and I have not seen such situations
21
since probably the 1990s, an account officer would
22
try to hang on to an account when the Special Assets
23
Group thinks that it should be in Special Assets.
24
In those situations the decision is with the head of
25
Special Assets to say "This account does not belong
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to you anymore, it's going to be in Special Assets,"
2
Those are extremely rare and, again, my recollection
3
is I haven't seen one since the 1990s.
4
Q
Fontainebleau was not one of those?
5
A
Fontainebleau was not one of those.
6
Q
So when Fontainebleau -- who made the
7
decision on behalf of the Special Asset Group to
8
take on the responsibility at whatever level it was
9
taken on for Fontainebleau Las Vegas?
1O
A
Tom Biaggi.
11
Q
And what was, if you know, what was
12
the basis for the decision to take Fontainebleau on
13
as a Special Asset Group project?
14
A
As I said, Tom was contacted by Mark
15
Cohen. Tom, Mark and I have known each other for a
16
very long time. I think I met Mark back in the late
17
1980s. And I think Tom would have been similar. We
18
have a lot of respect for Mark. And when he's
19
concerned, he usually has a very good reason. So
20
that's one reason.
21
The second reason, as I said, we have
22
gotten the letter from JPMorgan Chase. We also have
23
a very healthy respect for the workout group at
24
Chase. And, again, if they are concerned, then we
25
definitely think that the matters need some more
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looking into. So again, it goes back to those two
2
events.
3
Q
Run back the tape recorder of the
4
conversation that you had with Mr. Cohen and
5
Mr. Biaggi.
6
A
Are you asking me a question?
7
Q
Yes. I ask you to run back the tape
8
recorder, in other words, tell us what happened
9
during the conversation --
10
A
I did not talk to Mark.
11
Q
-- between you and Mr. Biaggi.
12
A
As I said, Mark contacted Tom, so I
13
don't know what they said to each other other than
14
that Tom told me that Mark said that someone in Bank
15
of America Special Assets should look into
16
Fontainebleau.
17
Q
I thought -- I apologize. I thought
18
you had said that you and Mr. Biaggi and Mr. Cohen
19
spoke.
20
A
No. I said --
21
Q
That's not correct?
22
A
No, I said Tom, Mark and I knew each
23
24
25
other for a very long time.
Q
No, you did say that, before that I
thought you had said you had spoken.
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A
No.
2
Q
But that's not the case; is that
3
right?
4
A
No.
5
Q
Okay. All right. I apologize, I may
6
have misheard you.
7
You said the Special Asset Groups gets
8
involved in situations where it believes the
9
borrower may have problems repaying obligations or
1O
may be unwilling to repay obligations. Was that a
11
circumstance that existed upon Special Asset Groups
12
getting involved in the Fontainebleau Las Vegas
13
matter?
14
A
No.
15
Q
So, as far as you know, the only, the
16
two -- the two factors that played into the decision
17
to get involved were, one, the issues raised by
18
Chase; two, the issues raised by Deutsche Bank?
19
A
Right.
20
Q
Did Mr. Bolio indicate his preference
21
22
to have Special Asset Groups involved?
A
I don't remember enough to say whether
23
it's a preference, so I don't know what the basis of
24
your question is.
25
Q
The basis of my question is simply to
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find out whether Mr. Bolio indicated that he would
2
like to have Special Asset Groups involved?
3
A
He requested that Special Assets Group
4
consult with him. There were a couple of reasons
5
for that. One was that his boss, Jeff Sussman, had
6
just been -- I guess was in the process of leaving
7
the bank, and Brian Corum was coming in to replace
8
him. So even on the account officer's side, it was
9
someone new coming in anyway. So to the extent that
10
any advice from Special Assets Group is useful, that
11
would be a good time for someone to come in and
12
help.
13
And then the second reason was that he
14
had gotten the concerns from IVI. And -- and in
15
addition to all that, there is a global set of
16
issues, if you will, that obviously the American
17
economy was not doing well at that point in time.
18
The Las Vegas situation economically was not good.
19
The fact that Fontainebleau had problems selling
20
condos at that point in time. So in addition to
21
kind of the micro factors affecting just
22
Fontainebleau, there were also some macro factors
23
that would be of concern.
24
25
Q
Fontainebleau in your estimation was a
troubled project when you got involved?
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A
Fontainebleau, when I got involved,
2
there were concerns on the macro level that, as I
3
said, the American economy was not doing well at
4
that time. Las Vegas was not doing well. There
5
were concerns about how Fontainebleau will be able
6
to -- whether Fontainebleau would be able to do as
7
well as they had hoped at the beginning of the
8
project. So yes, there were those kind of global
9
macro concerns other than, as I said before, the
1O
LEEDs credits IVI was getting concerned about.
11
Q
When Special Asset Groups first got
12
involved with Fontainebleau Las Vegas, at what level
13
were they involved?
14
A
Advisory.
15
a
Is that typical that you come in at
16
the advisory level?
17
A
Yes.
18
a
Would it be unusual to come in at
19
20
advisory hybrid or direct?
A
In the circumstances that
21
Fontainebleau was at advisory would have been
22
appropriate. Obviously another situation, let's
23
say, for example, a company had just filed
24
bankruptcy without any forewarning, then obviously
25
it would have been more appropriate for Special
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Assets Group to come in and take it over direct.
2
But at that point in time, when we were looking at
3
Fontainebleau, again, we were -- we had some
4
concerns about the macro factors. IVI had pointed
5
out that there may some issues with the LEEDs
6
credits. And if I remember correctly, the order of
7
magnitude of those LEED credits were like 20 million
8
dollars or so. So in the context of a 3 billion
9
dollar project, that is not a very material number.
10
So at that point in time, if I remember correctly,
11
the risk rating on Fontainebleau was still just a
12
special mention.
13
Q
What does "special mention" mean?
14
A
The American banking Regulators have a
15
classification system on credits. Special mention
16
is the first category of concern, if you will. It
17
suggests that there is something that should be paid
18
more close attention to from special mention, then
19
you have substandard, you have doubtful, and then
20
you have loss.
21
Q
And do those categories correspond to
22
any particular risk rating that BofA applies to
23
credits?
24
A
Yes.
25
Q
What is this, what is the
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corresponding risk rating to special mention?
2
A
Eight.
3
Q
Substandard?
4
A
Nine.
5
Q
Doubtful?
6
A
Ten.
7
Q
It don't get any higher than that,
8
does it?
MR. CANTOR: Yeah.
9
10
A
Loss is 11 .
11
Q
Eleven, okay. I'd been told that you
12
only went to 10. Okay, so loss is 11?
13
A
Yeah, but loss is loss.
14
Q
Loss is loss.
15
A
16
17
18
19
That's true, I don't know we actually
assign 11. Loss is loss.
Q
Okay. And risk -- Risk Rating 10, in
fact, assumes that there will be a loss, doesn't it?
A
Risk Rating 10 doubtful says there is
20
a high probability of loss but the amount and the
21
timing cannot be ascertained.
22
23
Q
When you got involved -- strike that.
When Special Asset Groups got involved
24
with the Fontainebleau project, it was at a risk
25
rating of 8?
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A
I believe that's correct.
2
Q
Ultimate -- subsequently it was moved
3
to Risk Rating 9?
4
A
Yes.
5
Q
This was within the first quarter of
7
A
I believe so.
8
Q
I take it it's 10 now?
9
A
It's 11.
10
Q
Eleven. · ·
11
A
Or loss.
6
'09?
12
Well, let me correct that. Sorry. It
13
was 10 and 11, because it was not a total loss.
14
Mr. Icahn did put in some money, so there was some
15
recoveries.
16
Q
17
At what level -- strike that.
Do you know how the bank carried its
18
loans on its books for Fontainebleau Las Vegas when
19
you got involved?
20
MR. CANTOR: Object to the form. You
21
can answer.
22
A
23
Q
24
25
Yeah, I mean it was 8.
In terms of how it marked it on its
books.
A
That is actually a very complicated
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question, so I'm going to take a few minutes to
2
explain.
3
The bank can hold funded loan amounts
4
in a couple of ways. One is to mark it to market
5
and one is based on what is called Financial
6
Accounting Standard 114, which is a discounted cash
7
flow analysis. Both of those only apply to --
8
primarily to funded outstandings. When I got
9
involved, there was no funded outstandings on
10
Fontainebleau Las Vegas. We only had approximately
11
$13 million of letters of credit outstanding, and
12
you do not mark unfunded undrawn letters of credit,
13
to market, it's just not done. That I am aware of.
14
So it was basically just a risk rating-based system.
15
FAS 114 also applies primarily to
16
funded outstandings. Because in the case of letters
17
of credit you don't even know when it's going to be
18
drawn, if ever. So you can't really do a discounted
19
cash flow. So again, it goes back to, it was just a
20
risk rating.
21
22
Does that answer your question?
Q
I just want to make sure you were
23
done. I didn't know if you were pausing or you were
24
done.
25
It does, at least for the period that
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there was unfunded obligations by BofA, but at some
2
point BofA funded, correct?
3
A
BofA funded when the beneficiaries
4
drew on those letters of credit after Fontainebleau
5
filed bankruptcy I believe.
6
7
Q
BofA funded in February when the
borrower drew down on the revolver, correct?
8
A
9
sorry. Yes.
1O
Q
Okay. At that point --
11
A
BofA drew down in February, that's
12
Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
correct.
13
Q
Actually, the borrower drew down?
14
A
The borrower drew down.
15
Q
BofA funded?
16
A
BofA founded.
17
Q
At that point -- at that point in time
18
how did BofA mark on its books its funded
19
obligation?
20
A
Those funded obligations were drew
21
down in the last week of February, I believe. And
22
was repaid the last week in March I believe. So
23
they were only outstanding for a month, and whatever
24
the risk rating was at that time would have applied.
25
Q
Okay. Let's assume that it was an 8,
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of Special Asset Group involvement?
2
A
Yes, I believe it was around that time
3
that we told Brandon that his own involvement was no
4
longer necessary.
5
Q
Why?
·6
A
Because the commitment was terminated.
7
Q
I don't understand the significance of
8
that in terms of why it would become direct.
9
Actually, I think I do, but I'd like you to explain
10
it.
11
A
As I said before, Fontainebleau was a
12
little unusual in that Brandon stayed on longer than
13
normal. And
14
on the -- worked on the account for a while and we
15
did not want to lose that knowledge and experience
16
administrating the revolver. But once the revolver
17
was terminated, a lot of those duties changed, and
18
then analysts in the Special Assets Group became
19
available, so we, Brendon, was relieved of his
20
responsibilities of continuing to help out in
21
essence the Special Assets Group.
alot of that was because he had worked
22
Q
I think it's Brandon, by the way?
23
A
Brandon. Sorry..
24
Q
Between February when you became
25
involved and April 20 when the revolver was
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terminated, was there an advisory hybrid level of
2
involvement by the Special Asset Group or did you
3
just go straight from advisory to direct?
4
A
No, it went through hybrid. In
5
February and for a certain amount of time I believe
6
in March, Doug Keyston was still the risk officer.
7
So if you remember my definition of advisory to
8
advisor hybrid, the changeover would be the time
9
when I'd go from concurring on credit actions with
1O
Doug as th.e approver to me ticking over as approver
11
and Doug approval no longer would be necessary.
12
Q
Did that happen?
13·
A
I believe it did, yes.
14
Q
When?
15
A
16
Again, I -- my recollection is that it
was sometime in March.
17
Q
Why?
18
A
Because it was becoming more obvious
19
that this was not a business-as-usual deal.
20
Q
21
A
Why was it becoming more obvious?
The·main thing that will stick in my
22
mind, and I remember this point in time, was that
23
when I first started getting involved, I called up
24
Jim Freeman the CFO and asked to meet with Jim and
25
said that I want to come introduce myself, and, by
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the way, I understand that IVI had raised certain
2
questions that have not been answered, so I'd like
3
to come talk to you about those. And Jim basically
4
refused to meet with me, so that to us indicates
5
that it was not business as usual.
6
7
8
Q
What do you mean "not business as
usual'.'?
A
Business as usual would be a situation
9
where the account relationship is still on a very ·
1O
cordial basis and we were still working on an
11
amenable basis with the borrower.
12
Q
It was not just a personality issue,
13
right, I mean it's something more of a business
14
nature that's the business as usual?
15
A
Well, I have never met Jim. I had a
16
very polite call with him. I couldn't -- I mean,
17
that's no reason for it to be a -- a personality
18
issue. When the borrower CFO declined to meet with
19
a bank officer, there's an indication that it's not
20
a usual situation.
21
Q
Something's going on?
22
A
Something's going on.
23
a
And was it that concern by you that
24
something was going on that caused the Special Asset
25
Group involvement to go from advisory to advisory
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hybrid?
2
A
Yes.
3
Q
And was that your recommendation?
4
A
Yes.
5
Q
Was it based on anything more than the
6
CFO's refusal to meet with you, were there other
7
things that went into that decision process?
8
A
Well, you have the whole set of things
9
that were happening at that time with IVI saying
1O
that they were not getting their questions answered.
11
And the fact that the CFO wouldn't even talk to me,
12
again, would indicate that a firmer approach, if you
13
will, may be in order.
14
Q
You say IVI was saying they were not
15
getting questions answered. Did this extend beyond
16
the LEED issue as you understood it in March?
17
18
A
My recollection is that it was mainly
around the LEED issue at that point in time.
19
Q
Mainly other issues also or --
20
A
I don't recall, there might have been
21
22
other issues, but that's the one that comes to mind.
Q
And the -- arid that existed at the
23
time that Special Asset Groups got involved as an
24
advisory level, right?
25
A
Yes.
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a
They go on here, and you don't quote
2
exactly from this page in the -- in your report, but ·
3
they go on to say: Additionally it appears that the
4
LEED credits are tracking behind projections and the
5
developer has begun a detailed audit. IVI will
6
continue to discuss this with the developer. Do you
7
see that?
8
A
Yes.
9
Q
That's the LEED credit issue that you
o
1
previously testified to?
11
A
Yes.
12
Q
And in your Declaration you describe
13
IVi's observation that it appears that the
14
anticipated LEED credits are tracking behind
15
projections possibly in excess of $15 million,
16
correct?
17
A
Yes.
18
Q
Did you understand -- did you have any
19
conversations with IVI concerning their -- the basis
20
behind their concern that the LEED credits were
21
tracking behind projections possibly in excess of
22
$15 million?
23
A
Yes.
24
Q
What did they tell you?
25
A
I do not recall the specifics.
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Q
Do you recall that they told you that
2
the borrower was engaged in an audit of their LEED
3
credits?
4
A
Yes.
5
Q
At this time in January of 2009 --
6
excuse me.
7
A
February.
8
Q
In February of 2009 when you'd first
9
gotten involved.
10
A
11
Q
12
Yes.
Did they indicate to you what that
audit consisted of?
13
A
I do not recall.
14
Q
How long it would take?
15
A
I do not recall.
16
Q
What they anticipated the results to
18
A
I do not recall.
19
Q
Okay. And, as you indicate in your
17
be?
20
Declaration at the bottom of page 10, any LEED
21
credit shortfall would increase the project's cost,
22
correct?
23
MR. CANTOR: Paragraph 10.
24
MR. DILLMAN: What did I say?
25
MR. CANTOR: Page.
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THE WITNESS: Page.
2
MR. DILLMAN: Thank you.
3
A
4
Q
Yes.
In Paragraph 11 you say: On February
5
13 Fontainebleau submitted its February advance
6
request. I show you what's been previously marked
7
as Exhibit 263 is that document, is it not?
8
A
(Reviews.) Yes.
9
Q
This was submitted before or after you
1O
11
became involved, do you recall?
A
It was submitted right around the
12
time, I cannot recall specifically whether it was
13
shortly before or it was shortly after.
14
15
Q
You became aware of it, but -- when
you first became involved; is that fair?
16
A
Yes.
17
Q
The Advance Request is dated February
18
13. Had you seen these kinds of docume.nts before in
19
projects where you had been involved?
20
A
Other projects?
21
Q
Yes, sir.
22
A
No.
23
Q
Before -- well, at some point in
24
February, did you review the Disbursement Agreement
25
and the credit facility for purposes of determining
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that the documentation and sequencing of both
2
funding requests and advance requests?
3
A
4
Q
5
Yes.
So you were familiar with those
shortly after you became involved?
6
A
Yes.
7
Q
And you understood that an Advance
8
Request was provided by the -- by the borrower on
9
certain dates of the month, that funding was to
10
occur on certain dates of the month, and that in
11
between things happened between request and funding?
12
A
Yes.
13
Q
All right.
14
MR. DILLMAN: We are getting to the
15
end of this tape, and I think it's probably a
16
good time to break for lunch, if that's okay.
17
MR. CANTOR: Okay.
18
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: This marks the end
19
of Media No. 2 of the deposition of Mr. Henry
20
Yu. We are off the record at approximately
21
12:20 p.m.
22
(Whereupon, off the record.)
23
(Whereupon, lunch recess.)
24
25
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Q
Told by whom?
2
A
Jim Free·man.
3
Q
Were you told the timeframe in which
4
they would be completed?
5
A
I don't recall.
6
Q
Was it important to you to understand
7
what the amount of the LEED credit issue was?
8
A
Yes.
9
Q
Did you at any point ask Mr. Freeman
1o
to get the audit completed by some date certain so
11
that you would have that info·rmation sooner rather
12
than later?
13
A
I don't recall if we gave him any
14
deadlines but we told him that those should be done
15
as soon as possible.
16 .
Q
Did you indicate to him that funds
17
would be held up unless he got the LEED audit
18
information done before any particular disbursement?
19
A
I don't recall.
20
Q
You don't recall ever having done
21
that, right?
22
A
I don't recall ever stating it in a
23
way that says, if you do not provide this
24
information, it's a default under the agreement so
25
that we can move over funds.
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Q
Did you ever say in sum or substance:
2
Unless and until you provide us this information on
3
the LEED credits, we cannot assess your advance
4
requests sufficient to allow us to authorize
5
disbursements?
6
A
I think it would be accurate to say
7
that that's the kind of communications we were
8
having.
9
Q
The "we" here is you and Mr. Freeman?
10
A
The lender group and Mr. Freeman.
11
Q
I'm talking about you meaning Mr. Yu
12
or BofA. Did you have those conversations with
13
Mr. Freeman?
14
A
I don't recall any specific
15
conversations that just had myself and Jim. But as
16
the steering committee we had those conversations.
17
For example, I believe we would have covered things
18
like that at the March meeting in Las Vegas.
19
20
21
22
23
Q
"Things like that" being the LEED
audit issue?
A
LEEDs audit issue, how the project was
doing in terms of the questions that IVI would have.
Q
And in March did you or anyone in your
24
presence indicate to Mr. Freeman or anyone else at
25
the Fontainebleau Resorts that unless the LEED audit
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issues were determined and resolved, the -- that
2
BofA would not be in a position to properly review
3
and thus recommend disbursements for the month of
4
March?
5
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Assumes facts
6
not in evidence. You can answer.
7
A
I don't recall.
8
Q
You don't recall that conversation
9
10
11
ever having occurred?
A
I don't recall whether a conversation
in those terms occurred.
12
Q
Sum or substance, sir.
13
A
I recall repeatedly asking Jim to make
14
sure that he supplies IVI with all the information
15
that IVI needed so that they can do a certification.
16
Q
Did you ever tell Mr. Freeman or
17
anyone else in sum or substance that unless the
18
LEEDs audit were completed prior to disbursement, at
19
the time for disbursement, that disbursements
20
couldn't be made because BofA wouldn't have
21
sufficient information to know whether or not the In
22
Balance Report was accurate or not?
23
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Asked and
24
answered. Also lacks foundation and assumes
25
facts not in evidence. Go ahead.
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A
Again, we reminded Mr. Freeman many
2
times that before funds could be disbursed, IVI has
3
to certify the in balance and so he should provide
4
IVI with whatever information IVI asks to be able to
5
do their job.
6
Q
Did the question of LEEDs credits that
7
you testified existed when you first became involved
8
in the Las Vegas facility continue through the time
9
that you, that you BofA, terminated the revolver in
10
late April of 2009?
11
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Go ahead.
12
A
I don't recall.
13
Q
Do you recall the issue of LEED
14
credits ever having been revolved in your mind?
15
A
No.
16
Q
And I believe I asked you this, but to
17
make sure: You're not aware of Fontainebleau ever
18
having completed the audit that IVI referred to in
19
various reports that it issued; is that right?
20
A
· 21
22
23
24
25
Right.
(Letter dated February 12, 2009 marked
as Exhibit 810, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
810, just confirm for me, if you
would, sir, that this is the letter from Chase that
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you previously referred to when you said that there
2
was a letter from Chase that was one of the factors
3
that caused the Special Asset Group --Asset Group
4
to be become involved in the Fontainebleau Las Vegas
5
project?
6
A
7
8
(Reviews.)
That's right.
Q
Okay. Mr. Freeman responded to
9
Mr. Washington's letter on February 20, 2009,
10
correct?
· 11
A
I believe.
12
Q
Excuse me. February 23, 2009.
13
A
14
Q
I'm not, I'm asking you a question.
15
A
I'm sorry, what was the question
16
17
Are you showing me an exhibit?
again?
Q
Mr. Freeman responded to
18
Mr. Washington's letter that we just looked at,
19
Exhibit 498, on February 23, 2009 as reflected in
20
your Declaration at Paragraph 13.
21
A
22
23
24
25
Yes.
(Letter dated February 23, 2009 marked
as Exhibit 811, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
Exhibit 811 is a copy of that
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2
response, correct?
A
3
4
5
(Reviews.)
Yes.
Q
Was that response satisfactory in your
opinion?
6
MR. CANTOR: Objection. You can
7
answer.
8
A
No.
9
Q
Why not?
10
A
Do you want to go line by line?
11
Q
No, in general.
12
13
It didn't address the questions you'd
asked, did it?
14
A
No.
15
Q
Okay.
16
A
And that was not all of them.
17
Q
And that was in general at least part
18
19
20
21
of the problem you had with the letter?
A
That's right, and that's why we kept
asking for more information.
Q
And, in fact, that same day Bank of
22
America sent Fontainebleau a letter requesting a
23
conference call among Fontainebleau and the lenders?
24
A
Yes.
25
Q
And that -- what was Fontainebleau's
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response?
2
3
A
I believe they sent a letter basically
refusing to hold a call.
a
4
Now, you indicated earlier that one of
5
the concerns that you had about Fontainebleau, about
6
the Fontainebleau project arose out of the
7
borrower's failure or refusal to meet with the
8
lenders, do you recall that?
9
A
I said one of the concerns I had was
1o
that they refused to meet with me as opposed to the
11
lenders. I say that because apparently other
12
lenders have met with Fontainebleau.
13
Well, did Mr. Freeman's refusal to
Q
14
meet with you occur before or after your February 23
15
request, BofA's February 23 request to meet with
16
Fontainebleau?
17
A
I believe it was before.
18
Q
Within using the February -- strike
19
that.
20
How long after you became involved
21
with Fontainebleau did Mr. Freeman refuse to meet
22
with you?
23
A
Very soon after.
24
Q
Within days?
25
A
Within days.
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And when Fontainebleau refused to
2
participate in a call with the lenders after the
3
February 23 request, what was BofA's response?
4
5
6
A
We continued to ask for either a
conference call or a meeting.
Q
Did your individual level of concern
7
increase with this additional instance of the
8
borrower refusing to meet with the lenders?
9
A
I don't recall.
1o
a
You indicated that it was a bad sign
11
that borrowers refuse to meet with the lenders,
12
right?
13
A
Right.
1.+
a
Repeated re.fusals to meet with lenders
15
is even worse, right?
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Go ahead.
16
17
18
19
20
A
I think repeated refusals is just
being consistent with the first refusal.
a
Okay. So you saw that as a state of
mind not as a passing fancy?
MR. CANTOR: Object to the form. Go
21
:22
ahead.
23
/\
As I said.• the second refusal is just
24
being consistent with the first refusal, I don't
25
know if that qualifies under the wording that you
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had.
2
Q
Okay. And this second refusal
3
consistent with the first gave you even more
4
concern, right?
5
A
6
Q
It did not reduce my concern.
It showed you that the first one
7
wasn't just a bad day by Mr. Freeman but there
8
seemed to be a pattern of the borrower refusing to
9
meet with the lenders?
1o
A
Refusing to meet with me, yes.
11
Q
And now on February 24th the lender
12
13
group, right?
A
The lender group, asset group. As I
i4
said a few minutes ago, my understanding was that
15
Jim was still meeting individually with lenders.
16
17
Q
In February BofA sent out a request to
draw down on the revolver loan, right?
18
MR. CANTOR: BofA?
19
\'.A. DILLMAN: Excuse me.
20
BY MR. DILLMAN:
21
Q
Fontainebleau.
22
A
Fontainebleau submitted a notice, yes.
23
Q
To draw down on the revolver, not on
24
25
the term loan?
A
You mean the Delay Draw Term Loan?
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BofA to pay back 68 million dollars to the
2
revolvers; is that right?
3
4
5
A
And also to make money available to
the project, yes.
Q
I'm not asking "and also." Right?
6
Now we're just talking about money to the delay
7
draw -- to the revolvers.
8
A
Yes.
9
Q
Okay. What events occurred that
10
caused you to conclude in the exercise of your
11
judgment that it was appropriate to pay back the
12
revolvers even though all the delay draw funds
13
hadn't been received?
14
A
If my recollection is correct, out of
15
350 million dollars, about 330 had come in. And at
16
that point in time, for the project to continue, a
17
decision has to be made whether any money should be
18
disbursed. And I made a decision that if all the
19
other conditions required for money to be disbursed
20
were met, such as the IVI certificate, all the
21
events, requests, documents, and all the other
22
conditions have been met, then funds could be
23
released.
24
Q
25
And by funds being released you're
talking about at least in part funds to repay the
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revolver $68 million loan from February?
2
A
Yes.
3
Q
And that decision was made at the same
4
time as the decision that it was proper to release
5
funds that had been requested by the borrower as
6
part of their Advance Request for March?
7
A
Yes, that's my recollection.
8
Q
Okay. And was it your understanding
9
that -- strike that.
1O
11
12
13
Bank of Nevada, they were a revolver
at one point?
A
National -- First National Bank of
Nevada I think.
14
Q
Was a revolver?
15
A
Yes.
16
Q
17
A
That's correct.
18
Q
At some point Bank of America
FDIC repudiated their obligation?
19
concluded that they no longer should be considered
20
to be available funds for purposes of the revolver?
21
A
Yes.
22
Q
In February when the $68 million
23
request from the borrower went out, Bank of Nevada
24
was not considered to be available funds for
25
purposes of funding the project, right?
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A
Right.
2
Q
Who paid their 10 million -- their
3
portion of the 68 million dollar request?
4
A
I don't believe anybody did.
5
Q
So the 68 million minus -- the amount
6
paid was 68 million minus Bank of Nevada's share?
7
A
No. They were not part of --
8
Q
It had to be one or the other.
9
A
No. They were not part of the
10
denominator. So it is 68 million divided by the
11
revolvers that had active commitments at that point
12
in time, which excluded First National Bank of
13
Nevada.
14
Q
Okay. So, in effect, its portion was
15
pro rata allocated among all the revolvers based
16
upon their percentage interest in the -- or their
17
percentage commitment in the revolver?
18
A
When the FDIC repudiated that
19
contract, they were not considered part of the
20
revolver.
21
Q
Right.
22
A
So when -- so it's up to you how you
23
want to describe it, but what happened was they were
24
not part of the denominator.
25
Q
The effective result from that was
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that -- let's just take BofA. BofA paid more with
2
respect to the February 68 million dollar request
3
than it would have paid had Bank of Nevada remained
4
as a revolver lender?
5
A
Yes.
6
Q
And each of the other remaining
7
revolving lenders paid more than they would have?
8
A
Yes.
9
Q
Okay. I put in front of you Exhibit
10
499.
11
12
Is this a document you've seen
previously?
13
A
Yes.
14
Q
It's a draft of the Project Status
15
Report from IVI for the month of February?
16
A
Yes.
17
Q
This draft was sent to you by
18
Mr. Bolio?
19
A
Yes.
20
Q
And he was soliciting comments from
21
the group that included yourself?
22
A
Yes.
23
Q
You reviewed this?
24
A
I believe I did.
25
Q
You understand that IVI subsequently
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issued a Project Status Report No. 22?
2
3
4
A
I don't recall, but I believe they
Q
And with respect to your Declaration
did.
5
at Paragraph 18, you indicate that that Report No.
6
22 stated that, quote: The anticipated contingency
7
summary anticipates a balance contingency of
8
$15,545,000. However, IVI is concerned that the
9
anticipated balance may drop substantially in order
1O
to meet the aggressive schedule. This is of concern
11
specifically as all of the subcontractors have not
12
fully disclosed the potential cost to meet the
13
schedule.
14
15
You were aware that this was a concern
of IVl's in late February of 2009? Yes?
16
A
17
Q
18
Yes.
In fact, this remained, continued to
be a concern of IVl's from January of '09, right?
19
A
Yes.
20
Q
You were also aware that as stated
21
below IVI remained concerned that all the
22
subcontractor claims have not been fully
23
incorporated into the report and potential
24
acceleration impact to meet the schedule has not
25
beenincluded?
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A
Yes.
2
Q
You were also aware that IVI remained
3
concerned that the LEED credits are tracking behind
4
projections and that the amount disclosed by the --
5
by the developer had not yet been audited?
6
A
Yes.
7
Q
And you also were aware that the work
8
on the podium would need to be accelerated to meet
9
the aggressive target for that part of the project?
10
A
Yes.
11
Q
And when we talk about acceleration
12
that means more costs, right?
13
A
Most likely.
14
Q
Because in order to build things
15
quicker, you need to have more people and more
16
overtime, right?
17
A
Most likely.
18
Q
Well, when you talk about acceleration
19
costs and construction, that's what you're referring
20
to, aren't you?
21
A
Yes.
22
Q
So each of these items would result
23
potentially in an increase in the anticipated cost
24
to complete the construction of the project?
25
A
Yes.
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2
3
4
(Letter dated March 3, 2009 marked as
Exhibit 813, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Okay. You mentioned earlier funding
Q
5
requests made by the borrower in -- in early March.
6
Exhibit 813 is the initial funding request submitted
7
by Fontainebleau Resorts to Bank of America on March
8
3, 2009.
9
A
10
Q
11
12
Yes.
Bank of America took issue with this
request, correct?
A
Can we backtrack? Are you saying that
13
this exhibit is what Fontainebleau sent Bank of
14
America?
15
Q
16
I'm sorry. This is what Bank of
America sent to Fontainebleau.
17
A
18
Q
Yes.
I misspoke.
19
You disagreed with the request for
20
the -- that Fontainebleau had made for the reasons
21
set forth in Exhibit 813?
22
MR. CANTOR: Object to the form. You
23
can answer.
24
A
Could you repeat the question?
25
Q
Sure.
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MR. DILLMAN: Read it back.
2
(Whereupon, the requested portion was
3
read back by the Reporter:
4
"Question: You disagreed with the
5
request that Fontainebleau had made for the
6
reasons set forth in Exhibit 813?")
7
A
The letter says what it says.
8
Q
Were you involved in the decision to
9
send this letter to Fontainebleau?
10
A
Yes.
11
Q
And the decision was that
12
Fontainebleau's submission on March 3, 2009 had not
13
been appropriate, right?
14
A
Right.
15
Q
And you were not going to process the
16
notice on behalf of the other lenders, right?
17
A
Right.
18
Q
And the reason that you considered it
19
to be not appropriate was for the reasons set forth
20
in this letter?
21
A
Right.
22
Q
Now, before you made that -- strike
23
that.
24
Shortly after the March 3rd letter,
25
you sent a letter to Mr. Freeman. And if I can find
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a sticker, I'm going to put it in front of you and
2
confirm that.
3
4
5
(Letter dated March 4, 2009 marked as
Exhibit 814, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
6
Q
Correct?
7
A
Yes.
8
Q
And Exhibit 814 is that letter?
9
A
Yes.
10
Q
11
A
Yes.
12
Q
You start off by saying: I'm an
Dated March 4, 2009?
13
officer within Bank of America Special Asset Group
14
with responsibility for Fontainebleau Nevada. The
15
tone of the letter makes it sound like you and he
16
had never spoken before. Is -- that wouldn't be
17
correct, would it?
18
A
That would not be correct.
19
Q
Okay. You go on to say: We have
20
formed an ad hoc steering committee with other
21
lenders under the Credit Agreement constituting a
22
majority in interest of the lenders under the Credit
23
Agreement. The ad hoc steering committee was
24
comprised of whom, do you recall?
25
A
I can name certain members, I don't
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know if I can name the complete list. So it would
2
include Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Deutsche
3
Bank, Highland Capital, and maybe there are others.
4
5
Q
You say in your letter that all of
the -- excuse me.
6
You say: The Steering Committee
7
unanimously concurred that your loan notice does not
8
conform to the requirements of the Credit Agreement.
9
Do you see that?
10
A
Yes.
11
Q
That wasn't exactly true at the time,
12
was it?
13
A
It was true.
14
Q
Highland didn't agree, did they?
15
A
It did.
16
Q
Do you recall Kevin Rourke sending you
17
an e-mail saying Highland was taking no position one
18
way or the other with respect to the position of
19
BofA in its March 3rd letter?
20
A
That e-mail arrived after I send this
21
letter. Kevin had a conference call when we
22
discussed the issue was in concurrence.
23
Q
Did you at any point -- and when did
24
the e-mail arrive that Mr. -- Mr. Rourke -- in which
25
Mr. Rourke told you that he was taking no position
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one way or the other?
2
A
I do not recall, but I recall that it
3
was after I sent this letter, otherwise, I would not
4
have said unanimous.
5
6
Q
You again call for a meeting with
Mr. Freeman in Exhibit 814?
7
A
Yes.
8
Q
What was his response?
9
A
I don't recall, but it should be in my
10
Declaration.
11
Q
You don't recall sitting here?
12
A
I'm sorry?
13
a
Sitting here you don't recall what his
14
response was?
15
A
I don't specifically recall, no.
16
Q
Okay. We'll get there.
In your letter to him you attach a
17
18
list of topics that you want to discuss with him at
19
a lender meeting, do you see that?
20
A
Yes.
21
a
Many of the same topics that you
22
previously or that were previously set forth in
23
a
letter to Mr. Freeman?
24
A
Yes.
25
Q
Had you at this point received
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adequate answers in your opinion to these questions?
2
A
Well, the fact that these question's
3
are still here means that we have not received
4
adequate answers.
5
Q
Exhibit 602. Sorry. Is a l_etter that
6
same day from IVI to Mr. Bolio that is update to
7
supplement information provided in the Project
B
Status Report No. 22. Why was a, if you know, why
9
was a supplement provided only days after the
1O
Project Status Report was issued?
11
A
The way the schedule works is that the
12
monthly report reflects events of the month before,
13
but IVI continues to have conversations with
14
Fontainebleau. So if they found out anything that
15
they think is material, subsequent to the issuance
16
of the report, they bring it to our attention.
17
Q
And is it your understanding that IVI
18
did in fact have a meeting with Fontainebleau after
19
the date of its Status Report No. 22 and prior to
20
the date of this letter?
21
22
A
Yes. At -- I .think it's dated in
Paragraph 2 in this letter.
23
a
The date of the meeting?
24
A
Yes, March 1st and 2nd.
25
a
Were you at that meeting?
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A
No.
2
Q
Other than this letter, did you
3
receive any download of what occurred at that
4
meeting?
5
A
I don't recall.
6
Q
Did you talk with Mr. Barone
7
concerning the issues set forth in his Status Report
8
No. 22?
9
A
Yes.
1O
Q
Did you talk with Mr. Bonvicino?
11
A
Yes.
12
Q
Did you talk to them about the issues
13
set forth in their supplement which is Exhibit 602?
14
15
Yes.
A
Q
Did you understand after talking with
16
them that the LEEDs issues still hadn't been
17
resolved?
13
A
That's correct.
19
Q
And that they still believed there was
20
a $15 million decrease in credits that wasn't being
'21
reported?
22
A
Yes.
23
Q
Or shortfall of credits?
'.24
A
Yes.
25
Q
Exhibit 604.
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2
On March 5th, 2009 you wrote to Mr. -excuse me -- Mr. Barone wrote to Mr. Kumar, correct?
3
A
Was there a question?
4
Q
There was, but that's okay. I thought
5
you were reading the letter so I didn't want to
6
interrupt your concentration.
7
A
Oh, sorry.
8
Q
On March 5th Mr. Barone sent a letter
9
to Mr. Kumar, correct?
10
A
Correct.
11
Q
You received that letter?
12
A
(Reviews.)
13
Q
Whether you were copied on it or were
14
a recipient, you in fact received it in connection
15
with your duties on behalf of Bank of America for
16
the Fontainebleau project?
17
A
Yeah, I believe I did.
18
Q
And you're certainly familiar with the
19
letter, right?
20
A
21
letter?
22
Q
23
Am I sitting here familiar with the
Or you were familiar with it when you
wrote your Declaration --
24
A
Right.
25
Q
-- on July 1st, 2007, right?
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A
Right.
2
Q
Okay. And at that time you
3
specifically noted at the bottom of page 1 IVl's
4
conclusion that there appears to be a delay in the
5
execution of owner change orders which it seems to
6
have gotten larger recently. Do you see that?
7
A
Yes.
8
Q
That's not a good thing, is it?
9
A
No.
10
Q
It means that the budget for the
11
12
13
14
project is going up?
A
I don't specifically recall whether I
drew such a conclusion, but it was not a good thing.
Q
Well, if there's additional owner
15
change orders that haven't been previously disclosed
16
and that means that the anticipated costs for
17
completion are going to go up, not down, right?
MR. CANTOR: Objection. You can
18
19
answer.
20
A
If you read the sentence here it says:
21
There appears to be a delay in the execution of
22
owner change orders.
23
Q
Yes.
24
A
That does not necessarily mean that
25
those owner change orders have not been floating
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around but that they just have not been executed.
·2
Q
Okay. Well, it was your understanding
3
that IVI was aware of these change orders but they
4
just hadn't been executed?
5
A
I believed what IVI was saying was
6
that they were seeing that there was certain owner
7
change orders that were getting delayed in
8
execution, yes.
9
Q
And that IVI had not previously seen?
1O
A
I don't recall if that's the way it
11
was.
12
Q
You don't?
13
A
I mean, I don't recall if it is a fact
14
that IVI had not seen owner change orders or whether
15
IVI has seen the owner change orders but that they
16
were just not executed. Executed meaning I -- I
17
read it as say someone signed it.
18
Q
All right. Not seeing the change
19
orders would be certainly worse than having seen
20
them but just not having seen a signature on them,
21
wouldn't you agree?
22
A
I would agree.
23
Q
Because if there's a delay in
24
presenting change orders to IVI that means there's
25
going to be a delay in the lender's understanding of
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2
Did you have a better more full
understanding of this back in 2009?
3
A
I don't recall.
4
Q
Did you do anything to try and get a
5
better understanding of it?
6
7
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
As I said, we repeatedly asked
8
Fontainebleau to make sure that they supply IVI with
9
all the information that IVI needs, and if that
1O
included why the worst case seems to be what it is,
11
they have to explain it to IVI.
12
Q
Okay. No, my question was: Did you
13
do anything to get a better understanding of what
14
this sentence that I just read meant, and that would
15
be an understanding from Mr. Barone since he wrote
16
the sentence?
17
A
I do not recall.
18
Q
Okay. So when it says "all the
19
anticipated additional costs have now been included
20
in TCW's latest requisition as a credit entry
21
labeled TW Construction Commitments Against POCs.
22
You didn't have any independent understanding of the
23
significance of that; is that right?
24
25
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
Are you saying me sitting here today
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or at that point in time?
2
Q
At that point in time.
3
A
I do not recall.
4
Q
Okay. Sitting here today.
5
A
Sitting here today, again, it's an
6
elaboration in a sense of what the previous
7
sentences said.
8
Q
Okay. Is it a good thing or a bad
9
thing that the anticipated additional costs have
10
been included in TWC's latest requisition? Is that
11
.generally a good thing for the bank or a bad thing
12
for the bank in the context of this facility?
13
14
A
Generally it would not be a good thing
that there's no additional contingency.
15
Q
And that's how you read this?
16
A
Yes.
17
Q
Okay. And he goes on to say: It
18
seems that TWC -- you understand that was Turnberry
19
West Construction?
20
A
Yes.
21
Q
The contractor on the project?
22
A
Yes.
23
Q
Has already committed all the
24
anticipated additional costs into their project as
25
subcontractor change orders in Fontainebleau Las
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Vegas has not signed the owner change orders. Do
2
you see that?
3
4
A
second paragraph?
MR. CANTOR: No.
5
6
7
8
9
You mean the first sentence of the
Yes, sir. The second-to-last sentence
Q
of the top paragraph.
A
Second-to-last sentence of the first
paragraph?
10
Q
Yeah.
11
A
Okay, I see that.
12
Q
It seems that TWC has already
13
committed all the anticipated additional costs. Do
14
you see that?
15
A
Yes.
16
Q
Do you have an understanding sitting
17
18
19
here today the significance of that?
A
I don't know what you mean by
"significance."
20
Q
What does it mean?
21
A
It says what it says.
22
Q
Is it a good thing or bad thing for
23
the bank?
24
A
25
As I said before, if that leaves no
room for additional contingencies, it's not a good
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thing.
2
Q
And he goes on to say that this leads
3
us to believe that FBLB and TWC are not on the same
4
page with respect to the owner change orders, which
5
needs to be resolved, and that the entire picture
6
regarding additional pending costs are not being
7
fully shown. Do you see that?
8
A
9
Q
10
Yes.
Now, that's a bit terrifying for a
bank, isn't it?
11
A
It is definitely a concern.
12
Q
And this was not the first time this
13
concern had been expressed by Mr. Barone, this was a
14
theme that he was banging on from the beginning of
15
2009 forward.
16
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
17
Q
Right?
18
A
I don't know -- let me reword that.
19
My recollection is that Barone's
20
concerns evolved over time, so I don't know if
21
that's his view from the beginning of 2009.
22
23
Q
Fair enough. They evolved and
increased his level of concern, right?
24
A
25
Q
That would be accurate.
Okay. And Mr. Barone at one point
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talked about doing an audit of the change orders for
2
the project, do you recall that?
3
A
Yes.
4
Q
Did you discuss how much that might
6
A
I do not recall.
7
Q
Or how long it would take?
8
A
I do not recall.
9
Q
Okay. You understood it would be a
5
10
be?
matter of weeks, not months?
11
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Lacks
12
foundation.
13
A
I do not recall.
14
Q
Okay. We'll get there in a minute
15
where Mr. Barone says it would be weeks.
Did you ever consider on behalf of
16
17
BofA as the agent on this facility to say "we're not
18
going to do any disbursements on this until we get
19
to the bottom of these questions"?
20
A
My recollection is that we kept
21
reminding Jim Freeman and Fontainebleau that they
22
had to supply IVI with all the information that IVI
23
needed to be able to issue IVl's certificate. And
24
that IVI certificate is one of the conditions for
25
funding.
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Q
You knew that IVI had and continued to
2
have concerns about the -- about the information
3
that it wasn't being shown through April of 2009,
4
right?
5
6
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
I believe the picture changed
7
considerably in April, so I think you may need to
8
describe the phase between, let's say February and
9
March differently from what happened in April.
10
Q
You knew that IVI certainly up through
11
t.he end of March, maybe April is a different set of
12
factors, but up through the end of March IVI
13
continued to have concerns that the entire picture
14
regarding additional pending costs were not being
15
fully shown?
16
A
Throughout March IVI was concerned and
17
Bank of America was concerned and we kept asking
18
Fontainebleau to make sure that they supply IVI with
19
all the information they needed to do their job.
20
Q
Okay. Well, the borrower was the one
21
that was not showing stuff to IVI, that's the
22
concern that Mr. -- that Mr. Barone had was that the
23
borrower was not coming clean, right?
24
25
A
IVI is expressing a concern that they
may not be getting all the information they needed.
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Q
Okay. So simply asking the borrower,
2
"please give them all the inforr:nation," when Barone
3
has been saying for some time "they're not giving it
4
to me," cause you some level of distrust--
5
A
Yes.
6
Q
-- and concern about the integrity of
7
the borrower?
8
A
What do you mean by integrity?
9
Q
Some distrust of the borrower, let's
1O
11
12
13
put it that way.
A
We were concerned that the borrower is
not giving IVI all the information IVI needed.
Q
Right. And so simply saying to
14
somebody who you don't trust, do the right thing,
15
might not necessarily-result in the right thing
16
being done, right?
17
18
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
Argumentative.
19
You can answer, if you can find a
20
question in there.
21
A
22
23
Are you suggesting -- I don't know
what you're suggesting or asking.
Q
Okay. Was there anything preventing
24
BofA as far as you understood it from saying we're
25
not going to disburse funds, and unless and until we
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get to the bottom of these concerns that IVI has
2
expressed and the way that's going to be done is
3
with an audit of the change orders as Mr. Barone has
4
suggested?
5
6
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Calls for a
legal conclusion.
7
You can answer, to the best of your
8
understanding.
9
A
The documents describe what is
10
supposed to happen. We did our best to follow what
11
the documents say.
12
Q
Did you understand that you were
13
required, obligated under the documents to disburse
14
funds even if you had a level of concern and
15
distrust over whether or not the borrower was being
16
forthright in the amount of change orders that it
17
was presenting to your construction consultant?
18
19
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Calls for a
legal conclusion.
20
You can answer to the extent you had
21
an understanding.
22
A
The documents say what they say. The
23
way you phrased it was, do you have an obligation to
24
do certain things when you have a certain level of
25
distrust, I think you have to read the documents if
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that's the way the documents state it. I don't
2
believe that's the way the documents are stated.
3
Q
How do you believe -- what did you
4
understand at the time that you were the Special
5
Asset Group Senior Vice President on this credit,
6
did you understand that BofA had an obligation to
7
disburse funds in March of 2009, even if it had
8
concerns regarding the honesty of the borrower and
9
whether or not it had disclosed all of the
10
information that it had to your construction
11
consultant?
12
A
My understanding was that there were a
13
number o.f conditions that have to be met, including
14
the consultant issuing a certificate, and if all
15
those conditions are met, including the construction
16
consultant certificate, then the documents say we're
17
supposed to do what we're supposed to do.
18
Q
And if BofA had concerns that the
19
borrower was not being honest, was not being
20
forthright in the information that was provided and
21
yet there was a construction consultant certificate
22
that was signed off on, is it your testimony that
23
BofA was nonetheless obligated to disburse?
24
25
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Calls for a
legal conclusion. It's an incomplete
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hypothetical.
2
3
4
5
Go ahead, give it a shot.
A
The documents laid out our legal
duties and I'd just refer you back to the documents.
Q
I'm talking about Mr. Henry Yu who was
6
the BofA man on the scene, so to speak, for Special
7
Asset Groups at the time. The man who made the
8
decision to disburse. Right? Isn't that right?
9
A
That's correct.
10
Q
Okay. When you made the decision to
11
disburse, was it your understanding that despite any
12
concerns regarding -- relating to the honesty of the
13
borrower and whether or not they were being
14
forthright in the production of information, that
15
you nonetheless were obligated to fund to
16
disburse -- excuse me -- so long as you had, among
17
other things, a construction certificate signed off
18
by the construction consultant?
19
20
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Go ahead.
A
Our legal obligations are laid out in
21
the documents. We acted in accordance to what
22
documents say were our responsibilities.
23
Q
Right, and that's not my question. My
24
question was: Was it your understanding, Mr. Henry
25
Yu, wherever that understanding came from, the
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documents or otherwise, that you, that BofA was
2
obligated to disburse funds, despite any concerns it
3
might have had about the honesty of the borrower and
4
whether or not full information was being provided,
5
so long as the various documents, including a
6
construction consultant certificate, were received?
7
A
8
We're-MR. CANTOR: Objection. Same
9
objections. Go ahead.
10
A
We're going around in circles. You
11
have asked your question many times. I have given
12
you my answer many times. We can keep doing this or
13
we can move on.
14
Q
15
told me --
16
17
You haven't given me an answer. You
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
Q
-- to look to the documents. Okay?
18
I'm asking you, Mr. Henry Yu, without recourse of
19
the documents or anything else, whatever your
20
understanding was, you can tell me you didn't have
21
an understanding, I don't know what it was.
22
Was it your understanding in late
23
March of 2009 that when you made the decision to
24
disburse, that you were obligated to disburse given
25
what you had received from the construction
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consultants and otherwise, even if you had a concern
2
about the honesty of the borrower and about the
3
completeness of the information the borrower had
4
provided?
5
6
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
Again, I think we've covered this
7
question many times. I'm not changing my answer.
8
You can keep asking the same question and I'm going
9
to keep giving you the same answer.
10
11
Q
Except you keep pointing to the
documents.
12
A
Right.
13
Q
Is that--
14
MR. CANTOR: He believes he's given
15
you an answer. If you disagree, you can go
16
to the court.
17
18
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
I'm asking your understanding, I'm not
19
asking what the document say. Your understanding,
20
Henry Yu's understanding.
21
A
My understanding is that the documents
22
say, laid out a set of conditions of, if all those
23
conditions are met, our obligation is to fund
24
according to the documents. The document doesn't
25
say, if there's an earthquake in Japan, you don't
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have to do it, or if there's a tsunami, you don't
2
have to do it. The documents say what it says.
3
4
Q
All right. And, to the extent that
the documents don't say and -- strike that.
5
And unless the documents said
6
something about BofA's conclusion as to the
7
integrity and honesty and forthrightness of the
8
borrower, that was not a consideration that you
9
would take into account; fair statement?
10
11
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
If you are positing a hypothetical
12
that says: One of the conditions is that you have
13
to totally trust the borrower and there's no trace
14
of doubt about any information that the borrower
15
gave us, that's a totally hypothetical that you have
16
just inserted into the process.
17
Q
That's not my question, sir.
18
A
Again, I'm going back to, we followed
19
20
what was in the documents.
Q
Okay. And was it your understanding
21
that the borrower's integrity entered into that at
22
all unless, except as otherwise expressly stated in
23
the documents?
24
25
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
The documents say what it says, and we
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read our obligations as what the documents say.
2
3
MR. DILLMAN: All right. Let's take a
break.
4
MR. CANTOR: Okay.
5
MR. DILLMAN: We have to change the
6
tape.
7
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: This marks the end
8
of Media No. 3 of the deposition of Mr. Henry
9
Yu. We are off the record at approximately
10
2:52 p.m.
11
(Whereupon, offthe record.)
12
(Whereupon, resumed.)
13
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
14
record at approximately 3:01 p.m., and this
15
marks the beginning of Media No. 4 of the
16
deposition of Mr. Henry Yu.
17
18
(Letter dated March 6, 2009 marked as
Exhibit 815, as of this date.)
19
20
21
22
(Letter dated March 9, 2009 marked as
Exhibit 816, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
Mr. Yu, I've placed in front of you
23
Exhibit 815. It's a letter from Mr. Freeman to
24
yourself dated March 6, 2009. This followed upon a
25
request by you to meet with Fontainebleau, correct?
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A
Yes.
2
Q
And in this letter Mr. Freeman says
3
he's not going to meet with you until basically you
4
agree to fund his -- the revolver commitment that
5
they set on March 3rd, something like that, right?
6
A
Something like that, right.
7
Q
He says: Once funding has occurred,
8
we will welcome the opportunity to meet with the
9
representatives of all constituents of lenders to
10
discuss the project and to resume the working
11
relationship we've always enjoyed with the lenders.
12
What was your reaction to his refusal to meet?
13
A
I don't recall.
14
Q
It wasn't exactly what you thought on
15
an appropriate borrower response was to a request by
16
a lender to meet, was it?
17
A
No.
18
Q
Shortly after that, Mr. Freeman
19
submitted a revised notice of borrowing requesting
20
$350 million from the delay draw term lenders but no
21
component from the revolvers, right?
22
A
Right.
24
Q
And Exhibit 815 is that request?
25
A
Sixteen.
23
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2
MR. CANTOR: 16.
Q . ·816. Oh, thank you.
Correct, 816 is that request?
3 ·
4
A
Yes.
5
Q
Bank of America concluded that this
6
was an appropriate request?
MR. CANTOR: Object to
·7
8
A
1O
·Q
form. Go
ahead, you can answer.
9
th~
The lenders did.
Bank of America processed the request,
11
right?
12
A
Yes.
13
Q
Bank of America refused to process the
14
request on March 3rd for the reasons set forth in
15
the letter from Mr. Washington, correct?
16
A
Correct.
17
Q
All right. This request Bank of
18
America did process and at least in part was paid by
19
some of the delay draw term lenders, correct?
20
A
Yes.
21
Q
A subset of delay draw term lenders .
22
did not pay· in March, right?
23
A
Yes.
24
Q
That included Z Capital and a series
25
of funds that were managed by Guggenheim? .
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A
Yes.
2
Q
The total amount of those unpaid
·3
amounts in March was approximately $21,666,000?
4
A
That sounds about right.
5
Q
Indeed z Capital for 11,666,000 never
6
paid; is that right?
7
A·
That's right.
8
Q
And the Guggenheim funds aggregating
9
$10 million paid.at some point in early to mid
10
April?
11
A
12
My recollection would be early April
or late March.
13
Q
After March 25th one way or the other?
14
A
Right.
t5
Q
Mr. Freemijn's refusal to meet with ·
16
17
18 .
your letter to him dated March 1 of 2009? · ·2009.
O
· MR. CANTOR: You can give us that
version.
19
MR. DILLMAN: Huh?
20·
MR. CANTOR: You can give us that
21
22 .
23
24
version.
MR. DILLMAN: It wouldn't of
much~
help, believe me. Just to show you.
MR. CANTOR: Been there, done that.
25
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BY MR. DILLMAN:
2
Q
3
Exhibit 819.
4
A
And that letter is -- we've marked as
(Reviews.)
5
That's right.
6
(Letter dated March 10, 2009 marked as
7
Exhibit 819, as of this date.)
8
9
MR. DILLMAN: Now, I will note for the
record --
10
MR. CANTOR: 817.
11
MR. DILLMAN: No, I marked it 819
12
because --
13
MR. CANTOR: On purpose, okay.
14
MR. DILLMAN: -- because the reporter
15
goes down with the numbers -- excuse me --
16
across with the numbers, I typically go down.
17
MR. CANTOR: Okay.
18
MR. DILLMAN: We'll catch up to it
19
sooner or later.
20
21
22
23
MR. CANTOR: Got it.
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
And that was your letter to
Mr. Freeman?
24
A
Yes.
25
Q
Is that right?
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Now, in this letter March 10th you
2
indicate that the determination that the Notices of
3
Borrowing did not comply with the terms of the
4
Credit Agreement was unanimously supported by the
5
members of the Steering Committee, and you list
6
those as including Highland Capital, right?
7
A
Yes.
8
Q
Now, as of March 10, you had received
9
Mr. York's -- Rourke's -- excuse me -- e-mail saying
1O
that Highland Capital had not agreed and, in fact,
11
taking no position on whether or not BofA was
12
correct in its assessment of the March 3rd funding?
13
A
The sentence says "was unanimously,"
14
and I believe I was referring to the March 4th
15
letter I sent to Mr. Freeman.
16
At this date you knew it was not
Q
17
Highland's position that they had supported that,
18
right?
19
A
20
I don't recall, but the sentence here
referred to March 4th.
21
Q
You don't recall what?
22
A
I don't recall if on March 10th --
23
Q . You don't recall what?
24
A
25
sentence.
I was -- I have not finished my
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Q
Yeah, I know.
2
A
I don't recall on March 10th where we
3
were with Highland.
4
5
6
7
(E-mail Exchange sent 3/14/2009 marked
as Exhibit 817, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
Well, let's look at 817, which was a
8
March 4 e-mail from Mr. Rourke to yourself, in which
9
Mr. Rourke states at the bottom: Finally, Highland
1O
does not express any opinion on the legal
11
interpretation of the Credit Agreement that was
12
attributed to the ad hoc Steering Committee in your
13
letter to the company. Do you see that?
14
A
Yes.
15
Q
And you understood that he was
16
referring here to your letter to the company
17
indicating that BofA would not process the March 3rd
18
request?
19
A
Right. And as you just read, he
20
referred to a letter that I sent, so again that's
21
why I think my memory was correct that I got this
22
after I sent the letter.
23
Q
24
A
25
Q
Sure, you got it on March 4th?
Yes.
Now on March 1Oth you said, you told
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Mr. Freeman that there was unanimous consent
2
unanimously supported by the members of the Steering
3
Committee the decision to not process the March
4
3rd --
5
A
Yes.
6
Q
-- request, right?
7
A
On March 4th.
8
Q
On the March 4th what?
9
A
I was just adding to your sentence.
10
You said on March 10th you told Mr. Freeman that
11
there was unanimous support of that determination
12
and I said I was referring to March 4th, not March
13
10th. You kept going to March 10th and I kept
14
pointing you to March 4th.
15
16
Q
consent, was there?
17
A
18
Q
19
20
The fact was there wasn't unanimous
The fact was on March 4th it was.
Because Highland said yes and then
changed its mind?
A
When I sent the letter, I have not
21
gotten this communication from Mr. Rourke. So when
22
I sent my letter, it was unanimous, past tense.
23
Q
Because Mr. Rourke --
24
A
I can't go back and correct something
25
that was sent, no, that was not re-sent.
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2
3
4
Q
On March 4th that very same day
Mr. Rourke said "by the way, I don't unanimously
. consent," right?
A
Whatever time this was, yes, that was
5
his statement. And, as I pointed out to you, I was
6
referring to the letter that I sent him on March
7
4th, which was before I got this one.
8
9
Q
You were referring to that in the
March 10 letter?
10
A
Yes.
11
Q
Don't you think it's a little
12
misleading to tell Mr. Freeman on March 10th six
13
days after Mr. Rourke had said "I don't consent,"
14
that the determination that these notices of
15
borrowing did not comply with the terms of the
16
credit agreement was unanimously supported by the
17
members of th.e Steering Committee?
18
19
20
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
Q
Don't you think that's a little
misleading?
21
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
22
Argumentative.
23
Q
24
25
Just a little?
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
I believe I was stating what was the
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state of affairs at the time I sent the March 4th
2
letter.
3
Q
And you don't find anything misleading
4
then in your letter to Mr. Freeman; is that right?
5
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Asked and
6
answered.
7
A
8
9
10
You have to ask Mr. Freeman whether it
was misleading.
Q
You don't find anything about it
misleading; is that right?
11
A
I don't.
12
Q
Now, Mr. -- your letter to Mr. Freeman
13
demanding a meeting in Las Vegas on March 17th,
14
that's the Exhibit 819, attaches the identical or at
15
least very similar set of issues that had been now
16
attached to at least one, or perhaps two other
17
letters, right?
18
A
Right.
19
Q
Is it safe to say then that as of
20
March 10, 2009 you in your mind didn't have
21
sufficient answers to these questions?
22
A
That's right.
23
Q
And shortly thereafter on March 11
24
Fontainebleau submits an Advance Request that's been
25
marked as 264 and placed in front of you, right?
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A
Right.
2
Q
And that request sought an amount of
3
137,925,000 and change. It says, "retail amount
4
requested zero," do you know why that was?
5
A
I don't recall.
6
Q
Did you have an understanding as to
7
whether or not retail facility was required to pay
8
shared costs in some amount in connection with this
9
Advance Request?
10
11
12
A
I don't recall what the retail share
cost was in March.
Q
And what role did you have, if any, in
13
determining whether or not this Advance Request --
14
strike that -- whether or not funds should be
15
disbursed as requested by this Advance Request?
16
A
What my role was was to make sure that
17
Brandon Bolio and Jeanne Brown have all the
18
information that they normally would require
19
including, for example, the certificate from IVI and
20
other reports that are required out of the project
21
before said requests can be approved. But I did not
22
personally look at all the reports.
23
Q
What team at Bank of America -- I
24
don't mean a formal team -- but what group of
25
people, other than yourself, Mr. Bolio and
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Ms. Brown, were responsible for determining any
2
aspect of whether or not the Advance Request should
3
be funded?
4
A
Other thari the teams at Jeanne Brown's
5
unit and at Brandon's unit, because I don't know if
6
Brandon has any administrative help at his unit. At
7
Bank of America would be myself and at times we
8
would consult with in-house counsel.
9
Q
Okay, is that it?
10
A
11
Q
12
A
That's it.
.13
Q
You recall that there was, as with all
Yes.
In terms of the team?
14
advance requests and In Balance Report that was
15
provided by the borrower?
16
A
Yes.
17
Q
That In Balance Report showed a
18
19
positive in balance of $42 million approximately?
A
20
21
22
23
24
25
Yes.
(In Balance Report dated February 28,
2009 marked as Exhibit 818, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
Exhibit 818 is that In Balance Report
submitted with the March 11 Advance Request, right?
A
Yes.
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Now after or around the time that this
Q
2
Advance Request was submitted, the borrower
3
conditionally agreed to meet; do you recall that?
4
A
Yes.
5
Q
Conditioned upon the execution of a
6
7
prenegotiation agreement?
A
8
9
10
11
Correct.
(E-mail Exchange sent 3/11/2009 marked
as Exhibit 820, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
And Exhibit 820 is a copy of the draft
12
prenegotiation agreement that the borrower required
13
as a condition of meeting, yes?
14
A
Yes.
15
Q
What was your reaction to Exhibit 820?
16
A
I did not think it was appropriate.
17
Q
Why not?
18
A
Because it included the concept of a
19
standstill.
20
Q
21
standstill"?
22
A
What do you mean "the concept of a
Well, Section 1 entitled Standstill, I
23
believe, if we signed this document, would limit our
24
actions if we find something out during the meeting
25
that are actionable.
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At any point prior to receiving
2
Exhibit 820, had you or to the best of your
3
knowledge anyone at the Bank of America spoken to
4
Fontainebleau Resorts about defaults or potential
5
defaults under the credit facility?
6
A
I don't recall.
7
Q
Do you have any idea why Fontainebleau
8
Resorts would send you a prenegotiation agreement
9
of -- with a Standstill provision in it, as of this
10
date, March 11, 2009?
11
A
No.
12
Q
Did it strike you as a little strange
13
that here you are asking for a meeting to discuss ·
14
the project and they were saying "you can't use
15
anything we say to -- to bring an action for default
16
against us"?
17
A
I find it objectionable, yes.
18
Q
Did it provide some additional concern
19
that they were -- perhaps there was information that
20
they had that they hadn't fully shared with you?
21
22
23
A
It is a continuation of the behavior
of not providing information, that's correct.
Q
And you refused - "you" being Bank of
24
America and others -- refused to go forward with the
25
meeting conditioned upon execution of this document?
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A
Correct.
2
Q
There were no further negotiations by
3
you with respect to the terms of this agreement, you
4
just rejected it out of hand; is that right?
5
A
We rejected it out of hand, correct.
6
Q
Ultimately you did meet with the
7
8
9
borrower on March 17?
A
believe it was March 20.
(Letter dated March 16, 2009 marked as
10
11
12
13
On or about March 17, yes. In fact, I
Exhibit 821, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
And Exhibit 821 is a letter from you
14
to Mr. Freeman confirming that meeting on -- on --
15
excuse me -- March 20th, right?
16
A
17
18
(Reviews.)
Yes.
Q
On the second page of Exhibit 821 you
19
say: Finally, we acknowledge receipt of the Advance
20
Request and supporting information last week. That
21
would be the March 11 Advance Request, yes?
22
A
Yes.
23
Q
You go on: We have conducted the
24
general review of the documentation required by
25
Section 2.4.4 of the Master Disbursement Agreement
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to in Paragraph 2 of this Construction Consultant
2
Advance Certificate except as noted in 3.C, D and E
3
above. Right?
4
A
That's right.
5
Q
You understood that according to IVI
6
the errors contained in the March 11 Advance Request
7
called out by them in Paragraphs 3.D, C and E were
8
material?
9
A
Yes.
10
Q
And the same statement is made in I
11
that the undersigned has not discovered any material
12
error in the matter set forth in the current Advance
13
Request or current supporting certificates except as
14
noted in 3.C, D and E?
15
A
16
Q
17
You mean L.
Is that an L? You're right, it is an
L. I need to borrow your glasses for that I think.
18
A
No, I just read K was above, so.
19
Q
The Braille method of reading?
20
21
22
23
MR. CANTOR: Please don't make any
assumptions like that in the future.
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
Now, to your -- well, are you aware of
24
any certificate by IVI over the course of this
25
entire project prior to March 2009 having contained
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statements that in effect IVI believes that there
2
were material errors contained in the Advance
3
Requests submitted by the borrowers?
4
5
A
My recollection is this was the first
time IVI has pointed out this kind of thing.
6
Q
And that was a serious matter?
7
A
Yes.
8
Q
When your construction consultant
9
tells you that the borrower has made material
10
misstatements in its Advance Certificate, you take
11
that seriously?
12
A
13
Yes.
Q
Did you demand an explanation from
14
Fontainebleau as to how and why it made material
15
misstatements to its lenders in the Advance Request?
16
A
Yes.
17
Q
What -- to whom did you direct that
18
question?
19
A
This was dated March 19. We met with
20
many individuals from Fontainebleau the day after,
21
March 20th, and we asked that question to everybody
22
present from Fontainebleau side.
23
Q
What did they say?
24
A
They would work with IVI and make sure
25
that whatever information IVI needed and whatever
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corrections need to be made will be made.
Q
Hadn't the borrower been saying that
3
for now three months that they work with IVI and
4
provide them the information that they needed?
5
6
A
Three months meaning January, February
and March?
7
Q
Yes.
8
A
If your statement was the borrower has
9
not been able to answer some of IVl's questions
10
since January, I believe that was correct.
11
12
MR. DILLMAN: Let's take a quick
break.
13
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is
14
approximately 3:43 p.m., and we are going off
15
the record.
16
(Whereupon, off the record.)
17
(Whereupon, resumed.)
18
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: The time is
19
approximately 3:50 p.m. and we are back on
20
the record.
21
BY MR. DILLMAN:
22
23
Q
Mr. Yu, at some point in this March
period you went on vacation, right?
24
A
I think so.
25
Q
Okay. Let me mark as Exhibit 823,
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just so we can figure the dates out here.
2
3
4
5
(E-mail Exchange dated March 12, 2009
marked as Exhibit 823, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
It's an e-mail from you dated March
6
12, most of it's redacted, but there is a little
7
sliver there that says "By the way, just to make
8
sure you guys know, I will be on vacation from March
9
24 through 27 and will be difficult to get ahold
1O
of." Do you see that?
11
A
Yes.
12
Q
Did you go on that vacation, or were
13
you gone for that period?
14
A
I believe I did.
15
Q
Where'd you go?
16
A
I was playing at the senior nationals.
17
Q
Badminton?
18
A
Badminton.
19
Q
How'd you do?
20
A
I was probably third. I don't
21
remember.
22
Q
23
sorry?
24
A
I was satisfied.
25
Q
I would be too. Of course I'd be
Should I say congratulations or I'm
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satisfied to survive at badminton.
2
After the meeting in Las Vegas,
3
Fontainebleau submitted a second Advance Request for
4
March, do you recall that?
5
A
Yes.
6
Q
And ask you to confirm that Exhibit
7
265 is that second request.
8
A
(Reviews.) Yes.
9
Q
This was submitted on March 24th?
10
A
The date stamp appears to be March
11
23rd.
12
Q
Okay. What are you looking at?
13
A
I'm looking at page 9, the top left
14
corner.
15
Q
The signature pages?
16
A
Yes.
17
Q
And that would -- appears to be a fax
18
dated March 23 of signature from Mr. Freeman, right?
19
A
Yes.
20
Q
Now you say in your Declaration that
21
on March 24 -- this is at Paragraph 33 -- on March
22
24 Fontainebleau revised its Advance Request and
23
supporting documentation. Did you determine at that
24
time that while the fax letter or fax cover here
25
says March 23 that in fact it was submitted on March
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24?
A
3
4
5
(Reviews.)
I cannot recall at this time why
there's a difference between the 23rd and the 24th.
Q
Do you believe that given the fact
6
that you were submitting your Declaration under
7
penalty of perjury to a court that you would have
8
made the necessary -- would have taken the necessary
9
steps to confirm that the date was in fact March
10
24th and therefore do you believe that the date was
11
March 24th?
12
A
Could you repeat your question?
13
Q
Sure. Let me shorten it, how's that?
14
15
16
Based on your declaration, do you
believe the date was March 24th?
A
At the time ofthe declaration, my
17
recollection was the 24th, but looking at it now,
18
according to this date stamp, it appears to be the
19
23rd. Again, I do not recall why I said the 24th.
20
It could be that I did not personally receive it on
21
the 23rd but I got it on the 24th. Again, I think
22
around that time I was either on vacation or about
23
to go on vacation, so I could well have not seen it
24
until the 24th.
25
Q
You were on vacation on the 24th,
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right?
2
A
That's what the previous e-mail said,
4
Q
Okay. And so --
5
A
So it could have gotten to me on the
3
6
7
8
yes.
24th when I was not at home.
Q
Well, your Declaration that you
provided to the court.
9
A
Right.
10
Q
Which was drafted in the first
11
instance by your counsel says: On March 24, 2009,
12
Fontainebleau revised its Advance Request and
13
supporting documentation.
14
A
Uh-hum.
15
Q
The -- on July 1, 2009, the date that
16
you signed this, the events in March were certainly
17
much fresher in your mind, correct?
18
A
Right.
19
Q
And at that point you had the
20
resources of the counsel that were assisting you in
21
drafting this declaration as well, correct?
22
A
Correct.
23
Q
And you knew that you were submitting
24
25
it under penalty of perjury to a court?
A
Correct.
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Based on all that, do you believe that
Q
2
the date set forth in your declaration of March 24,
3
2009 is correct?
4
A
Based on that I would believe the 24th
5
is correct.
6
Q
The Advance Request -- and let's, to
7
keep things demarcated, I'm going to refer to the
8
March 11 Advance Request and the March 24 Advance
9
Request. Okay?
10
A
Okay.
11
Q
All right. So, the March 24 Advance
12
Request, according to your declaration, projected
13
additional costs associated with Fontainebleau's
14
decision to delay the project scheduled opening date
15
from October 1, 2009 to November 1, 2009, including,
16
one, an $88,854,000 construction cost increase; two,
17
a 21,747,000 debt service increase; and three, a $5
18 ·
million condo selling cost decrease. Do you see
19
that?
20
A
21
Q
22
23
Yes.
Do you know what the decrease for
condo selling costs resulted from?
A
My recollection is that that was
24
because they have given up hope of selling the
25
condos, so any associated costs would be gone.
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Q
And the 88, almost $89 million
2
construction cost increase, do you know what the
3
major components of that were?
4
A
I do not recall.
5
Q
Did it concern you that as of this
6
date, March 24th, 2009, and some approximate two
7
weeks after the submission of the Advance Request,
8
the first Advance Request on March 11, that there
9
were projected to be an increase in construction
1O
costs of an additional 89 million that weren't
11
previously disclosed?
12
A
Yes.
13
Q
Did IVI approve this Advance Request?
14
A
I don't remember when they approved,
15
but at some point before the March funding they did
16
approve.
17
Q
And when you say "approved," did they
18
submit a Construction Consultant Certificate of the
19
sort that we previously looked at where they had
20
indicated material errors for the March 11 request?
21
A
At some point they sent in a
22
certificate that was in conformance of what was
23
required under the documents.
24
25
Q
Which would have been a Construction
Consultant Certificate?
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A
Yes.
2
Q
And they set that..:_ sent something,
3
they sent that certificate in for the March 24th
4
Advance Request?
5
6
7
8
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Go ahead.
A
At some point before funding we
received a compliant certificate from IVI.
Q
You refer in your Declaration to an In
9
Balance Report that was part of the March 24 Advance
10.
Request that showed an in balance of -- excuse me --
11
a positive in balance number of $13,785,000. Let me
12
just put in front of you Exhibit 824 and ask you if
13
this is a copy of that In Balance Report.
14
15
(In Balance Report dated February 28,
2009 marked as Exhibit 824, as of this date.)
16
(Appendix I to Budget/Schedule
17
Amendment marked as Exhibit 825, as of this
18
date.)
19
BY MR. DILLMAN:
20
Q
Is it?
21
A
What was the question?
22
Q
Yes, it was. I said, let me hand you
23
24
25
Exhibit 824 and ask you if that's a copy of that In
· Balance Report?
A
Yes.
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Q
Thanks.
2
A
Starting to fade here.
3
Q
If you need to take a break, let me
4
know. I mean, we can take more frequent breaks if
5
you'd like.
6
A
Keep going.
7
Q
In Paragraph 24 of your Declaration
8
you refer to a second revision to the supporting
9
documentation for its March 2009 Advance Request, do
10
you see that?
11
A
Yes.
12
Q
You indicate that this was submitted
13
on March 25th, 2009. Exhibit 825 is that Appendix 1
14
to Budget and Schedule Amendments set of revised
15
documents, correct?
16
17
A
Yes.
MR. CANTOR: Wait, I'm sorry. Unless
18
I missed something, you're referring to the
19
document that's referred to in Paragraph 34?
20
MR. DILLMAN: Correct.
21
MR. CANTOR: Which, according to the
22
declaration, was annexed as Exhibit 23, and I
23
would only note -- maybe, I could be wrong
24
about the number -- the document itself has a
25
court stamped document on the top of it that
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says Doc 103-24. I don't know -- I don't
2
know if that is a meaningful discrepancy or
3
not, but I just want to --
4
5
MR. DILLMAN: I believe it was loaded
into the system in pieces.
6
MR. CANTOR: Is that right? Okay.
7
MR. DILLMAN: So that was -- that's
8
why there's a page 2 of 18 whereas there was
9
also a page, you know, I think you'll find a
10
page 2 of 18 to his declaration as well.
11
MR. CANTOR: Okay.
12
MR. DILLMAN: One way or the other,
13
and so that we don't have to include the
14
entire forest.
15
MR. CANTOR: No, I didn't -- I just --
16
I don't want him -- I want him to give a more
17
thoughtful answer and not simply assume that,
18
you know, it's correct. I don't think you're
19
trying to mislead him, I'm just saying, you
20
know.
21
THE WITNESS: I think all Kirk said
22
was this was Appendix 1 to the Budget
23
Schedule Amendment, which was just reading
24
off the title, and I said yes.
25
MR. CANTOR: Okay.
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BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
And this was the document that you
3
referred to when you said in your Declaration on
4
March 25th, 2009, Fontainebleau submitted a second
5
revision to the supporting documentation for its
6
March 2009 Advance Request, correct?
7
A
I don't recall.
8
Q
If you look at this document and you
9
go to the in-balance test on the -- one, two,
10
three -- fourth page, you'll see that the in balance
11
positive/negative is 14,084,701?
12
A
Yes.
13
Q
You recall that that was the final
14
in-balance test in March, the final results of the
15
in-balance test in March.
16
17
18
19
A
My recollection was the final number
was around 14 million, yes.
Q
Okay. And that was higher than the
March 24th Advance Request In Balance Report, right?
20
A
Slightly, yes.
21
Q
It went from 13,8 to 14 and change?
22
A
Yes.
23
Q
Do you know why it was higher?
24
A
I do not recall.
25
Q
And looking at that, that in balance
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number, does that cause you now to refresh your .
2
recollection that indeed Exhibit 825 was what you
3
were referring to in Paragraph 34 of your
4
Declaration?
5
6
A
It doesn't, but the easy way is to
look at what Exhibit 23 was and just match them up.
7
Q
8
A
Then it is.
9
Q
But -- okay. But without looking at
10
I think you're looking at it.
that exhibit you can't tell me?
11
A
I cannot recall.
12
Q
And in part -- well, do you recall
13
that there was a different submission after the
14
March 24 Advance Request by Fontainebleau Resorts?
15
In other words, that which is referred to in
16
Paragraph 34 of your Declaration, do you recall
17
that?
18
A
I recall that there were at least one,
19
maybe more, maybe at least two I should say,
20
revisions to the in-balance test during that period
21
of time when IVI was working very intensely with
22
Fontainebleau to make sure the number's correct.
23
Q
And do you recall that the final one
24
in the series didn't have the -- all of the
25
documentation and so on as we see in Exhibit 265
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2
labeled Advance Requests Certificate Date, you know,
· all the formalities of a typical Advance Request?
3
A
I'm sorry, what was the question?
4
Q
Did you recall that the final in the
5
series of submissions by Fontainebleau in March did
6
not have all of the formalities of the prior two,
7
did not have the sort of standard Advance Request
8
formalities that we've seen in the prior ones?
9
A
I thirik it was amending what I
10
previously submitted. So if they did not completely
11
replace all the pages, it was because those pages
12
didn't have changes in it.
13
Q
Did IVI approve the -- well, the
14
submission that you refer to in Paragraph 34 of your
15
Declaration?
16
A
At some point before funding IVI
17
issued a Construction Consultant Certificate that
18
was in compliance with the documents.
19
Q
With respect to -- I think you already
20
told me that IVI did so with respect to the
21
submission referred to in Paragraph 33 of your
22
complaint -- of your Declaration, which we've called
23
the March 24 Advance Request.
24
25
MR. CANTOR: I don't think he said
that.
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A
2
Q
3
Yeah, I don't think I said that.
No. Okay. I'm pretty sure you did
but --
4
MR. CANTOR: I think he actually gave
5
you the same answer he just gave you, you may
6
be assuming what that means.
7
MR. DILLMAN: May very well be.
8.
A
Yes.
9
Q
Okay.
1O
A
What I said was at some point before
11
12
funding IVI issued the certificate.
Q
All right. Whether it was -- whether
13
there was more than one, or not, you believed that
14
IVI provided a Construction Consultant Certificate
15
at some time prior to funding that covered the March
16
24 Advance Request as it might be changed by the
17
submission that you referred to in Paragraph 34 of
18
your Declaration?
19
A
At some point IVI issued a
20
Construction Consultant Certificate that covered the
21
Advance Request for the funding in March.
22
Q
Okay. And just to be clear. The
23
Advance Request for the funding in March was the
24
March 24 certificate as supplemented by the March
25
·25th submission that you refer to in Paragraph 34 of
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your Declaration; is that right?
2
A
I don't know if you are adding to what
3
my recollection is. My recollection is that at some
4
point in March all the conditions. for funding were
5
satisfied, including a Construction Consultant
6
Certificate from IVI.
7
Q
Okay. I got that. My question was a
8
little different, and let me see if I can hone in on
9
that.
10
When you -- when BofA disbursed, it
11
was disbursing pursuant to some request by the
12
borrower, right?
13
A
Right.
14
Q
Now, am I correct that BofA believed
15
that the request it was disbursing for was the March
16
24, 2009 request as it might be supplemented by the
17
March 25th submissions referred to in Paragraph 34
18
of your Declaration?
19
A
As I sit here today, I cannot recall
20
all the documents that was part of the package of
21
required documents and when exactly they came in.
22
So when you label something March 24th or March
23
25th, I cannot answer that because I cannot
24
remember.
25
Q
Okay. Well -,.
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A
And all I'm saying is, my recollection
2
was that at some point before funding I determined
3
that all the conditions required for funding,
4
including the Construction Consultant Certificate,
5
have been delivered.
6
Q
And the In Balance Report that was
7
part of the package that was delivered that you
8
understood to be operative for the disbursement that
9
you authorized was an In Balance Report that showed
10
a positive balance of $14,084,701?
11
A
That's my recollection, approximately
12
$14 million.
13
Q
14
15
It was not an in balance request that
showed a positive balance of 13 million and change?
A
13.8 million is actually fairly close
16
to 14 million, and I said my recollection is that
17
the final IVI number was around $14 million. The
18
final in balance number was around $14 million).
19
Q
20
21
Okay. Thank you.
Do you know when the disbursements
were made?
22
A
In March?
2·3
Q
Yes, sir.
24
A
Of 2009?
25
Q
Yep.
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A
It would be around March 25th, 26th.
2
Q
Do you know when it was?
3
A
Not exactly, I do not recall.
4
Q
The requested advance date was March
5
25th, you realize that, right? If we look at 264,
6
that's --
7
A
265 or 264?
8
Q
264. It's the March 24 Advance
9
Request.
10
THE WITNESS: That's 265.
11
MR. CANTOR: There you go. I don't
12
know where your copy is.
13
14
THE WITNESS: It got to be in here
somewhera.
15
16
17
MR. CANTOR: Don't worry, you can work
of this, that's fine.
BY MR. DILLMAN:
18
Q
So 264.
19
A
The requested advance date is March
20
21
25th.
Q
Do you have any reason to believe that
22
the disbursements were made on some date other than
23
the requested advance date?
24
25
A
On my declaration it said that, on
Paragraphs 34, that on March 25th Fontainebleau
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2
3
4
submitted a revised set of documents.
Q
Right. And we've looked at those, at
least -A
And so we would not have approved the
5
release of funds until we got the final documents.
6
So I don't know operationally, and again, I don't
7
have any specific recollection, so I'm just raising
8
a question. I don't know operationally if -- if we
9
were just getting documents on the 25th whether we
10
also advanced on the 25th. If operationally that
11
was feasible, then I don't have a reason to believe
12
why we would not advance on the 25th.
13
Q
Okay. But weren't at the bank --
14
A
I was --
15
Q
-- on either of those days, were you?
16
A
No.
17
Q
At the -- from where you were offsite,
18
were you involved in the back and forth about
19
disburse or not disburse over the 24th, 25th, 26th .
20
time period if it went that late?
21
A
No, because I would be playing my
22
matches and I would doubt that I would be involved
23
in those conversations.
24
25
Q
Before you left on vacation, you sent
a letter out to the -- to the lenders via
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lntralinks, do you recall that?
2
A
Yes.
3
Q
And that's Exhibit 212; is that right?
4
A
That's right.
5
Q
And on this date you hadn't received
6
yet the March 24 Advance Request and certainly not
7
the March 25th submission; fair statement?
8
A
Fair statement.
9
Q
Did you -- had you at this point
10
received the Construction Consultant Certificate,
11
couldn't have, right?
12
13
A
I have to check the date of that but
unlikely.
14
Q
I'm sorry, were you done?
15
A
I was done.
16
Q
Okay. This letter to the lenders is
17
dated March 23, 2009, like I said, I'd like you to
18
confirm, it did go to lntralinks, yes?
19
A
Yes.
20
Q
And you say in the first paragraph:
21
There are two issues which may impact this
22
calculation. The calculation being the in balance
23
calculation?
24
A
Uh-hum. Yes.
25
Q
You say: There is a divergence of
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opinions as to the reading of 2.1 (c)3 of the Credit
2
Agreement. Let me just ask you: Who was on -- who
3
was on the differing sides of this, of these, of
4
this opinion?
5
A
6
Now Bank of America obviously was on
one side.
7
Q
Yep. Who was on the other side?
8
A
And on -- I do not recall specifically
9
who was on the other side.
10
Q
Was it divergence of opinions within
11
BofA?
12
A
No.
13
Q
Well, you say that BofA's position is
14
that since the borrower has requested all the Delay
15
Draw Term Loans and almost all of the loans are
16
funded whether or not the outstanding 21,666,000 is
17
ultimately received, Section 2.1 (c)3 now permit.s the
18
borrower to request revolving loans which result in
19
the aggregate amount outstanding under the revolving
20
commitment being in excess of $150 million. You
21
say: As a result we would permit the relevant
22
portion of the revolving commitment to be reflected
23
in available funds.
24
A
Yes.
25
Q
So there's a couple of things that
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seem to be going on here.
2
One of which is, if the Delay Draw
3
Term Loans had fully funded then we would include
4
the remaining revolving commitments as part of
5
available funds?
6
A
7
Q
Yes.
If they didn't fund at all, we
8
wouldn't include the revolving commitment in the --
9
to be reflected in available funds?
10
A
If they were requested and not funded,
11
then I believe that would be the case. Because if
12
the borrower had requested the funds -- let me, let
13
me backtrack.
14
What happened was that there was a
15
request for initially the entire amount of the
16
delayed draw, and the available amount under the
17
revolver, we determined that that was not a valid
18
request. Because under the documents the amount of
19
the revolver that col.ild be drawn until the delay
20
draw loans have been fully funded was limited, so
21
they could not have requested the amount they did.
22
Subsequently Fontainebleau requested
23
the full availability under the delay draw of $350
24
million. And the Delay Draw Term Loan lenders
25
funded all of that except for about $20 million, as
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you said, $21 million.
2
At that point in time the question
3
that people had differing opinions on was whether
4
the 350 minus 21 was sufficient to satisfy 2.1 (c)3.
5
Bank of America's position was, yes,
6
that was sufficient to satisfy 2.1 (c)3, but there
7
were other lenders that were of the opinion that
8
because the $21.7 million had not come in, that
9
2.1 (c)3 had not been satisfied.
10
So, for example, if a request comes in
11
in April for a drawing on the revolver exceeding
12
$150 million, that would be an invalid notice of
13
borrowing. Bank of America's position on March 23rd
14
was that we were satisfied that although there was a
15
shortfall of 21. 7 million dollars, we would consider
16
Section 2.1 (c)3 to be satisfied. So that on April
17
1st, if there was a compliant notice of borrowing on
18
the revolver for the full amount of then available,
19
Bank of America would fully fund this portion.
20
That's what the first paragraph says.
21
22
23
Q
Okay. Let me ask you' to clarify a
couple things there.
Because I -- my -- my prior question
24
was: Was it Bank of America's position that -- and
25
I just want to break this into three different
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BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
Did you have any opinion at the time
3
or understanding at the time in March of '09 as to
4
whether or not the failure by term lenders to fund
5
their obligations under the credit facility was a
6
breach of their obligations under the credit
7
facility?
8
9
1O
11
12
A
conclusion as your previous question.
Q
15
My question is your understanding.
You either had one or you didn't?
A
13
14
I think it asks for the same legal
I do not recall.
MR. CANTOR: He already answered that
actually.
BY MR. DILLMAN:
16
Q
You don't recall?
17
A
I do not recall.
18
Q
You say below that -- you say: We
19
request that any lender which does not support these
20
interpretations. Let me just -- when you say "these
21
interpretations," what part of point 2 is an
22
interpretation in your assessment, I mean what are
23
you interpreting there?
24
A
25
Q
As I said in Paragraph 1 -Paragraph 2. I'm sorry, Paragraph 2.
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2
3
4
5
I'm focusing on Paragraph 2.
A
Well, these interpretations refer to
everything above.
Q
Right. I'm not interested in
Paragraph 1, just Paragraph 2.
6
A
Okay.
7
Q
What interpretations are included in
8
Paragraph 2 that you were seeking when you were
9
requesting lenders who did not support them to
10
notify you?
11
A
12
There could be two ways to treat the
$21.?million.
13
Q
Okay.
14
A
One is to include them in available
15
funds, and the second one is to not include them in
16
available funds.
17
Q
And if you included them the -- there
18
would be a positive in balance according to the
19
schedules provided by the borrowers, and if you
20
didn't include them, there would be a negative
21
balance, correct?
22
A
Correct.
23
Q
Okay. And what portion of any
24
agreement were you interpreting in deciding that the
25
better interpretation was to allow these amounts to
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be included as opposed to excluding them?
2
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Foundation.
3
Go ahead.
4
A
The facts were that we fully
5
anticipated that Guggenheim would fund, it was just
6
a matter of mechanics of them getting the funds
7
wired to Bank of America. So if you consider the
8
fact that if Guggenheim funds were coming in, then
9
the in balance would be positive anyway.
10
11
Q
Okay. We'll get there in a minute,
but my question was different.
12
What interpretation are you making in
13
point two, are you -- let me ask you it this way:
14
Is there any interpretation going on? Are you
15
interpreting some provision of an agreement or was
16
this just sort of loose language when you said
17
"anybody who doesn't support these interpretations,
18
please let me know"?
19
A
I don't know what you mean by "loose
20
language."
21
Q
Okay. Interpretation means that
22
you're rendering a decision or an opinion on· a
23
particular text typically. I am interpreting
24
something. Okay? Was there any text that went into
25
your conclusion of how treatment of unfunded delay
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draw commitments should go forward or are you simply
2
saying under these circumstances we've elected to
3
treat them as remaining available funds?
4
A
From a non lawyer point of view, I
5
think your letter categorization would be reasonable
6
way of looking at it from my perspective.
7
Q
All right. I mean, if you -- if there
8
was some provision in the Credit Facility Agreement
9
or the Disbursement Agreement that you said, but I'm
1O
looking at this provision and I'm interpreting it in
11
a manner that said these should be treated as
12
available funds, I'd like to know.
13
14
15
A
I cannot point you to such a paragraph
in the documents.
Q
Okay. Now, you said Guggenheim, you
16
had information that Guggenheim said that it was
17
coming in and there was just some logistics that
18
they were not able to get it to BofA?
19
A
Right.
20
Q
Tell me about that.
21
A
I think at some point you will find in
22
the documents that I actually send Guggenheim an
23
e-mail that says 'Why did some of your funds not
24
wire?" And I believe I had a conversation with
25
Guggenheim, with Guggenheim saying ''Yes, we're
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rounding up all the parties, all our investors, and
2
we intend to send those funds, and as they come in,
3
we have been sending them, that's why you already
4
got some and the rest a.re coming."
5
6
Q
And that was in April that those
communications occurred?
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
7
8
A
No.
9
Q
Or some date after March 25th,
10
11
correct?
A
No, I believe some of that could have
12
been before March 25th, I don't recall specifically
13
when.
14
Q
15
As of March 25th, did you have any
communications with Guggenheim on this topic?
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Asked and
16
17
answered.
18
A
I do not recall the specific dates of
19
the communications. I believe there may be some
20
e-mail, and you can look at when that was dated.
21
But my recollection is that sometime in late March I
22
have - I had those communications with Guggenheim.
23
Q
And the communications related to they
24
were rounding up funds, they hadn't gotten them from
25
all their funds, right?
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A
Right.
2
Q
Right. And any other communications
3
with Guggenheim, other than those as set forth in
4
that e-mail or those series of e-mails, that would
5
lead you to believe on March 25th that the
6
Guggenheim fund -- Guggenheim was going to be paying
7
its commitment?
8
MR. CANTOR: Objection. He didn't
9
testify that his communications with
10
Guggenheim were limited to e-mails.
11
A
They had phone calls I believe.
12
Q
Any other communications other than
13
those surrounding the e-mails that you've testified
14
about?
15
16
17
18
19
20
A
Are you asking me if I ever talked to
Guggenheim about other issues?
Q
No. These issues about whether
they're going to pay.
MR. CANTOR: So he's testified that
there had been phone calls and --
21
MR. DILLMAN: Counsel, counsel.
22
MR. CANTOR: -- e-mails. I mean, do
23
24
25
you mean smoke signals?
MR. DILLMAN: I'd be happy to put you
in that chair if you want to testify.
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MR. CANTOR: Go for it.
A
It's the same answer. I had
3
communications with Guggenheim about the fundings,
4
and those were the communications.
5
Q
Okay. And I'm trying to get now to
6
make sure that we get these sort of cabined, because
7
the communications and e-mail -- the e-mails that
8
you're talking about was after March 25th, 2009.
9
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Misstates the
10
record. Lacks foundation.
11
Q
Correct?
12
A
I don't recall the specific dates.
13
recall having conversations with someone with
14
Guggenheim -- at Guggenheim about when the fund's
15
coming in.
16
Q
17
And this was before you wrote your
March 23, 2009 letter, or after?
18
A
I don't recall.
19
Q
Would it make -- would typically if
20
Guggenheim had said we're paying, wouldn'tthat have
21
been something that you would have wanted to inform
22
the other lenders about that in fact there's not a
23
21.666 million dollar shortfall but rather it's
24
smaller than that because Guggenheim's gonna pay?
25
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
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2
3
A
Are you asking me to speculate whether
I would have done it that way?
Q
Isn't as a representative of BofA who
4
is representing it, who is signing things as
5
disbursement agent and as administrative agent in
6
that time period, placing a letter on lntralinks for
7
all the lenders to see, wouldn't you typically have
8
wanted them
9
apparently a $21 million shortfall, don't worry, the
10
Guggenheim money is coming in, so that's going to be
11
okay?
12
13
14
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
Q
Isn't that something you think they'd
want to know?
15
16
to know that while there's at least
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
I don't know whether they want to know
17
that, but I was not going to put something like that
18
in unless I was sure and I didn't want to speculate.
19
Q
Okay. So you weren't sure as of the
20
writing of this letter whether Guggenheim was paying
21
or not?
22
23
24
25
A
Until the money comes in, you're never
sure.
Q
All right. And it would have been
speculation for you to conclude otherwise, right?
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3
4
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
Q
I just used your words, but you didn't
want to speculate, right?
A
I would not want to add in the forum
5
of lntralinks call out any particular lender and
6
describe conversations that I have had with that
7
lender, I do not think that would be ·appropriate.
8
Q
How about just saying, my information
9
is that the full 21 million is not going to be
10
outstanding, that in fact some portion of it is
11
going to be paid in this amount without naming
12
names?
13
14
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A
Well, if I - if I - if I say the
15
amount, people could tell who that was, so I don't
16
think it was appropriate for me to do it that way.
17
18
Q
And, as you said, you weren't sure
what's coming in, right?
19
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Asked and
20
~mswered.
21
A
Well, again, as I said before, until
22
something happened, there's always a chance that
23
it's not going to happen.
24
25
Q
Did you talk to Guggenheim while you
were playing badminton between the 24th and the
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· Q
That's Exhibit 213. Thafwas an
.
·2
3
.
important letter in the history of the Fontainebleau
Las Vegas project?
4
A
Yes.
5
Q
It ~ertainly got the attention of · ·
6
BofA, didn't it?
7
A
Yes.
8
Q
And it specifically got your
9.
attention?
10
A
Yes.
11
Q
Mr. Freeman says that, on the second
12
page: Please be advised that one or more events,
13
occurrences or circumstances have occu'rred which
14 ·
reasonably could be expected to cause the in-balance
15
test to fail to be satisfied or render the project
· 16
entities incapable of, or prevent the project
17
entities from, A, achieving the opening date on or
18
before the scheduled opening dated; or B, meeting
19
one or more material obligations under the prime
20
construction agreement or the other material
21
contracts as and when required thereunder.
22
· You. had a meeting after this,
23
receiving this letter with the borrower, did you
24
not?
25
A
1. believe we had a meeting with the
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3
4
borrower several days after.
·Q
And when you say "we," who is part of
that meeting; do you know?
A
My recollection was that the members
5
ofthe steering committee was invited and the
6
steering committee was expanded for the purpose of
7
that meeting.
8
Q
When did that meeting occur?
9
A
I believe on April 17th.
1O
Q
Where was the meeting?
11
A
New York.
12
·Q
13
14
Okay. There was a presentation handed
out at the meeting, presentation materials?
A
It was a presentation that started out
1.fr
without handouts, and I requested handouts, and that
16
was complied with.
17
18
19 .
Q
Okay. Before that meeting, the·April
17th meeting arid -- excuse· me, let me start ov~r.
Between April 13 when you received
.20
·Mr. Freeman's letter and April 17 when you had the
21
meeting in New York, are there any other meetings or
22
telephone calls between BofA and Fontainebleau
23
Resorts that you're aware of?
24
25
A · I believe we called and tried to find
out more about this letter.
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.MR. DILLMAN: I don't~- I'll let you
2
reminisce over old times while they're doing.
3
that.
4
5
Thanks.
.BY MR. DILLMAN:
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
A
25
Q
Oo you recall coming away with an
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what did the borrower say that led you
Q
2·
to the conclusion that there. was no way that they
3
could meet their obligations a,s they came due?
A
4
· They stated that they would not make
5.
any payments on the 675.million dollars of second
6
mortgage notes. Those would be totally wiped out.
7
And that they are asking the senior lenders to
8
convert, I believe, approximately 40 percent of the
·9
. senior debt to eqwity, So the fact that' they
1O
declared that they have no way and no intention of
11
ever paying the second mortgage notes by itself,
12
satisfy the condition that they would not be able to
13
meet the -- their debt obligations when they come
14
due.
t5
· Q.
When the -- when was the -- when were
16
the second mortgage notes due, as far as you
17
understood?
18
A
19
Q
20
·1 do not recall.
down?
Not around the corner, right, sometime
21
A
Not around the corner.
22
Q
Okay. Sometime after the opening?
· 23
A
It would be definitely after the
24
25
opening.
Q
Okay. And that was not until -- the
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Did. !VI continue to work with the ..
2
borrower after April 20, 2009 to deterr:nine what the
3
. additional costs were to complete the project?
Yes.
4
A
5
Q
For how long did IVI contiriu~ that?
6.
A
For considerable amount of time.
7 .
Q
Exhibit 828 is
.
8
.
a Project Status Report
by IVI. It's Report No. 23 dated April 23, 2009.
9
Do you know why this report was issued
·1O
after the date that Bof A had terminated its --
11.
strike that -~ the revolving lenders had terminated
.. 12
13
14
15
the· revolving facility?
A . Because certain lenders, including
· Bank of America, continue to explore ways whereby
the projectcould be built and the debt repaid.
· 16
Q · .. You say in your -- in your" Declaration
17
of Paragraph 42 t_hat on April 23, 2009, based upon
18
the new information received from Fontainebleau, IVI
19
issued Project Status Report No. 23. Do you know
20
what new information they received _other tha~ the
21
dra.f~ anticipated cost report that you and I just
22
looked at a. moment ago?
23
A
I don't recall.
24
Q
Oid they receive change orders and so
25
on prior to April 23, 2009?
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I do not recall specifically what they
A
were getting.
3
·Q
Exhibit 298 is entitled Cost to
4
Complete Review by IV! dated May- 15, 2009. · Did Bank
5
_of America request IVI to do this report?
6
A ·Yes.
7
Q
.8
A
9
For what purpose?
As I said, certain lenders, including
Bank of America, continued to explore ways whereby
1O
th~
11
that were outstanding be repaid.
12 ·
project can be complet~d and the senior debt
Okay. Wh_at point in time did BofA
Q
13
conclude that that was not a path that it was
14
prepared to spend any more time going down?
15
16
MR. CANTOR: Objection.
A·
·
I'm sorry, could you repeat the
17
questi_on?
18
Q
19
At point -- is BofA still pursuing
possible efforts. in that regard with the borrower?
20
A
You mean as I sit here today?
· 21
Q
Yes.
22
A
Well, no, because the borrqwer is no
.23
24
25
longer in the picture.
Q
Right. At what point did BofA
determine that it was not going to continue those
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efforts any further?
2
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Go ahead.
3
MR. DILLMAN: Overruled.
4
MR. CANTOR: It wouldn't be the first
5
time you've acted like a judge today.
6
A
I believe Bank of America stopped
7
exploring ways to finish a project and get the
8
senior debt repaid at the mediation, which was some
9
time after the bankruptcy filing I believe.
10
Q
You recommended .in -- before you went
11
on vacation that the project, the Fontainebleau
12
project be downgraded to RR-9, Risk Rating 9, do you
13
recall that?
14
A
Yes.
15
Q
Why?
16
A
The main reason was Fontainebleau is
17
what is called a shared national credit, which means
18
that it is above a certain dollar amount threshold
19
and it involved a certain number or more of
20
regulated banks. So the examiners are coming in in
21
late March and April to look at, among other
22
situations, Fontainebleau, and that prompted us to
23
make sure that the risk rating was correct, and at
24
that time we decided to downgrade it to substandard.
25
Q
What events existed on February 21st,
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2009 that caused you to conclude that it should be
2
downgraded to a Risk Rating 9?
3
A
February 21st?
4
Q
May 21st.
5
A
Oh, May 21st. May 21st?
6
MR. CANTOR: That's not right either.
7
MR. DILLMAN: Did I get like two
8
9
10
months in a row wrong?
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
What caused you to conclude as of
11
March 21st, 2009 that Fontainebleau should be
12
downgraded to a Risk Rating 9?
13
A
By March 21st we have had the meeting
14
in Las Vegas on March 20th when the borrower
15
declined to answer a lot of questions and would not
16
talk about a whole number of things. So to be
17
prudent in this circumstance, and those
18
circumstances, we decided that substandard is more
19
appropriate than a special mention classification.
20
21
22
23
(E-mail Exchange sent 3/21/2009 marked
as Exhibit 829, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
And just so that we -- the record's
24
clear. I'm going to put in front of you 829 which
25
is your e-mail to Mr. Corum and Mr. Brandon Bolio
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indicating that you're projecting a downgrade Risk
2
Rating 9 for the second quarter before you went on
3
vacation the next week, and that's dated March --
4
excuse me -- yeah, March 21st. Do you see that?
5
A
Yes.
6
Q
That is an e-mail that you sent?
7
A
Yes.
8
9
10
11
(E-mail Exchange sent 3/30/2009 marked
as Exhibit 830, as of this date.)
BY MR. DILLMAN:
Q
Exhibit 830 is an e-mail from
12
Mr. Corum. It says, in pertinent part, given
13
funding of DDTL earlier this month -- that's the
14
Delay Draw Term Loan, correct?
15
A
Yes.
16
Q
-- an expected request to draw the
17
full 800 million revolver in early April, which as
18
of this time you fully expected --
19
A
Yes.
20
Q
-- the debtor to do, right, the
21
borrower?
22
A
Yes.
23
Q
This could be a battle for the cash
24
collateral by the banks. And in parentheses, in the
25
event of a default, which is entirely possible, in
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the company. So a battle for the cash collateral by
2
the banks and the company in the event of a default
3
which is entirely possible is sort of a different
4
way of reading that sentence, correct?
5
MR. CANTOR: Objection, but go ahead.
6
A
I'm sorry, what's your question again?
7
Q
No, no, let me strike that.
8
What was the -- was it your assessment
9
at that time that it was entirely possible that
10
there would be an event of default in the near
11
future?
12
A
I think it was certainly possible.
13
Q
How about entirely possible?
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A
Entirely possible is still possible.
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Was it your assessment that there was
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a likelihood of a default with respect to the
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Fontainebleau project as of this date March 30,
18
2009?
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A
I do not recall if I made an
20
assessment that's likely, but we definitely thought
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it was possible.
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Q
And did you understand what Mr. Corum
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meant by "a battle for the cash colla -- for the
24
cash collateral by the banks and the company"?
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A
My understanding of that would mean
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in the in-balance test?
MR. CANTOR: Objection. G~ ahead.
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A
I think you.asked that question
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before, and. ITlY judgment was, until a. lender has
.
.
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officially repudiated his obligation to lend, and
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has told us definitively that it would never honor
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that obligation, they should be included:
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re~ponding
Down below in the e-mail that she's
to or that -- from you that follows below.
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it, in p9int two it says, for Z Capital position,
11
there was. a question at the meeting whether Barclays
12
had stepped into Z Capital's shoes on the Delay Draw
13
Term Loan commitment. Barclays just confirmed to me
14
this morning that they have not. Do you see that?
1'5
A
Yes.
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Q
At this
p~int
in time.when you said
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"stepped into Z Capital's shoes," did you understand
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that Z Capital no longer intended to pay on the
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Delay Draw Term Loan?
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\
.
A
No~
What I was referring to was that
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apparently Barclays had bought into some of the
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Z Capital positions.
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Q
Yes.
24
A
And that all this says was Barclays,
25 .
it was not -- Fontainebleau was not one of the
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I only heard about -MR. CANTOR: Well, respond -- respond
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to his question, don't reveal any
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conversations that you had with Bill or any
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other lawyer.
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THE WITNESS: Right.
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I only heard from Highland and, as I
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said, potentially another term lender. Now, there
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was some questions as to how the April retail
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facility was funded and we continued to pursue the
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company on those issues.
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what knowledge BofA had internally on those issues?
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I don't recall.
MR. DILLMAN: I don't have any further
questions.
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Did you make any efforts to determine
MR. CANTOR: I have a couple quick
ones. Sorry, Henry.
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EXAMINATION BY
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MR. CANTOR:
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Q
Do you recall earlier today you were
22
talking with Mr. Dillman about Guggenheim funding
23
the March 25th Advance Request?
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A
Yes.
25
Q
Okay. And you told Mr. Dillman that
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there were some e-mails and telephone calls, right?
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I believe there was at least one
A
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e-mail and I think there was at least one phone
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call.
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And the e-mail was -- well, withdrawn.
Q
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What do you recall the e-mail to
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consist of?
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I think I was asking Guggenheim why we
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have not gotten wires from some of their funds.
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MR. CANTOR: Stickers, Kirk.
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MR. DILLMAN: Yeah.
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(E-mail sent 3/12/2009 marked as
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14
15
Exhibit 835, as of this date.)
BY MR. CANTOR:
I'm going to show you a document
Q
16
that's been marked as Exhibit 835, and let me ask
17
you: Is that the e-mail to which you were
18
referring?
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This was what I was referring to.
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Q
And the date on this e-mail is what?
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A
March 12th.
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Q
March 12th, and does this refresh your
23
recollection as to when the phone calls between you
24
and representatives of Guggenheim occurred?
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A
It would be around that time.
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Q
Okay.
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MR. CANTOR: I have nothing further.
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MR. DILLMAN: Well, let me hand you
4
5
Exhibit 491.
FURTHER EXAMINATION BY
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MR. DILLMAN:
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Q
Exhibit 491 is an e-mail from
8
Mr. Bolio that attaches a letter dated March 12th,
9
2009 to Miss Trinh, T-r-i-n-h, at Guggenheim. The
10
letter is from Mr. Naval and it itemizes, I'm
11
guessing, $10 million of commitments for the Delay
12
Draw Term Loan, and it says: Please confirm our
13
understanding that the foregoing lenders do not
14
intend to fund in response to the company's request.
15
Do you see that?
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A
Yes.
17
Q
As of March 12th, 2009, did you
18
understand that Guggenheim had informed BofA that it
19
did not intend to fund on behalf of these particular
20
parties?
21
MR. CANTOR: Objection. Assumes facts
22
not in evidence. Go ahead, you can answer.
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A
My recollection was that Guggenheim
24
was chasing after its investors to get the money in,
25
but that they were not funding on behalf of the
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investors.
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Q
And that as of March 24 there had been
3
no commitment by Guggenheim or the investors to
4
fund; isn't that correct?
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A
Could you repeat the question?
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Q
As of March 24, 2009, there had been
7
no commitment by Guggenheim or the investors listed
8
on the letter from Mr. Naval to fund their Delay
9
Draw Term Loan commitment; isn't that correct?
10
A
My recollection is that around that
11
time Guggenheim was still chasing after its
12
investors.
13
Q
And, in fact, as reflected by
14
Mr. Bolio in his e-mail, BofA did not know what the
15
funding status and intention of the lenders
16
described in Mr. Naval's letter were; isn't that
17
right?
18
A
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20
21
As I said, as of March 24th Guggenheim
was still requesting funds from their investors.
Q
And as of that date still had not
received them?
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A
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them.
24
Q
25
And as of that date have not received
And does this help you refresh your
recollection, Exhibit 491, that while you were at
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